Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-08 Thread mike wilson
> On 08 May 2020 at 01:45 "P. J. Alling" wrote: > > > That's all right in Rhode Island there's a place on RI 108 that's self > designated as the middle of nowhere.   Having been to the high desert in > California, I believe that they are wrong, the middle of nowhere is > somewhere North

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 7, 2020, at 5:45 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > That's all right in Rhode Island there's a place on RI 108 that's self > designated as the middle of nowhere. Having been to the high desert in > California, I believe that they are wrong, the middle of nowhere is somewhere > North

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Larry Colen
One of the fun things that you can learn in a multicultural environment is that the English word banjo, sounds very similar to the hindi term ban chod (and I apologize to anyone that might take offense at my use here), which refers to someone that performs certain acts with their sister. So,

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread P. J. Alling
That's all right in Rhode Island there's a place on RI 108 that's self designated as the middle of nowhere.   Having been to the high desert in California, I believe that they are wrong, the middle of nowhere is somewhere North East of Palmdale... On 5/7/2020 9:59 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Paul Sorenson
Aahh, Eva...a beautiful voice stilled way too soon. -p On 5/7/2020 10:35 AM, John wrote: Nothing wrong with Ukelele, but I don't care for his particular version. If it's not Judy Garland's version, I much prefer Eva Cassidy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rd8VktT8xY On 5/6/2020 13:45:55,

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Bill
On 5/7/2020 9:29 AM, John wrote: I know lots of musician jokes, not just banjo player jokes. The one someone posted about the bluegrass stage being level is one I know as: How do you know the drum riser is level? The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth. I tell people I'm not a

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sorry, IZ owns that song now. He was the man. BTW, the ceremony towards the end of the video was IZ's funeral. He was highly revered by all Islanders, but especially by native Hawaiians. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Thu, May

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread John
Nothing wrong with Ukelele, but I don't care for his particular version. If it's not Judy Garland's version, I much prefer Eva Cassidy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rd8VktT8xY On 5/6/2020 13:45:55, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Don't knock Ukulele music!

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2020-05-07 Thread John
I know lots of musician jokes, not just banjo player jokes. The one someone posted about the bluegrass stage being level is one I know as: How do you know the drum riser is level? The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth. I tell people I'm not a musician myself, I'm a guitar player. I

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 06.05.20 um 23:56 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola: Where and what is the Center of the Universe? Erps-Kwerps Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de --

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2020-05-07 Thread Bill
On Wed, 6 May 2020, 3:57 pm Daniel J. Matyola, wrote: > Where and what is the Center of the Universe? > > Dan Matyola > Toronto > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Bob Pdml
Was it pointing towards Perpignan? > On 7 May 2020, at 14:59, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >  > Interesting. > > The reason I asked is that, years ago, while driving through Vancouver > Island, I saw a sign pointing to "The Center of the Universe." I did not > have time for a side trip, but

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Interesting. The reason I asked is that, years ago, while driving through Vancouver Island, I saw a sign pointing to "The Center of the Universe." I did not have time for a side trip, but my curiosity was piqued. I have asked several Canadians I met in Maui, but none of them were familiar with

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-07 Thread mike wilson
> On 06 May 2020 at 22:15 Bill wrote: > > > On 5/6/2020 11:04 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > that's nice , John, and another illustration of nice banjo playing. > > A friend note abuse of banjo's seems to be replacing picking on (pun > > intended) ukes these days.. wonder why > > A friend

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 6, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: > > >> On 6 May 2020, at 23:53, Bob Pdml wrote: >> >>  >>> On 6 May 2020, at 22:57, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> >>> Where and what is the Center of the Universe? >> >> Perpignan Railway Station > >

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2020-05-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Pdml wrote: > >> On 6 May 2020, at 18:05, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> ?that's nice , John, and another illustration of nice banjo playing. >> A friend note abuse of banjo's seems to be replacing picking on (pun >> intended) ukes these days.. wonder why >> >> ann > >At least nobody has

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 6 May 2020, at 23:53, Bob Pdml wrote: > >  >> On 6 May 2020, at 22:57, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> Where and what is the Center of the Universe? > > Perpignan Railway Station https://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk/the-centre-of-the-univserse >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 6 May 2020, at 22:57, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Where and what is the Center of the Universe? Perpignan Railway Station > > Dan Matyola > *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > * > > > >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:16 PM Bill wrote: >>

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Where and what is the Center of the Universe? Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:16 PM Bill wrote: > On 5/6/2020 11:04 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > that's nice , John, and another illustration of nice banjo

