Re: Stop buying K-5s...new lens(es) !!

2010-11-10 Thread Dario Bonazza
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Please, tell me if I am too tedious with this: http://k-rumors.com/pentax-lens-group-foto-unveils-new-lenses/ Not tedious at all. Please keep this stuff coming! That's a nice intriguing mix of old new stuff! I believe that 135 to be an old prototype lens, unsure if

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/9/2010 10:35 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: I know what you mean. The DS kind of snuggled into my hands. I didn't even have to 'hold' it. That's probably the only thing with K10D that did not go as smoothly. K10D is slightly big for my hands. K7 is more ergonomically convenient for me.

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Jack, you speaketh the truth... The world of Pentax hath been given its pride back and therefore Pentax people go with pride. Looketh down the Pentax man at his peers now. Thus spake Zarathustra... /broad smile here too/ Boris On 11/10/2010 1:07 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Feels, in a way, that

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
I think I made a mistake. It should be You speakest and not You speaketh. But that does not change a thing. Boris On 11/10/2010 1:07 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Feels, in a way, that Pentaxians have lost the humility. They've always been a little embarrassed and guarded about their chosen photo

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/9/2010 6:24 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: I understand your reasons but what amazes me a bit is how a sensor praised for almost everybody is bashed that hard in the following iteration...is just by comparison with the new generation sensors? It amazes me too, Jaume, because K-7's sensor has

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/9/2010 10:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I would not want to try to make a living as a mechanic. I've got several friends that have, and it's a rough business. I concur. Yes, there are crooked auto repair places out there, but it's a really rough industry to be in. My best friend from my

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/10/2010 11:27 AM, eckinator wrote: doesn't that make you a royalty groupie though? No, it does not. I do like to be as precise as possible in my addressing of people. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: I am just trying to understand how the opinion on it changes so dramatically in so little time. More people are ready to admit that it's no good. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: K-7 vs. K-5 at ISO 200

2010-11-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I spoke to Julia and she wasn't at all against the upgrade. So, I am taking my measures to get rid of K7 and acquire K5. *ph* Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:04 AM Subject: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 The K-7 offered huge

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread eckinator
2010/11/10 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: I'm a group of loners It is only appropriate then that from now on I shall address you in Your Groupness and respective and respectable Royal You. doesn't that make you a royalty groupie though? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-5 Buffer

2010-11-10 Thread eckinator
2010/11/10 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: Yeah, gasbags drive priuses. Speaking of which, they were going use Toyota Hybrid technology in Geos, unfortunately the company folded before they released the Priuprizm. guess they were a bit prizzy about their priurities... It really is a shame,

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Rob Studdert
2010/11/10 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: More people are ready to admit that it's no good. People being honest with themselves voiced their opions long ago. -- Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa:

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Does that mean that you screwed-upeth? On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I think I made a mistake. It should be You speakest and not You speaketh. But that does not change a thing. Boris On 11/10/2010 1:07 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Feels, in a way, that

Re: Large LCD?

2010-11-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Anything with the 3 inch 900K+ pixel screen will work.  The Olympus E-PL1 can be had for 600 with a

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Screwed-upest may be :-). Or screwest-uped ;-). On 11/10/2010 2:59 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Does that mean that you screwed-upeth? On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: I think I made a mistake. It should be You speakest and not You speaketh. But that

PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Scott Loveless
Oh, hi. Brian Walters has agreed to take over the PUG, starting with the January 2011 gallery. I think, for the immediate future, nothing major is going to change as far as sending photos to the gallery. During the next month or so I'll hand over the reigns. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Ed

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: During the next month or so I'll hand over the reigns. The king is dead. Long live the king! Thanks, Scott, for your hard work, and thanks, Brian, for stepping up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert wrote: 2010/11/10 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: More people are ready to admit that it's no good. People being honest with themselves voiced their opions long ago. Yep. I'm extremely happy with the Samsung sensor and can easily wait to upgrade. If I do, it'll be because of

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Thank you for your hard work, Scott... Welcome in, Brian /grin/. Boris On 11/10/2010 3:33 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Oh, hi. Brian Walters has agreed to take over the PUG, starting with the January 2011 gallery. I think, for the immediate future, nothing major is going to change as far as

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
I would go with third person verb, speaketh. Jack --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:23 AM I

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
MARK! --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: PESO: My Auto Guy To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 4:15 AM Miserere wrote: On 9 November 2010 20:57, eckinator

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
My unspokeneth thought as well. Jack --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 5:45 AM Rob Studdert

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread eckinator
2010/11/10 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: The king is dead.  Long live the king! let's make Queens and Kings the first theme then cheers ecke and thanks a bunch to scott for his formidable maintenance of the PUG - to those about to step down we salute you ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread P. J. Alling
On 11/10/2010 3:40 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/9/2010 10:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I would not want to try to make a living as a mechanic. I've got several friends that have, and it's a rough business. I concur. Yes, there are crooked auto repair places out there, but it's a really

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
Your support is enthusiastically welcomed, Boris! grin Jack --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010,

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Scott, for everything you have done for us in managing the PUG! Dan On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, hi. Brian Walters has agreed to take over the PUG, starting with the January 2011 gallery.  I think, for the immediate future, nothing

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Scott and we've gotta get a Synchronicity theme in there somewhere. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/10 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: The king is dead.  Long live the king! let's make Queens and Kings the first theme then

Re: PESO: Stairway to Heaven?

2010-11-10 Thread David J Brooks
Good title. Dave On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11924771 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions or Abuse Welcomed. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Mad props to Miserere from Ned Bunnell

2010-11-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, sorry guys; I'll try to wear a PDML cap next time I go to one of these things. But first somebody needs to send me one. I have 4 left from my batch i made up from the 2008 GFM weekend. Let me know if you want one.,

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:33:40 -0500 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, hi. Brian Walters has agreed to take over the PUG, starting with the January 2011 gallery. I think, for the immediate future, nothing major is going to change as far as sending photos to the gallery. During

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Yep. I'm extremely happy with the Samsung sensor and can easily wait to upgrade. If I do, it'll be because of the lower minimum ISO of 80 rather than the high ISO settings of the K-5. OK. Let's look at it on your terms:

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread David J Brooks
A lot of the smaller repair shops here were i am have signs like those. I don't think they felt guilty. In 2008, i bought $1100 worth of truck tires at a Firestone shop. He noticed one of my brake lights had burnt out. I said might as well throw a bulb in while i'm here. Charged me the $2.49 for

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread David J Brooks
Scoot. Thanks for the work you put in to keepin the PUG going. I'm sure Brian will do a great job. Dave On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, hi. Brian Walters has agreed to take over the PUG, starting with the January 2011 gallery.  I think, for

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Scott Loveless
Theme ideas so far: Faces, broadly interpreted. Cycle (We had cycle for 2010. Not that I can veto it, just sayin'.) Still Life found object/mis en place King/Queen Synchronicity -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/     __o   _'\,_  (*)/  (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Yep. I'm extremely happy with the Samsung sensor and can easily wait to upgrade. If I do, it'll be because of the lower minimum ISO of 80 rather than the high ISO settings of the K-5. OK. Let's look at

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
..followed by his pointing out the clearly posted ('prox 15 minutes earlier) sign assigning full responsibility to the customer should such an unlikely event occur. Jack --- On Wed, 11/10/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Book announcement

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
OK, following hot on the heels of Doug Brewer's How to Milk a Wooden Cow comes my own venture into Blurb book land. Yes, I did the Blue Ridge High Country book earlier this year, but that was thrown together quickly for as a benefit for a non-profit. This one is much more painstakingly crafted and

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Let's look at it on your terms: In a digital camera, I would argue that lower ISOs are *primarily* important for the maximum Dynamic Range that they provide. Not to me. OK. Can you expand on that? What is it about

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
That's the reason they make good sturdy tripods. Jack --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 7:16 AM

Re: Book announcement

2010-11-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/loire.htm Forbidden You don't have permission to access /loire.htm on this server. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread P N Stenquist
I'm surprised he doesn't have the Helen Waite sign. Actually, just charging for the bulb and not the labor is a good deal. Gotta cover the inventory cots, even if you're doing someone a favor. Most mechanics who remain in business for more than a couple of years are pretty honest. They

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread CheekyGeek
This is a bit of a ridiculous discussion, if we equate it to film days... Let's imagine a set of photographers (let's say they shoot for National Geographic) who swear by Kodachrome 25. If Kodak or a competitor came out with a film that gave them Results Indistinguishable from Kodachrome 25 - but

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 10, 2010, at 6:45 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: - Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: mié,10 noviembre, 2010 09:26 Asunto: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 On 11/9/2010 6:24 PM, Jaume Lahuerta

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Let's look at it on your terms: In a digital camera, I would argue that lower ISOs are *primarily* important for the maximum Dynamic Range that they provide. Not to me. OK. Can you expand on that?

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: OK. Can you expand on that? What is it about lower ISOs that make them primarily better to you? Longer shutter speeds. To be fair, Darren did write Lower ISO settings mean nothing by themselves,

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Can you expand on that? What is it about lower ISOs that make them primarily better to you? Longer shutter speeds. That's fine. ISO 100 to 80 is less than a 1/2 stop difference (if we compare the SETTINGS). If we

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Can you expand on that? What is it about lower ISOs that make them primarily better to you? Longer shutter speeds. That's fine. ISO 100 to 80 is less than a 1/2 stop difference (if we compare the

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:12 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: It also seems a bit silly to me to point to slower ISOs as a reason to buy a more expensive camera, when one can achieve the same effect with a ND filter at a fraction of the cost. Also, many types of long exposure shots

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread CheekyGeek
Theme suggestions off the top of my head (apologies if any of these have been used before): Rush Hour Life's Simple Pleasures Big Weather Underfoot Packing Heat A Fork in the Road The Ravages of Time Out of this World The Twilight Zone Bohemian Rhapsody Upon closer examination... Songs in the Key

Re: PESO - Sad Eyes

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent Frank.  Sharp and good colors.  Needs the title to guide the viewer;  I'm not sure I would have seen that without your hint. Yeah, I originally called it Sad Leaf, but thought that the new title might work

Re: PESO - Sad Eyes

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Fun!  Well seen, Frank.  Cheers, Christine Thanks, Christine! And thanks to everyone else who looked and commented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Why does it bother you so much that I like to work the way I like to work? I could care less about how you like to work. However I find your inability to adequately justify your stated positions in this particular

Re: PESO - Night Meat

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: A strete meat vendor in toronto after dusk http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/5160592576/ Larger/Direct http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/5160592576_c400fa84d3_o_d.jpg Pentax 6x7, SMC takumar 105/2.4, Tri-X 400 @EI 1600 I got

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Very nice, somebody's got to give Frank some competition. Dan's crema is much nicer than mine. Very nice shot, Dan! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob. Note that I have better crema! Much better. That will be my weekend challenge! Nice shot (as I said in response to Bob). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank! Dan On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Very nice, somebody's got to give Frank some competition. Dan's crema is much nicer than mine. Very nice

Re: PESO: Stairway to Heaven?

2010-11-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, David. Dan On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Good title. Dave On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11924771 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions or Abuse

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Why does it bother you so much that I like to work the way I like to work? I could care less about how you like to work. However I find your inability to adequately justify your stated positions in

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Can you expand on that? What is it about lower ISOs that make them primarily better to you? Longer shutter speeds. Suppose you have two hypothetical cameras: (a) Minimum ISO 80, dynamic range of 12 EV at minimum ISO

Re: Book announcement

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/10, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /loire.htm on this server. That's because you're over the border ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Book announcement

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 10/11/10, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /loire.htm on this server. That's because you're over the border ;-) That's because he's in Germany, major hacking attempts on my web site from there constantly. Ralf:

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Wow, some good ones there! On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:26 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Theme suggestions off the top of my head (apologies if any of these have been used before): Rush Hour Life's Simple Pleasures Big Weather Underfoot Packing Heat A Fork in the Road The

Re: K-5 autofocus observations

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
Yes, sometimes his jokes really grate on me.  yeah his sense of humor is somewhat abrasive He doesn't have a shred of decency. But you have to marvel at his ability to keep grinding this stuff out. I keep it all on tap. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax mirrorless in Spring !

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: - Put a nice, trim eye-level viewfinder IN the camera and clean ergonomics and shape. The Fuji X100's body and controls are a model of simple, attractive, easy to figure out, easy to remember design. If this had a Pentax name on it, I

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:26 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Theme suggestions off the top of my head (apologies if any of these have been used before): On a related note, the next Call for Themes has been scheduled for Fall 2014. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/10, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Brian Walters has agreed to take over the PUG Another thanks from me Scotty - you're a rock, mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Jack Davis
Allow me to jump on this just to make a couple low ISO points. Accomplishing the same thing with filters is inconvenient and has its pitfalls. Filters may well cause flare and two more surfaces for light to penetrate almost certainly results in some image degradation. Relegating same to

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:49:06AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Let's look at it on your terms: In a digital camera, I would argue that lower ISOs are *primarily* important for the maximum Dynamic

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: There are two reasons people run marathons: To compete (even against oneself and one's previous best time) To pretend to compete (to be able to tell friends I ran a marathon!) You forgot the third reason: To think about it for one nanosecond

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty does synchronized swimming? I can't imagine him in one of those cute little caps! Bob, if you're not careful I will come over there and put a bat up your nightdress. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:05PM +, Cotty wrote: On 9/11/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty does synchronized swimming? I can't imagine him in one of those cute little caps! Bob, if you're not careful I will come over there and put a bat up your nightdress.

Re: K-7 vs. K-5 at ISO 200

2010-11-10 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: mié,10 noviembre, 2010 08:15 Asunto: Re: K-7 vs. K-5 at ISO 200 I spoke to Julia and she wasn't at all against the upgrade. So, I am taking my measures to get rid of

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Thanks for your efforts in the PUG Scott. I suggest an architecture related theme. It has always resulted in populated and interesting galleries in the past. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/10, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:05PM +, Cotty wrote: On 9/11/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty does synchronized swimming? I can't imagine him in one of those cute little caps! Bob, if you're not careful I will come

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:49:06AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Let's look at it on your terms: In a digital camera, I would argue that lower ISOs are *primarily* important for

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:05PM +, Cotty wrote: On 9/11/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty does synchronized swimming? I can't imagine him in one of those cute little caps! Bob, if you're not careful I will come over there and put a bat up your

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 10/11/10, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:05PM +, Cotty wrote: On 9/11/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty does synchronized swimming? I can't imagine him in one of those cute little caps! Bob, if you're not

Re: Mad props to Miserere from Ned Bunnell

2010-11-10 Thread Miserere
On 10 November 2010 02:11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think there exists a way in which Ned can correct the spelling of your name in that blog entry of his? Boris I'm used to the misspelling; happens all the time. Blame my parents for giving me such a ridiculous name :-)

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Ken Waller
Scott, I appreciate your efforts - thanks a bunch. Now go out and shoot some world class images! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Subject: PUG changes and themes for 2011 Oh, hi. Brian

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: OK. Can you expand on that? What is it about lower ISOs that make them primarily better to you? Longer shutter speeds. That's fine. ISO 100 to

