Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG

2007-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/11/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks Christian. It's not snow, however. Hasn't snowed here in Silly Valley at this elevation in many years. Uncut diamonds. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
On Nov 14, 2007 4:40 PM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Information here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=25597175 I saw that. All I can say is it's very agricultural. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks. But then again what are these settings of sharpening and contrast that you set so that histogram is as close as possible to the RAW data? Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If you leave the JPEG settings at full resolution and normal defaults, approximately 8-12x will be close to 1:1

Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed AM 12:08:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: These were also made on the Sunday morning walk ...

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
Sorry Doug but that is a non-argument. You have done two different things. Would you have argued the same if you had taken a video camera and filled 10 DVDs with cine footage? Print the lot out, factor in your time at a reasonable rate, _then_ come back and tell us how much it cost. I'll

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread Thibouille
True but then, you can eliminate the shots which are garbadge and you won't print those. Film don't let you filter those garbage shots (on a cost POV). So that's not the whole story but there's already an economy IMO. On Nov 14, 2007 10:03 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Doug but

Re: BBC web site retrospective on Magnum

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Mark! Mark Roberts wrote: Only 12 photos, but they're good ones: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/in_pictures_magnum_photos___60th_anniversary/html/1.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
On Nov 14, 2007 6:20 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. But then again what are these settings of sharpening and contrast that you set so that histogram is as close as possible to the RAW data? The in camera contrast, saturation sharpening settings? Press Menu, and they're

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that 3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce equal numbers of the same end product before you tell me that it is cheaper. From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed AM 10:15:32 GMT To:

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
Digital noise, or grain if you like, is one thing. Banding is another. I viewed this shot again today on my monitor at work I couldn't see the banding. But it's not calibrated I also couldn't see any detail in the shadows. I could see the banding when I opened it in PS and just looked at the

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
On Nov 14, 2007 2:30 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I like chimping Mark! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
As Adam noted, the way pixel are arrayed in an image encourages patterning to some extent. Pixel peepers can find all manner of things. Viewers of photographs don't worry about them. Paul On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:07 AM, David Savage wrote: Digital noise, or grain if you like, is one thing.

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that 3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce equal numbers of the same end product before you tell me that it is cheaper. It's cheaper because you don't *have* to produce *any* prints. -- PDML

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
That's such a load of BS Paul. I've seen and taken many high ISO shots that both have haven't displayed vertical banding. Unlike regular noise, the banding pattern is, to me at any rate, highly undesirable very difficult to counter in post processing. And I didn't need to scrutinise it at the

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote: Print the lot out, factor in your time at a reasonable rate, _then_ come back and tell us how much it cost. I wasn't printing them then, either. That per-roll cost was purely for the film, developing, and medium resolution scanning. I'll let you off with capital

Re: Those looking for a FA*300/4.5 tripod mount ...

2007-11-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
LOL A new way to damn with faint praise! Certainly no complement here in the US. Regards, Bob S. On Nov 14, 2007 2:10 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 4:40 PM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Information here:

Re: PESO: Another Different Shot

2007-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
Was an experiment just for reactions. Thanks, Bob Jack --- Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Link works about 1 of 3 times for me. No problem though, I don't care much for the picture... The rest of your stuff is so much better. Regards, Bob S. On Nov 13, 2007 6:56 PM, Jack

Another happy birthday: Gianfranco

2007-11-14 Thread AlunFoto
With my unlimited access to secret information g, and sudden urge to share it, I would like to congratulate Gianfranco Irlanda with his birthday today. He hasn't posted much lately, but I hope he's still lurking. Happy birthday Gianco! Sorry I don't recall your age, but you're younger than me

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread George Sinos
These comparisons are fun. When I bought my first digital camera I built a spread sheet that calculated my total cost per shot for both film and digital. More or less the same thing, just expressed differently. Cost per shot on digital continues to decrease with time. Cost per shot on film

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Then I guess the rest of us are blind:-) -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's such a load of BS Paul. I've seen and taken many high ISO shots that both have haven't displayed vertical banding. Unlike regular noise, the banding

Re: My new toy

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
On Nov 14, 2007 2:14 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylwek, I am taking this lens with me on the trip to Prague and it just seems to me ;) that it will be my primary lens for the trip. I hope you also have something wider to take with you. I hope that very soon I'll have enough

OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Some interesting photos from Paris's Mois de la Photo: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=9513 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night) Then I guess the rest of us are blind:-) Some of us just know better than to get involved in these sorts of discussions with you Paul. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Another happy birthday: Gianfranco

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Hmmm, well, I am joining in greeting Gianfranco, but I wonder as to sources and sudden inclination for the so called secret information ;-) Happy Birthday, Gianfranco! Boris AlunFoto wrote: With my unlimited access to secret information g, and sudden urge to share it, I would like to

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: George Sinos Subject: Re: Paid For These comparisons are fun. When I bought my first digital camera I built a spread sheet that calculated my total cost per shot for both film and digital. More or less the same thing, just expressed differently. Cost

Re: My new toy

2007-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: My new toy On Nov 14, 2007 2:14 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylwek, I am taking this lens with me on the trip to Prague and it just seems to me ;) that it will be my primary lens for the trip. I hope you also

Re: Another happy birthday: Gianfranco

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
On Nov 14, 2007 11:02 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my unlimited access to secret information g, Maybe knarf's foil hats aren't so silly after all :-) Happy B'day Gianfranco. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Interesting is right. While I find some of them excellent, I don't like them all. But it's nice to see what the Paris critics find compelling. Paul -- Original message -- From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some interesting photos from Paris's Mois de la

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Always gotta make it personal, don't you Bill. I'm just discussing digital noise. -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

Re: Another happy birthday: Gianfranco

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Happy birthday, Gianfranco. I miss seeing your work here. We need some Gianfranco pics! Paul -- Original message -- From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] With my unlimited access to secret information g, and sudden urge to share it, I would like to congratulate

Re: OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well, I don't like them all either, but, as you said, they are all interesting. I did particularly appreciate the ones by Berlin, Chun, Garcin and Avedon. Dan On Nov 14, 2007 9:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting is right. While I find some of them excellent, I don't like them all.

Re: PESO - Last Clasp

2007-11-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/13/2007 9:36:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They are beautiful, Marnie! Just beautiful. Boris Thanks, Boris. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 14, 2007, at 2:50 AM, David Savage wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 6:20 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. But then again what are these settings of sharpening and contrast that you set so that histogram is as close as possible to the RAW data? The in camera contrast,

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: I'm pretty sure I would still be on my second computer (I'm up to #5 now), had it not been for digital photography and it's ever increasing vacuuming up of resources, so for me I can add around 7K for that, plus another 2K for a laptop for onsite use. However, I like

Knarf? You there?

2007-11-14 Thread Rick Womer
Haven't heard from Frank for a while. He's still updating his blog, but his pix aren't showing up, just the text. Rick Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.

Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm The tree trunks are pleasing, but leaves in snow? Godders? Kinda cliche for you isn't it? :-) Snow in SoCal would definitely not

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks for this. Good info. I hadn't realized that the jpeg settings affected the histogram. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 14, 2007, at 2:50 AM, David Savage wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 6:20 PM, Boris Liberman

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Mike, I bought the Panny L1 and an Olympus 11-22 mm lens in mid-May. A week later I shot a job on spec with them. Last month I closed a licensing deal on one exposure from that shoot that paid 70% more than the total cost of the equipment. I've not produced any paper prints at all, the

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Could be. Obviously there's noise there. I see it more as blotching than banding. In any case, iIt doesn't take the form of the kind of vertical banding one can induce by shooting the inside of a lens cap and then pushing it. My comments in regard to this were never meant to be defensive in

Re: Knarf? You there?

2007-11-14 Thread Adam Maas
Rick Womer wrote: Haven't heard from Frank for a while. He's still updating his blog, but his pix aren't showing up, just the text. Rick The images are showing up for me, I just checked his blog a few minutes ago. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 03:26:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm

Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
I like the tree trunks. Interesting textures and nice rendering. I don't dislike the leaves. It's a nice picture but perhaps not unique enough to prove compelling. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:18 AM,

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
I've saved a huge amount of money shooting digital, but i've been frugal in regard to computer equipment. My dual 1.25 Mac G4 is perfectly adequate for processing the 16-bit 144 meg digital images that my RAW conversions yield. I've had it for quite a few years. I bought it at least a couple of

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 12:44:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Paid For mike wilson wrote: He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that 3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread Adam Maas
No, but he's not comparing it to 3000 prints or slides. He's comparing it to 3000 frames of neg film (before the prints). Consumers are the only ones to print every frame individually. Even his typical shooting (30x36exp rolls) would cost $600 for the event. That's essentially the cost of a

