Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Not sure how relevant this is but a a few years ago I picked up a Sony VHS to DVD converter (not very expensive) and let one of son's who had time on his hands convert our VHS tapes to DVD...quite easily as I recall ... reasonable, certainly acceptable quality. Sent our PAL tapes from our

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Ken Waller
Sounds to me you should give it a shot and report back as to the results. Good luck. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jos de Fotograaf" <josdefotogr...@4prof.nl> Subject: Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Nov 27, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 27/11/16, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> $2 a minute seems pretty reasonable really. I love the 8mm to 5d >> capture idea though. That makes me want to go make one and offer >> capture services myself

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/11/16, Zos Xavius, discombobulated, unleashed: >$2 a minute seems pretty reasonable really. I love the 8mm to 5d >capture idea though. That makes me want to go make one and offer >capture services myself lol. Far fewer old 8mm movies around that someone might need transferring - perhaps

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Zos Xavius
$2 a minute seems pretty reasonable really. I love the 8mm to 5d capture idea though. That makes me want to go make one and offer capture services myself lol. On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote: > Thanks Steve, that are some very interesting links,

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Thanks Steve, that are some very interesting links, showing good results with Canon dslr. Making my own telecine machine would be a very interesting project, but I have several very interesting projects waiting for me to have time.. I am getting more and more facts on the table to

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
If you like fettling with small LEDs and disemboweling lenses, this is an ingenious method for making your own telecine machine: blog: This thread

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-27 Thread mike wilson
Sorry, I've been away terrorising the Scots. Most people have answered the reasons why it is not a good idea. I would only add that the camera will also record projector noise (assuming the 8mm is silent) as well as the picture. It's just a lot less fuss to have it done. If I were _really_

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Larry Colen
Jos de Fotograaf wrote: Maybe, Paul, The image quality will be limited by the quality of the projector lens, the screen properties and the lens of the K1. The source films are with playing little children, cameraman with unsteady hands and camera maybe with simple fixed focus lens. From what

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/11/16, Jos de Fotograaf, discombobulated, unleashed: >The K1 generates files with .MOV extension, I do not know yet if >this is good or bad. Even though they have a .mov suffix I will bet you a bottle of Grolsch that the files are wrapped MP4's. If they are, they will not be

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Paul in MKE
I'd have to agree with Paul. Trying to do this with any DSLR would be a lot of work for a very questionable outcome. I had a lot of 8mm from the 1950s and 60s that I outsourced to be digitized with the resultant quality about as good as the original films. Next up is some 16mm shot by my

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Thanks Bruce and Steve, I will have to do a test if bars or flicker can be avoided by adjusting the projector speed. Of course this has to be in combination with the different frame rates that the K1 offers (30 or 25 or 24) If the projector has 16 frames per second and it can be adjusted

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Myriad reasons why it's ill suited. As you said you're introducing a lot of variables: projector, screen and more. Plus you'll have to shut down every time the K-1 reaches its video recording limit. Then you'll have to edit the breaks. Film transfer isn't very expensive. Find a good supplier

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Maybe, Paul, The image quality will be limited by the quality of the projector lens, the screen properties and the lens of the K1. The source films are with playing little children, cameraman with unsteady hands and camera maybe with simple fixed focus lens. From what I have seen: the

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
24 fps for 16mm film, much lower for 8mm, my bad. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think the projection/K-1-video option will lead to sync problems and >strobing or bars. That's possible, but the frame rate on the projector will be quite slow. Some projectors have the ability to 'roll' a bit either side of the 24fps

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-25 Thread Bruce Walker
I think the projection/K-1-video option will lead to sync problems and strobing or bars. Have a read of this: http://www.thebattles.net/video/8mm_restoration.html On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 25/11/16, Jos de Fotograaf, discombobulated,

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/11/16, Jos de Fotograaf, discombobulated, unleashed: >Thanks Mike, you are right if the mechanical shutter would be used for >video, but I would expect the that The K1 uses the electronic shutter, >is that not the case? The only realistic way would be to project the film onto a screen

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
But why remains a question. You can't duplicate the quality of film transfer by trying to shoot it with a dslr. Paul via phone > On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote: > > Thanks Mike, you are right if the mechanical shutter would be used for video, >

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-25 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Thanks Mike, you are right if the mechanical shutter would be used for video, but I would expect the that The K1 uses the electronic shutter, is that not the case? Greetz, Jos On 25-Nov-16 06:49, mike wilson wrote: Not so much ill-suited but for every minute of film you'll put about 1500

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-24 Thread mike wilson
Not so much ill-suited but for every minute of film you'll put about 1500 exposures on your shutter. An hour and a half's film would pretty much wear the camera out. > On 24 November 2016 at 21:17 Jos de Fotograaf wrote: > > > Thank you for your response, Paul. > >

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-24 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Thank you for your response, Paul. Could you plse indicate which properties (or lack of properties) make the K1 ill suited for this task? I could hand the films over to a specialized company, but I enjoy so much doing things myself :-) Greetz, Jos On 24-Nov-16 14:08, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Re: digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, it's not a good idea. A DSLR is ill suited to the task of movie film transfer. There are machines that transfer film quickly and efficiently, as well as hundreds of companies that offer the service. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Jos de Fotograaf

digitizing 8mm film with K1?

2016-11-24 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Dear group, I have this box with 50year old 8mm family films. I want to digitize them for distribution to my children. Is it a good idea to use my K1 for this? Any experience? Greetz, Jos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to