Hi David
What didn't your friend like about the Nikon scanner? Which
Nikon scanner(s) did he use? What did he like better about
the Minolta?
I've got no problem with huge files the bigger the
better, IMO, as long as I can make small files for
cataloging or proofs as well.
shel
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What didn't your friend like about the Nikon scanner? Which
Nikon scanner(s) did he use? What did he like better about
the Minolta?
Shel,
Each brand has its detractors and within each brand, a few junkers make it
out the door. It's safest to buy new
Hi Mark ...
I got another computer, lotsa memory, faster processor, two
hard drives, and I replaced the mouse on the email machine.
;-)) I'll add a little more memory to the new machine, and
I should be fine.
shel
Mark Dalal wrote:
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What didn't your
Butch Black wrote:
The
problem with the Ilford film is that it is nearly impossible to get a
neutral BW printing on color paper and any exposure change brings a major
shift in color. I believe Ilfords philosophy behind that was that you
proof
in color but your final print should be printed
On Mar 21, 2004, at 01:29, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
What didn't your friend like about the Nikon scanner? Which
Nikon scanner(s) did he use? What did he like better about
the Minolta?
To be honest I don't remember. The models he looked at would have been
4000ppi, available new maybe 6 months
- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan
Subject: Re: Re[2]: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
I think it works if it digital ice is C41 BW films.
C-41 black and white is an oxymoron.
By definition, all C-41 films are colour films.
Hence the term chromogenic.
And yes, it works fine
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Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
Thanks, Tiger ...
Ice is not that important to me, although I've seen it in
action on some color scans and it's a nice feature to have.
What's an interface card?
shel
Tiger Moses
The Firewire interface card came with my 4000ED when I bought it about a
year ago.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
The Nikon 4000ED is a SCSI or Firewire scanner, so you need an interface
card
Absolutely ... while not strictly a financial investment,
it's a tool, one that should give years of good service.
It's an investment just as my automotive tools are an
investment, enabling me to work creatively and efficiently,
to derive pleasure from my work, and to save time and money
by not
card came with my 4000ED when I bought it about a
year ago.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
The Nikon 4000ED is a SCSI or Firewire scanner, so you need an interface
card if your system
: 19/03/04 03:42:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
If I am correct, Minolta 5400 is cheaper than Nikon 4000. However, you need
Vuescan to obtain good negatives scans. For E6 scans, the original Minolta
software
- Original Message -
From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Chromogenic BW (Was:: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner)
Well, actually, if you want a good BW image from color film you
need to use a
panchromatic enlarging paper like Panalure. Traditional BW papers
do not give
proper response
- Original Message -
From: Mike Ignatiev
Subject: Re[2]: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
scanner as an investment? i suppose you invest in pc's as well? :)
If you plan to keep it and use it for a while, then it's not a bad
idea.
William Robb
your memory is going. it's a Firewire-only scanner. older models were
SCSI-only.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
The Nikon 4000ED is a SCSI
Graywolf wrote:
Now, Bill Robb's statement that chromogenic BW does not worked well with
variable contrast papers does not match my experiences. However, I have not
used
the current generation chromogenic BW's. My own experience is limited to
the
old XP1 film, usually developed in XP1 developer,
Butch Black wrote:
The
problem with the Ilford film is that it is nearly impossible to get a
neutral BW printing on color paper and any exposure change brings a major
shift in color. I believe Ilfords philosophy behind that was that you proof
in color but your final print should be printed with
greatly simplifies cleaning slides, and I'd
recommend it. Of course the new Nikon Coolscan V is probably equivalent now at half
the price.
Nick
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18/03/04 09:45:13
To: PDML[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Almost
Hi Nick In what way was the Minolta rubbish? Have
you scanned BW negs with either?
Nick Clark wrote:
I've been usin a Nikon LS4000 ED scanner for morethan a year nw and would definitely
recommend it. I started with a Nikon Coolscan II (good), upgraded to a Minolta
Dual Scan II
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Nick In what way was the Minolta rubbish? Have
you scanned BW negs with either?
