Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread P. J. Alling
only the jumper, and not the background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame. Second, I fiddled with levels a bit to darken it. I now think that the original looks over-bright and over-exposed. Let me know if you

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread Eactivist
this one that I initially posted yesterday, in two ways: First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame. Second, I fiddled with levels a bit

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread Juan Buhler
, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame. Second, I fiddled with levels a bit to darken it. I now think that the original looks over-bright and over-exposed. Let me know if you have a preference. I certainly

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread Gonz
modified this one that I initially posted yesterday, in two ways: First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame. Second, I fiddled with levels a bit

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-15 Thread frank theriault
On 8/15/05, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, I prefer the original. Or actually, somewhere in between to be quite honest. The improved version is overly sharpened and saturated, leaving many of the details and tonal range messed up, IMO. Nice pic tho. Thanks, everybody for your

PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
As a result of an off-list discussion, I modified this one that I initially posted yesterday, in two ways: First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 14, 2005, at 2:01 PM, frank theriault wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3634511size=lg For reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg Hmm. I tend to like the original rendering more. I think it does a better job of

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
discussion, I modified this one that I initially posted yesterday, in two ways: First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame. Second, I fiddled

RE: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
need a version 1.2 ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:01 PM To: PDML Subject: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1 As a result of an off-list discussion, I modified this one that I initially posted

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, snip But I think you can do better.snip Oh my God. A highschool flashback. cheers, frank vbg -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Powell Hargrave
than on the print. On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame. Second, I fiddled with levels a bit to darken it. I now think that the original looks over-bright and over-exposed. Let me know if you have a preference. I certainly prefer the improved version: http://www.photo.net/photodb

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The main purpose i use the preview screen on my 10D for whilst shooting is to check for blown high lights (they flash black and white). Review. Lest anyone gets the wrong idea ;-) Its a great tool. Agreed. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-10 Thread George Sinos
Earlier Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main purpose i use the preview screen on my 10D for whilst shooting is to check for blown high lights (they flash black and white). and Robe Studdart wrote: It's not a loss of skill, it's a new set of tools. And I think that's the evolution. First we

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Dag T
Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 04.59 skrev William Robb: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the

RE: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) DagT You're enabled ! Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Arnold Stark
HORRRAAAY Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better.

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread John Francis
Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. Pretty much exactly what I predicted

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Pieter Nagel
John Francis said: Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread cbwaters
] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: version 1.1 Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Thomas Stach
John Francis said: Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect. This idea may have been nixed because of concerns about battery drain. The stop-down solenoid may not draw a *lot* of current, it's probably a significant amount in the context

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread wendy beard
At 04:13 AM 09/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) DagT Sell you mine for that price if you want! Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dag T wrote: Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) Sell you mine for that price if you want! Oh great. Prices on K and M lenses are going back up again already! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Stan Halpin
I downloaded direct to the camera instead of putting the installer on a CF card and putting that to the camera. Date - time and all other settings were preserved. Stan Thomas Stach wrote: this is Thomas from Germany! I also just installed the new firmware; all language settings and user

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Dag T
I used the card, and date and time was preserved. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 13.46 skrev Stan Halpin: I downloaded direct to the camera instead of putting the installer on a CF card and putting that to the camera. Date - time and all other settings were preserved. Stan Thomas Stach wrote:

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Stan Halpin
Interesting. I wonder why Thomas lost his date-time settings. stan Dag T wrote: I used the card, and date and time was preserved. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 13.46 skrev Stan Halpin: I downloaded direct to the camera instead of putting the installer on a CF card and putting that to the

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Desjardins
Funny, but someone (or several folks) actually suggested the use of the DOF feature for the use of M/K lenses. I wonder if someone at Pentax picked up on this, or if they had already thought to do this and had simply rushed the camera to market before they could implement this feature. You know,

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Jolly
Steve Desjardins wrote: You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Hmm, Jessops (UK) have it listed at £1199.00, which with the exchange rate currently at ~$1.80 to the pound isn't very funny... unlike the

RE: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread zoomshot
I'm curious about the high end baby... Ziggy -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 January 2004 15:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: version 1.1 Funny, but someone (or several folks) actually suggested the use of the DOF feature

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Steve Jolly wrote: Hmm, Jessops (UK) have it listed at £1199.00, which with the exchange rate currently at ~$1.80 to the pound isn't very funny... We (UK) will never match US prices. However, our mate from sunny Brighton gives you the grip as well for the same price

