On Jul 17, 2011, at 9:30 PM, athos bacchiocchi wrote:
2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
I recently did a push to fix key bugs to get the Pd-extended 0.43
nightly builds in a useable state.
I tried to install it in ubuntu
On Jul 17, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Try getting a patch into the Linux kernel,
that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)
Yes, I would hope that making changes to the core
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Try getting a patch into the Linux kernel,
that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)
Yes, I would hope that making changes to the core of the largest free
software project in the history of
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
All you add on the pd side is a sys_gui call to create the binding, then
handle everything else on the tcl side. Does that make sense?
It's one easy way of doing it. You could also define a proc so that the
contents of the sys_gui call is as short
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
3. Tell the value last put in an inlet, if it's
currently stored (and
if the concept makes sense for
that particular inlet).
If this is desired, then it's probably better to do
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I read a white paper on total development cost of a linux distro and
just remembered linux. I think the distro in the paper was Fedora 9,
which was estimated to be almost an order of magnitude more expensive
than the Linux kernel.
That estimation
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca, pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Date
2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
http://autobuild.puredata.**info/auto-build/latest/http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
I recently did a push to fix key bugs to get the Pd-extended 0.43 nightly
builds in a useable state.
I tried to install it in ubuntu 10.10
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I'm not doing it that way. I'm looking up the xlet info in the help
patch in [pd META] when the xlet is created, then putting the relevant
text as an argument to the command that gets binded to the xlet tag's
Enter and Leave events.
Better to just
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I don't get the idea of having a new method that's supposed to be hidden
from the user (but really isn't) for every object that wants tooltips;
Forget about how MAX does it and how bad that might be : just define an
assistfn field in t_class and
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
OK, but the object is responsible for knowing where it is, not Pd. If
the string is generated on-the-fly or stored elsewhere the object will
have allocated the memory for it.
Well, if pd has a default assist-method, externals might need a way to
give
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
This brings up an issue I've been wondering about since learning a
little more about the canvas editor: why does the pd gui send 'motion'
messages to pd? Why not, for example, just have a tag for an inlet
rectangle and bind Enter and Leave to it?
--- On Sat, 7/16/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca, pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Date
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Well in that case, I don't see any need whatsoever for an assist
method. Just have pd lookup the methods and display them. If one needs
more information than that, the help patch is just two clicks away.
That'll be great for learning GridFlow, as
--- On Thu, 7/14/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca, pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Date
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On page 32 of this document:
http://peabody.sapp.org/class/dmp2/read/WritingMax_MSPExternals.pdf
You can see the 'assist' message. The Max GUI sends the 'assist' message to
an objectclass when you hover above an inlet or outlet,
It's sent
The 10.4 build should work on 10.5 and 10.6. The 10.6 build is 64-
bit, so its different. As for the objects not loading, try removing
your preferences so that it loads its default preferences.
.hc
On Jul 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Mike Moser-Booth wrote:
I just tried it on 10.5 (there
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday
On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
But I'm not sure where to store the tooltip string...
Not sure if that's what you mean, but in max the assist method receives
a number corresponding to the inlet or outlet and returns a pointer to
the appropriate string, so the string is
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
But I'm not sure where to store the tooltip string...
Not sure if that's what you mean, but in max the assist method receives a
number corresponding to the inlet or outlet and returns a pointer to the
(Sorry for the do-over, Hans. I just realized I didn't copy this to the
list.)
I just tried it on 10.5 (there doesn't seem to be a 10.5 specific build, so
I tried the 10.4 build; is that expected to work?). I tried loading a few
patches/abstractions of mine to see what would happen. There seems
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
From: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 6:42 PM
On 2011-07-11 13:45, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
But I'm not sure where to store the tooltip string...
Not sure if that's what you mean, but in max the assist method
receives a number corresponding to the inlet
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca
Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 7:45 PM
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
From: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:15 PM
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Does A_CANT actually work?
Well, maybe it doesn't... ;)
Also, what if someone is parsing arbitrary sequences of anythings-- say,
with [route] or any number of other objects that have an anything
method? Now those objectclasses have to choose
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Ignacio Aguirre wrote:
wow, sad to read no 64-bit builds of gem on os x yet... think i will
still use 0.42.5 with no problems for me :)
Can the 32-bit QuickTime API work at all in 64-bit mode ? It could explain
some things... I remember that Apple designed some things as
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
I've just installed and tried to run pd-extended 0.43.1 on my mac and i've the
following message:
You replied in private.