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts
FWIW: I noticed the vertical banding in the dark areas of Paul's photo. Looks odd to me in that the bands are spaced quite far apart. Perhaps it's EMF from fluorescent lighting or some other source? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 03:10:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Paid For No, but he's not comparing it to 3000 prints or slides. He's comparing it to 3000 frames of neg film (before the prints). Consumers are the only ones

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Just FYI: The reason for this is that the histogram and saturation blinkies are calculated from the preview JPEG embedded in the RAW file. Godfrey On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for this. Good info. I hadn't realized that the jpeg settings affected the

PEOW:Grandson New Shiba Pup

2007-11-14 Thread Jay Taylor
It's been a while since I've posted any pictures of my grandson Darius. He's such a big boy now (4 yrs). We went to have a look at our soon to be newest family member, a male Black Tan Shiba Inu puppy that is 4 weeks old. We'll be bringing him home in a couple more weeks. Now we'll have

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Indeed, I often noticed that whatever is blinking on camera screen is not blinking in the LR ;-). Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Just FYI: The reason for this is that the histogram and saturation blinkies are calculated from the preview JPEG embedded in the RAW file. Godfrey -- PDML

Re: PEOW:Grandson New Shiba Pup

2007-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
I'm getting, FORBIDDEN, no permission to open (?) Jack --- Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a while since I've posted any pictures of my grandson Darius. He's such a big boy now (4 yrs). We went to have a look at our soon to be newest family member, a male Black Tan Shiba

Re: PEOW:Grandson New Shiba Pup

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
For the built-in flash image, this is really quite good! So, you're going to have 3 dogs... Hmmm. How many humans will be there to *actually* tend to the dogs? ;-) Boris Jay Taylor wrote: It's been a while since I've posted any pictures of my grandson Darius. He's such a big boy now (4

OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-14 Thread Cotty
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7094258.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: More industrial nights and magic

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Intriguing... The sky is so different between the RHS and LHS of the image that it almost seems as two separate photographs. Yet another excellent work from you, Ralf. You're arguably the master of this kind of photography! Boris Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Thank heavens those stupid long

Re: OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
For the moment I thought that the next thing you were going to do, Daniel, is to ask us to guess which were pure photographs and which were (heavily) manipulated ones ;-). I also like only select few of the whole 9... Boris Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Some interesting photos from Paris's Mois

Re: MESO - Lamp Sky

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Hmmm, I think it is not really minimalist... I seem to be at lack of words here... The way you see intrigues me here... Boris Adam Maas wrote: *Minimalism* Every So Often. http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/1978477986/ Larger/Direct lLink

Re: My new toy

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
David Savage wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 2:14 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylwek, I am taking this lens with me on the trip to Prague and it just seems to me ;) that it will be my primary lens for the trip. I hope you also have something wider to take with you. I hope that very

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Bob Blakely
What the hell is chimping? Regards, Bob... -- Gort, klaatu barrada nikto! -- Guess the author! -- Guess the source! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks Paul! Paul Stenquist wrote: All very nice. I like week 41 the best. A unique perspective. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Ann, my reply is between your lines. ann sanfedele wrote: I think this is the most successful one: Week 43: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=19358full=1 And it looks to me that it should be in the same exhibit, if you will, as the one Cotty took and showed here yesterday or the

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks Rick. 41 - Perhaps, indeed, I should have asked my wife to take a picture of me. I so much wanted to photograph my reflection, and indeed it did not occur to me that I could ask for help. Hmmm, a mental note to self is in order here. 42, 43 - thanks! Boris Rick Womer wrote: Boris,

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Brian Walters wrote: You want 'honest and brutal? I think they're all crap. Well, that's brutal but not very honest. :-) I like all three but with a slight preference for No.43. The contrasting light and shadow is just wonderful. Well, the point is that I usually want honest

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like 43, Boris. Nice interweaving not only of fronds, but shadows. Well caught. Marnie aka Doe :-) Thanks... I tried many shots of palms before, but this one seems to be at least presentable. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, The first is very graphic. I like the overlay of window(?) pane light on the square...a sort of layering. My first impression of the 2nd was that the light was draining down a drain in the brickwork, with only a small puddle left. Regards, Bob S. For some reason

