Re: F* 300/4.5 impressions

Doug...how could you think such a thing. I was just thinking of just shipping you off to Siberia for a while... :-D Cheers Shaun Doug Franklin wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:48:05 +0800, Shaun Canning wrote: As long as you tell me where you live :-) Don't think I'd be so silly as to

First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

Hi, yesterday my smc-DA 14/2.8 arrived. Here are some short impressions. Maybe I'll find some time to upload some images, later. - Very good built quality, no plastics, pure metal! - It has a smaller image circle than a 35mm lens (as expected) but I'm quite sure that the imgae circle ist wide

Re: 6x7 neg scanner

On Jun 27, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Kevin Waterson wrote: Less than 2000.00 would be nice If you're talking USD you could get a Minolta Scan Multi Pro for that money. One of these is second on my big-ticket shopping list, right after a decent printer. However I suspect you're talking AUD so you might

Re: Now a long OT vent)

On 26/6/04, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, offered: [snipped justified rant] Today, at noon, my bag is delivered and this nightmare is finally over. Wow, that feels better. Other than that a pretty good trip eh? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Re (Now a long OT vent)

Andto think I used to like AA! One thing's for certain: be VERY glad someone found all those broken planes at all! I don't know why you managed to find so many, but were it me, I'd be glad they found this stuff while still on the ground! Another thought: I suspect the phrase broken plane or

Re: PAW: A boy and My dog

Hi! Had to join in on this boy/dog theme http://www.beard-redfern.com/tmp/boy_dog.jpg Wendy, I realize this is not original, but I'd much rather see all of boy's hands. Especially the left one. I'd say everything is quite fine but the hands... Just my pixels... Boris

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Hi! Oh god I did it again ! duh - here it is http://users.rcn.com/annsan/pittsburghjune17.jpg I should say I am left kinda confused. What is the purpose of hydrant? Does it compete with the face on the board for attention of the driver? It is a fine shot, really, but it feels like there is some

Re: F* 300/4.5 impressions

On Jun 27, 2004, at 6:10 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Sorry, that's a cold, dead hands lens. :-) Along with the FA* 200/2.8. Yeah, what he said. I think I'll add the SMCP 35mm f/3.5 to that list as well. Boy do I need a holiday. Cheers, - Dave (pining for the fjords)

Re: F* 300/4.5 impressions

On Jun 26, 2004, at 5:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm intrigued that people seem to like the FA 300/4.5 clutch mechanism and focus feel better, since the F 300/4.5 seems pretty nice to me in those respects. What annoys me about the F lens is that when you want to switch between auto and

PAW - Reflection

A day late as I decided to watch a movie last night instead :) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=27-Jun-2004 Sorry about the ugly page design... it's the same basic design as always but I've fiddled with the colour scheme to get rid of the black border and generally make the

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Good eye, Ann. Interesting shot. The predominance of white offset by the splash of color in the center words well for me as does the juxtaposition of the car's curving lines and the architectural geometry. Even the lines in the street add interest as they seem to almost emanate from the

Re: PAW - Reflection

On 27/6/04, David Mann, discombobulated, offered: A day late as I decided to watch a movie last night instead :) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=27-Jun-2004 Lovely. Very nice. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

On 27/6/04, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, offered: Oh god I did it again ! duh - here it is http://users.rcn.com/annsan/pittsburghjune17.jpg I should say I am left kinda confused. What is the purpose of hydrant? Does it compete with the face on the board for attention of the driver? It is

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

In mono with the car driver looking out towards the camera it would be very HCB. HCB? What does this mean? Thanks. Boris

Re: PAW - Reflection

Hi! A day late as I decided to watch a movie last night instead :) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=27-Jun-2004 Dave, this is quite excellent. But it brought me way beyond what you probalby could have concieved. So here goes. There are some sci fi books in cyberpunk genre that

Re: *istD CCD cleaning

Hi, Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see no good reason (except cheapness) for using methanol in a cleaning fluid when there are much safer and equally effective alternatives. What is better? Either of the Propanols (there is plain

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

On 27/6/04, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, offered: In mono with the car driver looking out towards the camera it would be very HCB. HCB? What does this mean? Thanks. Boris Henri Cartier-Bresson. He found wonderful parallels in the components of his pics. I face looking out from an

Re: OT - test

And nice to see that your email client now properly uses threading. So your email messages show up in the thread, instead of creating a new one. On Thursday 24 June 2004 19:30, Cotty wrote: FJW On 24/6/04, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, offered: FJW FJW Aha! Congratulations! FJW Good to see it

Re: OT - test

On 27/6/04, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, offered: And nice to see that your email client now properly uses threading. So your email messages show up in the thread, instead of creating a new one. In digest, you have to copy and paste the subject line into the reply email - was this action you

Re: OT - test

Actually, I never checked that. For some reason I noticed your email's in the past did that, and I didn't realize it was related to reading the digest. I noticed you used to reply to your own email messages when you replied to other threads, so I was wondering why this happened, now I

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Hi! Henri Cartier-Bresson. He found wonderful parallels in the components of his pics. I face looking out from an advertising hoarding would be mimicked by a real face. They may be considered clicked shots by some but for me they are brilliant. Oh I see. Well, I admit to be very illiterate anyway

Re: PAW - Reflection

Love this one. The perfect symmetry is quite fascinating, and the scene is beautiful. New Zealand remains my favorite corner of the world. Wish I could visit again. Paul

Asahi Pentax 400mm f5.6 Tele Takumar

Hi all good people. Anyone know this lens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3823874307 ? Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

RE: PAW - Reflection

Ckiche or not - it's a beautiful photograph. Cheers Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. juni 2004 13:40 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PAW - Reflection Hi! A day late as I

SMC-A* 135 f1.8

This just sold tonight for $1,695.00 USD. Wow...what a price. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3822857681 Cheers Shaun -- _ Dr. Shaun Canning P.O. Box 21, Dampier, WA, 6714, Australia. m: 0414 967644

Re: PAW - Reflection

Either I need better scenery or more talent... David Mann wrote: A day late as I decided to watch a movie last night instead :) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=27-Jun-2004 Sorry about the ugly page design... it's the same basic design as always but I've fiddled with the colour

Re: PAW: A boy and My dog

I don't care, I think this is just sweet. wendy beard wrote: Had to join in on this boy/dog theme http://www.beard-redfern.com/tmp/boy_dog.jpg The dog is mine (it's Tanja), the boy isn't. This was taken two years ago at a picnic organised by the local Bernese Mountain Dog club. The boy could

RE: Asahi Pentax 400mm f5.6 Tele Takumar

Its an excellent lens no doubt, but there is a better version with SMC coatings otherwise just like it, and in any case both of them have MANUAL aperture setting workable but slow. I still recommend the RMC Tokina 400 5.6 It has full auto aperture and the multicoatings and is at least as good as

Re: SMC-A* 135 f1.8

This one time, at band camp, Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This just sold tonight for $1,695.00 USD. Wow...what a price. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3822857681 I still think I will keep mine, tis a fine lens for stage photography Kevin -- __

Re: Asahi Pentax 400mm f5.6 Tele Takumar

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:06:06 +0200, you wrote: Hi all good people. Anyone know this lens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3823874307 ? Cheers The design of these old 400mm lenses usually has very long minimum focus distance, about 30 feet, which becomes frustrating very

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Paul Stenquist wrote: Good eye, Ann. Interesting shot. The predominance of white offset by the splash of color in the center words well for me as does the juxtaposition of the car's curving lines and the architectural geometry. Even the lines in the street add interest as they seem to

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Cotty wrote: On 27/6/04, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, offered: Oh god I did it again ! duh - here it is http://users.rcn.com/annsan/pittsburghjune17.jpg I should say I am left kinda confused. What is the purpose of hydrant? Does it compete with the face on the board for

Re: PAW - Man Getting a Shoe Shine

On 26/6/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, offered: I'm bleary-eyed. Been working on this one for a while, cleaning up a scratched and spotted negative. I wish I could do that as fast and as easily as some of you. Oh well ... This was taken a few years back and was one of the more

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

- It is wide open (2.8) sharper than the 16-45 wide open (4.0); You have to stop down the 16-45 to 4.5 in order to get the same result. This is very good news since I use my primes in low light. - The 16-45 is told to underexpose one stop. Really? Who claims this? I haven't noticed such a

Re: Now a long OT vent)

Today, at noon, my bag is delivered and this nightmare is finally over. Wow, that feels better. Other than that a pretty good trip eh? Cheers, Cotty Or, as the saying in the U.S. goes, Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play? Sometime I'll tell the tale of the time I flew to

Re: *istD CCD cleaning

The stuff to look for in ethanol, is Everclear (98%). You can get it at liquor stores. It was actually used during WWII as an optical cleaner used for periscope lenses on submarines, but being potable they sell it as booze (with all the appropriate taxes). In some WWII stories from the South

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Hi Ann, It took a second viewing, after my morning tea, to see the subtlety of this shot. I like it. However, I think that the heavy black border around it is too much, and that a thinner black border won't compete as much with the image. Also, the white background that comes up on my browser

Re: PAW - Man Getting a Shoe Shine

Thanks. One of the things I like about it is the tonality of the Tri-X. The silvery greys are just super, imo. Even with the shots I don't get right, I can still revel in their tonality. Long live silver! Shel [Original Message] From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shel, that is a

Re: Kowa Prominar TD-1, 3mp, 450-1350 f2.8-4 zoom

But the specs! The specs will sell it. The ignorant will buy it. The sensor is 1/2.5 (0.4) says so right in the specs. -- John Francis wrote: - Original Message - From: John Mustarde Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:10 PM Subject: Kowa Prominar TD-1, 3mp, 450-1350 f2.8-4 zoom

PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden

Marilyn has a small garden at the front of her small home in a quiet part of Oakland, California. The garden is a little wild, and that's Marilyn's preference. She works hard to maintain the wild feel. On a low wall in the garden are the shoes. They belonged to her dad who has been gone for

RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Perkeo 120 folder

It seems that some of you are still buying film gear. Are you camera collectors or do you actually still use film (like me)? I have been very close to selling all my 35mm film gear (Pentax bodies). I wonder if I should keep it or sell. Is ait already to late to sell at reasonable prices? Jens

RE: Another one bites the dust.. lost customers

They advertice the EOS 300D as Enthusiats Kit! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. juni 2004 02:58 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Another one bites the dust.. lost customers

Re: Paw (for whatever week this is)

Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Ann, It took a second viewing, after my morning tea, to see the subtlety of this shot. I like it. However, I think that the heavy black border around it is too much, and that a thinner black border won't compete as much with the image. Also, the white

RE: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Perkeo 120 folder

Jens Bladt wrote: It seems that some of you are still buying film gear. Are you camera collectors or do you actually still use film (like me)? I have been very close to selling all my 35mm film gear (Pentax bodies). I wonder if I should keep it or sell. Is ait already to late to sell at

Re: 20mm filters

On a general note, any recommendations on lens hoods? Are the Pentax recommend worthwhile? Or has someone found something better. The recommended hood is fine but quite large. I think you can use it with one filter and it still won't vignette but I have not tried the 20mm with both filter

Re: Pentax F-series lenses - Contrarian

Two words here are professional standards. You wouldn't want to shoot a wedding without a 2.8 lens, in a church. With a fast lens you do not have to use flash (or can use it just to spicy up the photographs, not as a sole means of illumination). Of course many slower lenses are as good optically,

Re: SMC-A* 135 f1.8

This just sold tonight for $1,695.00 USD. Wow...what a price. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3822857681 I still think I will keep mine, tis a fine lens for stage photography Yes. It's still a nice lens for certain situations, whether on a film body or (I assume) on

July PUG is available

Hi folks, The July PUG is ready on my website AND on the komkon server. This means: The archives are NOT!!! working on both pages. At least not for the last 5 months. But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the pictures of July. I don't have much space on my site, so

Re: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Perkeo 120 folder

Hi, Jens Bladt wrote: It seems that some of you are still buying film gear. Are you camera collectors or do you actually still use film (like me)? I have been very close to selling all my 35mm film gear (Pentax bodies). I wonder if I should keep it or sell. Is ait already to late to sell at

Pentax 645 back cover on eBay

Hi Can any of you guys help me with something. A few days ago there was a 645 rear cover on eBay. Anyone know the lister? or remember the item number? Badly need one to test my 645's functions. Any help very much appreciated. John Whittingham Technician

Re: July PUG is available

Yay, Adelheid Jostein! Thanks again for all the hard work. ERN

Re: PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden

Too tight, left right edges over-cropped. No sense of context. Good tonality though, excellent detail. But the comp is wrong, sorry, but doesn't live up to a shelbel. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marilyn has a small garden at the front of her small home in a quiet part of Oakland, California.

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

I do see some CA in the corners, Is this color fringing something we will just have to live with? Last week, between transit disasters, I took some pix of the Jefferson Memorial with the *ist D and DA 16-45 f4. One shot was from a distance, across the Tidal Basin. At the juncture between the

Re: SMC-A* 135 f1.8

This one time, at band camp, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This just sold tonight for $1,695.00 USD. Wow...what a price. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3822857681 I still think I will keep mine, tis a fine lens for stage photography Yes. It's still a nice lens

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

have you tried a tool to remove the chromatic abberation. there is one in the Photoshop CS converter and there are other programs that have it as a built-in function like Picture Window Pro. Herb - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: July PUG is available

Adelheid v. K. wrote: Hi folks, The July PUG is ready on my website AND on the komkon server. This means: The archives are NOT!!! working on both pages. At least not for the last 5 months. But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the pictures of July. Great

Re: SMC-A* 135 f1.8

On 27 Jun 2004 at 14:19, Fred wrote: Yes. It's still a nice lens for certain situations, whether on a film body or (I assume) on the *ist-D. (Actually, has anyone used this critter on his/her *ist-D?) I use mine with the *ist D, but only when there is insufficient light to use my V125/2.5

RE: Another one bites the dust.. lost customers

On 27 Jun 2004 at 19:34, Jens Bladt wrote: They advertice the EOS 300D as Enthusiats Kit! Down the bottom of the page they also have a Canon EOS 300D Super Kit at AU$1,849.95 whereas the equivalent Pentax *ist-D/Sigma 18-50 Kit is AU$2,499.95. Unfortunately due to the conflicting interests of

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

On 27 Jun 2004 at 20:47, DagT wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=408620 Se the picture of the tree and the cropped picture showing the upper left part of the tree picture. This looks more like sensor vs angle of incidence problems than projected CA as the areas which

Re: *ist D survey

Mine is 5687xxx, purchased early December 2003, small local photo store. Stan On Jun 18, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi all, In my effort of understanding (guessing?) something better about the *ist D, I'll ask all *ist D owners to post the main part of the serial No. of the camera

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

Here's a question since not everyone has PS CS or other programs: Why can't these lenses be made so there's no or minimal CA? Seems to me that all the digi folks have gotta put up with this crap, and the solution offered is to go buy a $600.00 program to remove it in the editing process. Regular

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

On 27 Jun 2004 at 16:09, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Here's a question since not everyone has PS CS or other programs: Why can't these lenses be made so there's no or minimal CA? Seems to me that all the digi folks have gotta put up with this crap, and the solution offered is to go buy a $600.00

Re: PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden (A different Perspective)

Thanks for the honest comments. Really appreciate 'em. I did take make another shot: http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/paw/shoes04.html which shows more context. I'll say no more LOL Shel Subject: Re: PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden Too tight, left right edges over-cropped.

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

On 28 Jun 2004 at 9:22, Rob Studdert wrote: Sorry I'll try that paragraph again: Most all wide angle lenses exhibit some CA, the problems exhibited when using them with digicams is a little more complex as sensors have two primary characteristics that are very different from film. Firstly

Re: PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden (A different Perspective)

Not sure if I like this much better. The lack of contrast doesn't help. Perhaps this is a case where color may have been better. What may have been interesting is to have even a little more context, shot in BW and then hand colored the shoes. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, June 27, 2004,

Re: July PUG is available

Annsan posted: Not many pics up - undoubtedly because people ARE on vacation :) but what there is is churce (choice) What surprised me -- and this is simply an observation, not any kind of complaint or judgement -- is that there weren't more Grandfather Mountain pictures in this PUG,

Re: July PUG is available

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Annsan posted: Not many pics up - undoubtedly because people ARE on vacation :) but what there is is churce (choice) What surprised me -- and this is simply an observation, not any kind of complaint or judgement -- is that there weren't more Grandfather

Re: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Perkeo 120 folder

To me the craft of BW photography in the darkroom is still an interesting and important part of the hobby. - mike wilson wrote: Hi, Jens Bladt wrote: It seems that some of you are still buying film gear. Are you camera collectors or do you actually still use film (like me)? I have been very

RE: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

They could have gotten rid of it, if they had used ED elements. It's that simple, typically lenses with that type of glass cost a bit more though. -That Guy -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

Any DA14 users care to test it on film and see how serious the CA actually is? Or was it the CCD? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE*

RE: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

DA14 does have ED. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan They could have gotten rid of it, if they had used ED elements. It's that simple, typically lenses with that type of glass cost a bit more though. _ MSN Premium helps

Re: July PUG is available

Since I had already put up a gallery of GFM pictures, I purposely chose not to submit a GFM picture. I suspect others may have felt the same. Bruce Sunday, June 27, 2004, 5:21:07 PM, you wrote: etn Annsan posted: Not many pics up - undoubtedly because people ARE on vacation :) but what

Re: Beautiful SF1n kit, Voigtlander Perkeo 120 folder

I'm going to continue using my film cameras, although my volume has been reduced dramatically. I've gone from averaging one roll of 36 exposure film per day to about one roll per month. However, I'm now shooting about 50 digital frames every day. Paul On Jun 27, 2004, at 8:40 PM, graywolf

Re: PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden (A different Perspective)

Very interesting. My eyes are drawn to the odd assortment to the right, I'm trying to find some meaning in them. Is is random, or intentional? I don't know. The shot has become more interesting, but I want more, there has to be more, given the story you gave us behind it. Where is the

Re: SMC-A* 135 f1.8

Yes. It's still a nice lens for certain situations, whether on a film body or (I assume) on the *ist-D. (Actually, has anyone used this critter on his/her *ist-D?) Yes, I use it regularly for stage (low light) And how does the lens perform on the *ist-D, then, Kevin, either compared to

Re: SMC-A* 135 f1.8

Yes. It's still a nice lens for certain situations, whether on a film body or (I assume) on the *ist-D. (Actually, has anyone used this critter on his/her *ist-D?) I use mine with the *ist D, but only when there is insufficient light to use my V125/2.5 ;-) You know, Rob, when I saw your

Re: July PUG is available

yep uh-huh - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Since I had already put up a gallery of GFM pictures, I purposely chose not to submit a GFM picture. I suspect others may have felt the same. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system

Re: PAW - The Shoes in Marilyn's Garden (A different Perspective)

Forget what I said earlier. Just let the photo stand by itself. I said too much in my initial post, proving, or at least giving credence to, the idea that the viewer can be influenced by too much information. What difference does it make where the garden is in relation to the wall and the

Re: First smc-DA14/2.8 impressions

Say these are correct. How do Canon Nikon deal with it? Do they have more effective solution? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Mast all wide angle lenses exhibit some CA, the problem with digicams is a little more complex, sensors have two characteristics that are very different from

PAW: Milan and the Hairless Dog

Again, one of what's becoming a series: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2479712 Just a friend (Milan), holding a weird hairless thing that isn't actually hers. Not much more than a snapshot; I kind of like it, but knowing Milan (as you don't) may influence me. Please feel free to

Re: July PUG is available

Nah, being the predictable fellow that I am, bereft of any discernable imagination, I sent in a GFM pic. I'm pretending that folks outside of PDML actually look at this little gallery (even though I know it's not true). No worries though, it's not one of my best works (I know, that casts a

RE: Paw (for whatever week this is)

You may be annsan the procrastinatoress (I wouldn't have spelled it that way, but who am I to argue with a Scrabble Babe? g), but you're also annsan the linkless (as in: where's the link for the pic?) ever hopeful, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The

Re: PAW: Milan and the Hairless Dog

It's kind of in focus - was that a mistake? VBG Bruce Sunday, June 27, 2004, 7:53:02 PM, you wrote: ft Again, one of what's becoming a series: ft http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2479712 ft Just a friend (Milan), holding a weird hairless thing that isn't actually ft hers. Not

Re: Re (Now a long OT vent)

Joe, At the start of your rant (sorry, vent), it sounded like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. As in I knew I should have made that left at Albequerque. And, of course, then flying into O' HARE (hare as in rabbit)... However, I realized it wasn't a Looney Toon when you didn't end up in Pismo Beach.