Also I'm not usually the best person to answer questions about Gem. You
should definitely keep that question on
On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico
On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Ignacio Aguirre wrote:
wow, sad to read no 64-bit builds of gem on os x yet... think i will
still use 0.42.5 with no problems for me :)
Can the 32-bit QuickTime API work at all in 64-bit mode ? It could
explain
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Sunday, July 10
Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i
On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, July 11
On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico
On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, Hans-Christoph
Steiner h
I just tried today's Pd-extended 0.43.1 on chaos.medien.uni-weimar.de
and it worked fine for me. Are others not able to get it to work on
10.6?
.hc
On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Max wrote:
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todays 0.43 os x didn't even launch for me.
Am
On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
[...]
The problem with forks is if improvements don't migrate
upstream.
I think it's both a problem-with and a cause-of.
Yup, that makes sense.
Then we don't benefit
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Saturday, July 9
On Jul 7, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing
features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, Ivica Ico Bukvic i
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
[...]
The problem with forks is if improvements don't migrate
upstream.
I think it's both a problem-with and a cause-of.
Then we don't benefit from sharing the
fixes. Making things migrate upstream takes time in
itself.
I ended up refactoring the magic glass and highlighting code quite a
bit, I think there might be something worth checking out. As for
other bug fixes, it would be great to have them in the patch tracker
so we can sort them out. It would take me a massive amount of time to
figure out what
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:39 +0200, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
I ended up refactoring the magic glass and highlighting code quite a
bit, I think there might be something worth checking out. As for
other bug fixes, it would be great to have them in the patch tracker
so we can sort
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 5:33 PM
On Thu, 07 Jul
While this may be so for a number of patches, my personal experience has been
somewhat different with responses most of the time having nothing to do with
the patch at hand (if I got any in the first place). I imagine if a patch is
declined one would expect it being reported as such with an
Now that's you have your own fork going, I think the whole process
should be a lot easier. Running Pd-extended made the patch process much
easier for me. Having an active fork means that you can develop new
fixes and features, then test and use them, and go back and fix them.
Then once a bug
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:06 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
wrote:
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i
--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, July 7
I tried today 0.43, and it didn't work properly. the audio was just noisy,
and probably out of rate, as changing the value of the intensity in the
test patch made a ramp of a few seconds, instead of ~50ms. And, when the
ramp was up, instead of a sinus tone only noise came out. As I was
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todays 0.43 os x didn't even launch for me.
Am 08.07.2011 um 00:07 schrieb João Pais:
I tried today 0.43, and it didn't work properly. the audio was just noisy,
and probably out of rate, as changing the value of the intensity in the test
patch
commented: Looks worth including, but with GOP bugs, I'm currently
waiting to see what Miller is going to do with GOP restructuring before
tackling this stuff. I still don't really have a grasp of the GOP code,
so I don't know what the repercussions of GOP-related patches are. From
my
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
I recently did a push to fix key bugs to get the Pd-extended 0.43
nightly builds in a useable state. Also, there is a new .zip download
for Windows, so it should be really easy to try nightly builds on
Windows. Just download the .zip,
Nice to hear about some progress in these important areas. BTW, did
you merge vanilla MagicGlass and nlet highlighting or the one from the
pd-l2ork? I ask this because vanilla implementations of both of those
have a number of issues, including unnecessary cpu overhead and
potential
Yes, magic glass and nlet highlighting came from l2ork, plus a 64-bit
patch from Albert Gräf:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478072aid=3312794group_id=55736
.hc
On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:26 PM, i...@vt.edu wrote:
Nice to hear about some progress in these important areas. BTW,
Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Yes, magic glass and nlet highlighting came from l2ork, plus a 64-bit
patch from Albert Gräf:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478072aid=3312794group_id=55736
.hc
Cool! You may want to check out the test of the l2ork c code as it
Today I downloaded the version
Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg and installed it on OSX 10.6.8
I got a couple of errors, i write to the list to see if is mine or
software problems ...
- At pd opening, the pd main window doesnt appears, I have to make
cmd + r to view it.
- gem is
On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Yes, magic glass and nlet highlighting came from l2ork, plus a 64-bit
patch from Albert Gräf:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478072aid=3312794group_id=55736
.hc
Cool! You
On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Ignacio Aguirre wrote:
Today I downloaded the version
Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg and installed it on OSX 10.6.8
I got a couple of errors, i write to the list to see if is mine or
software problems ...
- At pd opening, the pd main window doesnt
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