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Dave! David J Brooks wrote: On 10/31/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Here are some more weeks: Week 41: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=19356full=1 Self portrait or. I like this one. Love the line work. Week 42:

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Bong, Like I mentioned in my another reply on the same matter, the wider lens could've been more interesting for #45. But then I would have to struggle with redundant objects... Your comment about #44 leaves me profoundly intrigued. What hmmm does it mean to be profound? Cheers! Boris Bong

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Igor Roshchin wrote: I like the 45 one. I have a few thoughts about it: 1. I wonder if it would have been better to catch the light reflection that is at the lower part reflecting from the water or from the boundary of the water and the brick, rather then from the brick alone. 2. The two

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Doug, my reply interspersed... Doug Franklin wrote: Week 41: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=19356full=1 I like the concept but it's just not clicking for me. I think it would suit me better if you could find an angle where you didn't get yourself in the reflection. Not all pale

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks. Though I should say that the fact that words were necessary for the second one to work for you makes it less successful... It's like success but on one condition ;-). Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Week 44:

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, chimping is the process of reviewing the photographs just taken on the small screen of your digital camera. It has the same root as word chimp-anzee... Boris Bob Blakely wrote: What the hell is chimping? Regards, Bob... -- Gort, klaatu barrada nikto!

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread ann sanfedele
looking at the (digital) photos you just took to check you got it right. the joke being if you like it you are going oooh oooh imitating the sound a chimp makes. ann Bob Blakely wrote: What the hell is chimping? Regards, Bob... -- Gort, klaatu barrada nikto! --

December PUG reminder

2007-11-14 Thread Scott Loveless
Hey gang! It's the 14th and I don't have any photos for the December PUG. http://pdmlpug.org/?p=17 -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- Almost heaven, West Virginia Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River Life is old there, older than the trees Younger than the

Re: My new toy

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Sylwek, I am taking this lens with me on the trip to Prague and it just seems to me ;) that it will be my primary lens for the trip. I hope you also have something wider to take with you. No, Dave, I've nothing wider than 21mm in prime

Re: PESO: Wasp

2007-11-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Gaud, I hate wasps. Nice capture though. David Savage wrote: G'day All, One from this weekends bug hunt (~120kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg K10D, Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro, 1/200 @ f8, ISO 400 All comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- The

Re: OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm... http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/arts/2005/07/images/071114photo_2.jpg I think I'm onto something ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/large/38a.jpg :-) Godfrey On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Some interesting photos from Paris's Mois de la Photo:

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: FWIW: I noticed the vertical banding in the dark areas of Paul's photo. Looks odd to me in that the bands are spaced quite far apart. Perhaps it's EMF from fluorescent lighting or some other source? Make that EMI (electromagnetic interference) From the spacing of the lines,

Re: PESO: Bowling Night

2007-11-14 Thread ann sanfedele
I don't see it either -- I'm late coming into this and not reading every post... ann Paul Stenquist wrote: No beers at this point:-). But I was working rapidly and trying for some motion blur induced by subject movement. But I can see that I'm the one who moved here. I don't see the

Re: PESO: Another Different Shot

2007-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
No, it isn't very good, but it's sure crappy! Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately different doesn't always make a good photograph, (you could look at my entire body of work for example). Jack Davis wrote: This was once an active practice range which is located in

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
It was shot at 1/30th. I just checked and found that the subsequent frame shows even more magenta noise. (Same people, same black shirts.) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6637600size=lg Some of the noise appears to look like widely spaced bands, but in other places it looks more like

Re: OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Was that Frank wandering the streets of SF that night? Cross dressing too... Wonders will never cease. ]:-) G On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Frank has become the rage in Paris? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Photo

2007-11-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank has become the rage in Paris? Regards,Bob S. On Nov 14, 2007 12:43 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/arCts/2005/07/images/071114photo_2.jpg I think I'm onto something ...