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 6 May 2020, at 18:05, ann sanfedele wrote: > > that's nice , John, and another illustration of nice banjo playing. > A friend note abuse of banjo's seems to be replacing picking on (pun > intended) ukes these days.. wonder why > > ann At least nobody has decided to cross the banjo with

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Bill
On 5/6/2020 11:04 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: that's nice , John, and another illustration of nice banjo playing. A friend note abuse of banjo's seems to be replacing picking on (pun intended) ukes these days.. wonder why A friend from the Center of the Universe was visiting last year. We were

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Don't knock Ukulele music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I https://www.youtube.com/embed/V1bFr2SWP1I; frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen> Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread ann sanfedele
that's nice , John, and another illustration of nice banjo playing. A friend note abuse of banjo's seems to be replacing picking on (pun intended) ukes these days.. wonder why ann On 5/6/2020 11:54 AM, John wrote: Tony Furtado & Alison Krauss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ZmEn7OXTc On

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-06 Thread John
Tony Furtado & Alison Krauss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ZmEn7OXTc On 5/5/2020 13:59:46, ann sanfedele wrote: and then there is the Far Side cartoon.. easy to google... "welcome to heaven, here is your harp" / "wecome to Hell, here is your accordion" but listen to my friend (long

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread mike wilson
It's normal to use just the chanter to learn a tune or practice fingering. The full instrument is designed for outdoor use. Preferably a fight, where they excel at rallying the troops and frightening the enemy. I much prefer the smallpipes for their pleasant tone - plus you can sing as you

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, you know, I've been told that the way you can tell if the stage is level at a Bluegrass concert, is that the banjo player is drooling out of both sides of his mouth. On 5/5/2020 11:00 AM, John wrote: A banjo player went to Disneyland but just as he got to the gate he realized he's left

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread mike wilson
> On 05 May 2020 at 16:56 ann sanfedele wrote: > > > I love bagpipes and banjos - though I'd prefer not to hear a full > bagpipe in an enclosed space.. Playing the war pipes indoors is a pastime invented by heathens to patronise sassenach tourists. The small pipes are for indoor playing.

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
I met Josh White once, at The Gate of Horn - he broke my friend anitra's acoustic guitar I was told earlier - so that was the conversation starter. I knew Bill Broonzy, and Jack Elliot's brother was a friend of mine.. but I never met Jack.  Yes, right on about the Kingston trio. ann On

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
I couldn't remember that name "chanter" .. thanks for mentioning that. ann On 5/5/2020 2:53 PM, mike wilson wrote: It's normal to use just the chanter to learn a tune or practice fingering. The full instrument is designed for outdoor use. Preferably a fight, where they excel at rallying

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Odetta! One of my all-time favorites. I was a folk music snob in college. Baez and Dylan were "Pop" singers, ripping off the real folk artists: Woody Guthrie, Cisco Houston, Ledbelly, Odetta, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Josh White, Ramblin' Jack Elliot, and the Carter Family. Pete Seeger, Harry

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Ken Waller
> I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. >Arguably so are bag pipes, banjos and accordions. Same as a scream or a yell. -Original Message- >From: Larry Colen >Sent: May 5, 2020 12:31 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Thumbs up or dow

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
my super star folk singer that I actually had on my show was Odetta.  Bob G stood me up :-( - probably because I had just gotten married when I had the show. hehe. How lovely you got to interview Baez and Pete! ann On 5/5/2020 2:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Hey, Ann, I also had a folk

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Hey, Ann, I also had a folk music show on my college radio station. Never interviewed a piper, but did get to participate in interviews of Pete Seeger and Joan Baez. Joan brought I young lad with her, who said nothing. I later realized it was Bob Dylan, and I missed my chance to talk to him

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
I got a snap of you two in the fake Italian place.. I can't remember what I cooked for you.. some kind of chicken I imagine what a lovely time we had ann On 5/5/2020 12:49 PM, Bill wrote: On 5/5/2020 10:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: I wonder how many thought that the photo actually was your

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Mike - in 1958 I interviewed a bagpiper named George Armstrong.. on my college radio folk music show..  I met him because his wife was a cousin of my best friend and she arranged it... He played what he called was an rehersal instrument.. the stick without the bag on it :-) ann On 5/5/2020

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
and then there is the Far Side cartoon.. easy to google... "welcome to heaven, here is your harp" / "wecome to Hell, here is your accordion" but listen to my friend (long since passed away) Bob Gibson , you banjo bashers - playing a Flaminco piece on his banjo.. from his 1956 album

