Re: [PD] NetPd status

2012-03-14 Thread Quim Llimona
Great! I'll try it out, and if you want I can help with abstractions (I already have som GUI stuff done with raw OSC) and so. We need, on the network side, mostly message passing between clients and server (we usually have a local server, that outputs all the audio), chat and some kind of

Re: [PD] NetPd status

2012-03-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 10:59 +0100, Quim Llimona wrote: Great! I'll try it out, and if you want I can help with abstractions (I already have som GUI stuff done with raw OSC) and so. We need, on the network side, mostly message passing between clients and server (we usually have a local

[PD] NetPd status

2012-03-13 Thread Quim Llimona
Hi all, The Barcelona Laptop Orchestra has been working with some network abstractions built specifically per piece (chats, OSC sync and so). I was thinking on making a whole, reusable framework, but then I read about the NetPd system... I'd like to develop stuff from it (some GUI abstractions,

Re: [PD] NetPd status

2012-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Quim On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 12:27 +0100, Quim Llimona wrote: Hi all, The Barcelona Laptop Orchestra has been working with some network abstractions built specifically per piece (chats, OSC sync and so). I was thinking on making a whole, reusable framework, but then I read about the NetPd

Re: [PD] netpd-now

2011-01-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:40 +0100, Max wrote: log in! Sorry, that was too late (or too early) for me. Did anyone join you? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] netpd-now

2011-01-15 Thread Max
Am 15.01.2011 um 09:43 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:40 +0100, Max wrote: log in! Sorry, that was too late (or too early) for me. Did anyone join you? hi roman, well we were 3 people in the same room, i thought maybe someone will join us remotely. it was fun anyways. is

[PD] netpd-now

2011-01-14 Thread Max
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Re: [PD] netpd

2008-09-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 21:56 -0500, Josh Lawrence wrote: Hello list, I just recently discovered netpd, which is frigging AWESOME for those of us newbies that can't program PD very well just yet. However, I have a problem - when I open up _chat.pd, it's looking for people on my own LAN. Can

[PD] netpd

2008-09-12 Thread Josh Lawrence
Hello list, I just recently discovered netpd, which is frigging AWESOME for those of us newbies that can't program PD very well just yet. However, I have a problem - when I open up _chat.pd, it's looking for people on my own LAN. Can I jam with folks across the internet? Is there a main server

Re: [PD] netpd

2008-09-12 Thread Max
Am 12.09.2008 um 15:26 schrieb Josh Lawrence: Hello list, wellcome josh. I just recently discovered netpd, which is frigging AWESOME for those of us newbies that can't program PD very well just yet. However, I have a problem - when I open up _chat.pd, it's looking for people on roman or

[PD] netpd

2008-09-11 Thread Josh Lawrence
Hello list, I just recently discovered netpd, which is frigging AWESOME for those of us newbies that can't program PD very well just yet. However, I have a problem - when I open up _chat.pd, it's looking for people on my own LAN. Can I jam with folks across the internet? Is there a main server

Re: [PD] netpd server crashes

2008-09-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi john sorry for late reply (i currently only have internet sporadically) i tried to make a netpd-server based on [tcpserver] from mrpeach instead of [netserver] from maxlib. it wasn't that straightforward as i thought in the beginning, because i had to use another library pdstring from moocow

Re: [PD] netpd server crashes

2008-08-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 07:13 -0500, John Harrison wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i would be interested to know, what conditions are needed to crash pd/server-patch on your box. does it behave the same? it appears to behave the same i.e. crashes about the same amount of time and I don't

Re: [PD] netpd server crashes

2008-08-12 Thread John Harrison
Roman Haefeli wrote: i would be interested to know, what conditions are needed to crash pd/server-patch on your box. does it behave the same? it appears to behave the same i.e. crashes about the same amount of time and I don't detect a consistent pattern to the crashes. I saw the same

[PD] netpd server crashes

2008-08-08 Thread John Harrison
My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have been playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only one caveat, which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty easily at that. I've seen the netpd.org server crash a bunch of times now. I downloaded and installed the

