Re: PESO: Oxford Gargoyle

[Bob W-PDML]

On 14 Jul 2017, at 02:39, Mark C 
> wrote:

Nice shot and good use of a controlled bokeh. Did you scale the wall to get to 
eye level with the gargoyle?

I have a shot of them getting up there:

http://tinyurl.com/Marklisagargoyle

B

Mark Roberts wrote:
View from the tower of the University Church of St. Mary in Oxford
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e102728-29.jpg
K-1 with FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited

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Re: Peso-Lonely Bull

[Jack Davis]

- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:08:23 AM
Subject: Peso-Lonely Bull


Not a new post, but it's for a largely new generation.
Shot in the early evening as I was leaving the Sutter Buttes.

F70~210 f/4/LX

Last post for awhile. (my treat)

J

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Re: PESO: Oxford Gargoyle

[John]

For commas, yes.

On 7/14/2017 09:03, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Is Oxford a sanctuary city?  


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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:



On 14 Jul 2017, at 02:39, Mark C  wrote:

Nice shot and good use of a controlled bokeh. Did you scale the wall to
get to eye level with the gargoyle?

I have a shot of them getting up there:

http://tinyurl.com/Marklisagargoyle

B

Mark Roberts wrote:
View from the tower of the University Church of St. Mary in Oxford
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e102728-29.jpg
K-1 with FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited

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Peso-Lonely Bull

[Jack Davis]

Not a new post, but it's for a largely new generation.
Shot in the early evening as I was leaving the Sutter Buttes.

F70~210 f/4/LX

Last post for awhile. (my treat)

J

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Re: PESO: Oxford Gargoyle

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Is Oxford a sanctuary city?  


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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

>
> On 14 Jul 2017, at 02:39, Mark C > wrote:
>
> Nice shot and good use of a controlled bokeh. Did you scale the wall to
> get to eye level with the gargoyle?
>
> I have a shot of them getting up there:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/Marklisagargoyle
>
> B
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> View from the tower of the University Church of St. Mary in Oxford
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e102728-29.jpg
> K-1 with FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited
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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[Jack Davis]

Nothing to be proud of, but you lost me.:-)
So, you prefer the initial image?
Thanks!

J

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:02:40 AM
Subject: Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

I see that when I click on the photo that is against the blue background 
I get the photo alone on a black background...
I didn't see the halos until you mentioned them in your off list note.  
I like this image as it is better than your redo that you sent in email...
Just my personal preference regarding bw tones...

The artist and photographer I couldn't think of suddenly came to mind - 
Charles Sheeler..

ann

On 7/14/2017 6:32 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Thanks, Ann! No filter and I had the
> same page color influence question.
> Can't hook up any letters to your
> "C" question.
>
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>> I like that a lot - the structure and light -- though I tend to prefer 
>> colder tones in BW... not sure if darl blue of the page is making it look 
>> more
>> olivy in tone  --   I'm guessing you shot with a yellow or orange filter, 
>> yes?
>>
>> It reminds me of an early 20th century painter whose name I can't drag out 
>> of my brain except his first name starts with a C  .. maybe a Charles 
>> someone.
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>>> On 7/13/2017 1:11 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
>>> Nice one, Jack.
>>>
>>> Marnie aka Doe
>>>
 On 7/13/2017 9:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of 
 Nicholaus, CA
 Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
 Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
 Probably Tri-X.

 C?

 J

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Re: Eclipse photography

[Gonz]

Thanks John.


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM, John  wrote:
> Mine is a Sigma 300mm F2.8 EX APO in Pentax KAF mount. It's the last of
> their film lenses in that focal length, before they reformulated for
> digital. It has a detachable lens hood that reverses when it's in its
> case. Measuring across the outside of the lens hood it's 129mm.
>
> The Astrozap 124mm-130mm fits snugly over the end of the lens hood. I
> barely need to tighten the three thumb screws to keep it in place.
>
> Measuring outside to outside of the front element is 115 mm, so it looks
> like the hood adds 14 mm. I was able to buy from a local camera dealer
> & actually verify it fit when I purchased it.
>
> The Pentax Forums specs for the SMC Pentax-FA* 300mm F2.8 ED[IF] says it
> can take 112mm screw on filters on the front and gives a Diam x Length =
> 123 x 247 mm. So, I'm thinking the outside of the lens hood is 123mm.
>
> The AZ-1514 I bought might fit loosely or you might need to go with the
> next size smaller - AZ-1513 117mm-124mm (4-5/8 to 4-7/8) diameter to get
> a snug fit.
>
> The page I linked before has the full line of Astrozap filters.
>
>
> On 7/13/2017 16:34, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> John, I'm thinking of getting this too.  Is yours for the A *300/2.8?
>> Thats what I'm going to use and haven't had a chance to measure the
>> outside diameter of the lens end.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM, John  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2017 21:54, Mark Roberts wrote:


