RE: Some examples of actual pictures, WAS: Hands up who crops?

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Brigham
I actually agree with you pretty much in all of your examples. Sometimes we benefit from seeing the context around the subject. In fact sometimes the context IS the subject. The only one I might debate is the nun in venice. Personally I would try losing the person bisected by the frame on the

Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Peter S. wrote: Only one thing is odd: the automatic exposure check in the viewfinder works very erratic. It flickers for correct exposure when the reflector is tilted uppwards, not when its in 'normal position'. In the same position/distance to a possible motive that

Re: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Feb 2003 at 22:00, Alan Chan wrote: IMHO, if you use 1 filter only and use a deep hood, it doesn't make any practical difference. At least none of PLs is coated and I haven't seen any lost of sharpness. A hood can't exclude reflections generated by light sources within the angle of

Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Smekal
Mike, you definitely could be right. The flashhead of the Metz protudes rather much. More than for instance the Pentax AF280T. Doesn't solve the problem, but gives an explanation. Thanks so far! Peter Hi, Peter S. wrote: Only one thing is odd: the automatic exposure check in the viewfinder

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi, [...] Granted they have released a 70-200 f2.8 IF-ED G lens, I don't think most Nikon owners are worried that Nikon will abandon the F-mount Nikon has already abandoned the old F-mount. Or is your idea of full compatibility having to buy the F-100 (price $1000+) ? If Pentax goes along

Panorama switch on Z-70 and PZ-70

2003-02-12 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi all, I have just learned that the PZ-70 (no 'p' in the camera's name) features a panorama switch. Could it be that the Z-70 also has the panorama format, and that the Z-70p does not exist at all? Owners of any of these cameras (Z-70, Z-70p, PZ-70, PZ-70p), please check and let me know:

RE: FAJ lenses what the heck???? (Was Most Unknown Pentax Lens)

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Brigham
I note also that the charts refer to MZ-S series cameras! SERIES!!! Almost definitely reading too much into this, but it is intriguing! -Original Message- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 February 2003 16:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FAJ lenses what

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I had a lens disassembled and cleaned for less than $100. But it was affected with only a mile fungus. If your lens is truly full of mold, it may be a goner as the fungus may have eaten the coatings. But if the fungus is still fairly mild, it can be cleaned up. Mine is now as good as new, and the

New products at Cebit ??

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Brigham
From Photozone: According to Pentax Sweden, Pentax will show many new and interesting products at the CeBit show 12-19 march. This is probably digital photo products (CeBit is, after all, an IT show :-) ). Perhaps the DSLR will be officially launched at the CeBit (and showned only for specially

Re: Official response: the skinny on the FAJ lenses

2003-02-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Fred wrote: You know, this could actually be good news, in a strange sort of way, since it shows that Pentax does still have some interest (even if not for serious gear) in K-mount bodies and lenses. Also, it shows an interest in wooing point-and-shooters away from their little pocket-boxes

Re: New products at Cebit ??

2003-02-12 Thread Brendan
This is a wise move, get all the computer geeks to buy itlol, they'll sell like hot cakes. --- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Photozone: According to Pentax Sweden, Pentax will show many new and interesting products at the CeBit show 12-19 march. This is probably digital photo

Re: A strange screwmount lens

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This _might_ be the Super Takumar-Zoom 1:4.5 / 70 ~ 150 mm, 224mm long. This was the first Asahi zoom lens, manuf. 1964-1971. 67mm filter. 14 elements in 11 groups. Wt. 2.34 lb. Data from The Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide ~ 1952 - 1977. I think I

Re: Hands up who crops? (was: Megapixels required for an 8X10 print?)

