Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-06 Thread Chris Mitchell
Great gallery Christine. And what perfect timing for John and Jan's trip to Chicago! Chris On 5 Nov 2016 06:19, "Christine Aguila" wrote: > Hi All: > > I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, > and the Coyles are absolutely lovely. Here’s

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-06 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Christine! I regret that I was never in the right place, right time to be able to link up with the Coyle's. Chicago was on my radar but our prior travel plans took precedence. Your gallery gives me a nice flavor of their visit. Thanks. Stan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 5, 2016, at 7:18

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread P.J. Alling
Wow, there's a lot of distortion on that lens... http://caguilaphotography.com/coylecubs/content/_IMG8348_large.html On 11/5/2016 2:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi All: I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, and the Coyles are absolutely lovely. Here’s a

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread Ken Waller
- Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" <christ...@caguila.com> Subject: Re: Chicago PDML meetup Hi All: I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, and the Coyles are absolutely lovely. Here’s a small gallery of the scene on Michigan Ave

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Christine - great gallery! Glad you got there early to shoot the celebration...( I watched the nail biting 7th game except for a little bit of 10th when I dozed offduring the rain delay but awoke in time for the winning play...) cant say i wish i had been there as I truly couldnt take the

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a fine gallery, Christine! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Hi All: > > I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, > and the Coyles are absolutely

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. A handsome couple. Paul via phone > On Nov 5, 2016, at 2:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > > Hi All: > > I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, and > the Coyles are absolutely lovely. Here’s a small gallery of the scene on >

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/11/16, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hi All: > >I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, >and the Coyles are absolutely lovely. Here's a small gallery of the >scene on Michigan Ave., which was flooded with Cubs fans. I got >downtown a bit

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-05 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi All: I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle! Really super time, and the Coyles are absolutely lovely. Here’s a small gallery of the scene on Michigan Ave., which was flooded with Cubs fans. I got downtown a bit early to get some quick shots before meeting the Coyles. Once we

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread ann sanfedele
last night would have been a good time... ann On 11/3/2016 7:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Paul in MKE wrote: You could always load everyone up in Bob's van and take a side trip to Milwaukee. :-) Better yet, Cleveland. There's never a good time to go to Cleveland.

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: > >>Paul in MKE wrote: >>> You could always load everyone up in Bob's van and take a side trip to >>> Milwaukee. :-) >> >>Better yet, Cleveland. > > There's never a good time to go to Cleveland.

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread Larry Colen
Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Paul in MKE wrote: You could always load everyone up in Bob's van and take a side trip to Milwaukee. :-) Better yet, Cleveland. There's never a good time to go to Cleveland. I dunno, the Cubs seemed to do pretty well there yesterday. -- Larry

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >Paul in MKE wrote: >> You could always load everyone up in Bob's van and take a side trip to >> Milwaukee. :-) > >Better yet, Cleveland. There's never a good time to go to Cleveland. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread jcoyle
Sorry to have been incommunicado, I had to switch phones off at the Frank Lloyd Wright Museum, where we spent most of the day there and in the Forest Avenue area!Christine and I just spoke, and it's confirmed we will meet on the Michigan Avenue side steps of the Art Institute tomorrow at 1.30 pm,

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread Larry Colen
Paul in MKE wrote: You could always load everyone up in Bob's van and take a side trip to Milwaukee. :-) Better yet, Cleveland. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi John: I just tried to call you and Jan, but neither phone answered. We have some challenges for tomorrow—though they could be very fun challenges. As Bob states below we have a major parade scheduled for tomorrow. We need to touch base ASAP to make arrangements. Please call my mobile

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread Paul in MKE
You could always load everyone up in Bob's van and take a side trip to Milwaukee. :-) -p On 11/3/2016 12:15 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, After a 108 year drought, the Chicago Cubs baseball team won the world series last night (early this AM, actually). They just announced the parade for the

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
John, After a 108 year drought, the Chicago Cubs baseball team won the world series last night (early this AM, actually). They just announced the parade for the winners will be Friday... You and 500,000+ Cubs baseball team fans will be in the city center to cheer the winners. We might need to make

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-01 Thread Christine Aguila
John: Call me Thursday after 3:00 p.m. We can touch base and firm up our Friday plans. I can meet you at the Art Institute at 1 p.m. on Friday. Looking forward to meeting you guys. Cheers, Christine > On Nov 1, 2016, at 9:57 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: > > Thanks for the quick

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-01 Thread jcoyle
 Thanks for the quick response Christine, and Jan and I will be more than happy to follow that plan, and if 1.00 pm is good for everyone we'll make that the time to meet. John in St. Louis - and having a great time! - Original Message - From: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" To:"PDML List"

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-01 Thread ann sanfedele
John I'm not there but I'm forwarding this to Christine's email that I have and I'll message her on facebook too.. Be sure and see the THORNE ROOMS at the Art Museum. Been thinking about you... wanted to mention that you train to LA will pass through the general neghborhood Dan has recently

Re: Chicago PDML meetup

2016-11-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi John: We were thinking of the stuff below. If you want to do something different, just let me know. Cheers, Christine >>> 1) at 1 or 2 p.m. meet at the steps of the Art Institute >>>

Re: Chicago PDML Meetup

2016-09-22 Thread Paul
: Friday, 23 September 2016 10:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: Chicago PDML Meetup This sounds like fun, John! What's the name of the hotel you're staying at? Christine Aguila, Asst. Professor Communications Dept. Truman College FC4 President On Sep 22, 2016, a

RE: Chicago PDML Meetup

2016-09-22 Thread John Coyle
of the rich experience! Regards John -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: Friday, 23 September 2016 10:27 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: Chicago PDML Meetup This sounds like fun, John!

Re: Chicago PDML Meetup

2016-09-22 Thread Christine Aguila
This sounds like fun, John! What's the name of the hotel you're staying at? Christine Aguila, Asst. Professor Communications Dept. Truman College FC4 President > On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:26 AM, John Coyle wrote: > > Jan and I will be in Chicago the 3-4th. of November: can I

Re: Chicago PDML Meet Up

2014-10-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/10/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: The city or my house? :-). BOTH!!! ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Chicago PDML Meet Up

2014-10-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve, You ( family) get to Chicago and we'll show you the sites. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/10/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: The city or my house? :-). BOTH!!! ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: Chicago PDML Meet Up

2014-10-27 Thread David J Brooks
nice photos, i always knew ghosts were in my beers. Dave On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Well, Bob Sullivan, Mark Roberts, and I met up today and had a great chatty morning and lunch. We went to the Art Institute and had a pub lunch. Not too

Re: Chicago PDML Meet Up

2014-10-27 Thread Bob W-PDML
There's a Hoover joke in there somewhere. On 27 Oct 2014, at 11:00, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/10/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: The city or my house? :-). BOTH!!! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Chicago PDML Meet Up

2014-10-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/10/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, Bob Sullivan, Mark Roberts, and I met up today and had a great chatty morning and lunch. We went to the Art Institute and had a pub lunch. Not too many pictures were taken, though there's a photo of Mark enjoying a Picasso and a

Re: Chicago PDML Meet Up

2014-10-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Sent from my iPad On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 25/10/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, Bob Sullivan, Mark Roberts, and I met up today and had a great chatty morning and lunch. We went to the Art Institute and had a pub

Re: Chicago next weekend

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark Christine, This weekend works for me (24-26 Oct.). What's the plan? Bob Sullivan ...my son Bill isn't interested :-) On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I'll be in Chacago next weekend (24-16 October). Anyone up for a meet-up (Christine? Bill

Re: Chicago next weekend

2014-10-19 Thread Christine Aguila
I'm in. Friday might work. Did you have anything in particular in mind? Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I'll be in Chacago next weekend (24-16 October). Anyone up for a meet-up (Christine? Bill Sullivan?)

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Larry Colen
On May 26, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/index.html I grouped the photos into several separate galleries. Notably the PDMLers is the biggest one. If you see a picture (of yours) that you'd like to have

RE: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Bob W
http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/index.html Excellent work Boris - particularly the people ones. You've captured the PDMLers well. Chris I agree, but next time Boris try and find some good-looking PDMLers to photograph. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/27/2010 9:45 AM, Bob W wrote: I agree, but next time Boris try and find some good-looking PDMLers to photograph. Bob Well, it is your fault, Bob. After all, you were on the other side of the Big Pond at the time I was taking my pictures... ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Larry Colen
On May 26, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Bob W wrote: http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/index.html Excellent work Boris - particularly the people ones. You've captured the PDMLers well. Chris I agree, but next time Boris try and find some good-looking PDMLers to photograph.

RE: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Bob W
http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/index.html Excellent work Boris - particularly the people ones. You've captured the PDMLers well. Chris I agree, but next time Boris try and find some good-looking PDMLers to photograph. Besides Anne, Christine,

re: Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

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Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Larry Colen
On May 27, 2010, at 12:27 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote: DA* 55/1.4 is optically better than FA 50/1.4, sharper especially full open - f1.4 + SDM + price tag I don't know why, but I seem to have far more problems than I should getting sharp shots with my pfa 50/1.4 On the other hand, if I'm

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/27/2010 12:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 5/26/2010 11:43 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: So...what is your opinion about the DA* 55/1.4? Thanks, Jaume It is normal ;-). Boris No. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}}

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/27/2010 2:45 AM, Bob W wrote: http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/index.html Excellent work Boris - particularly the people ones. You've captured the PDMLers well. Chris I agree, but next time Boris try and find some good-looking PDMLers to photograph. Bob

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent set, Boris. PDML gallery is great fun. Excellent work there. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:37 PM Subject: Chicago GESOs by Boris Hi!

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Not very considerate of me to forget, but still. Very special thanks goes to Bob who generously allowed me to use his DA 16-45 lens that proved most useful this time. Other shots were made with DA 21, A 50/1.2 and DA* 55/1.4 that I was allowed to play with for a short time. -- Boris -- PDML

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-26 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
So...what is your opinion about the DA* 55/1.4? Thanks, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Enviado: mié,26 mayo, 2010 19:40 Asunto: Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris Not very considerate of me to forget, but still

Re: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-26 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/26/2010 11:43 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: So...what is your opinion about the DA* 55/1.4? Thanks, Jaume It is normal ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

RE: Chicago GESOs by Boris

2010-05-26 Thread Chris Mitchell
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/index.html I grouped the photos into several separate galleries. Notably the PDMLers is the biggest one. If you see a picture (of yours) that you'd like to have removed, please let me know off-list. CC welcome.

Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs

2010-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Boy, am I glad you posted these again, Christine... all of my mail from about May 13th and earlier is hiding somewhere on my c drive... so I'm replying to this to keep all the links... I still might add a couple more to my GESO but maybe not for a while -- it won't affect the link at all.

Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs

2010-05-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Christine, after I managed to produce a .wmv file I deleted the .exe... Also I am working on a set of GESOs from the trip which I will publish later on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs

2010-05-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Ok, I'll update when you post your next geso. cheers, christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs Christine, after I managed to produce

Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs

2010-05-22 Thread Larry Colen
, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs Christine, after I managed to produce a .wmv file I deleted the .exe... Also I am working on a set of GESOs from the trip which I will publish later on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Chicago GESO

2010-05-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/index.html As my friend Barb's parrot would say Good stuff I particularly like this one http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/7da01858.html late getting to these... I blame Netscape xo, ann -- PDML

RE: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Bob W
IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the viewer/recipient/?. Art is a collaboration between the artist, the work, and the viewer. Both humans must be

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 4:17 AM, Bob W wrote: IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the viewer/recipient/?. Art is a collaboration between the artist, the work, and the

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the arguments of the ones that are trying to define it ;-) True. BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases and not use it for their intended purpose misses the point. The original makers

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them.  To display shaker furniture in glass cases and

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-05-19 0:59, Larry Colen wrote: Following the advice of Strunk White to get rid of any unnecessary words, that sentence should read: One cannot reasonably define art. I find that art is easy to define. What I find difficult is to get two or more people to agree on a definition. :-)

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases and not use it for their intended

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Chicago On 5/18/2010 11:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernandofer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: Chicago On May 18, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-05-18 19:44, Fernando wrote: Regarding photography, these are my problems

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Chicago On 19/05/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm not really going out to take

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote: If it ain't framed, it ain't art. That's gonna bum out a lot of sculptors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 12:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Ken Waller wrote: If it ain't framed, it ain't art. That's gonna bum out a lot of sculptors. I suppose you could always put a frame around a sculpture. Make a statement... --

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: Chicago Ken Waller wrote: If it ain't framed, it ain't art. That's gonna bum out a lot of sculptors. Not my fault they picked the wrong

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-05-19 4:17, Bob W wrote: That would exclude a great deal of work, such as the Lascaux cave paintings and Shaker furniture, that is now generally considered to be art, for whatever reason, but which could not possibly have been produced with such a collaboration in mind. I'm not

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling On 5/19/2010 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases and not use

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Ken Waller From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com On 5/18/2010 11:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernandofer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread Larry Colen
On 5/19/2010 3:45 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling On 5/19/2010 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I think he'd laugh all the way to the bank. Near the end of his life he'd scrawl a couple of lines on a napkin, sign it and

Re: Chicago

2010-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/19/2010 6:45 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling On 5/19/2010 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display

RE: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Bob W
:09 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 9:19 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Chicago Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. When Tom and I were driving to the hotel on Thursday

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Chicago Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. When Tom and I were driving to the hotel on Thursday, a station wagon being driven

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-18 09:05 , P. J. Alling wrote: Then it's not really art, it's craft. another problem with requiring intent is how does the viewer know about the intent ... is it always obvious? is any intent sufficient? must one meet or learn about the artist as well as experience the art? what

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/18/2010 2:55 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-18 09:05 , P. J. Alling wrote: Then it's not really art, it's craft. another problem with requiring intent is how does the viewer know about the intent ... is it always obvious? is any intent sufficient? must one meet or learn about the

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Tom C
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: another problem with requiring intent is how does the viewer know about the intent ... is it always obvious? is any intent sufficient? must one meet or learn about the artist as well as experience the art? what if we

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread eckinator
2010/5/18 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: another problem with requiring intent is how does the viewer know about the intent ... is it always obvious? is any intent sufficient? must one meet or learn about the artist as well

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Fernando
Regarding photography, these are my problems defining art exclusively by intent: +When I take a photo I always have the intention of creating an image, the same goes when my grandmother takes a photo. Does this fact declare as artists? If that intention is not good then what intention/s define

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-05-18 19:44, Fernando wrote: Regarding photography, these are my problems defining art exclusively by intent: IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the viewer/recipient/?.  Art is a

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Fernando
Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the arguments of the ones that are trying to define it ;-) On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:29 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Doug Franklin

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the arguments of the ones that are trying to define it ;-) True. BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm not really going out to

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/18/2010 11:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernandofer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the arguments of the ones that are trying to define it ;-) True.

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Larry Colen
On May 18, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-05-18 19:44, Fernando wrote: Regarding photography, these are my problems defining art exclusively by intent: IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than

Re: Chicago

2010-05-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19/05/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm not really going out to take photos (although moonlight over the lake might be nice!). You need a K-x ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay,

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/5/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks, Cotty. No, it was rather very helpful. I quite liked the idea of that web site that you mentioned. Is it in any way international? Or do I have to be living in GB to be able to buy stuff from them??? Buy and download. -- Cheers,

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/5/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: On the other part of your message... It is pretty interesting thought, that did not occur to me before I read your message. Consider this. Music can either accompany pictures (pictures are primary, music is secondary) or pictures can

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-17 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/17/2010 10:32 AM, Cotty wrote: Boris, you are from the planet Vulcan. Welcome :) Live long and prosper \\//, ;-). Though last time I looked in the mirror my ears were not pointy. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file On 5/17/2010 10:32 AM, Cotty wrote: Boris, you are from the planet Vulcan. Welcome :) Live long and prosper \\//, ;-). Though last time I looked in the mirror my

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-17 Thread Boris Liberman
On 5/17/2010 4:13 PM, William Robb wrote: Perhaps, but you do bear a striking resemblance to this: http://is.gd/cd6mp William Robb Oh, shot, you uncovered my secret identity. Welcome, humans of Earth ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video, file

2010-05-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 5/17/2010 10:32 AM, Cotty wrote: Boris, you are from the planet Vulcan. Welcome :) Live long and prosper \\//, ;-) . Though last time I looked in the mirror my ears were not pointy. Just remember to tip the barber, and they never will be. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

2010-05-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/5/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Perhaps, but you do bear a striking resemblance to this: http://is.gd/cd6mp Thanks mate. Single shot latte. Mostly over the spacebar so doesn't look terminal. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche --

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/12/2010 12:37 PM, Miserere wrote: On 12 May 2010 12:30, Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com wrote: I've read that before, and thought it was very funny. Oh, you thought I was joking? Only category you missed was Post it on the Internet, especially on flickr. Someone will say it's

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/12/2010 10:09 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 9:19 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Chicago Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. When Tom and I were driving to the hotel on Thursday

RE: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread Bob W
I think this is as good a place for my comment in this discussion. For it to actually be Art there has to be _describable_ intent on the part of the /Artist/. That usually, but doesn't always, requires a certain level of craftsmanship. So I guess intentional bad driving is Art,

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread John Francis
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:21:15AM -0400, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 14, 2010, at 11:06 AM, John Francis wrote: images: http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0651 and http://www.jfwaf.com/Recent%20Work/pages/CityStreets.html where my satisfaction with the shot is to some

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-17 10:17 , P. J. Alling wrote: I think this is as good a place for my comment in this discussion. For it to actually be Art there has to be _describable_ intent on the part of the /Artist/. that's a thoughtful point, but i do believe there is art made with the intent of having no

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/17/2010 6:41 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-17 10:17 , P. J. Alling wrote: I think this is as good a place for my comment in this discussion. For it to actually be Art there has to be _describable_ intent on the part of the /Artist/. that's a thoughtful point, but i do believe there

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-17 16:47 , P. J. Alling wrote: On 5/17/2010 6:41 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-17 10:17 , P. J. Alling wrote: I think this is as good a place for my comment in this discussion. For it to actually be Art there has to be _describable_ intent on the part of the /Artist/. that's

Re: Chicago

2010-05-17 Thread Fernando
...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/12/2010 10:09 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 9:19 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Chicago Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. When Tom and I were driving

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