Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-11 Thread Steve Desjardins
Sigh. Sorry. I REALLY need to proofread my Emails. I wanted to say Did the Toshiba have a stylus-based touch screen? The review I found http://www.mobiletechreview.com/toshiba_e750.htm didn't say. I was curious since the ipod touch is the first capacitance touch surface I've used. It threw

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-11 Thread graywolf
Same answer, yes, it uses a stylus. However Tom-Tom Navigator (gps map software) managed to use it with just a finger. Until you use it that way you do not realize the pluses and minuses of using your finger. It is really convenient, but it leave fingerprint smudges all over the screen.

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread AlunFoto
Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from CES either. For example:

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread jim
hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:50:03 +0100, AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Timber
http://img.index.hu/imgfrm/4/4/9/2/BIG_0003754492.jpg AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:50:03 +0100, AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote:

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread David Savage
Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one.

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, they changed the article. I think someone broke the embargo. AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread pnstenquist
There was an earlier Pentax leak. I'm sure we'll hear a lot more soon. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:44AM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning,

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 9:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was an earlier Pentax leak. So its not weather proof then. Dave Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? I purposely did not want anything with PocketPC written on it. I

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread graywolf
What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working battery*, I mean. *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure is at the forefront of technology

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? There was an earlier Pentax leak. So its not weather proof then. We know stuff leaks out, whether anything actually leaks in is anyone's guess. William Robb -- PDML

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
The big deal on the touch/iPhone isn't the PocketPC/Palm/Blackberry-type functionality(Which is very common), it's the iPod side of things. The iPhone is hands-down the best MP3-playing phone available, and also offers a lot more storage than most SmartPhones. If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Dell no longer makes the Axoim and HP's current PDAs have a smaller screen, 240x320. The bigger ones were nice but didn't sell well enough. A bigger screen on the iPod would make it too big. John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:11 PM On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:44AM -0500, Steve

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Did the Toshiba have a touch screen? I read an old web review and it didn't seem that way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:43 PM What is

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one, as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod. I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:11 AM, John Francis wrote: BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Outside of Apple and Archos, there's very little in the way of HDD-based small media players. But it's currently the only way to get capacities over about 16GB economically. Flash just isn't cheap enough or small enough for the higher capacities. Note the iPod classic is currently a 80GB or 160GB,

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'm OK with 8 GB for now. I just pick what I want and sync with my laptop.I know folks that do carry their whole collection around, but I go through phases and can get by with a mere several hundred songs at a time. I like the iPod touch. The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially given

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
*Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? My original series iPod 5G model, purchased 1 months after the iPod release in November 2001 through an Apple Employee purchase deal, is still permitting up to 9 hours of play per

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Macworld SF is next week. I'm expecting iPhone and iPod Touch new product announcements, well hoping really as something with more capacity, smaller, lighter, and with more functionality than my now- ancient iPod would be nice. The iPhone would be neat but I'm leery of the service contract

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread graywolf
Of course it has a touch screen. Be kind of hard to use without one. It was actually the first of the modern high res screen Pocket PC's, VGA, compact flash sd card slots, built in wifi, IR wireless. Newer Pocket PC's are faster but generally do not have a lot more features. With a CF GPS

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I like the iPod touch. The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty hard on cell phones. Understood. My phone is used intermittently every single day. I say

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Macworld SF is next week. I'm expecting iPhone and iPod Touch new product announcements, 3G iPhone. 32GB. 1.1.3 Come on Godders, get a first gen off eBay and jailbreak it ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/39khuq which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though. Sorry - I just re-read that and to clarify: the phone is slippery and the

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Jon Paul Schelter
Indeed. Arguably, if they maintain a positive pressure differential, it should be weather proof. On 10-Jan-08, at 12:43 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? There was an earlier

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Doug Brewer
trim your posts please. Do it for the children. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh I think it was clear enough to begin with Cotty wrote: On 10/01/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/39khuq which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though.

Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Patrick Genovese
See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Davis
Hmmm.. Jack --- Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
That's it. -- Original message -- From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I would bet so. It is supposed to be mostly internal changes. (With the rumors of a January announcement I kind of expected something from the LV Consumer Electronics Show, but it's started and... Well nothing.) Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or D300

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Specs does not tell. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled date for announcement. Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Gonz
Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Specs does not tell. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? On Jan 9

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Jan 9 15:39:03 EST 2008 Thibouille wrote: Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) Did you mean: Get a grip [... on yourself] ? ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Thibouille
;) And btw... http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/149260-post30.html On Jan 9, 2008 9:50 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wed Jan 9 15:39:03 EST 2008 Thibouille wrote: Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) Did you mean:

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
- From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Gonz
:47 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January is an internal

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Yes, but the others aren't really 230k pixels, but rather 1/3 of that. All LCD displays on cameras are specified by points

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Yes, but the others aren't really 230k pixels, but rather 1/3 of that. All LCD displays on cameras are specified by points or sub-pixels. The 922k display on the D3/D300/A700 has its pixels counted the same way as the 230k

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Peter Loveday
No ap stimulator ;-) Heh. Let the rants bgin (again :) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Nothing about the rumoured EL display in-viewfinder either. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-09 Thread Sandy Harris
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 922x displays are 640x480, the 230k displays are 320x240. twice the pixels in each direction. 640x480 is about the same as 512x512 = 256x1024, 256 k pixels 320x240 ... 64 k -- Sandy Harris,