Re: Re: Film for landscape and for portraits

2010-11-10 Thread Jens
Thanks a lot Scott :-) Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 9, 2010 16:22 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: I have just ordered 10 roll og slidefilm for my new 67. I've read that Fuji

Re: Re: Film for landscape and for portraits

2010-11-10 Thread Jens
Thabk you all. I'll definaltely have to reconsider my choise of film before I order again. Thanks again. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 9, 2010 21:43 Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk

Way OT: Canon Dial 35

2010-11-10 Thread Jens
I allways think twice before buying anything Canon... But I happened to come across a nice Canon Dial 35. A very nice ande very special half frame film camera. I allso got it because of the famous photographer Jacob Holdt, who oublished the book American Images in 1977. The photographs in the

Re: PESO: Stairway to Heaven?

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11924771 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions or Abuse Welcomed. Terrific shot, Dan. I agree with everyone else: the high key rendering really works well here. Wonderful

Re: K-5 autofocus observations

2010-11-10 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Subject: Re: K-5 autofocus observations Yes, sometimes his jokes really grate on me. yeah his sense of humor is somewhat abrasive He doesn't have a shred of decency.

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: As I sat in this area waiting for my car, I got the feeling these signs were YELLING at me and were intended to intimidate. I think he's dealt with the public just a little too long. :( I had the camera and flash in the

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Because without the sanctioning body anyone could just say I ran a marathon in 2:10 yesterday Peh! I just ran one in 2:08 last week... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Book announcement

2010-11-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: OK, following hot on the heels of Doug Brewer's How to Milk a Wooden Cow comes my own venture into Blurb book land. Yes, I did the Blue Ridge High Country book earlier this year, but that was thrown together quickly for as a benefit for a

Re: PESO: My Auto Guy

2010-11-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 10, 2010, at 4:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Miserere wrote: On 9 November 2010 20:57, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: have you ever tried to pee without getting your scalpel dirty or hurting yourself? MARK! Know what the requirements are to be an orthopedic surgeon? You

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread paul stenquist
What Ken said. Thanks for your work on this, Scott. Paul On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Scott, I appreciate your efforts - thanks a bunch. Now go out and shoot some world class images! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message

Re: K-5 autofocus observations

2010-11-10 Thread eckinator
2010/11/10 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: Yes, sometimes his jokes really grate on me. yeah his sense of humor is somewhat abrasive He doesn't have a shred of decency. But you have to marvel at his ability to keep grinding this stuff out. I keep it all on tap. I wonder how much lager

Re: Film for landscape and for portraits

2010-11-10 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jens wrote: Thabk you all. I'll definaltely have to reconsider my choise of film before I order again. Thanks again. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 9, 2010 21:43 Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think the punsters need to go hijack this thread. We are slipping into extended dynamic rage. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm trying to make mine last. I'm doing a little bit every day until mid December. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:00 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Because without the sanctioning body anyone could just

Re: PUG changes and themes for 2011

2010-11-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice work Scott. I suggest fire hydrants. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:07 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: What Ken said. Thanks for your work on this, Scott. Paul On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Scott, I appreciate your efforts - thanks a bunch. Now go out

Re: Book announcement

2010-11-10 Thread eckinator
2010/11/10 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: That's because he's in Germany, major hacking attempts on my web site from there constantly. Ralf: I'll look at today's logs when they're available and open a hole in the .htaccess file so you can have a look. can you permanently allow

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-10 Thread eckinator
2010/11/10 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: I think the punsters need to go hijack this thread.  We are slipping into extended  dynamic rage. are you sure it is EDR and not just a flame mapped thread? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

K100D and K110D

2010-11-10 Thread Nick David Wright
If I understand correctly, the K100D and K110D are exactly the same camera save for the shake reduction. The imaging sensor and image processor are all the same, right? -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Way, way OT - crowds and events

2010-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Damn, I wasn't fast enough! Great minds ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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