Re: lens brightness

2001-09-25 Thread Martin Trautmann
On Mon 2001-09-24 (09:19), Shel Belinkoff wrote: Martin Trautmann wrote: Real numbers are not required: If it's not enough light, the exposure meter will double your time, whether the selected aperture is called 2.8 or 3.5, whether it is a faked or real number, as long as you do need

Grip BG-10 amd NiMH batteries

2001-09-25 Thread Paul Jones
Hi, I jusr received my Grip BG-10 and remote cable release. The battery grip has a switch for Lithium or normal batteries. What should i set it to if i'm using NiMH batteries? Thanks, Paul Jones - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-25 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotes: The f number of the lens equals the focal length divided by the diameter of the entrance pupil of the aperture. ...and it's important to note, that the entrance pupil is _not_ the physical front element of the lens (although with long focal lengths (and

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Norman Baugher
What? Darkroom, digital darkroom, what's the difference? errr Norm Shel Belinkoff wrote: Plus, any manipulation of the image that appears on the screen has not been done via the manipulation of light, such as dodging or burning, but rather by manipulating pixels through computer technology.

Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mick ... I think we all agree that for static subjects the idea works well. But the real question (for me) is how Mark uses a digital camera to prep a shot of something that's dynamic, and which may move or disappear in a fraction of a second. Perhaps he doesn't ... I don't know, and only Mark

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
William Robb wrote: For myself, if the picture is created by silver imaging, it is a photograph, if it is created by electronic capture, it is an image. This is just how I keep things straight in my mind. And that's pretty much the way I see it, although now many photographs (in the sense of

RE: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Rob Brigham
Yep, in order to guage how good the piece was, he had to look around at the audience to see their reaction. Must have been pretty nerve wracking! -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 13:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digicams

OT: Hinky (was - Super Program/A problems)

2001-09-25 Thread W Keith Mosier
Naw, he got Hinky from the movie The Fugitive. One of the Marshal Service deputies says Hinky describing the fugitive, and Tommy Lee Jones character asks the deputy the meaning of hinky and tells him not to use words that have no meaning around him. Unfortunately I didn't recognize a Pentax

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Norman Baugher Subject: Re: Images or Photographs What? Darkroom, digital darkroom, what's the difference? errr Norm Careful folks, its a trollG WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow

RE: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Skofteland, Christian
-Original Message- From: Mick Maguire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My two cents worth: In a recent edition of Outdoor Photographer there was a pro landscape photographer (sorry I don't remember his name) who used a digital camera to compose / try shots before getting all his

The Olympus Varimagnifinder

2001-09-25 Thread Camdir
So I had a little spare time checked this out. It fits perfectly to MX, Super A/Super program, and LX FA1etc. The finder image is reversed. The 2.5x magnification is genuinely useful for fine focus. The v/finder LCD display is not visible with Super A etc. So there you have it. Kind

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Richard Klein
The word photograph suggests to me a picture (image!) made via a light-sensitive process. Film is light sensitive. CCDs are light sensitive, but are the phosphors on a monitor? They glow because of non-visible radiation, right? Printer paper certainly isn't light-sensitive (ignoring the

Re: Hinky (was - Super Program/A problems)

2001-09-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: W Keith Mosier Subject: OT: Hinky (was - Super Program/A problems) Naw, he got Hinky from the movie The Fugitive. One of the Marshal Service deputies says Hinky describing the fugitive, and Tommy Lee Jones character asks the deputy the meaning of hinky and

Re: Reply Part III: Confessions of an old timer

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Len Paris wrote: Wow! The ink cartidges must be huge! Gallon-sized? Nah, not /that/ big. I'd guesstimate that they're about 500mL each. There are six individual cartridges, and they retail for about $100 Canadian per cart. If you want to make a print that's 100 feet long, it's best to

This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Johnston
I don't usually go for stuff like this, but this is really a bizarre coincidence. --Mike The first plane to hit the WTC was Flight Q33NY 1. Open up WORD, as if beginning a new document... 2. Type, using capital letters, Q33NY... 3. Highlight it... 4. Enlarge the font size to 48... 5.