Re: [PD] netpd server crashes

2008-08-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 08:25 -0500, John Harrison wrote: My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have been playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only one caveat, which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty easily at that. I've seen the netpd.org server

Re: [PD] netpd server crashes

2008-08-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 8, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 08:25 -0500, John Harrison wrote: My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have been playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only one caveat, which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty

Re: [PD] netpd server crashes

2008-08-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:49 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Sounds like you guys should try Martin Peach's [tcpserver]. yeah, that is actually the plan on the mid-term/long run. since basically only [netserver] and [netclient] are really needed from maxlib, i would like to switch to

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-06-01 Thread Luke Iannini
Yo, I can confirm it with a day-or-two-old Pd-Extended autobuild. I did some playing with this, and if you cut and paste the [pd 1-subsub] object it will start receiving messages like normal. So, it seems that dynamically created subpatches don't get a receiver... A possible workaround for this

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-06-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, I think I might have broken the subpatch receive symbols a couple of days ago, which might be the cause of this. I just fixed my mistake, so tomorrow, they should work again. .hc On Jun 1, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo, I can confirm it with a day-or-two-old Pd-Extended

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-06-01 Thread Max Neupert
BAD BOY! but thanks for fixing it. Am 2008-06-01 um 19:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Hmm, I think I might have broken the subpatch receive symbols a couple of days ago, which might be the cause of this. I just fixed my mistake, so tomorrow, they should work again. .hc On Jun 1, 2008,

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-31 Thread Enrique Erne
i can open netpd, log in, chat... but as soon as i open creator i get error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object and a empty windows pops up: pd cr.singletons (no dash) netloading a netpd patch doens't work now i got it to. just tried it with: Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080531-macosx105-i386 it

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-30 Thread Max Neupert
Am 2008-05-29 um 23:54 schrieb Roman Haefeli: just a little remark (you might know it already): [declare -*path] works locally in the sense, that pathes are added only for the patch, that holds the [declare]. for testing the netpd stuff, it really only works, if you try it within the

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-30 Thread Max Neupert
problem with ~ and a new one with matrix (only working as iemmatrix/matrix). now i tried pd-netpd-osx.tar.gz from http://netpd.org/download and it worked surprisingly well. ~, matrix, t3_del all creates fine.. i suggest to try this one too. hi eni, the exact version i have here is 0.40.3-extended

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:27 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd. then when i click on creator additionally a

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread Enrique Erne
as iemmatrix/matrix). now i tried pd-netpd-osx.tar.gz from http://netpd.org/download and it worked surprisingly well. ~, matrix, t3_del all creates fine.. i suggest to try this one too. cheers eni ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account

[PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread Max Neupert
servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd. then when i click on creator additionally a blank patch pops up called pd cr.singletons the console

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 20:42 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: Am 2008-05-29 um 19:54 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:27 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread Max Neupert
Am 2008-05-29 um 19:54 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:27 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd.

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread mark edward grimm
Hi Max, Coincidently i tried this last night (or night before) and got the exact same error - pd cr.singletons. Actually i think there was a hyphen in the error so it was pd-cr.singletons The error occurred using the latest autobuild 2008-05-28 for mac intel. I then got an older build i was

Re: [PD] netpd broken?

2008-05-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 23:14 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: ok here my findings: after another [declare -path /Users/max/Desktop/netpd/includes] i could not make an object like [netpd-f] strange thing is: that even after adding the path to the paths- preferences of pd, then restarting pd

[PD] music made with pd (netpd)

2008-03-25 Thread star morin
after sitting in on a session last week, i decided to try and learn netpd. it's pretty great i have to say. here's my first test track with it. looking forward to net time! http://ia341035.us.archive.org/2/items/Dim-sumNetpdTest_905/dim_sum-small.ogg -- Mechanize something idiosyncratic.