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Bill
On 5/5/2020 10:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: I wonder how many thought that the photo actually was your living room :-) You did have a working kitchen, I cooked you dinner one night! ann Yes you did, and delicious, it was. The meal I remembered was the one at that little pseudo Italian place

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Eric Weir
> On May 3, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Toine wrote: > > What's the wisdom of the list on this: > https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ > > I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr’s. Didn’t check em all. Most of what I saw I was, “Yuck!” I liked these two:

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 09:17:19AM -0500, Paul Sorenson wrote: > Definition:?? Optimist...An accordion player with a beeper. Definition #2: Perfect Pitch - when you throw the accordion out of the window, it hits the banjo player. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2020-05-05 Thread Bill
On 5/5/2020 9:56 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: I love bagpipes and banjos - though I'd prefer not to hear a full bagpipe in an enclosed space.. (folky moi) ann I'm considering buying a set of pipes. It's an instrument I've always wanted to learn to play. There are two theories surrounding the

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
I wonder how many thought that the photo actually was your living room :-) You did have a working kitchen, I cooked you dinner one night! ann On 5/5/2020 11:16 AM, Bill wrote: On 5/4/2020 3:43 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Bill, I like your use of HDR here -- I see you have done quite a bit of

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread ann sanfedele
I love bagpipes and banjos - though I'd prefer not to hear a full bagpipe in an enclosed space.. (folky moi) ann On 5/5/2020 10:57 AM, John wrote: On 5/5/2020 00:31:36, Larry Colen wrote: On May 4, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Bill
On 5/5/2020 9:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: https://youtu.be/sovTfNH4Lag I'll match your clawhammer style (excellent), and raise your bet with Rhiannon Giddens (much easier on the eyes). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDBm_LLWt70 bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2020-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://youtu.be/sovTfNH4Lag https://www.youtube.com/embed/sovTfNH4Lag; frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen> Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * -- PDML

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2020-05-05 Thread Bill
On 5/4/2020 3:43 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Bill, I like your use of HDR here -- I see you have done quite a bit of redecorating since I visited in 2005 :-) Har!, ann Did we even have a working kitchen when you visited us? That was right around when we were finishing up the major parts of the

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Bill
On 5/5/2020 8:17 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Definition:  Optimist...An accordion player with a beeper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSRcxdTqNiM bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Bill
On 5/4/2020 10:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On May 4, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Arguably so are bag pipes, banjos and accordions. They most definitely are, though it takes a high level of artistic maturity that many

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread John
A banjo player went to Disneyland but just as he got to the gate he realized he's left his car unlocked with his instrument on the back seat. He ran back as quickly as he could, but he was too late ... Someone had already put another banjo in there. On 5/5/2020 10:17:19, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread John
On 5/5/2020 00:31:36, Larry Colen wrote: On May 4, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Arguably so are bag pipes, banjos and accordions. I saw a jazz band in New Orleans once that had all three. Just as a painter can

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Paul Sorenson
Definition:  Optimist...An accordion player with a beeper. On 5/5/2020 8:29 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On May 4, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Arguably so are bag pipes, banjos and accordions. I find those

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >> On May 4, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. > >Arguably so are bag pipes, banjos and accordions. I find those work best as percussion instruments. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 4, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Postmaster wrote: > > John wrote: > >> I agree that what most people criticize in HDR images is the tone mapping >> rather >> than the HDR itself, but they are two parts of the whole. > > Exactly. HDR software takes multiple images in 8-bit color (that is, 8

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 4, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Arguably so are bag pipes, banjos and accordions. > Just as a painter can resort to a pallet knife in lieu of a brush, a > photographer can employ different tools to achieve

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Stanley Halpin wrote: > >>> On May 3, 2020, at 5:06 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >>> >>> Some people see Kincade's work as a blueprint, I prefer to see it as a >>> cautionary tail. >>> >> P.J.’s comment is perfect for The List: biting, a

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Well first lets be traditional, "Damned spell checker", I should have paid more attention when it suggested a corrected spelling... Secondly you mean the  Thagomizer... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thagomizer On 5/4/2020 12:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Stanley Halpin wrote: On May 3, 2020,

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Waller
Ditto, not unnatural looking at all. -Original Message- >From: Paul Stenquist >Sent: May 4, 2020 4:06 PM >Subject: Re: Thumbs up or down? > >Very nice, tastefully done. > > >> On May 4, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Bill wrote: >> >> On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM,