RE: OT - digital to slide conversion

2001-09-25 Thread W Keith Mosier
Thanks, to those who responded to my question about the digital image to transparency situation. Several good suggestions. Out local high quality digital lab doesn't offer the service because the quality is usually very poor even with a ultra high resolution file. The tech recommended copying

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Jeff wrote: Hinky? Pooched? Wow, and I thought my Canadian was odd. Whassamatter, doncha unnerstan it? -Parking Lot Willie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users'

Re: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Norman Baugher
I think you've been had Mike. The first flight was American Airlines flight 11? Norm Mike Johnston wrote: I don't usually go for stuff like this, but this is really a bizarre coincidence. --Mike The first plane to hit the WTC was Flight Q33NY 1. Open up WORD, as if beginning a new

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-25 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Theatrical motion pictures are shot on negative film. For other uses transparency film was often used, but today is pretty much replaced by video tape. The point I was making was that with two rapidly changing slide images one can see a 1/10 stop difference in exposure. My point is valid! Your

Re: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Ralf Stubner
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first plane to hit the WTC was Flight Q33NY [...] This is: 1) Meanwhile rather old. 2) Wrong, search for 'Q33NY' and 'hoax' with your prefered search engine or see URL:http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blwingdings.htm. cheerio ralf --

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seems to me that images is a superset of {photographs, paintings, holograms, stills from video, photos that have been digitally manipulated, etchings, drawings, digitally-created pictures, scenes frozen in slowglass (okay, that doesn't exist yet), and even

RE: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Skofteland, Christian
see http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/wingding.htm Christian Skofteland System Administrator ServerVault Inc. -Original Message- From: Norman Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This is too weird I think

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shel Belinkoff quipped: And, if I were to use finger paints to make a picture, would that be a digital image? Why yes, yes it would. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the

RE: Hinky (was - Super Program/A problems)

2001-09-25 Thread Richard Klein
Was the carburetor hinky, or just acting hinky? -Rich William Robb wrote: I was quite surprised to hear that word used in the fugitive. I picked the term up from a member of the Kings Crew Motorcycle club (now a chaper of the Hell's Angels I believe) about twenty years ago. He used

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Hey, what's all this talk about images? For more than a century the pictures we've taken with our cameras have been called photographs, or photos. Of late, images have been used to describe or define our pictures. When did this happen, and why? Is this some newspeak resulting from digital

Alleged coincidence....

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Johnston
Oops, spoke too soon. I hate it when I do that: http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/wingding.htm#penn Sorry! Carry on. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Now, if I used my LX and some Supra 400 to photograph the digital image that I created with finger paints, I'd have a photo of a digital image. Then, if I scanned the photograph, or the negative, would I then have a digital image of a photograph of a digital image? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check out http://www.snopes.com/ (particularly http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/wingding.htm where, at the bottom, it says, The last coincidence is strictly a manufactured one. Although typing the characters Q33NY using the Wingdings font does produce the string of images

Re: Grip BG-10 amd NiMH batteries

2001-09-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
I vaguely remember someone saying that you shouldn't use NiMH batteries. Only Alkaline or Lithium. You get a lot of rolls out of a set of Alkalines. I'm wondering why you feel the need for NiMH? I have been just fine with alkalines even though I use NiMH in my AF500FTZ flash. Bruce Dayton

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Richard Klein wrote: The word photograph suggests to me a picture (image!) made via a light-sensitive process. Film is light sensitive. CCDs are light sensitive, but are the phosphors on a monitor? Oh, please, asking if the phosphors on the monitor are lights sensitive is like asking if

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'd argue just the opposite since a photograph is painting with light and a screen image is painting with pixels. Why not change that to 'painting with clumps of silver' vs. 'painting with pixels'? If there were no light involved, you wouldn't be able to see the image

Re: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
My favorite of the recent urban legends is the Nostradamus prophecy that was actually written by a Canadian student in the early 1990s. (It's also on snopes.com) There are two schools of thought on Nostradamus: either (1) he had supernatural powers which enabled him to prophesy the future with

For the engineers and hobbyists among us

2001-09-25 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://24.0.232.44/cunningham/Tech/Shutter/ShutterTest.html I'm going to do this in the next few weeks as well. Looks fun and useful. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Mick Maguire
From Mirriam-Webster... Main Entry: 1pho.to.graph Pronunciation: 'fO-t-graf Function: noun Date: 1839 : a picture or likeness obtained by photography Main Entry: pho.tog.ra.phy Pronunciation: f-'ta-gr-fE Function: noun Date: 1839 : the art or process of producing images on a sensitized surface