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I own Capturing the Moment, the Newseum's collection of all Pulitzer-prize-winning photos from the 1940s to the late 1990s. In several of the photos that had been shot in crowded scenes with a 20 or a 24, there is no tell-tale line convergence or curvature at the edges. That tells me these photos

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Boz wrote: If Pentax goes along the same way (and they must, if they are to compete with Nikon and Canon), then our K and M lenses are doomed. Certainly not. According to Pentax KAF3 patents, both IS and USM will work without sacrificing compatibility. Pål

Re: FAJ lenses what the heck???? (Was Most Unknown Pentax Lens)

2003-02-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: I note also that the charts refer to MZ-S series cameras! SERIES!!! Almost definitely reading too much into this, but it is intriguing! A couple of years ago Pentax said at Japan camera show that they were considering a MZ-S based camera model placed below the MZ-S and one body

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Henry wrote: My problem is, if Pentax to going to release more lenses with FAJ mount to match the coming D-SLR, I will be gone to Canon. The FAJ lenses are not intended for a DSLR but for entry level film slr's. There's no point for me to remain staying with Pentax because my existing

Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread Rfsindg
Peter, Finder check goes on with the flash on bounce or with the 85/2 but not with the 50/1.4 ? ! ! Have you watched the recycle time? Doesn't the finder check 'flicker' work only while the flash is recycling. Once the flash capacitors have reached full charge, the light goes on solidly.

Re: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, if you use 1 filter only and use a deep hood, it doesn't make any practical difference. At least none of PLs is coated and I haven't seen any lost of sharpness. regards, Alan Chan one of my circular polarizers is multicoated and one

Re: Hands up who crops? (was: Megapixels required for an 8X10 print?)

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Feb 2003 at 7:47, Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote: I own Capturing the Moment, the Newseum's collection of all Pulitzer-prize-winning photos from the 1940s to the late 1990s. In several of the photos that had been shot in crowded scenes with a 20 or a 24, there is no tell-tale line

Re: A strange screwmount lens

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
The book did say that later in the production run the lenses were multi-coated. This was, I think, the first One-Touch zoom. The optical performance was rather good, too. g keith Mark Roberts wrote: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This _might_ be the Super Takumar-Zoom 1:4.5 / 70 ~

Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Smekal
Hi Bob, Well, it doesn't matter if I fire the flash att f1.4 or f22. The behaviour is the same. Besides that, according to the LX manual it should flicker anyhow. ??? Peter Peter, Finder check goes on with the flash on bounce or with the 85/2 but not with the 50/1.4 ? ! ! Have you watched

Re: Hands up who crops?

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
The answer to this question depends on whether I'm shooting for myself (artsy stuff for which I can impose my own pretentious, anal-retentive standards...just like everyone else g) or for someone else. For myself, I can recall only 2 photos that I've cropped in the past 10 years or so. Both were

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
Mike Johnston said: Just don't store it near your other lenses. Fungus is contagious. If it's truly full of mold (fungus), then the coatings and the elements have probably been damaged (etched). This can't be fixed. Well, it can be, but not cost-effectively. If it has slight traces of

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Certainly not. According to Pentax KAF3 patents, both IS and USM will work without sacrificing compatibility. IS=Image Stabilization, but what is USM?

OT:Ilford Chemical Confusion

2003-02-12 Thread David Brooks
Hi All. I was just looking at an Ilford PDF sheet for times to develop FP5+ and i noticed a paragraph that stated NOT to add the harder to the Rapid Fixer.(Aaron said i could) This contradicts the jug of harder that statesadd the harder to the rapid fixer at 1:40. Any comments from the Ilford

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Gregory L. Hansen wrote: Mike Johnston said: Just don't store it near your other lenses. Fungus is contagious. If it's truly full of mold (fungus), then the coatings and the elements have probably been damaged (etched). This can't be fixed. Well, it can be, but not

Rodchenko

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Ignatiev
got this book, Rodchenko, photography 1924-1954, from publisher overstock. one word -- WOW!. spent the whole evening looking at his photos, my jaw all the way down on the floor. best $20 i have ever spent. mishka

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
I think tomorrow that I will take my most recent lenses (acquired mostly thru ebay) in to the store to make sure they are clean. Steve, Don't bother. Just spend some time with your lenses and a flashlight in a room with subdued ambient light. Shine the flashlight through the lenses and

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
The autofocus actuator requires an Ultra Small Motor to drive it! keith whaley Gregory L. Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Certainly not. According to Pentax KAF3 patents, both IS and USM will work without sacrificing compatibility. IS=Image Stabilization, but what is USM?

Re: Cheap SLRs, WAS: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was: FAJlenses)

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
However, it may hurt some brand loyal people to realize that their favorite company is doing some, how to put it, odd things. I suppose that MZ-60 with some FAJ zoom attached is operationally no more complicated that any film PS. Boris, Lots of people like to, or need to, use their

Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
What is it? (By cheapest I mean poorest construction/materials.) The Vivitar V4000 comes to mind. Is there anything worse that that? Collin

RE: Rodchenko

2003-02-12 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Mike Ignatiev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] got this book, Rodchenko, photography 1924-1954, from publisher overstock. one word -- WOW!. spent the whole evening looking at his photos, my jaw all the way down on the floor. best $20 i have ever spent. On a

Re: While we were on tubes and flowers

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Greene
--- Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, thanks for sharing practical and useful info. It's stuff you wouldn't pick up in a weekend or two of taking flower pictures. Pat White __ Hey Pat! Have a good shoot this next flower show! Load up on film and get

Re: Cheap SLRs, WAS: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was: FAJlenses)

2003-02-12 Thread David Brooks
Mike,I looked at a used Bronica RF645 during Christmas and, despite its size,found it a nice camera to hold.Focus, controls all smooth. I then went and tried the Fuji GS645 folder i went originally to see and felt a big diference right a away.Like the Bronica much better. If i can save up enough

Re: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Your email has been deleted un-read. I have better things to do then waste my time with your drivel. Later, Gary

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Greene
--- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The autofocus actuator requires an Ultra Small Motor to drive it! keith whaley Gregory L. Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Certainly not. According to Pentax KAF3 patents, both IS and USM will work without sacrificing

RE: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Then why the hell did you waste even more of your time replying? Also, how did you know it was drivel without reading it? -Original Message- From: Gary L. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 February 2003 15:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheapest k-mount body

RE: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Gary L. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Your email has been deleted un-read. I have better things to do then waste my time with your drivel. Ouch. What was that for? tv

Re: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Isn't that OEMd by Cosina? BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is it? (By cheapest I mean poorest construction/materials.) The Vivitar V4000 comes to mind. Is there anything worse that that? Collin

Re: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Lasse Karlsson
One thing that keeps puzzling me is how some people seem to be in such a total lack of selfrespect that they don't hesitatet to, or obviously don't care if they even show the whole world what an extraordinary asshole they are. Lasse - Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL

Re: Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread akozak
It was great response, Alan!! Why to change to Canon/Nikon if maybe Pentax introduces similar technology with any kind of compatibility? If so for many of us it will be still the best mount. Hope our dreams come true. Alek Uytkownik Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: My problem is, if Pentax to

Re: Cheap SLRs, WAS: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was: FAJlenses)

2003-02-12 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi Mike, Mike Johnston wrote: It is to be hoped that Pentax will not move towards making all new lenses with no aperture ring. But when many dealers are successfully selling inexpensive SLRs with one or two zooms in preference to actual point-and-shoots, that's a good thing--and it's smart

Re: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Greene
I’ve got to comment here. After reading Bob’s post, I went outside (Wednesday, February 12, 2003) with my camera and Gossen Luna Pro light meter, # 4D51102. I shot a few scenes to check both instruments, then shot them in tandem against a solid tan/light brown/stucco exterior for my own