Re: [PD] music made with pd (netpd)

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Farnell
Very nice electronica, lots of interesting sounds well blended. Watch your levels, (or ease off the maximiser/compressor).. it's way redlined in places :) thanks for sharing! Andy On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:00:26 -0700 star morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after sitting in on a session last week,

Re: [PD] netpd on pd-extended

2008-01-16 Thread Enrique Erne
Max Neupert wrote: it would be nice to have netpd (_chat.pd) starting from the pd- extended menue! but i guess there are some security issues. m. hi max accessing netpd's _chat.pd through the menu would be a nice feature. i don't know if a connected [netclient] is already a security

Re: [PD] netpd on pd-extended

2008-01-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
yo hi i try to explain how i see things, comments are still welcome, of course. i am busy with my diploma project these days, so i might not be accurate in every detail and i probably won't find time to work on netpd for the next few months. i don't think that netpd should be delivered with

Re: [PD] netpd on pd-extended

2008-01-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, I agree in that I don't think netpd should be included in Pd- extended. It's an application in its own right, so it makes sense to keep it separate. What would make sense is to make libraries out of netpd functionality and include that in Pd-extended. For example, it would be

[PD] netpd on pd-extended

2008-01-15 Thread Enrique Erne
hi list i'm testing netpd on pd-0.40.3-extended-20080114.app on ppc osx 10.4.11, although some synths are missing an object i think it's quite usable atm. the first problem i ran into was touch ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist emptied the plist but didn't remove it. so it didn't load

Re: [PD] netpd on pd-extended

2008-01-15 Thread Steffen Juul
On 15/01/2008, at 17.13, Enrique Erne wrote: the first problem i ran into was touch ~/Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist emptied the plist but didn't remove it. so it didn't load zexy and maxlib, which is necessary for netpd to start and load the _chat.pd. removing the

Re: [PD] netpd on pd-extended

2008-01-15 Thread Max Neupert
it would be nice to have netpd (_chat.pd) starting from the pd- extended menue! but i guess there are some security issues. m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
On 6/18/07, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luckily just yesterday, i had a (very simple) idea, for which i waited for years: instead of opening the netpd-patches with the (for me) inconvenient 'open'-message, i want to load them as abstractions. this has the BIG advantage, that i can

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
. and if your pd crashes then, it doesn't harm the session at all. you can just restart pd/netpd and join the session, without the others noticing that you crashed. So now, with this new idea, you would be able to close these windows in the normal way without it affecting netpd sessions. yeah

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 14, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:46 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would very nice if it was just plug and play. It would not be that hard to do it. I think you could spend a day on it and have it working smoothly. It would be very

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 19:05 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jun 14, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:46 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would very nice if it was just plug and play. It would not be that hard to do it. I think you could

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-15 Thread Enrique Erne
On Jun 14, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Patco wrote: does getdir work without [import]? Why wouldn't it work without [import]? I've got it working so fine without the help of any ohter stuff than vanilla. Pk ah i am not sure about pd-extended's flatspace. when to use [ggee/getdir], [import ggee],

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-15 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! ah i am not sure about pd-extended's flatspace. when to use [ggee/getdir], [import ggee], -lib ggee, or just [getdir] If getdir is in ggee, then you can use [ggee/getdir] or [import ggee] and [getdir] or -lib ggee and [getdir] LG Georg ___

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-15 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 11:17:57AM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: the question is: how should they be included? should they be included as they are now, with the gui and their dependency on the netpd-framework? or would it make more sense to strip everything off to get a working subset of

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: One thing that would be cool for us to come up with is some way to abstract the core, and gui of abstractions separately in such a way that they could be used in multiple different state saving/communication paradigms. For

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-15 Thread Patco
Hello, Frank Barknecht a écrit : All that would be necessary are a clean and documented interfaces for the DSP abstractions. Yes exactly. Things like state saving, GUIs or network control then could easily be built as wrapper abstractions. It might be necessary to have a bridge

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 16:07 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: You can submit edited patches to the bug tracker on the sourceforge page [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070 direct link]. I am now wondering something: why haven't these awesomely functional netpd object been

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Roman! i'd rather do not include the abstractions/patches myself and i'd rather do not make the decision on how they should be included. but i'd be willing to deliver stripped off abstractions with helpfiles from my own netpd-patches, so someone else could could include/organize them in

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended) (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 11:26 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote: Many patches won't work out of the box almost always because it will miss an external, or an abstraction, here we come again on the fact that the patches misses some comments, defining a way to specify the externals a certain