I also used CoolScan 4000 for almost 2 years, and Minolta Scan Multi II
for a few months. I might have had a defective unit, but Minolta
Shel,
The two top brands for home users in my opinion are the Minolta Dimage
series and the Nikons.
I've owned both. They both have nice twain interfaces, and both have option
that includes interface cards.
You want something faster than USB 1.0, becuase a hi-res scan can produce
30+ megabyte
-
From: Shel Belinkoff[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18/03/04 14:40:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
Hi Nick In what way was the Minolta rubbish? Have
you scanned BW negs with either?
Nick Clark wrote
I have once scanned BW with the nikon but not to very good effect. However the
negative was very thin as I'd used some old chemicals to process it, something I don't
do very often as I almost exclusively use Fuji Velvia or Sensia 200 slide film.
Best get the answer to this one from someone more
.
mishka
-Original Message-
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:16:19 -
Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
I have once scanned BW with the nikon but not to very good effect. However the
negative was very thin as I'd used some
- Original Message -
From: Mike Ignatiev
Subject: Re[2]: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
i scanned a few rolls of BW (some tmax100, some trix, some really
old svema) on the nikon --
apart from the fact that ice is not working with it, i couldn't see
anything to complain about.
just
Hi,
Thursday, March 18, 2004, 9:45:13 AM, Shel wrote:
I'm working on a long term project to scan years worth of
BW negatives and also plan to use the scanner for E6
transparencies, and, to a lesser extent, color neg. I also
intend to make larger than 8x10 prints and feel that the
largest
Traditional BW film. It should work with Chromogenic BW. But then
Bill doesn't
like Chromogenic BW.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Mike Ignatiev
Subject: Re[2]: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
i scanned a few rolls of BW (some tmax100, some trix, some really
- Original Message -
From: Peter J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: Almost ready to by a scanner
Traditional BW film. It should work with Chromogenic BW. But
then
Bill doesn't
like Chromogenic BW.
It works fine with chromogenics, which are, in reality, colour
negative film.
I actually
this has probably been discussed to death before, but
what's the reason to use chromogenic bw? if you take a color
negative film, and print on bw paper, wouldn't it give you the
same result? am i missing something very basic here?
best,
mishka
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling
C-41 Minilab 1hr capable!
At 10:45 PM 3/18/2004 +0300, you wrote:
this has probably been discussed to death before, but
what's the reason to use chromogenic bw? if you take a color
negative film, and print on bw paper, wouldn't it give you the
same result? am i missing something very basic here?
Stupidly wide exposure latitude.
Tiger Moses wrote:
C-41 Minilab 1hr capable!
At 10:45 PM 3/18/2004 +0300, you wrote:
this has probably been discussed to death before, but
what's the reason to use chromogenic bw? if you take a color
negative film, and print on bw paper, wouldn't it give you
The opposite seems true too. When you print chromogenic negs on colour
paper the contrast is completely different to BW papers. I tried using
chromogenics because I could get it developed and proofed (6x4s) in any
minilab in an afternoon, but the contrast problem made the proof useless
and I ended
At 10:45 PM 3/18/2004 +0300, you wrote:
this has probably been discussed to death before, but
what's the reason to use chromogenic bw? if you take a color
negative film, and print on bw paper, wouldn't it give you the
same result? am i missing something very basic here?
best,
mishka
The masking
Someone (sorry, I lost track of who) asked:
this has probably been discussed to death before, but
what's the reason to use chromogenic bw? if you take a color
negative film, and print on bw paper, wouldn't it give you the
same result? am i missing something very basic here?
Yes --
If I am correct, Minolta 5400 is cheaper than Nikon 4000. However, you need
Vuescan to obtain good negatives scans. For E6 scans, the original Minolta
software will do.
Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
My choice of the Nikon is based on it being the only scanner
I've used
I think it works if it is C41 BW films.
Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Digital Ice doesn't work with black and white film.
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