Re: Panorama switch on Z-70 and PZ-70

2003-02-12 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bojidar Dimitrov a écrit: Hi all, I have just learned that the PZ-70 (no 'p' in the camera's name) features a panorama switch. Could it be that the Z-70 also has the panorama format, and that the Z-70p does not exist at all? Owners of any of these cameras (Z-70, Z-70p, PZ-70, PZ-70p), please

Re: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Mat Maessen
Kalimar K-90. cheap cheap cheap. But it does do pseudo-mirror-lockup with the self-timer. -Mat Collin Brendemuehl wrote: What is it? (By cheapest I mean poorest construction/materials.) The Vivitar V4000 comes to mind. Is there anything worse that that? Collin

Re: Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread Jose R. Rodriguez
Peter, You may want to check your Metz Flash manual instead of the LX manual. I believe that the automatic exposure check function is different between Pentax TTL Flashes w/LX and Metz TTL Flashes w/LX. I will check my manual later and make certain. Regards, Jose R. Rodriguez From:

Vs: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Raimo Korhonen
The PDML is different. Very different. Usually. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 12. helmikuuta 2003 3:02

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Andre Langevin
Paul: After seeing your post, I called the owner just now. Apparently after I left the store, the guy behind the counter pulled out some kind of special light. When he looked inside the lens, he said it is full of mold. He said it is basically a paper weight. So, tomorrow, I am getting the

Fwd: Urgent

2003-02-12 Thread Doug Brewer
This just in from Chris Brogden: A friend of mine is looking to buy or rent a Pentax stereo adapter, the kind that fit onto the front of a lens to allow for stereo photography. He doesn't need the stereo viewer, just the adapter that fits on the lens. He's working within a pretty tight

Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread Andre Langevin
Jose, Indeed the Metz has its own exposure ckeck function (a red light). However, why does the LX automatic exposure check function sometimes at all? ?:-| Peter What my TTL Metz flashes (CT-4 CT-5) do with my LXs: they don't flicker so I have to check outside on the flash. I have not noticed

Re: While were on tubes and flowersg

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Greene
--- Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:08 PM 2/11/03, Mafud/Matt/Kirkland/Whoever wrote: Make friends with your local Florist**. **With the caution that many of them are Gay and may take your approach as a come-on. Keep it business-like inthat case or just back-off. Do

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the mount can be backward compatible doesn't mean it will be. That takes an act of will. There is nothing to prevent KAF3 mounts to be on J lenses only. So you think they'll make new high-tech lenses that are incompatible with their

DC Outing #5 (change of plans)

2003-02-12 Thread tom
We're still on for 2/24 at 7:30, but we've changed the location to The Hard Times Cafe: http://www.hardtimes.com/collegepark.htm It's about 30 seconds from the 495/Rt. 1 interchange. I'll try and get a big table in the room to the left as you walk in the door. Those coming from Baltimore need

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole thing is about people claiming Pentax will abandon compatibility because they have released two lenses with limited compatibility. It is absurd. Theres no basis for any such conclusion. Pentax have released bodies with the same limitation years

Two versions of 1.9/43? was Re: FAJ lenses what the heck????

2003-02-12 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
The information is here: http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6 Goto --Lenses--SMC FA Interchangeable Lenses (download the manual). The quote is on page 36 (I think). In the new FA Lenses manual is written, that all limited lenses have this green point to find the right lens position

Re: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Pat White
Putting an uncoated or single-coated filter on an SMC lens is like putting all-season tires on a Ferrari. Or, to put it another way, putting any filter in front of the lens will cause _some_ image degradation (loss of contrast or sharpness). An SMC filter will cause the least degradation. In

OT now: Re:  Cheap SLRs, WAS: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was:FAJlenses)

2003-02-12 Thread David Brooks
Begin Original Message From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave, You ought to buy it now if you can. Bronica is offering a $450 rebate until March. That makes the RF645 and the 65mm normal lens cost about $1150, which is a screaming bargain. Thanks Mike. This works out to about