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Robert Wetmore
Are you saying that the image files themselves are the reproductions, or the actual image when viewed on the screeen is a reproduction? I'd argue that the files may be reproductions of photographs, but that the screen image is a photograph in its own right. [Chris Brogden] The screen image

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Mick Maguire
and just to round it off: Main Entry: 1im.age Pronunciation: 'i-mij Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, short for imagene, from Latin imagin-, imago; perhaps akin to Latin imitari to imitate Date: 13th century 1 : a reproduction or imitation of the form of a person or

AF360FTZ flash

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Cassino
A while back I thought someone posted that one US store has this flash in stock. I haven't seen it listed at the normal places I look - BH, Adorama, Camerawold. Is this unit available yet? If so... where? Thanks MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - -

Re: constant aperture zooms

2001-09-25 Thread UDPug
Thanks to Nicholas and William for your explanations. Makes a little more sense now. ;-) Phyllis T - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org

Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Cassino
At 05:23 AM 9/25/01 -0700, you wrote: Mark Cassino wrote: Right on that. Traditional photography is like trying to learn the piano without hearing what you play. It would be like paying a piece, sending in a tape, and a day or so later finally hearing it. I also set and prep the

Re: 360fgz flash

2001-09-25 Thread TerryMDanger
Flash is advertised at Ritz for 279.. Who makes the fastest, rectilinear, K-mount (or adaptable to K-mount) lens in the 15mm - 21mm or so range? Who makes the fastest one for an SLR regardless of mount? Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread LEDMRVM
In a message dated 9/25/2001 1:45:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed Matthew wrote: Mostly I don't care what term others use -- except for my irrational and intense dislike of the half-word pic. That one I can stand despite a certain cheese-factor when

Re: Hinky (was - Super Program/A problems)

2001-09-25 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Hinky (was - Super Program/A problems) William Robb wrote: I was quite surprised to hear that word used in the fugitive. I picked the term up

RE: Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread John Francis
From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:25:09 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I can't help but think of early Celts who painted designs on their body with woad before going into battle.) You mean like Seven Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered

OT: Nostradamus (was: Re: This is too weird)

2001-09-25 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Believe it or not... Some years ago I saw a documentary movie about Nostradamus: one of the prophecies (at least the interpretation of the prophecy) stated that around the end of the XX century a NEW city should have been destroyed by a man with a turban (or a similar headgear)... I still

Re: Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
Welcome back, John. How was the trip? Did the MZ-S perform as you'd hoped? Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: RE: Re: Images or Photographs From: Doug

Re: Please critique me!!!

2001-09-25 Thread Juan J. Buhler
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just left two pics in Photocritique.net Please go and let me know what you think Regards and thanks Hey Albano: Here's the first critique: I think a URL would help. :-) j --

RE: OT: Nostradamus (was: Re:= 20This is too weird)

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Don't be concerned about it. A lot of Nostradamus's writing, besides being ambiguous in the extreme, has been the subjected to some exccedingly helpful translations into other languages (with, of course, the benefit of 20/20 hindsight). Then it get passed on orally with the attendant alterations

RE: Images or Photographs -- reeeeally long.....

2001-09-25 Thread John Francis
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] . . . I no longer have any cameras or lenses so it's a moot point. I know I've been away for a while; did I miss something? -- John Francis . . . . . . . . . . (650) 429-4427 MyWay.com 444 Castro St. Suite 101,

New galleries

2001-09-25 Thread Juan J. Buhler
Hi, I put up three new galleries in my site. http://www.jbuhler.com/html/911.html http://www.jbuhler.com/html/fest.html http://www.jbuhler.com/html/cal.html Comments are appreciated and cherished. I also edited out a lot of stuff from the site, and redid the way the photos/pictures/images are

RE: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread David A. Mann
Christian Skofteland writes: John Shaw says the he often uses a view camera to shoot landscapes because it forces him to slow down and carefully compose before tripping the shutter. I find the same thing using a 6x7. I've noticed that it is just not practical in some situations, like when