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice, tastefully done. > On May 4, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Bill wrote: > > On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Just as a painter >> can resort to a pallet knife in lieu of a brush, a photographer can employ >> different tools

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread mike wilson
> On 04 May 2020 at 17:16 Mark Roberts wrote: > > > Stanley Halpin wrote: > > >> On May 3, 2020, at 5:06 PM, P. J. Alling > >> wrote: > >> > >> Some people see Kincade's work as a blueprint, I prefer to see it as a > >> cautionary tail. > >> > >P.J.’s comment is perfect for The List:

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread ann sanfedele
Bill, I like your use of HDR here -- I see you have done quite a bit of redecorating since I visited in 2005 :-) Har!, ann On 5/4/2020 3:58 PM, Bill wrote: On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Just as a painter can resort to a

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Postmaster
John wrote: >I agree that what most people criticize in HDR images is the tone mapping >rather >than the HDR itself, but they are two parts of the whole. Exactly. HDR software takes multiple images in 8-bit color (that is, 8 bits per color) and then combines them into an image in 32-bit color.

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Bill
On 5/4/2020 2:54 PM, John wrote: On 5/4/2020 15:58:25, Bill wrote: On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Just as a painter can resort to a pallet knife in lieu of a brush, a photographer can employ different tools to achieve an

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread John
On 5/4/2020 15:58:25, Bill wrote: On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Just as a painter can resort to a pallet knife in lieu of a brush, a photographer can employ different tools to achieve an effect. I like the shot you singled

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 04.05.20 um 21:58 schrieb Bill: This is an HDR image that I did when I was using the decidedly short range K7: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/HDRSample.html ...and it's a great example of what HDR can do. I'm in the process of creating catalogs of all my RAW shots since 2005 in ON1

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Bill
On 5/4/2020 1:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Just as a painter can resort to a pallet knife in lieu of a brush, a photographer can employ different tools to achieve an effect. I like the shot you singled out. It's important to make a

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. HDR is a tool that enables artistic expression. Just as a painter can resort to a pallet knife in lieu of a brush, a photographer can employ different tools to achieve an effect. I like the shot you singled out. > On May 4, 2020, at 2:38 PM, John wrote: > > On 5/3/2020 14:56:50,

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread John
On 5/3/2020 14:56:50, Toine wrote: What's the wisdom of the list on this: https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr's Toine Some of them are good. Some of them are awesome. HDR is Ok if you can do it so it's not obviously

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Stanley Halpin wrote: >> On May 3, 2020, at 5:06 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> Some people see Kincade's work as a blueprint, I prefer to see it as a >> cautionary tail. >> >P.J.’s comment is perfect for The List: biting, a bit snide, and yet >perceptive and ultimately right on the money …

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2020-05-04 Thread Stanley Halpin
Mark! P.J.’s comment is perfect for The List: biting, a bit snide, and yet perceptive and ultimately right on the money … stan > On May 3, 2020, at 5:06 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > If you like Thomas Kincade, you'll like this guy. > > Some people see Kincade's work as a blueprint, I

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 04.05.20 um 09:40 schrieb Bob Pdml: Those pictures are the photographic equivalent of boiled sweets. MARK! Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Bob Pdml
Those pictures are the photographic equivalent of boiled sweets. >> On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 20:56, Toine wrote: >> >> What's the wisdom of the list on this: >> https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ >> >> I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are >> hdr's -- PDML

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-04 Thread Toine
I had to google Thomas Kincade. Now I have to rinse my eyes. Trey's images are much better to look at. Some are good. I tried HDR (+2,0,-2 bracketing) in the past, only one survived: https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/architecture-1/content/no-title-19/lightbox/ I probably shouldn't post that :) I

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Sorenson
Agree.  Most are overdone. On 5/3/2020 1:56 PM, Toine wrote: What's the wisdom of the list on this: https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr's Toine -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people.