Re: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Gary L. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Your email has been deleted un-read. I have better things to do then waste my time with your drivel. Ouch. What was that for? Probably he's just in a bad mood because of being hit on

Re: Re: OT:Ilford Chemical Confusion

2003-02-12 Thread David Brooks
Thanks Tim. We use the same stuff in class with good results,so for saftey i'll pick up some and use the Ilford dev. Dave Begin Original Message From: Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:05:37 -0800 To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
Any filter that has some color tint to it does not pass all the light entering it. The color tint is due to absorption of some color light. Your light meter does not measure the difference because it is not sensitive enough for these small differences. If you had a color temp. meter it

Re: While were on tubes and flowersg

2003-02-12 Thread Doug Brewer
At 12:41 PM 2/12/03, Mafud wrote: I used to be a photographer at dog shows. It took about two shows for me to discover that most of the male professional handlers and groomers, even a vet or two, were homosexuals. A lot of Hair Stylists, barbers and Cosmetologists are Gay; but you already knew

Re: Cheapest k-mount body

2003-02-12 Thread Doug Brewer
At 01:20 PM 2/12/03, Mark wrote: Probably he's just in a bad mood because of being hit on by a gay florist. And because Pentax is about to switch to a totally-non-backwards-compatible lens mount and send special agents into all our homes to confiscate all our old-style k-mount gear. Tempers get

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
If Pentax takes away the aperture ring at the same time when introducing the new technologies like ultrasonic motor and image stabilizing, that's the end of my investment on Pentax equipment. I feel betrayed for my long patience on Pentax. Henry, With all due respect, I think you may be

Re: Cheap SLRs, WAS: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was:FAJlenses)

2003-02-12 Thread gfen
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Mike Johnston wrote: I don't know if you read about Bethlehem Steel cutting off its former workers' pensions. I'm sure it never expected that it would be down to 20% of its peak workforce. Read about Bethlehem Steel? You should try LIVING here.. I think every male member

of topic that grew out of Re: While were on tubes and flowersg

2003-02-12 Thread bran . everseeking
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/12/03 at 09:41 AM, Matt Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: |Nothing like making an issue of an innocent |observation. nothing like pretending homophobia/hate is anything other than what it is; anything but innocent. Bran --

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: But where have you heard about Pentax introducing USM or IS lenses? From what I've heard, both those technologies are closely controlled by Canon. Maybe for USM. For IS, however, there are several patents holders. The optics seems to me mostly Asahi patents. The only thing Canon

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
I also predict I won't be proven wrong for a few years, and then nobody here would remember, so it's like a freebie for me. *chuckle*

The Purpose of Cheap Lenses ...

2003-02-12 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
... is to make cheaper starter kits. There's nothing for the user of the nicer lenses to fear. Didn't Canon Nikon did this ages ago on some lenses? Pentax, as always it seems, is last. Collin

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Okay by me, Matt! I stand corrected! g Thanks for the correction. keith whaley Matt Greene wrote: --- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The autofocus actuator requires an Ultra Small Motor to drive it! keith whaley Gregory L. Hansen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
Huh? Nothing preventing them to releadse them with Canon mount ether! The whole thing is about people claiming Pentax will abandon compatibility because they have released two lenses with limited compatibility. It is absurd. Theres no basis for any such conclusion. Pentax have released bodies

Re: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Mike Johnston
Or, to put it another way, putting any filter in front of the lens will cause _some_ image degradation (loss of contrast or sharpness). ...Allegedly. However, Ctein's Law applies: If you can't see it, it doesn't count. --Mike

incidentally...