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Desjardins
Very, Very Funny. Now I understand the stupid name. . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/04 10:30AM Steve Desjardins wrote: You know, with these fixes and

RE: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Andre Langevin
You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Steven Desjardins $1350? Andre

RE: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Desjardins
Yes. The listed price is $1699 and you need to do the Add this to your cart to see a better price to see $1349.95. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/04

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: unlike the rather unfortunate Jessops Code for the camera: http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=PENISTD ROTFL!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Frits Wüthrich
is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out there? Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says Version 1.1. Thanks. Tom Lesser -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Christian
- From: Tom Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:59 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. I've just installed v1.1 and have tried

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Bill Owens
That is probably normal. What should change is shutter speed. Bill - Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 I assume the update is only for MSMC-M and SMC lenses

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bill, After reading the initial release (and being totally unfamiliar with the *istD) i was wonder4ing if this change would improve K lens compatability. This is very good news and may cause me to rethink the *istD. On Jan 8, 2004, at 10:59 PM, William Robb wrote: Friends, we have

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
If an M lens works, a K lens will work. On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:19 PM, Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K.

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom Lesser Subject: Re: version 1.1 Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in off A apertures and when I press

RE: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Alan Chan
So the prices of K/M lenses on eBay will surge once again? vbg Pentax must receive enormous amount of complaints to make such decision. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread ernreed2
Bill said (among other things): It says M lenses, doesn't mention K. I think when Pentax uses this language: ... SMC Pentax or SMC Pentax-M lenses that do not have an A position on the aperture ring the term SMC Pentax means the same lenses you mean by the term K. That would seem consistent

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Stan Halpin
: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Just for clarification: does this upgrade mean that K and M lenses are useable in aperture priority mode, or stopped down? William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Bill Owens
Sounds like K to me. Anyway, is there anything different between the way the K and the M lenses work that might cause the istD to reject one and not the other? Not that I know of, but I'm not an expert, quite the opposite This is pretty good news indeed ;-)) Yes indeed, makes my M macro,

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Now I'm disappointed that I sold my 16mm Zenit ;- Yes indeed, makes my M macro, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 (hey, only 1/2 stop slower that an 80-200 2.8 and a lot less expensive!), and Zenit 16mm fisheye all compatible

16mm Zenit, was Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Bill Owens
08, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Now I'm disappointed that I sold my 16mm Zenit ;- Yes indeed, makes my M macro, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 (hey, only 1/2 stop slower that an 80-200 2.8 and a lot less expensive!), and Zenit 16mm fisheye all compatible

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Andre Langevin
I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Bill Or even matrix metering with Mark Roberts' low-cost mount modification or Michel Carrere-Gee do-it-yourself Kapton taping. Especially nice for wide-angles. Andre

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Chris Brogden
- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Just for clarification: does this upgrade mean that K and M lenses are useable in aperture priority mode, or stopped down? William Robb wrote

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! WR Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. WR Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the WR green button will give the correct shutter speed. WR EV comp im manual is a nice touch. WR The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. WR William Robb Anyone

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Bill Owens
Subject: Re: version 1.1 The release mentions HyperManual mode, but doesn't specify aperture priority. If I stop an M or K lens down and press the green button, will this give a correct shutter speed in both manual and aperture priority modes? If it works for aperture priority

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Jim Apilado
Glad I stuck it out. Pentax heard the complaints and did something to correct it. Jim A. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:59:57 -0600 To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: version 1.1 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Stan Halpin
second for the camera to compute the correct shutter speed. Bill - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:14 AM Subject: Re: version 1.1 The release mentions HyperManual mode, but doesn't specify aperture priority

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Tiger Moses
One of you guys with a 300baud modem is draging the Pentax site down and I cant download! Can someone send me the EXE file directly? Please

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Stan Halpin
Sorry - I got the Mac version... stan Tiger Moses wrote: One of you guys with a 300baud modem is draging the Pentax site down and I cant download! Can someone send me the EXE file directly? Please

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Fred
I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Or even matrix metering with Mark Roberts' low-cost mount modification or Michel Carrere-Gee do-it-yourself Kapton taping. That would be great. Has anyone actually tried this now

Re: version 1.1

2004-01-08 Thread Bill Owens
Seems to work fine. Bill - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:30 AM Subject: Re: version 1.1 I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera