Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: there has never been a male nude shown here (that I've seen in some thirteen years). I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here. Yeah but there's been a few dicks in the past. One thought nobody's mentioned: what about the models in nude

Re: PESO - Still Life in the Snow

2013-11-25 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We got a teeny bit of snow on the weekend. It's all but gone now, at least it is down here by the lake. More significantly we are having wintry temps now. It was around -10C this morning which is cold for Toronto in

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob W
On 25 Nov 2013, at 03:10, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Paul via phone On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:04 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We disagree on many issues, Paul. But you're always a gentleman. And a friend. Wrong. But a friend. That's all I aspire to.

PESO - First Night in Zion

2013-11-25 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/first-night-in-zion.html Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

SV: PESO - From Dante's viewpoint

2013-11-25 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Thanks for commenting; Bruce W., Christine, Attila, Rick, Don (and wife), Bob W., Ann and Paul. I'm very glad I bothered to drive up to Dante's Viewpoint. If any of you go to Death Valley in the future, make sure you get up there too. It's a perfect spot for watching the sunset, if nothing

Re: PESO - First Night in Zion

2013-11-25 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/first-night-in-zion.html Jostein I really like Kolob Canyons, good mistake:) Moonlight on Hidden Canyon is also very nice. The tree in the lower right seems to be brighter

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
knarf wrote: The Saskatchewan Roughriders (a football team, not a condom) That reminds me – there's only about a month to go before the 2013 quotations list will be revealed! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

SV: PESO - First Night in Zion

2013-11-25 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Fra: Attila Boros I really like Kolob Canyons, good mistake:) Moonlight on Hidden Canyon is also very nice. The tree in the lower right seems to be brighter than the rest, maybe from car lights? Umm... Actually that was caused by accidentally turning my headlamp on for a few seconds

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bill
On 25/11/2013 2:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: there has never been a male nude shown here (that I've seen in some thirteen years). I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here. Yeah but there's been a few dicks in the past. One thought nobody's

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
TA = Tonsillectomy with adenoidectomy. I have no idea why we're discussing it on PDML. (should I get out more?) Rick On Nov 24, 2013, at 23:47 , Boris Liberman wrote: Or, and I totally forgot to ask you - what TA means? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Still Life in the Snow

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
I really like this one, Frank. The composition is interesting and the BW rendering is perfect. Rick - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: PESO - Still Life in

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, It's a reference I first heard in connection with a Bill Fossie Broadway Theater production. The song suggested the customers wanted to see some TITS and ASS. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm really doing is expressing my

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Walt
There's also the not-so-minor consideration of the fact that, at least in my limited experience (albeit, all non-nude), women seem to be much more apt to agree to be photographed. The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's

Re: PESO - Monster Family

2013-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Does Richard take the formal shots and Rick the informal ones? Your NYC trip has been productive, maybe doubley so. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: A Halloween slice-of-life near Times Square:

Re: PESO Not too cold for him.

2013-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
:-) On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A church group of unknown denomination braved some cold November weather to offer their message. Good to see so many smiles. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17610280size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Yes, my team won, even though i am not from Sask. Dave On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:10 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Saskatchewan Roughriders (a football team, not a condom) just won the Gray Cup, emblematic of Canadian Football supremacy. Congratulations to the entire

Re: OT, the blue line?

2013-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Larry, The Blue line is a bit reworked from the old days. Today, the line runs from O'Hare, past Wrigley Field, thru Downtown, and out to Oak Park/Forest Park to the west. The Blue line may have been just the northern line before the extension to O'Hare. The line west was Green to my recollection.

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread Darren Addy
I don't know a lot about Canadian Football, but one would think they could come up with a proper trophy for the championship rather than simply awarding a protective cup, and a gray one at that. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:47 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, my team won, even

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread knarf
The Grey Cup (I spelled it wrong earlier) was presented to the Canadian football champion as a challenge cup 101 years ago by Albert, fourth Earl of Grey, then Governor General of the Dominion of Canada. The first game was played at Rosedale field about a block from where I used to live.

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
knarf wrote: The Grey Cup (I spelled it wrong earlier) was presented to the Canadian football champion as a challenge cup 101 years ago by Albert, fourth Earl of Grey Was it filled with tea? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - Staying WarmIt

2013-11-25 Thread John
On 11/24/2013 6:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Doh. Stay warm. I hate phones. Paul via phone On Nov 24, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It was 16 degrees F this morning -- about -9 Celsius. This guy found a spot to try to stay warn.