 I expect there will be more than a few of us attempting to photograph
 the eclipse next month. I've just started a little research into it
 and I'm closing in on a decision as to what filter to use. My longest
 lens is my FA*300/2.8 and it's happily configured with an in-lens 43mm
 filter capability. Here's what I've found that looks most promising:
 https://www.optcorp.com/spectrum-threaded-camera-solar-filter-43mm.html

 Anyone have any experience or other recommendations?

>>>
>>> I've talked to several people who photographed previous eclipses and was
>>> told not to use the internal filters because the lens will concentrate
>>> enough light to melt them & besides messing up the filter it can damage
>>> the lens & the sensor. One of my sources stated he had found out the
>>> hard way.
>>>
>>> I got an Astrozap AZ-1514 Full Aperture Glass Solar filter that fits
>>> over the lens hood on my 300/2.8 - "Full Aperture Glass Solar Filter
>>> 124mm-130mm (4-7/8 to 5-1/8) diameter."
>>>
>>> https://www.astrozap.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=36
>>>
>>> I tried it out at GFM. It worked just fine, but I'm still learning how
>>> to aim the camera. I should measure the lens hood diameter on my
>>> 80-200/2.8 Tokina ATX-Pro and order a filter for it.
>>>
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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[ann sanfedele]

I see that when I click on the photo that is against the blue background 
I get the photo alone on a black background...
I didn't see the halos until you mentioned them in your off list note.  
I like this image as it is better than your redo that you sent in email...

Just my personal preference regarding bw tones...

The artist and photographer I couldn't think of suddenly came to mind - 
Charles Sheeler..


ann

On 7/14/2017 6:32 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Ann! No filter and I had the
same page color influence question.
Can't hook up any letters to your
"C" question.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I like that a lot - the structure and light -- though I tend to prefer colder 
tones in BW... not sure if darl blue of the page is making it look more
olivy in tone  --   I'm guessing you shot with a yellow or orange filter, yes?

It reminds me of an early 20th century painter whose name I can't drag out of 
my brain except his first name starts with a C  .. maybe a Charles someone.

ann



On 7/13/2017 1:11 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
Nice one, Jack.

Marnie aka Doe


On 7/13/2017 9:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of Nicholaus, CA
Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
Probably Tri-X.

C?

J

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An iPhone 7 portrait

[Paul Stenquist]

Shot with iPhone's portrait mode that simulates minimal depth of field. 
Softened the facial details as well and did some general retouching. The lady 
is nearly as old as me, so like me, some help is she n order!

https://www.photo.net/photo/18407966/untitled

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Re: PESO - Vines

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Thanks, Jack. :-)

Thought about it, maybe I will (re wire).

Marnie aka Doe

On 7/14/2017 1:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Like this very much, Marnie!
However, I believe I'd remove the strand of wire that crosses the frame
a short ways into the scene.

J
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 14, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:

Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
year.

Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in bright 
sunlight.

Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go to 
mustard in the spring/early summer.

http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: An iPhone 7 portrait

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a very fine portrait!

My wife has an iPhone 7+, and really loves this portrait feature.

Being a troglodyte, I still use an iPhone 6+, and rarely use the camera for
anything beyond images from Rotary meeting to use in our bulletin or
interesting meals to share with my son.


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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> Shot with iPhone's portrait mode that simulates minimal depth of field.
> Softened the facial details as well and did some general retouching. The
> lady is nearly as old as me, so like me, some help is she n order!
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407966/untitled
>
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Re: PESO - Vines

[Jack Davis]

Like this very much, Marnie!
However, I believe I'd remove the strand of wire that crosses the frame
a short ways into the scene.

J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
> 
> Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
> year.
> 
> Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in bright 
> sunlight.
> 
> Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go to 
> mustard in the spring/early summer.
> 
> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Re: Eclipse photography

[james]

What i have done in the past is to use 2 polarizing filters and cross 
polarize them. 1st one (closest to sun) must be a non circular type.

Done it this way as i am cheap and is all that i have.
Also good results can be had with a welding glass. How you mount it 
however is entirely up to you.


James

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PESO - Vines

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many 
that year.


Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in 
bright sunlight.


Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all 
go to mustard in the spring/early summer.


http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[Jack Davis]

Appreciated, David. Thanks!

J

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From: "David J Brooks" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:59:06 AM
Subject: Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

nice line work and texture here

Dave

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of Nicholaus, 
> CA
> Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
> Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
> Probably Tri-X.
>
> C?
>
> J
>
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Re: Peso-Lonely Bull

[Jack Davis]

When I first posted this, I got a
message that it didn't go. So..
I sent it again. Weird!
J



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> On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Davis" 
> To: "PDML" 
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:08:23 AM
> Subject: Peso-Lonely Bull
> 
> 
> Not a new post, but it's for a largely new generation.
> Shot in the early evening as I was leaving the Sutter Buttes.
> 
> F70~210 f/4/LX
> 
> Last post for awhile. (my treat)
> 
> J
> 
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Re: PESO - Vines

[Rick Womer]

I really like the geometry of the shot.

IMHO, the wire doesn’t detract at all, and would be a huge PITA to clone out. 
Cropping it would wreck the composition.

Rick



> On Jul 14, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Like this very much, Marnie!
> However, I believe I'd remove the strand of wire that crosses the frame
> a short ways into the scene.
> 
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
>> 
>> Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
>> year.
>> 
>> Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in bright 
>> sunlight.
>> 
>> Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go 
>> to mustard in the spring/early summer.
>> 
>> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome.
>> 
>> Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Re: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit

[Rick Womer]

> "fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee”

Ummm… that’s 3 1/2 hours each way.

Remind me never to take a long ferry ride on your advice!

Cheers,

Rick


> On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mark!  I will do it.
> And for those on the other side of Lake Michigan, note that Muskegon is a 
> fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee…
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>> I went to Muskegon Michigan today to see an exhibit of Edwin S Curtis's 
>> North American Indian prints. It was an excellent and massive exhibit, well 
>> worth a visit.  I doubt that many PDMLer's are nearby, but in case anyone is 
>> passing that way...
>> 
>> All 723 of Curtis' prints were on display - the full set. The museum 
>> believes this is the first time the entire set has been displayed. I 
>> wondered how a fairly small museum got this exhibit and where it would go 
>> next. As it turns out the Muskegon public library was one of the 200+ 
>> subscribers to the original project and received the books and photogravure 
>> prints as they were published. A docent told me that at this time there were 
>> no plans to travel the show.
>> 
>> My only complaint - 723 prints plus supplemental displays is a bit 
>> overwhelming - I plan another visit or two over the summer.
>> 
>> Here are a few cell phone snaps of some of the exhibits:
>> 
>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/edward-s-curtis-exhibit?blog=9
>> 
>> And the museums webpage:
>> 
>> http://www.muskegonartmuseum.org/exhibition/edward-s-curtis-north-american-indian/
>> 
>> 
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Re: Peso-Lonely Bull

[Jack Davis]

I changed "Linley" to lonely once,
but I see auto correct won anyway. :-)
J

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> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> He's Linley because I said so. 0K?
> Glad you remembered the shot.
> 
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:54 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Well  it is there now
>> 
>> Lone bull, for sure - but how do you know he was lonely?   I remember that 
>> shot -- nice one.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 7/14/2017 12:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> When I first posted this, I got a
>>> message that it didn't go. So..
>>> I sent it again. Weird!
>>> J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
 
 
 
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 From: "Jack Davis" 
 To: "PDML" 
 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:08:23 AM
 Subject: Peso-Lonely Bull
 
 
 Not a new post, but it's for a largely new generation.
 Shot in the early evening as I was leaving the Sutter Buttes.
 
 F70~210 f/4/LX
 
 Last post for awhile. (my treat)
 
 J
 
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Re: PESO - Vines

[Paul Stenquist]

It improves the soil as well!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Vineyard growers seed mustard. It improves the soul for the grape vines. 
> Pretty too!
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Bob.
>> 
>> Aha, thanks for the mustard tip too. It grows naturally in California, BUT 
>> it can be planted too (and comes back the following year). It is so 
>> prevalent in vineyards I felt growers must encourage it.
>> 
>> Marnie aka Doe  And Napa used to have a Mustard Festival.
>> 
>>> On 7/14/2017 4:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>> That's a lovely shot.
>>> 
>>> Mustard protects against disease-causing nematodes, and enriches the soil.
>>> B
>>> 
 On 14 Jul 2017, at 20:33, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
 
 Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many 
 that year.
 
 Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in 
 bright sunlight.
 
 Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go 
 to mustard in the spring/early summer.
 
 http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Re: An iPhone 7 portrait

[Paul Stenquist]

I do have a very good iPhone! Apple engineers kicked butt on this one. Right 
Nicole?

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> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> You must have a very good i-phone 
> 
> Nice capture - she'd probably appreciate a copy.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: An iPhone 7 portrait
> 
> 
>> Shot with iPhone's portrait mode that simulates minimal depth of field. 
>> Softened the facial details as well and did some general retouching. The 
>> lady is nearly as old as me, so like me, some help is she n order!
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407966/untitled
>> 
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Re: PESO: Mandeville

[ann sanfedele]

My favorite of your recent PESOS

ann

On 7/13/2017 11:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

One of my favorites for outdoor planters:
https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/13/mandeville
K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
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Re: Peso-Lonely Bull

[Jack Davis]

He's Linley because I said so. 0K?
Glad you remembered the shot.

J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:54 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Well  it is there now
> 
> Lone bull, for sure - but how do you know he was lonely?   I remember that 
> shot -- nice one.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 7/14/2017 12:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> When I first posted this, I got a
>> message that it didn't go. So..
>> I sent it again. Weird!
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jack Davis" 
>>> To: "PDML" 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:08:23 AM
>>> Subject: Peso-Lonely Bull
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not a new post, but it's for a largely new generation.
>>> Shot in the early evening as I was leaving the Sutter Buttes.
>>> 
>>> F70~210 f/4/LX
>>> 
>>> Last post for awhile. (my treat)
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407928
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Re: PESO - Vines

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Thanks, Paul and Rick.

For comments on photo and soil and soul.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

On 7/14/2017 6:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Wine improves the soul.

Mustard improves the wine.

Therefore, mustard improves the soul.

Rick





On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

It improves the soil as well!

Paul via phone


On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Vineyard growers seed mustard. It improves the soul for the grape vines. Pretty 
too!

Paul via phone


On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:

Thanks, Bob.


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Re: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit

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I will try to make it to Muskegon for this. Sounds like a must see.

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> On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering because the old ferry took several hours to cross the lake - 
> but the new express ferry does it in 2.5 hours. It probably works out to 
> longer considering time to load the cars etc.
> 
> Muskegon is about 4 hours form Chicago and 3 hours from Detroit, doable as a 
> day trip or overnight.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
>>> "fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee”
>> Ummm… that’s 3 1/2 hours each way.
>> 
>> Remind me never to take a long ferry ride on your advice!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Stanley Halpin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Mark!  I will do it.
>>> And for those on the other side of Lake Michigan, note that Muskegon is a 
>>> fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee…
>>> 
>>> stan
>>> 
 On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:
 
 I went to Muskegon Michigan today to see an exhibit of Edwin S Curtis's 
 North American Indian prints. It was an excellent and massive exhibit, 
 well worth a visit.  I doubt that many PDMLer's are nearby, but in case 
 anyone is passing that way...
 
 All 723 of Curtis' prints were on display - the full set. The museum 
 believes this is the first time the entire set has been displayed. I 
 wondered how a fairly small museum got this exhibit and where it would go 
 next. As it turns out the Muskegon public library was one of the 200+ 
 subscribers to the original project and received the books and 
 photogravure prints as they were published. A docent told me that at this 
 time there were no plans to travel the show.
 
 My only complaint - 723 prints plus supplemental displays is a bit 
 overwhelming - I plan another visit or two over the summer.
 
 Here are a few cell phone snaps of some of the exhibits:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/edward-s-curtis-exhibit?blog=9
 
 And the museums webpage:
 
 http://www.muskegonartmuseum.org/exhibition/edward-s-curtis-north-american-indian/
 
 
 
 
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Re: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for the heads up on this Mark. My wife loves early indian photo 
images. We plan on attending this week.


Detroit to Muskegon is about 190 miles, mostly expressway.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: Re: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit


I was wondering because the old ferry took several hours to cross the 
lake - but the new express ferry does it in 2.5 hours. It probably works 
out to longer considering time to load the cars etc.


Muskegon is about 4 hours form Chicago and 3 hours from Detroit, doable as 
a day trip or overnight.


Mark



Rick Womer wrote:

"fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee”

Ummm… that’s 3 1/2 hours each way.

Remind me never to take a long ferry ride on your advice!

Cheers,

Rick


On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Stanley Halpin 
 wrote:


Thanks Mark!  I will do it.
And for those on the other side of Lake Michigan, note that Muskegon is 
a fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee…


stan


On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:

I went to Muskegon Michigan today to see an exhibit of Edwin S Curtis's 
North American Indian prints. It was an excellent and massive exhibit, 
well worth a visit.  I doubt that many PDMLer's are nearby, but in case 
anyone is passing that way...


All 723 of Curtis' prints were on display - the full set. The museum 
believes this is the first time the entire set has been displayed. I 
wondered how a fairly small museum got this exhibit and where it would 
go next. As it turns out the Muskegon public library was one of the 
200+ subscribers to the original project and received the books and 
photogravure prints as they were published. A docent told me that at 
this time there were no plans to travel the show.


My only complaint - 723 prints plus supplemental displays is a bit 
overwhelming - I plan another visit or two over the summer.


Here are a few cell phone snaps of some of the exhibits:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/edward-s-curtis-exhibit?blog=9

And the museums webpage:

http://www.muskegonartmuseum.org/exhibition/edward-s-curtis-north-american-indian/



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Re: An iPhone 7 portrait

[Ken Waller]

You must have a very good i-phone 

Nice capture - she'd probably appreciate a copy.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: An iPhone 7 portrait


Shot with iPhone's portrait mode that simulates minimal depth of field. 
Softened the facial details as well and did some general retouching. The 
lady is nearly as old as me, so like me, some help is she n order!


https://www.photo.net/photo/18407966/untitled

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Re: PESO - Vines

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Thanks, Bob.

Aha, thanks for the mustard tip too. It grows naturally in California, 
BUT it can be planted too (and comes back the following year). It is so 
prevalent in vineyards I felt growers must encourage it.


Marnie aka Doe  And Napa used to have a Mustard Festival.

On 7/14/2017 4:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

That's a lovely shot.

Mustard protects against disease-causing nematodes, and enriches the soil.
B


On 14 Jul 2017, at 20:33, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:

Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
year.

Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in bright 
sunlight.

Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go to 
mustard in the spring/early summer.

http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: PESO - Vines

[Paul Stenquist]

Like the shot very much as well. You could carefully clone out the wire, a wee 
bit at a time. I often have to do that when shooting cars at events. Not all 
that hard.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I really like the geometry of the shot.
> 
> IMHO, the wire doesn’t detract at all, and would be a huge PITA to clone out. 
> Cropping it would wreck the composition.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> Like this very much, Marnie!
>> However, I believe I'd remove the strand of wire that crosses the frame
>> a short ways into the scene.
>> 
>> J
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
>>> year.
>>> 
>>> Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in 
>>> bright sunlight.
>>> 
>>> Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go 
>>> to mustard in the spring/early summer.
>>> 
>>> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome.
>>> 
>>> Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Re: Peso-Lonely Bull

[ann sanfedele]

Well  it is there now

Lone bull, for sure - but how do you know he was lonely?   I remember 
that shot -- nice one.


ann

On 7/14/2017 12:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

When I first posted this, I got a
message that it didn't go. So..
I sent it again. Weird!
J



Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:



- Original Message -
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To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:08:23 AM
Subject: Peso-Lonely Bull


Not a new post, but it's for a largely new generation.
Shot in the early evening as I was leaving the Sutter Buttes.

F70~210 f/4/LX

Last post for awhile. (my treat)

J

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Re: PESO: Mandeville

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.

Not quite as crude as the others, eh?


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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:52 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> My favorite of your recent PESOS
>
> ann
>
>
> On 7/13/2017 11:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> One of my favorites for outdoor planters:
>> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/
>> 7/13/mandeville
>> K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
>> Comments are invited
>>
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Re: PESO - Vines

[Bob W-PDML]

That's a lovely shot.

Mustard protects against disease-causing nematodes, and enriches the soil.
B

> On 14 Jul 2017, at 20:33, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
> 
> Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
> year.
> 
> Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in bright 
> sunlight.
> 
> Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go to 
> mustard in the spring/early summer.
> 
> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
> 
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Re: PESO - Vines

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Vineyard growers seed mustard. It improves the soul for the grape vines. Pretty 
too!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Bob.
> 
> Aha, thanks for the mustard tip too. It grows naturally in California, BUT it 
> can be planted too (and comes back the following year). It is so prevalent in 
> vineyards I felt growers must encourage it.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe  And Napa used to have a Mustard Festival.
> 
>> On 7/14/2017 4:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> That's a lovely shot.
>> 
>> Mustard protects against disease-causing nematodes, and enriches the soil.
>> B
>> 
>>> On 14 Jul 2017, at 20:33, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many that 
>>> year.
>>> 
>>> Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in 
>>> bright sunlight.
>>> 
>>> Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all go 
>>> to mustard in the spring/early summer.
>>> 
>>> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome.
>>> 
>>> Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Re: An iPhone 7 portrait

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ken. I sent it to her, and she was pleased.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> You must have a very good i-phone 
> 
> Nice capture - she'd probably appreciate a copy.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: An iPhone 7 portrait
> 
> 
>> Shot with iPhone's portrait mode that simulates minimal depth of field. 
>> Softened the facial details as well and did some general retouching. The 
>> lady is nearly as old as me, so like me, some help is she n order!
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407966/untitled
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Re: PESO - Vines

[Rick Womer]

Wine improves the soul.

Mustard improves the wine.

Therefore, mustard improves the soul.

Rick




> On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> It improves the soil as well!
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> Vineyard growers seed mustard. It improves the soul for the grape vines. 
>> Pretty too!
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Bob.
>>> 
>>> Aha, thanks for the mustard tip too. It grows naturally in California, BUT 
>>> it can be planted too (and comes back the following year). It is so 
>>> prevalent in vineyards I felt growers must encourage it.
>>> 
>>> Marnie aka Doe  And Napa used to have a Mustard Festival.
>>> 
 On 7/14/2017 4:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
 That's a lovely shot.
 
 Mustard protects against disease-causing nematodes, and enriches the soil.
 B
 
> On 14 Jul 2017, at 20:33, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:
> 
> Starting to process 2012 photos. For some odd reason, didn't take many 
> that year.
> 
> Nothing great, but I liked the patterns (and colors). It was taken in 
> bright sunlight.
> 
> Napa, California. I've never figured out why they let the vineyards all 
> go to mustard in the spring/early summer.
> 
> http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/vines.htm
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
>>> 
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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[ann sanfedele]

I ws comparing the initial photo to some of Charles Sheeler's stuff - is 
that where I lost you?
Yes, I prefer the initial one - the one you sent me as a jpg in email I 
found to be too light and not as dramatic


ann



On 7/14/2017 10:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Nothing to be proud of, but you lost me.:-)
So, you prefer the initial image?
Thanks!

J

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:02:40 AM
Subject: Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

I see that when I click on the photo that is against the blue background
I get the photo alone on a black background...
I didn't see the halos until you mentioned them in your off list note.
I like this image as it is better than your redo that you sent in email...
Just my personal preference regarding bw tones...

The artist and photographer I couldn't think of suddenly came to mind -
Charles Sheeler..

ann

On 7/14/2017 6:32 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Ann! No filter and I had the
same page color influence question.
Can't hook up any letters to your
"C" question.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I like that a lot - the structure and light -- though I tend to prefer colder 
tones in BW... not sure if darl blue of the page is making it look more
olivy in tone  --   I'm guessing you shot with a yellow or orange filter, yes?

It reminds me of an early 20th century painter whose name I can't drag out of 
my brain except his first name starts with a C  .. maybe a Charles someone.

ann



On 7/13/2017 1:11 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
Nice one, Jack.

Marnie aka Doe


On 7/13/2017 9:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of Nicholaus, CA
Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
Probably Tri-X.

C?

J

https://www.photo.net/photo/18407691

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Re: Edward S. Curtis Exhibit

[Mark C]

I was wondering because the old ferry took several hours to cross the 
lake - but the new express ferry does it in 2.5 hours. It probably works 
out to longer considering time to load the cars etc.


Muskegon is about 4 hours form Chicago and 3 hours from Detroit, doable 
as a day trip or overnight.


Mark



Rick Womer wrote:

"fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee”

Ummm… that’s 3 1/2 hours each way.

Remind me never to take a long ferry ride on your advice!

Cheers,

Rick



On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Stanley Halpin  wrote:

Thanks Mark!  I will do it.
And for those on the other side of Lake Michigan, note that Muskegon is a 
fairly short ferry ride from Milwaukee…

stan


On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Mark C  wrote:

I went to Muskegon Michigan today to see an exhibit of Edwin S Curtis's North 
American Indian prints. It was an excellent and massive exhibit, well worth a 
visit.  I doubt that many PDMLer's are nearby, but in case anyone is passing 
that way...

All 723 of Curtis' prints were on display - the full set. The museum believes 
this is the first time the entire set has been displayed. I wondered how a 
fairly small museum got this exhibit and where it would go next. As it turns 
out the Muskegon public library was one of the 200+ subscribers to the original 
project and received the books and photogravure prints as they were published. 
A docent told me that at this time there were no plans to travel the show.

My only complaint - 723 prints plus supplemental displays is a bit overwhelming 
- I plan another visit or two over the summer.

Here are a few cell phone snaps of some of the exhibits:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/edward-s-curtis-exhibit?blog=9

And the museums webpage:

http://www.muskegonartmuseum.org/exhibition/edward-s-curtis-north-american-indian/




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PESO: Mysterious Blue

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Our landscaper planted this perennial among the echinacea for a bit of
variety,
Unfortunately, I can't remember its name, so I just call it a daisy.
In any event, I love the delicate blooms:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/7/15/blue
K-5 IIs, FA 100mm F2.8 macro
Comments and criticisms are welcome.
Any help in plant identification greatly appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for clarification. Also nice
to learn we agree as to which is
the preferred image.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:49 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I ws comparing the initial photo to some of Charles Sheeler's stuff - is that 
> where I lost you?
> Yes, I prefer the initial one - the one you sent me as a jpg in email I found 
> to be too light and not as dramatic
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/14/2017 10:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing to be proud of, but you lost me.:-)
>> So, you prefer the initial image?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ann sanfedele" 
>> To: "PDML" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:02:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill
>> 
>> I see that when I click on the photo that is against the blue background
>> I get the photo alone on a black background...
>> I didn't see the halos until you mentioned them in your off list note.
>> I like this image as it is better than your redo that you sent in email...
>> Just my personal preference regarding bw tones...
>> 
>> The artist and photographer I couldn't think of suddenly came to mind -
>> Charles Sheeler..
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 7/14/2017 6:32 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> Thanks, Ann! No filter and I had the
>>> same page color influence question.
>>> Can't hook up any letters to your
>>> "C" question.
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 
 I like that a lot - the structure and light -- though I tend to prefer 
 colder tones in BW... not sure if darl blue of the page is making it look 
 more
 olivy in tone  --   I'm guessing you shot with a yellow or orange filter, 
 yes?
 
 It reminds me of an early 20th century painter whose name I can't drag out 
 of my brain except his first name starts with a C  .. maybe a Charles 
 someone.
 
 ann
 
 
> On 7/13/2017 1:11 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
> Nice one, Jack.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe
> 
>> On 7/13/2017 9:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of 
>> Nicholaus, CA
>> Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
>> Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
>> Probably Tri-X.
>> 
>> C?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407691
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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[David J Brooks]

nice line work and texture here

Dave

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of Nicholaus, 
> CA
> Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
> Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
> Probably Tri-X.
>
> C?
>
> J
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407691
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Re: Peso-Nicholaus Mill

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Ann! No filter and I had the
same page color influence question.
Can't hook up any letters to your
"C" question.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I like that a lot - the structure and light -- though I tend to prefer colder 
> tones in BW... not sure if darl blue of the page is making it look more
> olivy in tone  --   I'm guessing you shot with a yellow or orange filter, yes?
> 
> It reminds me of an early 20th century painter whose name I can't drag out of 
> my brain except his first name starts with a C  .. maybe a Charles someone.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 7/13/2017 1:11 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
>> Nice one, Jack.
>> 
>> Marnie aka Doe
>> 
>>> On 7/13/2017 9:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> Defunct mill located (may still be) in the tiny cross road town of 
>>> Nicholaus, CA
>>> Last I saw it, nature had made some serious uncomplimentary changes.
>>> Shot with the Mamiya 6/75mm lens.
>>> Probably Tri-X.
>>> 
>>> C?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18407691
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