2003-02-12 Thread Doug Brewer
...anyone who has recently come into my crosshairs for off-topic behavior is now free to take advantage of this one-time offer to take me to task for my recent savaging of Mafudkirklandmatt, if you so desire. order before midnight tomorrow. operators are standing by yr hmbl svt Doug

Dave's new AF body

2003-02-12 Thread WBeard
Thanks Mike. This works out to about $1900 Can.:)Not bad Unfortunatly i spent most of my camera saveup cash on a new, to me, AF body on the weekend.Have to start fresh now.g Dave Come on Dave, what did you just buy? Or did you tell us already and I missed it? Or worse - it wasn't Pentax and

Re: Cheap SLRs, WAS: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was: FAJ lenses)

2003-02-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I usually enjoy reading your longer posts. This one was no exception. MJ It's hard for US to believe, but many people just need to take pictures, and MJ are not interested in the camera equipment or how all the camera controls MJ work! Here I agree, but still, I think that if I paid

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread gfen
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Mike Johnston wrote: But where have you heard about Pentax introducing USM or IS lenses? From I was under the impression that IS patents were put out by Pentax many years ago, and further more that the current IS and VR lenses were based on these patents? I won't fight if

Re: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Mike Johnston wrote: [...] Perhaps it is human nature to extrapolate. Well, it sure is on PDML, pilgrim! g keith whaley g --Mike

Re: FAJ lenses what the heck???? (Was Most Unknown Pentax Lens)

2003-02-12 Thread Alexander Krohe
Pål wrote: Rob wrote: I note also that the charts refer to MZ-S series cameras! SERIES!!! Almost definitely reading too much into this, but it is intriguing! A couple of years ago Pentax said at Japan camera show that they were considering a MZ-S based camera model placed below the

Canon Condescension

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Alling
I thought I'd share this with the group. I just actually read the Canon advert. on the back of this months Pop. Photography, not only does it start out condescending but it get's worse. I found this statement to be especially hilarious. [cannon lenses are] all forward compatible too. So a

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Peter Alling wrote: To fungi everything is nutritious, I'm not kidding. I understand the thrust of your comment, but please see below... At 09:07 AM 2/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: Mike Johnston said: Just don't store it near your other lenses. Fungus is contagious. If it's truly

Re: Two versions of 1.9/43? was Re: FAJ lenses what the heck????

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Alling
I'd say it's a minor variation. I have two smc-m 50 1.4's they have minor variations in cosmetics. Most would not ever notice the difference. I do like the idea of a finger index for mounting the lens. At 06:44 PM 2/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: The information is here:

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Hah! found something right away! Look at this rather comprehensive site on lens fungii: http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/fungus.html keith * * * * Keith Whaley wrote: Peter Alling wrote: To fungi everything is nutritious, I'm not kidding. I understand the thrust of your comment, but please

of flower contest and short hiatus from the list

2003-02-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Re the photo contest - after seeing Karen Johnson's spectacularly beautiful Dahlia on usenet I think I had better just put my flowers back in my drawer. Can't compete. I've gotta get off list for a few days, though may not actually leave until late tonight. Be nice to each other while I'm

Re: The Purpose of Cheap Lenses ...

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Alling
I don't think you can get a Canon lens in EOS that has a f-stop ring, I could be wrong but I've never seen one. (I stopped caring about Canon when they screwed their user base). At 02:08 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: ... is to make cheaper starter kits. There's nothing for the user of the

Best cheap telephoto?

2003-02-12 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
I've been looking around lately for telephoto lenses 500mm or longer. I found a Phoenix 650-1300mm f/8-16 zoom for $260, which seemed like a wonderful new toy, but someone that had used the lens complained of poor contrast and a bluish tint, and declared it a turkey. With some modern computer

Re: Dave's new AF body

2003-02-12 Thread brooksdj
Come on Dave, what did you just buy? Or did you tell us already and I missed it? Or worse - it wasn't Pentax and you're too embarassed to tell us ;-) I cannot submitt PUG themes with it Wendy, sorry. Kept all my mf stuff though, SP,K1000 SP500 SP1000

Space-time issues

2003-02-12 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Why do responses come before causes in my digest? Is there a problem with the quantum flux alignment? :) Collin (still unemployed, but an interview is on the horizon) Brendemuehl * Re: Best cheap telephoto? [ gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] . . . Best cheap telephoto?