Re: 14 image presentation from class

2013-11-25 Thread John
On 11/24/2013 8:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 08:56:21PM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote: Ken, This was a master class on finding what inspires you to take photos. Sounds awesome. I wish I had the time to take classes and improve my photography. I'd be happy to start by having

RE: peso the courthouse steps

2013-11-25 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks to all that looked and commented like Dan,Chris,Ken, Bruce,Knarf,Attila, Brian. There was a question about the lens it was the Rokinon version 8mm. It seems well built and has a permanent lens hood. For any Olympus mirror-less users it works quite well and is less fishy due to

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread John
I think Paul had a point though. If YOU think it's a problem, YOU are the one who should do something about supplying a solution. On 11/25/2013 12:32 AM, knarf wrote: I don't have a hang up on nudity at all. I'm not offended by seeing naked bodies, either male or female. I also disagree with

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread John
I had a little old lady bring in one of those disposable cameras when I was running the photo-lab. It was all male nudes. She told me she was a painter had just come back from a trip to Europe. I guess it was an opportunity to find models she couldn't find locally (Raleigh not being as

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread John
I'm pretty sure I remember someone posting uncensored photos of Michaelangelo's David from a trip to Europe. I know it's not the same as male live models, but you gotta' go with what you got. On 11/25/2013 3:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/11/13, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: there

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread John
On 11/25/2013 11:41 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: knarf wrote: The Grey Cup (I spelled it wrong earlier) was presented to the Canadian football champion as a challenge cup 101 years ago by Albert, fourth Earl of Grey Was it filled with tea? It's not a Dixie Cup, and you don't want to be

Re: OT - Congratulations, William!

2013-11-25 Thread knarf
Earl Grey tea was a present to Albert's grandfather, the 2nd Earl Grey. It was prepared by a specialty tea shop for the rich and famous in London. I doubt any of it ever found it's way into the Grey Cup. Cheers, frank Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: knarf wrote: The Grey Cup (I

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread knarf
Because they're different. That could be an excuse for all manner of discriminatory practices... Cheers, frank Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: There's also the not-so-minor consideration of the fact that, at least in my limited experience (albeit, all non-nude), women seem to be much more apt

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread knarf
Maybe I will... However, in the meanwhile my solution is to not comment on female nudes until a more equitable ratio of female to male nudes is presented. As I said earlier, last thing I would do is tell anyone what they should or shouldn't photograph. Cheers, frank John

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Walt
Discriminatory practices aren't necessarily bad things, and I wouldn't want to live in a world in which no one discriminates. -- Walt On 11/25/2013 12:26 PM, knarf wrote: Because they're different. That could be an excuse for all manner of discriminatory practices... Cheers, frank Walt

How do you test your memory cards?

2013-11-25 Thread John Celio
Do any of you know of software for testing memory cards? I'm looking for something that can really put them through their paces to make sure they won't fail. I've got a pile o' SD memory cards going back to when I got the K10D in 2006. Most are much newer than that, but I want to test them all

Re: How do you test your memory cards?

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I don't know about card testing software, but here's a suggestion. Be sure to hard-format each card in the computer you will be unloading them with. I failed to do that with the new 32G card I got -- I just started using it as it came -- and it crapped out on me, losing me a handful of useful

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Attila Boros
First of all I have to thank Boris and Larry for clarifying the subject line. Frank please don't abbreviate when talking about male nudes, it doesn't do the subject justice g On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The catalyst for this little missive, I must

Re: How do you test your memory cards?

2013-11-25 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:39 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: Do any of you know of software for testing memory cards? I'm looking for something that can really put them through their paces to make sure they won't fail. Originally developed to detect fake cards, it can be

Re: How do you test your memory cards?

2013-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No idea how to test cards other than by using them or using a volume/file system testing application. But general wisdom is to always format your cards in the camera that's going to use them, not the computer that will be used to upload the files. I have a ton of old cards from 2004-2007

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here. Nor have you ever seen a vagina here. At least not that I can recall. i don't think we need to see either organ. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: How do you test your memory cards?