Re: SURPRISE! (was: Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post)

2001-09-25 Thread Bill Owens
Must be that same alien intervention that caused the streaks on my recent roll of Delta 400 Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] This has nothing really to do with this thread, but everything to do with being surprised. Some time ago I developed a roll of Tri-X, and was astounded to find the

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Richard Klein
Yeah, OK, we're not disagreeing then. The current Ansel Adams prints are not photographs, but they are reproductions of his original photographs. He committed them to film way back when, right? But you wouldn't get the prints from the lab in a coffee table book; you'd get a mass-produced

Re: Fastest Super Wide Angle lens

2001-09-25 Thread Len Paris
There is a 14mm f/2.8 rectilinear Tamron that is excellent, but pretty expensive. See BH and Adorama for pricing. Len --- - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:10 PM Subject: Fastest Super Wide

Re: Nostradamus (was: Re: This is too weird)

2001-09-25 Thread Martin Corro
Here you have the complete prophecies: http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/titan.htm#COMPROPH HTH Martin -Original Message- From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:18 PM Subject: OT: Nostradamus (was: Re: This is

RE: Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread John Francis
-Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Images or Photographs Welcome back, John. How was the trip? Far too short - I could easily have used another six weeks! I didn't

Re: Fastest Super Wide Angle lens

2001-09-25 Thread Andreas Wirtz
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who makes the fastest, rectilinear, K-mount (or adaptable to K-mount) lens in the 15mm - 21mm or so range? Who makes the fastest one for an SLR regardless of mount? Thanks! -- Sigma EX 20/1.8 Andreas Wirtz - This message is from the

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ed Matthew quipped: In a message dated 9/25/2001 1:45:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed Matthew wrote: Mostly I don't care what term others use -- except for my irrational and intense dislike of the half-word pic. That one I can stand despite a certain

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-25 Thread arkibladt
Hi William, Jeff, John, Bob, Frank... Thanks for the answers - and the entertaining lesson in english. I will try to fix the shutter button. I think it may have been pooched in my LowePro minitrecker, which I use for Hillwalking, while lieing upside down in the boot of the car! PS: My

67 Lenses

2001-09-25 Thread Bob Rapp
I know that there was a loss of optical quality when the K series lenses were replaced by the M series. Does the same apply to the 67 Takumar and SMC Pentax lenses? Regards, Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Richard Klein wrote: Yeah, OK, we're not disagreeing then. The current Ansel Adams prints are not photographs, but they are reproductions of his original photographs. He committed them to film way back when, right? But you wouldn't get the prints from the lab in a coffee table book;

Re[2]: Images or Photographs -- reeeeally long.....

2001-09-25 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Tuesday, September 25, 2001, 9:17:16 PM, you wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] . . . I no longer have any cameras or lenses so it's a moot point. I know I've been away for a while; did I miss something? Not much really. Shel has renounced Satan and all his

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Frank Theriault
Bingo! Thanks, Mark. As I was reading through Shel's original post, and subsequent responses, I was composing a response mentally, that would have been quite lengthy. But I think you summed up what I was gonna say in one succinct sentence. regards, frank Mark Roberts wrote: Calling

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Frank Theriault
...which reminds me, I'm having Kraft Dinner for supper tonight (ah, the life of a bachelor!) - that's pasta too, right? -frank Mark Roberts wrote: Calling photographs images is like calling spaghetti pasta. It's new and trendy, but not inaccurate. The former term is a subset of the latter.

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Aaron Reynolds wrote: ...and, a slide projector emits light. Are projected slides not photographs? The slides are, but the projection isn't - it's a projected image. ...so, when making a print in an enlarger, the print is made from an image projected onto the

Re: Images or Photographs -- reeeeally long.....