RE: End of K-mount?

2003-02-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I've never heard of ANY patent lasting only 7 years, 17 is about the minimum isnt it?. JCO -Original Message- From: Gregory L. Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: End of K-mount? Mike Johnston said: But

Re: Vs: Coating on Filters?

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Greene
--- Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it´s the other way round, skylight blocks blue light - like the light coming from the blue sky . All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Matt Greene

Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2003-02-12 Thread Chris Thomaidis
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:03:46 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #40 -- Content-Type: text/plain pentax-discuss-d DigestVolume 03 : Issue 40 Today's Topics: Re:

Re: Advice needed on SMC 120mm/F2.8 lens

2003-02-12 Thread Keith Whaley
I wouldn't think of disputing him... keith Peter Alling wrote: Keith I have a friend who's a Mycologist. This is his attitude from what I saw of some of his experiments I believe him. At 11:45 AM 2/12/2003 -0800, you wrote: Peter Alling wrote: To fungi everything is nutritious,

RE: Re: LX + Mecablitz

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Smekal
Hi Jose, I have no manual for my SCA 372 module (it's from ebay), so your mail was extremely helpful. I will test the flash with this in mind! I already recognize the patterns. Thank you very much!! Peter Peter, The following is from my Metz SCA 373 Module's Manual that I use with my Metz 45

Re: Canon Condescension

2003-02-12 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Peter, on 12 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list: [cannon lenses are] all forward compatible too. So a lens bought today can be used on the EOS camera of tomorrow. Maybe they mean *really* tomorrow :-) Cheers, Heiko

Pentax, wake up! (was: K and M lenses are now obsolete)

2003-02-12 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi Arnold, So maybe it really is better not to unveil product news until the products can really be bought. PATHETIC SECTION I believe that a company should have a strategic vision for the future. At least this is what all those economics and management books say. I believe that once you

Thoughts on the FA* 28-70 F2.8

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Erickson
All, I went backcountry skiing this weekend and took my MZ-S, BG-10, and FA* 28-70 F2.8 lens. While huffing puffing up the mountains, I had plenty of time to muse on my Pentax equipment. In particular, you may recall that there is a difference of opinion regarding the FA* 28-70 F2.8 lens. I

Where's Brad Dobo???

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Eriksson
He's been gone for months _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Re: Canon Condescension

2003-02-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Canon Condescension [cannon lenses are] all forward compatible too. So a lens bought today can be used on the EOS camera of tomorrow. They said the same thing in the 1970's about the FD mount. Back then, it was the Canon of

Re: of topic that grew out of Re: While were on tubes and flowersg

2003-02-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Matt Greene Subject: Re: of topic that grew out of Re: While were on tubes and flowersg Instead of asking me, snip . Wow, that didn't take long. WW

Re: incidentally...

2003-02-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: incidentally... ...anyone who has recently come into my crosshairs for off-topic behavior is now free to take advantage of this one-time offer to take me to task for my recent savaging of Mafudkirklandmatt, if you so desire. Nah, I

Re: OT:Ilford Chemical Confusion

2003-02-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Brooks Subject: OT:Ilford Chemical Confusion Hi All. I was just looking at an Ilford PDF sheet for times to develop FP5+ and i noticed a paragraph that stated NOT to add the harder to the Rapid Fixer.(Aaron said i could) This contradicts the jug of

Re: DC Outing #5 (change of plans)

2003-02-12 Thread Christian Skofteland
me too. Christian On Wednesday 12 February 2003 16:53, Ed Mathews wrote: I'm planning on it. Ed -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:08 PM To: pdml; Cesar Matamoros; Christian Skofteland; Dglenn@Radix. Net; Ed Mathews;

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