RE: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread jcoyle
Makes my eyes bleed! Horrible rendering. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of Toine Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 4:57 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Thumbs up or down? What's the wisdom of the list on this: https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ I think

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2020-05-03 Thread ann sanfedele
Now here is a MARK for you too! well said, Ralf ann On 5/3/2020 4:08 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 03.05.20 um 20:56 schrieb Toine: Most if not all are hdr's HDR is like make-up. Less is more. If it's done really good you don't notice it immediately. As an 'effect' is more than a little

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread ann sanfedele
Down, of course!  but I bet he is making money - :-( ann On 5/3/2020 2:56 PM, Toine wrote: What's the wisdom of the list on this: https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr's Toine -- ann sanfedele photography

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
If you like Thomas Kincade, you'll like this guy. Some people see Kincade's work as a blueprint, I prefer to see it as a cautionary tail. On 5/3/2020 2:56 PM, Toine wrote: What's the wisdom of the list on this: https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ I think some or most are overdone in post

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/5/20, Toine, discombobulated, unleashed: >What's the wisdom of the list on this: >https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ > >I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr's There's one or two in there that are quite Robertstechesque --

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 03.05.20 um 20:56 schrieb Toine: Most if not all are hdr's HDR is like make-up. Less is more. If it's done really good you don't notice it immediately. As an 'effect' is more than a little old by now. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 3, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Toine wrote: > > What's the wisdom of the list on this: One might argue that wisdom of the list is an oxymoron when applied to this list. > https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ > > I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr’s

Re: Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread Bulent Celasun
Fine, even good, perhaps occasionally awesome images... Just, not my cup of tea. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/

Thumbs up or down?

2020-05-03 Thread Toine
What's the wisdom of the list on this: https://stuckincustoms.smugmug.com/ I think some or most are overdone in post editing. Most if not all are hdr's Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for looking and for the ID. The noise doesn't bother me. The bird appears sharp at 100%, given his size relative to the frame. Paul On May 5, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Christian wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Godders. The colors are what I saw there, but I appreciate the feedback. I don't need it to complete the show, and since the consensus her is that it's not a keeper, it won't be going. Paul On May 5, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm not sure how I

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
: thumbs up, thumbs down? I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today. It's not a great bird pic, but it might be a nice nature center shot. What I mean

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
And I appreciate your honest evaluation. Thanks. Paul On May 5, 2007, at 11:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/5/2007 9:07:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
The bird is probably somewhat diffused by the foreground reeds. I've noticed that always seems to happen when you focus on an object that is behind something else. Thanks for the feedback. The PDML has voted, and this bird is staying home:-). Paul On May 5, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Rick Womer

thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today. It's not a great bird pic, but it might be a nice nature center shot. What I mean by that is that it

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Jack Davis
I certainly see what your point. In the interest of more sharply defining the markings, I MIGHT bump the contrast/saturation slightly and add a smidge of sharpening. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jack. Yes, I was a bit conservative on the sharpening and contrast. It's at ISO 800, and I didn't want to accentuate the noise, but I'm going to revisit it. Noisy prints are somehow nicer than noisy web images. Perhaps it's because we're used to seeing grain in a print. Paul On May

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Leon Altoff
Paul, I like the composition of the picture, but I dislike the harshness of the background. I don't want to start another bokeh discussion, and it may just be the very vertical nature of the grass in the background, but I think the background ruins an otherwise nice image. What lens did you

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Leon Altoff Subject: Re: thumbs up, thumbs down? Paul, I like the composition of the picture, but I dislike the harshness of the background. I don't want to start another bokeh discussion, and it may just be the very vertical nature of the grass

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 06/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today. It's not a great bird pic, but it might be a nice

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
up, thumbs down? Paul, I like the composition of the picture, but I dislike the harshness of the background. I don't want to start another bokeh discussion, and it may just be the very vertical nature of the grass in the background, but I think the background ruins an otherwise nice

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the feedback, Rob. The responses to photo threads are few and far between on the PDML. Now, if I asked about sex with goats, it would be a different story:-). I realize this is not an image that would win kudos for photographic excellence or technical proficiency. But I'm

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Leon. It's the A 400/5.6 coupled with the A3X-S converter. it doesn't always produce nice bokeh, and I always have to correct some digital fringing (as I did in his pic/ It's a combo that is not recommenced by the High Order of Esteemed Nature Shooters. :-)). Paul On May 5, 2007, at

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today. It's not a great bird pic, but it might be a nice nature center shot. What I

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today. It's not a great bird pic, but it might be a nice nature center shot. What I mean

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: thumbs up, thumbs down? I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Rick Womer
Strange, Paul. The bird is sharp but somehow doesn't =look= sharp. The foreground reeds are distracting. The left side is overexposed. Thumbs down, I would say. Rick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my

Re: thumbs up, thumbs down?

2007-05-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/5/2007 9:07:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure how I feel about this shot, but it might be a good one for my nature center gallery. I passed it up the first time I reviewed the day's shooting, but looked at it again today. It's not a

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