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 08:57 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Yes, what I am talking about is not to add 'netpd the whole application' to Pd-extended, but merely the modules, which are functional and quite useful on their own. yeah, that is what i think as well. These seem to be the best

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 09:11 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: On that tip, I'm curious if there is a tarball of all the current netpd instrument/effects/utility abstractions, of will I have to go to each description page on the netpd site? yes, i think so (unfortunately). it would be surely very

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread moritz
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 09:11 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: On that tip, I'm curious if there is a tarball of all the current netpd instrument/effects/utility abstractions, of will I have to go to each description page on the netpd site? yes, i think so (unfortunately). it

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 16:48 +0200, patrice colet wrote: No, I seriously think that if I miss an abstraction, there is something wrong with the documentation, or comments, and I am not talking about net-pd. I'd rather rebuild my own set of abstractions than looking for the missing patch if I

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 11:45 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote: However, this machinery is ideal for implementing a preset system for the instruments, so that could be very nice. there has been a state saving system for a long time and on it a preset administrator (which i just fixed yesterday)

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 00:40 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Rather than reinvent the wheel, why not take the fruits of the netpd community and make them accessible to users who might just want a wikkid bassline or GOP mixer abstraction? yeah, absolutely. as often, it is a question of someone

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:17 +0200, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! maybe some chosen patches could be converted to work standalone, but it would be lots of work ... and introduce new bugs. some systems like the fx-library system for the mixer were specially developed that different users

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:42 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: netpd has been changing a lot over the last years, and things that change a lot don't work well in Pd-extended. You get version troubles, etc. maybe i am blind to see the obvious solution, but the main problem i see in

Re: [PD] {netpd}U{Pd-extended}

2007-06-14 Thread Patco
Enrique Erne a écrit : yep there was a working patch with qlist. http://www.netpd.org/NetpdPlayer hmm good! but be aware it records whole patches and abstractions as well. maybe it could [route #N #X] before recording to get rid of the pd-files. the difficult part would be to build a

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
than difficulty of installing netpd. newbies often just download pd-netpd for win or osx and that works just out of the box. It would very nice if it was just plug and play. It would not be that hard to do it. I think you could spend a day on it and have it working smoothly. It would

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:46 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Alex Quessy and I tried to run the latest version on netpd working for a network jam last Sunday, we both failed. He got further than me, he got some sounds out, but neither got it all working. Both of us know quite a

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 11:21 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think it should not be too hard to make netpd double-clickable with no extra setup at all (setting .pdrc, etc.) without embedding it into it's own Pd install. but this works smoothly and i think it is the only option, so

Re: [PD] {netpd}U{Pd-extended}

2007-06-14 Thread hard off
They also cooked me dinner. the netpd guys are way up there with the best people i have ever met on the internet. i bet the girls all love them too. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
The helpfile aspect would be very much appreciated! I think that modular is better so that people can reuse netpd elements in their own patches. Of course, being able to use the sequencers and mixer + fx would be the primary Reason (forgive the semi-pun) for newbies to adopt the objects. ~Kyle

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 21:46 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would very nice if it was just plug and play. It would not be that hard to do it. I think you could spend a day on it and have it working smoothly. It would be very worthwhile, but I think you have already spent far

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Good idea. There could be a script called by cron to automatically tarball this dir every week. ~Kyle On 6/14/07, moritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 09:11 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: On that tip, I'm curious if there is a tarball of all the current

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Great! This seems easy enough. I think that this is the simplest solution for now anyway. Eventually being able to separately use modules and even create alternate GUIs for them would be nice too. Of course, I think that the GUIs in netpd are one of the most attractive aspects for new users (and

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-14 Thread Patco
Hello Eni, Enrique Erne a écrit : does getdir work without [import]? regards eni Why wouldn't it work without [import]? I've got it working so fine without the help of any ohter stuff than vanilla. Pk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended)

2007-06-14 Thread Patco
Roman Haefeli a écrit : the aim of netpd is to provide a framework, in which selfwritten code can be used. i think this selfwritten code should stay in the authority of the author and not be moved to some 'superior' authority. something that we all want, are patches, that just work and are