2001-09-25 Thread Frank Theriault
Hi, Shel, So, you have crayons too? I know you have a pen (a Parker, no?). :-) -regards, frank Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think it's time for my crayons and coloring book LOL -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Bill Owens
Us too! Wife's working so #1 son and I are having roast beef with Kraft MC. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...which reminds me, I'm having Kraft Dinner for supper tonight (ah, the life of a bachelor!) - that's pasta too, right? -frank Mark Roberts wrote: Calling photographs images

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Frank Theriault wrote: ...which reminds me, I'm having Kraft Dinner for supper tonight (ah, the life of a bachelor!) - that's pasta too, right? For all you non-Canadians, that's macaroni and cheese that comes in a box. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To

Re: Fastest Super Wide Angle lens

2001-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Len, but 2.8 is too slow. Pentax has a 20/2.8 that's far less expensive, albeit not as wide, but still wide enough for my needs. Len Paris wrote: There is a 14mm f/2.8 rectilinear Tamron that is excellent, but pretty expensive. See BH and Adorama for pricing. -- Shel Belinkoff

Re: Fastest Super Wide Angle lens

2001-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Andreas ... On paper it looks OK, although it's got that dreaded autofocus. Do you know anything more about it than what's on the Sigma web site? There's no mention that I could find wrt size, construction, or whether or not it contains plastic elements. Andreas Wirtz wrote: Who

Darth Vader meets Princess Bride is back

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Johnston
John F. wrote: Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your Father. Prepare to die. Hey! Darth Vader meets Princess Bride is back! Hi, John. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit

What you really missed

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Johnston
John F. wrote: I know I've been away for a while; did I miss something? We've all gone digital. To a man (and woman). No dissenters. Except Shel naturally. --Mike, who never* kids *well, sometimes* *okay, OFTEN then* *he gets testy sometimes, too - This

Re: Fastest Super Wide Angle lens

2001-09-25 Thread Bob Rapp
I would think that wide open lens performance and flatness of field would be as important at speed. Thanks, Len, but 2.8 is too slow. Pentax has a 20/2.8 that's far less expensive, albeit not as wide, but still wide enough for my needs. -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the

Re: 67 Lenses

2001-09-25 Thread Alan Chan
I know that there was a loss of optical quality when the K series lenses were replaced by the M series. Is this a myth? regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message

Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Cassino
At 08:15 AM 9/25/01 -0500, Maris wrote: Good point, Shel. Plus the digital camera and 35mm will each operate uniquely and identical settings may not result in identical images anyway, and using appropriate differing settings puts you back to square one - taking the 35mm image alone. This is

Re: October PUG

2001-09-25 Thread Rodger Whitlock
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 08:47:41 -0400, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Cesar scribes]...Well at least I remembered to take the equinox picture for December. Damn! I missed the December Pug. Number one son had me new car shopping with him at the time. I did make October and

Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Cassino
At 06:31 AM 9/25/01 -0700, Shel wrote: Ahh ... I see the word learn in Mark's post, which makes your point, although I do believe Mark is a pretty good photographer, so I overlooked his need to learn. We all need to keep learning, Shel :-) - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI

Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Glenn wrote: Ed M wrote: Mostly I don't care what term others use -- except for my irrational and intense dislike of the half-word pic. It's when they spell it pict that it really bugs me. (I can't help but think of early Celts who painted designs on their body with woad before

Re: Grip BG-10 amd NiMH batteries

2001-09-25 Thread Paul Jones
Hi, I didnt realise that NiMH batteries didnt have aslonger shelf life, i used them in my MZ-5n and probaly got around 25rolls over 2 months or so before i rechargged them, i recharged not because they had run out, just because i thought they might. After both the replies i got i probaly will

Re: SURPRISE! (was: Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post)

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Yes, and the same alien intervention that keeps making money disappear from my bank account only to reappear in Pentax's. Damned aliens! BTW: I'm off to visit my parents in Georgia this weekend and plan on giving the MZ-S a thorough workout. Full report later. Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Paul M. Provencher
H... Back when I was getting brainwas- er um, a formal education in photography (1974~) our instructor drilled us mercilessly to always say make images and not the more common take pictures. It was an attempt to teach us subliminal marketing. (images made must be worth more than pictures

RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
I considered those as photographs. I am finding here in U.S. they call it pictures. I feel image is digital terminalogy. From: Matamoros, Cesar A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Images or Photographs Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001

Re: Fastest Super Wide Angle lens

2001-09-25 Thread Len Paris
OK, I thought that you were shooting for widest, fastest, rectilinear. There are no faster, or wider, rectilinears that I know about. I can't afford one either. :) Len --- - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25,

Re: What you really missed

2001-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mike Johnston wrote: We've all gone digital. To a man (and woman). No dissenters. Except Shel naturally. Yeah, I've taken up cave painting. There's something very rewarding about using alder branches to apply freshly ground and mixed ochre to the rough walls of a cave. I've had the power

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Photodane Subject: Re: Super Program/A problems Hi William, Jeff, John, Bob, Frank... Thanks for the answers - and the entertaining lesson in english. If you can't fix it, it's toast!! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To

Re: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
This is a hoax not a 'bizarre coincidence'. - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: This is too weird I don't usually go for stuff like this, but this is really a bizarre coincidence.