RE: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-14 Thread Bob W
Ha! I thought you were about to tell us you'd nearly made it! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14 November 2007 17:41 To: pentax list Subject: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

Re: Boris (PESO/PAW)

2007-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the grey square very much. The placement of the shadow is perfect. A nice composition and interesting visual. I'm not as sure about the other shot. The puddling in the foreground doesn't interest me to any great extent, and of course the background is out of

Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)

2007-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night) Always gotta make it personal, don't you Bill. I'm just discussing digital noise. Sometimes it just works out that way. William Robb -- PDML

Re: OT - Nearly made the Darwin List

2007-11-14 Thread Brian Walters
Seems like it's only a matter of time Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ http://www.blognow.com.au/peso1/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/brianwalters Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Paid For Ironically, it's film that has been driving my computer upgrades lately. Digital requires much less storage, RAM or processing power than manipulating high-res scans. My MF scans are easily in the 150MB range, and even

Re: PEOW:Grandson New Shiba Pup

2007-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jay Taylor Subject: PEOW:Grandson New Shiba Pup It's been a while since I've posted any pictures of my grandson Darius. He's such a big boy now (4 yrs). We went to have a look at our soon to be newest family member, a male Black Tan Shiba Inu puppy that

PESO -- Final Glory

2007-11-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The peak colors around here were over a couple of weekends ago, but it was raining so no good photos. Some species haven't even started, I guess you wouldn't want to overload something. I hope this is at least interesting in it's banality. (The tree is a burning bush I believe).

Re: PESO -- Final Glory

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Beautiful color, nice scene. You might have placed the burning bush more to the right. You could still do that with a crop. That would also get rid of that square thing next to the road. You might also clone out the telephone wires. That would greatly improve the shot. It's a fairly easy job

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have seen exactly that in both my own children's shooting habits and my wedding/portrait work. I'm seeing less and less print ordering, but lots of web galleries or computer based slideshows. The digital angle makes this much easier, as the natural medium for it is a computer monitor. The

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Well put. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's nothing wrong with that logic because, odd as it may seem to old 20th-century farts like you and me, the print is no longer the preferred medium for viewing photographs, at

Re: Geso: Johanna V2. Cropping alternatives

2007-11-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The third new one is the best crop. It just is. Lasse Karlsson wrote: Thanks again for the feedback on the first Johanna pics. I updated the Johanna gallery with tree new pictures. (Same occasion and location, just a little later, but shot with another body, lens and film type.) It's just

Re: PESO -- Final Glory

2007-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
Glorious color! Where is this? I miss the brilliance of color I once enjoyed in Iowa. Only down thing about it was that it meant winter was close by. I quit enjoying that when I was about 12. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The peak colors around here were over a couple of

Re: Wireless flash question: Control vs Master

2007-11-14 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 14, 2007, at 16:12, Charles Robinson wrote: What is the control wireless mode for? I've been playing around with it, and it seems that the flash attached to the camera - the AF540FGZ - fires (and triggers the remote slave flash) in either control or master mode. I'm a little puzzled

Re: Wireless flash question: Control vs Master

2007-11-14 Thread Jack Davis
Yes. In control mode, the on-board flash only comunucates info to the external flash and is fired out of sync with the shutter. In master mode the on-board flash also adds its exposure to the scene. I think.(?) Jack --- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the control wireless

Wireless flash question: Control vs Master

2007-11-14 Thread Charles Robinson
What is the control wireless mode for? I've been playing around with it, and it seems that the flash attached to the camera - the AF540FGZ - fires (and triggers the remote slave flash) in either control or master mode. I'm a little puzzled as to what the control mode is for and the user

Re: Sigma 600mm f/8.0 Mirror Lens Sample Photos and Specifications

2007-11-14 Thread Christian
Roman Melihhov wrote: http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/600_8_mirror Anyone uses Sigma 600mm mirror lense? SR should help with shake. Judging from other birding photos I saw bokeh isnt so nice, but somehow reminds me DA 16-45mm bokeh, yeah this DA lense too has this weird donut type

Re: December PUG reminder

2007-11-14 Thread Rick Womer
If you want to inflict pain during the holiday season, substitute The Little Drummer Boy for John Denver! --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey gang! It's the 14th and I don't have any photos for the December PUG. http://pdmlpug.org/?p=17 -- Scott Loveless

Re: Paid For

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
There's no argument that some aspects of digital photography have the capacity to be cheaper than using film. But you could have sold the rights to an image made with film for the same profit level and used the same argument to prove that buying new film gear was worth it. It still seems, to

Re: A question about chimping

2007-11-14 Thread Bob Blakely
Reviewing the shot(s) on my digital camera is the same as shooting a Polaroid, only more efficient! Chimping. It sounds like a term a photo luddite would coin. Regards, Bob... -- Gort, klaatu barrada nikto! -- Guess the author! -- Guess the source! From: Boris

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