Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:39 , Theodore Beilby wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 3, 2011, at 14:52 , Ken Waller wrote: Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I had the M 300 4.0, i.e., no tripod mount on the lens. I just couldn't get much use out of it and sold it. At minimum, you would need to buy some kind of cradle to use a tripod for best results. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread mike wilson
On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread P. J. Alling
- From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. These are all DA*300/4 hand-held. And I would consider myself handicapped a bit by shooting a K10D, which I like

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread mike wilson
On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I hand hold my Sigma 300 F4, and you have seen my pictures.:-) Dave --

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ken Waller
kit in Denali. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On Apr 3, 2011, at 14:52 , Ken Waller wrote: Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

Re: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Jens
yourself. On Apr 4, 2011 20:21 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote

Re: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Jens
Thanks for sharing these photographs... Regareds jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 4, 2011 19:06 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made

Re: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Jens
/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Theodore Beilby
Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation.

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oddly, I could use my old 100-300 hand held. I was just never pleased with the results of the 300 f4. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I

RE: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Bob W
[...] I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More- Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann I love

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 05:11:08PM +0200, mike wilson wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. A bit of an exaggeration. This wouldn't be good enough for a 30x20 print, but it does OK:

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I hand hold my Sigma 300 F4,

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Glad you like it , Jens... It was one of the first I took with that lens... and I do have image stabilization, which sure helps I love that lens - highly recommend ann Jens wrote: Brilliant. Thanks for sharing, Ann. Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I've used a collapsed lightweight tripod that way ... using it as a grip or bracking one of the legs on my belt ,, does seem to help ann Theodore Beilby wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
My very favorite of that sort is from a friend of mine whose friend said to her Why do they call in public hair when it's so private? ann Bob W wrote: [...] I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ...

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 04:05:26PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, kwal

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-04-04 2:39 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread mike wilson
On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C).

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Tim Bray
Back in 2009 I developed the same itch and eventually bought a Tokina SL-400 F5.6 on eBay. It's a total pain in the butt to work with but there are a few things you can't photograph any other way.. A few samples at http://www.google.com/search?as_q=tokinaas_sitesearch=tbray.org, none of them

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread William Robb
On 03/04/2011 10:04 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Back in 2009 I developed the same itch and eventually bought a Tokina SL-400 F5.6 on eBay. It's a total pain in the butt to work with but there are a few things you can't photograph any other way.. A few samples at

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/3/2011 5:32 AM, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
The cosmetics on that Tokina look amazingly like my TX interchangeable mount Vivitar 400mm f5.6. Not a bad lens though I doubt that they share much in the way of optics. Tokina made a lot of internal changes during the years it was produced. On 4/3/2011 12:04 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Back in

Re: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Jens
Thanks PJ. I alreay got the M* 300 F4. It's a wonderful lens. But I want AF :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 3, 2011 19:22 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/3/2011 5:32 AM, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Thibouille
2011/4/3 Jens p...@planfoto.dk: Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). It really is a full frame lens though, without aperture ring it serverly limits its use. Depends the bodies you own.. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo:

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Ken Waller
Jens - I have had the 300mm f4.5 FA for the last 13 years IIRC, and I highly recommend it. The major rap against it is the lack of tripod collar, but I've found it to be a non issue. Its easy to hand hold IMO. I've used it in all sorts of weather, from below freezing to around 100 Degrees F

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time

Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-04-03 17:47, Ken Waller wrote: Jens - I have had the 300mm f4.5 FA for the last 13 years IIRC, and I highly recommend it. The major rap against it is the lack of tripod collar, but I've found it to be a non issue. Its easy to hand hold IMO. I got the F version specifically for the