Re: 67 Lenses

2001-09-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Rapp Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: 67 Lenses I know that there was a loss of optical quality when the K series lenses were replaced by the M series. Does the same apply to the 67 Takumar and SMC Pentax lenses? No. Except for

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-25 Thread Anthony Farr
Kinda slams the door in the face of anyone not using ~your~ preferred method, eh? Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 11:04 PM Subject: RE: lens brightness Unless you set the aperture

Re: 67 Lenses

2001-09-25 Thread Juan J. Buhler
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that there was a loss of optical quality when the K series lenses were replaced by the M series. Is this a myth? I can say that the K28/3.5 is better than the M28/2.8. Yes, but the M28/3.5 is superb. Is it different from the K?

Re: Hinky

2001-09-25 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I just gotta move to Canada! :) Collin Aaron asked: Did he beat you up or loan you his woman afterwards? ;) He bought me a beer and introduced me to his sister. William Robb * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the

Re: 67 Lenses

2001-09-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:43 PM Subject: Re: 67 Lenses On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that there was a loss of optical quality when the K series lenses were replaced

UBERdigicam

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Johnston
I suppose everybody's seen this, but in case you haven't, big news: Canon has just released its latest version of the full-dress pro EOS-1... The EOS-1D digital. Stand back! It's also got a new 16-35mm, which corresponds to a 21-45mm on 35mm. Check out the preview on dpreview.com . Awesome

Got a bargain today,

2001-09-25 Thread Paul Jones
Hi, Just went to my local Cash Convertors (chain of pawn shops) and they had a Spotmatic SP with a Super Tak 50/1.4 all for the princely sum of $45au ($25us). The body is in pretty good shape, with no dings or dints and the lense has no signs of yellowing. Quite a productive lunch break :)

Re: UBERdigicam

2001-09-25 Thread Jeff
The lens is actually a 16-35mm on a 35mm camera, but it has an angle of view equivalent to a 21-45mm lens on the EOS-1D. Jeff - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: UBERdigicam I suppose

UBERdigicam

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Johnston
The Uberdigicam (Canon EOS-1D) will shoot 16 pictures (RAW mode) or 21 pictures (JPEG mode) at 8 fps. It will also record RAW and JPEG files _simultaneously_. Its ISO equivalents are 200-1600, with 100 and 3200 available as custom settings. The flash sync is 1/500th. The new 16-35 has a rubber

Forwarded message from annsan

2001-09-25 Thread William Robb
Ann Sanfedele wrote: I'm overwhelmed with chores before I leave next tuesday If anyone wants to contact me between now and my return to NY at the end of November please do two things Make sure you are replying to me and not the list (in case there are some folk wanting to comment on something

Re: UBERdigicam

2001-09-25 Thread Paul Jones
Any price on it? Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: UBERdigicam The Uberdigicam (Canon EOS-1D) will shoot 16 pictures (RAW mode) or 21 pictures (JPEG mode) at 8 fps.

Re: UBERdigicam

2001-09-25 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Paul Jones wrote: Any price on it? IIRC, the suggested retail price was around $7000 US, but my Canon rep said that he expects it to sell for roughly $7000 CAN, give or take a fair bit. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: UBERdigicam

2001-09-25 Thread Jeff
Camera 7K US Lens 2K US Jeff - Original Message - From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: UBERdigicam Any price on it? Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post

2001-09-25 Thread Conrad Samuels
Shel Belinkoff wrote: A very interesting comment, Mark, and one I don't understand. First, how can you prep a shot with one camera and then make a second keeper with anything but a static subject. IOW, if you're shooting a living, breathing entity, the second shot will not be the same as