2013-11-25 Thread Richard Womer
Odd. I format them in the camera before use, but have never bothered to format them on the computer. No trouble. Rick On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I don't know about card testing software, but here's a suggestion. Be sure to hard-format each card in the computer you

Re: PESO - Monster Family

2013-11-25 Thread Richard Womer
Nothing so organized! The new Yahoo email interface is such a malodorous, fly-covered turd that I started using the Apple mail program. It used the name assigned to the system; and it took me a while to catch on and make things less formal again. Rick On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Bob

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote: The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different. ...and why do you think they're different? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Walt
On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote: The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different. ...and why do you think they're different? Because they're so easily

PESO - Evening Shift Snack

2013-11-25 Thread Richard Womer
Along the Avenue of the Americas: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17610339size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: How do you test your memory cards?

2013-11-25 Thread John Celio
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:39 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: Do any of you know of software for testing memory cards? I'm looking for something that can really put them through their paces to make

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote: The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different. ...and why do

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Larry Colen
There are several reasons. First of all there it's sociological conditioning. Then there is the case that the mix of emotion affecting hormones trends to skew differently in men than in women, otherwise folks who are transitioning wouldn't need to take hormones for their target gender. While it

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Larry Colen
Not really, equality of opportunity is not equity of outcome. I don't think that anyone here is turning models down because of their plumbing or sexual identity. Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM,

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread mike wilson
Frank, If you want me to read this without giggling you have to get rid of the sig. And, to be serious, you can objectify people without having them remove their clothes. I find the objectification of non-nude people (starving hordes, minorities, fat, thin, old, etc.) to be much more offensive

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob W
On 25 Nov 2013, at 13:45, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: TA = Tonsillectomy with adenoidectomy. I have no idea why we're discussing it on PDML. (should I get out more?) Rick Dunno, sounds deep and throaty enough already to me. B On Nov 24, 2013, at 23:47 , Boris Liberman

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob W
On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe I've ever seen a penis here. Nor have you ever seen a vagina here. At least not that I can recall. i don't think we need to see

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob W
On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:35, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote: The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated differently as

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 25 Nov 2013, at 19:35, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/25/2013 1:22 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Walt wrote: The question

OT PESO - For Frank

2013-11-25 Thread David Savage
G'day All, *NSFW (possibly) warning* http://500px.com/photo/53164966 D800, 50mm f1.4, f10 @ 1/160, ISO 100. Beauty dish slightly above models eye level camera left. I have some thoughts on Franks comments on the lack of objectified images of men that I'll get to in the morning. Cheers, Dave

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread knarf
And I'll say it again: I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance. I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear here. It just doesn't seem fair, dammit! Cheers, frank Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:02

FS - two like-new K-5

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
[I know it's not a Friday, sorry.] I'm posting this for a net acquaintance: Don Neal says: I have 2 K-5 bodies for sale - little use - purchased body #2 as an insurance policy for a large project. Both come in boxes with all accessories - would like $1100.00 for the pair or $600.00 for a

Re: OT PESO - For Frank

2013-11-25 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:34 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, *NSFW (possibly) warning* http://500px.com/photo/53164966 D800, 50mm f1.4, f10 @ 1/160, ISO 100. Beauty dish slightly above models eye level camera left. That's very nice lighting and a beautiful model.

Re: OT PESO - For Frank

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Excellent lighting, model and nicely toned bw too, Dave. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, *NSFW (possibly) warning* http://500px.com/photo/53164966 D800, 50mm f1.4, f10 @ 1/160, ISO 100. Beauty dish slightly above models eye level camera

K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi all, Picked up my K3 from the shop today, but had to use it almost right away without much time to get everything perfect. Did most of the required settings, but blundered with the RAW. It was set to PEF instead of my prefered DNG ... So I ended up with about 40 PEF's that my LR 4.4 or CS

Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Alastair Robertson
did you try the latest version of Adobe's DNG converter (8.2) http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5646 I am not sure it will cope with K3's PEF format but worth a try? Alastair On 26 November 2013 10:00, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote: Hi all, Picked up my K3 from

December PUG Countdown

2013-11-25 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all Only a few days left to submit for the December PUG. So far zero, nil, nada submissions. (well, there is one, but that's mine so it doesn't count...) Theme: Chaos Nom. closing date 30 Nov Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here:

Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Dario Bonazza
I can se two options: 1) Install Pentax Camera Utility 5.0 and see if it has such PEF-DNG conversion feature. 2) Wait for next Adobe DNG converter including K-3 PEF's as recognizable files and do the conversion. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Jan van Wijk Sent: Monday, November

Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Dario Bonazza
se = see In the mean time, you can do the in-camera PEF-to-JPG conversion and use the JPG files. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Dario Bonazza Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion. I can se two options: 1)

Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Alastair Robertson
this thread suggests that the Camera Utility from silkypix that came with the K3 can do the conversion http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom_5_3_rc_can_you_add_camera_support_for_new_pentax_k_3_to_this_update Alastair On 26 November 2013 10:24, Dario Bonazza

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/11/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: The question seems to boil down to why women and men are treated differently as photographic subjects. Well, it's because they're different. Walt, I love you man. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/11/13, Attila Boros, discombobulated, unleashed: That's where I disagree. That photo would accentuate the sexual aspects of their personality without telling much about the other aspects. But isn't that the point of the genre? It wouldn't take away anything. I don't expect to see a photo of

Re: December PUG Countdown

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
Hmmm. Nothing comes to mind yet. But with 20 people (four our whom are under the age of 8) coming here for Thanksgiving there should be plenty of chaos. Maybe I'll get something then. :] -p On 11/25/2013 3:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Only a few days left to submit for the

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
knarf wrote: And I'll say it again: I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance. I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear here. It just doesn't seem fair, dammit! How this balance be achieved? Surely we can't ask people who have no

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/11/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: How this balance be achieved? Surely we can't ask people who have no interest in a particular kind of photography (male nudes) to take up that kind of photography? Selfies! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O)

Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Dario, On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:28:19 +0100 Dario Bonazza wrote: In the mean time, you can do the in-camera PEF-to-JPG conversion and use the JPG files. Of course, why did I not think of that! The images are not that important, quality wise, some family-meeting shots, so JPG's are fine!

Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.

2013-11-25 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Alistair, On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:29:04 +1300 Alastair Robertson wrote: this thread suggests that the Camera Utility from silkypix that came with the K3 can do the conversion

RE: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts knarf wrote: And I'll say it again: I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance. I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear here. It just doesn't seem fair,

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread DagT
25. nov. 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: knarf wrote: And I'll say it again: I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance. I'm not planning on counting but the way it is now only naked women appear here. It just doesn't seem fair,

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Dario Bonazza
DagT wrote: So men will prefer to take pictures of women. Maybe the women should get better at photographing men, but of course we are not as interesting... My reply: This thread shines for the missing contribution of the PDML gals... Let's put it this way: Girl, if one day you'll agree to

RE: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT 25. nov. 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: knarf wrote: And I'll say it again: I am not saying there needs to be equality. Just a bit of balance. I'm not

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
As I said earlier in the thread, most of the female photogs that I know who shoot nudes prefer to shoot women. The last larger nude mixed exhibition that I visited had probably 50/50 male/female photogs and most of the images on the wall were of females, there were a few male nude shots, mostly by

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
As the named precipitator of this thread I better weigh in before the puns start in earnest. :-) First I must say I'm _quite_ relieved that your issue is of a general nature rather than being something I'm specifically doing. I was beginning to fear I was offending you with frequent depictions of

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The simple solution: shoot some male nudes and post them, Oh, a chance for a selfie. Dave I would think that someone who fervently believes there should be balance would strive to make that happen rather than merely

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I will note that as I understand it, Bruce's nudes were women who specifically asked him to photograph them, not women that he solicited to be nude models. I'm willing to bet that he has never turned down a nude model

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 06:21:50PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: My own preferences are to shoot women. I understand much better what makes interesting-to-me shots of a woman (clothed or un) whereas I have very little clue what would make an interesting-to-me male shot. I honestly just haven't

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: I respect your position and having equality also in this regard would be good (at least for the ladies on the list g), I disagree with that, as I doubt they'd be interested in male nudes any more than female nudes and

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Good gawd no, Larry. You only do that for sheer comedy. Here's what happens when you pose men like women: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/alicia-mariah-elfving-ducati-dealership Try to view that with a straight face. I dare you! ;-) More seriously: watch how the pros pose men vs

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:37 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I agree with Mark. MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread John
Frank et al, I was trying to avoid jumping in, but how do you define equality. Is it necessary to count before allowing a picture to be shown? Or is it necessary to provide some limit on any picture. Can we submit male dog pictures without female subjects for ?balance. This is and has

PESO - Jesse and Moto (nsfw)

2013-11-25 Thread knarf
Balance. I didn't think I had any male nudes but then I remembered I go to messenger parties once in a while: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/jesse-and-moto.html?m=1 Not terribly artistic but hey, it's a naked guy. ;-) Comments? If you must. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: As the named precipitator of this thread I better weigh in before the puns start in earnest. :-) First I must say I'm _quite_ relieved that your issue is of a general nature rather than being something I'm specifically

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:04:09PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Good gawd no, Larry. You only do that for sheer comedy. Here's what happens when you pose men like women: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/alicia-mariah-elfving-ducati-dealership Try to view that with a straight face. I

Re: PESO - Jesse and Moto (nsfw)

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well there you go. That one makes up for a lot of tasteful female nudes. On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:23 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Balance. I didn't think I had any male nudes but then I remembered I go to messenger parties once in a while:

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:04:09PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Good gawd no, Larry. You only do that for sheer comedy. Here's what happens when you pose men like women:

Re: PESO - Jesse and Moto (nsfw)

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I think I'll be safe posting a _lot_ more female nudity now. :-) On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Well there you go. That one makes up for a lot of tasteful female nudes. On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:23 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: PESO - Jesse and Moto (nsfw)

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
This is one instance where even more grain and less sharpness would be quite acceptable -- desirable even. ;-) It's actually pretty amusing and gives me new respect for your ability to get invited to really happening parties. Nobody ever gets naked at any parties _I'm_ invited to. On Mon, Nov

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
long thread. by popular demand: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/well-hung-4740.jpg interested in expression, gesture. nudes too artificial. Godfrey — flickr: http;//www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yeah: then there's the issue of the PDML list itself. I could be mistaken, but I find I get a pretty lukewarm reception to images of

Re: PESO - Golden Bridge (not Golden Gate!) -- Revised

2013-11-25 Thread Igor Roshchin
I reworked the contrast and the levels (black) a bit, and possibly played with sharpening (although I think that remained almost the same). Here is the reloaded version: http://42graphy.org/misc/_IR09639.jpg That seems to have made it looking more crisp. Here is the previous version:

Good news Bad news... help needed regarding the bad news

2013-11-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Good news - Remember that plant I had that flowered on my birthday?well it is flowering again! But the bad news is Thunderbird stopped working today - that is, I can't log in to my email . Road Runner help said it had to be reconfigured - but the tech didnt know how.. so I when to

Re: TA

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:04:09PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Good gawd no, Larry. You only do that for sheer comedy. Here's what happens when you pose men like women:

Re: PESO - Evening Shift Snack

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
It's a nice little slice of street life shot, Rick. I like the light and the composition a lot. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Along the Avenue of the Americas: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17610339size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments?

Re: PESO - Still Life in the Snow

2013-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I do like that, Frank. Just the right amount of snow in the air to be nicely seen but not obscure the foreground. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:44 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We got a teeny bit of snow on the weekend. It's all but gone now, at least it is down here by the lake.

DXO does the K3....was..Fwd: Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF

2013-11-25 Thread Bill
I love it when I'm prescient. http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Pentax-K-3-versus-Pentax-K-5-IIs-versus-Pentax-K7___914_830_615 The K3 tests out at 13.4 stops of dynamic range, compared to the K5 at 14.1. By comparison, the K7 is 10.6. Interestingly, the K3 measures very

Re: PESO - Evening Shift Snack

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Bruce! Rick On Nov 25, 2013, at 20:21 , Bruce Walker wrote: It's a nice little slice of street life shot, Rick. I like the light and the composition a lot. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Richard Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Along the Avenue of the Americas:

Re: PESO - Golden Bridge (not Golden Gate!) -- Revised

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
It looks to me as though making the sky blacker is the key difference. It works a lot better. Very nice shot! Rick On Nov 25, 2013, at 20:12 , Igor Roshchin wrote: I reworked the contrast and the levels (black) a bit, and possibly played with sharpening (although I think that remained

PESO: Bicycle racers from a couple of years ago

2013-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
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