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended)

2007-06-14 Thread Patco
Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 16:48 +0200, patrice colet wrote: what do you mean with original abstractions ? Let's say: an abstraction that isn't into the pd documentation are you still talking about netpd? roman Well I have to review one more time

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-13 Thread Enrique Erne
i'm glad you like it. was it hard to install? if i'd maintain it into cvs first thing i would do is add plain/basic netpd. then i would add some patches to the 2 directories netpd/patches and netpd/abs. btw. if you disconnect the chat from the netpd server everything works locally. it opens a

Re: [PD] {netpd}U{Pd-extended}

2007-06-13 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hi Eni~ I also am curious about Roman's opinion, but I'm glad that you're on board! Installation was surprisingly simple. I just copied the netpd directory to my normal ~/Pd dir, and edited my .pdrc file for -path and -helppath stuff. After that, it was a snap to grap the stuff from you (luckily

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-13 Thread Enrique Erne
hello hans On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: on one hand i would like to see netpd included in pd-extended, but not on cost of the current package. it is important that netpd and all patches work on linux, osx and windows. if people start to write netpd patches with

Re: [PD] {netpd}U{Pd-extended}

2007-06-13 Thread Enrique Erne
hi Kyle On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: anarchic democracy that exists in the netpd performance world. hehe, nice expression. As a side question, has anyone ever tried to write all the netpd events to a [textfile]-based sequencer so that they can easily record and

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 13, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: hello hans On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: on one hand i would like to see netpd included in pd-extended, but not on cost of the current package. it is important that netpd and all patches work on linux, osx

Re: [PD] {netpd}U{Pd-extended}

2007-06-13 Thread Greg Pond
Kyle, I agree with your impression of this anarchic democracy. These guys were generous enough to let me sit in with them when I was in in Zurich and I was really impressed. They also cooked me dinner. As a relative beginner I had Netpd up and running easily. cheers to Enrique, Moritz, and

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-12 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! maybe some chosen patches could be converted to work standalone, but it would be lots of work ... and introduce new bugs. some systems like the fx-library system for the mixer were specially developed that different users can develop effects without touching the mixer itself. somehow

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-12 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
After playing around a little bit with netpd over the past few days, I think that it would be possible to write a dummy _controller.pd that would allow a user to have the netpd experience without an internet connection. Maybe this could be included with a pd-extended netpd library (as well as the

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 9, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: I am now wondering something: why haven't these awesomely functional netpd object been included as abstractions within Pd-extended?!?! on one hand i would like to see netpd included in pd-extended, but not on cost of the current package. it is

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-11 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I am not meaning that people will add to netpd from Pd-extended. Rather, it would be neat to 'steal' the great functional modules that are in netpd and use them as standalone modules for rapid building of non-netpd patches. Say, if a person has been using Reason for a few years, but

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended)

2007-06-11 Thread Enrique Erne
grüezi patrice On Jun 10, 2007, at 5:41 PM, patrice colet wrote: Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 à 12:24 +0200, Enrique Erne a écrit : please tell me which patch is missing an abstraction and where you got it from, sp i can fix it. at least it should be mentioned in the wiki. Concerning net-pd,

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-11 Thread Enrique Erne
hi Georg On Jun 11, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote: I am not meaning that people will add to netpd from Pd-extended. Rather, it would be neat to 'steal' the great functional modules that are in netpd and use them as standalone modules for rapid building of non-netpd patches. Say, if

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-10 Thread Enrique Erne
good morning Kyle i would only add the basic netpd to Pd-extended without any instrument, so that any user can get the newest version of the instruments through creator without maintaining all the instruments in cvs. the netpd-instruments are using some basic netpd-abstractions for broadcasting,

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Enrique Erne hat gesagt: // Enrique Erne wrote: i'm pretty green about cvs. over the pasat 3 years there have been at least 10 different people writing instruments for netpd. how is this done in other projects... like pixeltango or rradical are they maintained in cvs by one person or

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-10 Thread Enrique Erne
On Jun 9, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: On that tip, I'm curious if there is a tarball of all the current netpd instrument/effects/utility abstractions, there is no tarball. and if there would be it would be not up to date within short time. of will I have to go to each

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended)

2007-06-10 Thread patrice colet
Good afternoon, Eni, :) Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 à 12:24 +0200, Enrique Erne a écrit : good morning patrice i thought you got the patch through netpd's creator. I'm sorry, I've mixed two different discussions, this part wasn't net-pd related. please tell me which patch is missing an

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended) (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-09 Thread Enrique Erne
: cr.filecheck abs/jamx.pd a 0.1.26 4 print: cr.filecheck abs/pad.pd a 0.2.12 4 print: cr.filecheck abs/i2mx~.pd a 0.6.28 4 print: cr.filecheck abs/mx_manager.pd a 0.6.16 4 print: cr.filecheck abs/if4.pd a 0.0.0 4 print: cr.filecheck abs/mx_manager.pd a 0.6.16 4 print: cr.filecheck /Users/pd/netpd/patches

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-09 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Yes, would be nice - someone would have to integrate them to pd-extended (using [import] and etc.) ... Everyone could integreate them to her/his own pd-extended using a simple -path flatspace, as AFAIK everything netpd uses is already there and people not using pd-extended wouldn't

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes, what I am talking about is not to add 'netpd the whole application' to Pd-extended, but merely the modules, which are functional and quite useful on their own. These seem to be the best developed set of GOP objects that would be immediately understandable to those coming from the

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
On that tip, I'm curious if there is a tarball of all the current netpd instrument/effects/utility abstractions, of will I have to go to each description page on the netpd site? The largest challenge with this idea is the extra machinery for synchronization between netpd elements. However, this

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended)

2007-06-09 Thread patrice colet
(assuming that this message didn't arrive to the list, sorry if you've received this mail twice, I've also corrected the end of the message) Hi eni, Le samedi 09 juin 2007 à 11:26 +0200, Enrique Erne a écrit : hi patko if you miss an abstraction there is something wrong with your setup. No,

[PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-08 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
You can submit edited patches to the bug tracker on the sourceforge page [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070 direct link]. I am now wondering something: why haven't these awesomely functional netpd object been included as abstractions within Pd-extended?!?! Seriously, they

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-08 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! You can submit edited patches to the bug tracker on the sourceforge page [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070 direct link]. Yes, or if you have a useful bundle of patches that work out of the box with pd extended just send them to me or to the list and I will add

[PD] netPD gig anyone? In Oz/Asia/USA Timezone?

2007-05-04 Thread J0sipZlatko5tojsic
Anyone in my timezone (Australia) up for a netPD jam? *May* have a net connection at a demo i am giving for a couple of afternoons. This comming weekend in fact. Saturday Sunday. Would be nice if there were others online at the time (noon onwards Sydney time, 3am onwards GMT).

Re: [PD] netpd download all patch

2006-11-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
(the attached patch works only with netpd) Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:07:54 + Von: padawan12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch Yeah, I've been looking at it a lot recently. Even if your

Re: [PD] netpd download all patch

2006-11-13 Thread Enrique Erne
Is there a net-pd howto or something? yes, there is a very cheap little tutorial in netpd (netpd/tut) some useful links here: http://www.netpd.org/Devel ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] netpd download all patch

2006-11-11 Thread moritz w.
hm, attached package should have (i hope) all abstractions for playstation.pd [eo~] moritz Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:50:03 +0100 Von: moritz w. [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: padawan12 [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] netpd download all patch

Re: [PD] netpd download all patch

2006-11-09 Thread Enrique Erne
hi all, is there a way to download all the netpd-patches (http://www.netpd.org/NetpdPatches\)\? maybe a release each week/month? pat hi pat i know a way to do that. if got 122 patches in my netpd/patches directory and 242 in netpd/abs. some of them are testfiles and some are instruments

Re: [PD] netpd download all patch

2006-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 22:15 -0500, patrick wrote: is there a way to download all the netpd-patches (http://www.netpd.org/NetpdPatches)? maybe a release each week/month? hi the best option surely is to run netpd - start _chat.pd and open _creator.pd - and ask someone online to open all

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