Re: PAW: My first *istD stuff...

2004-11-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Boris,

First let me say that I am a succor for the layered mountain thing.
On that count, I love it.  The foreground trees offset it nicely.  I
would be curious as to what the color version looked like.  It might
give me more ideas about how things went for your first round with the
camera.  The picture does seem just a tad soft but that could easily
be how you processed it.

Thanks for sharing.

Bruce


Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 8:33:16 PM, you wrote:

BL Hi!

BL http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/50999

BL What do you say?





Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-10 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 01:00:39PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
 Hmmm...That is all there is.  Having been there several times, there
 is nothing out there beyond what you see.  I see the sun shafts out on
 the horizon and that resolves the image for me.  I think it is more of
 a mood shot rather than a picture of a very specific subject that
 leaps out at you.
 
 Thanks for the comments.
 
 Bruce

I'm still trying to formulate just what it is about this shot that
bothers me.  I can't put a finger on it; every individual component
from the composition to the colours to the overall feeling seems fine.

I suspect that it's basically too small an image (in pixel dimensions)
for the amount of detail in the shot - perhaps a slightly larger
presentation would work better.  It would certainly show off the
pleasing far light effects on the clouds to advantage.



RE: Northern Lights

2004-11-10 Thread Ronald Arvidsson
Hi,
Welcome to the tricky world of Aurora photography. I beleive you are 
facing several obstacles - to overcome of course.

1. Are you doing film or digital?
   For film there is the reciprocity factor which means that exposure 
must be increased at long exposre times - not so severe with some modern 
films. I don't know if digital faces this problem - maybe not - if so 
shorter exposure time for digital.

2. Aurora varies a lot in intensity - if possible meter it and use that 
exposure and again double the time - you need varied exposures tpo 
really get it right. Its tricky with the dark sky and the bright Aurora

3. Dress warmly - as Aurora in the the north is usually seen on cold 
nights. Might be a problem for digital cameras with lcd screens.

4. I prefer slower films as the faster films might not give you a dark 
blue sky but a black one. However - experiment with this.

Good luck,
Chilly photos,
Ronald


Re: PAW: My first *istD stuff...

2004-11-10 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Boris Liberman wrote on 10.11.04 5:33:

 Hi!
 
 http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/50999
 
 What do you say?
Hi Boris,
I'd say it's a great stuff :-) Beautiful mountain view gradation, from
black, to almost white, overall smoothness adds for mood. Really nicely
done!

-- 
Pozdrowienia
Sylwek




Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-10 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have
been
  problems reported with the *ist-d.

 Hi Peter

 Ever tried the MZ-3 ZX-5n with the AF400FTZ, would you care to
comment on
 performance?

John,

According to my experience, the performance is almost perfect,
although I do prefer to use the 400FTZ on the Z-1p, for a matter
of balance and the easier flash compensation. I do prefer to
shot in manual mode and leave a -1 compensation when I use the
MZ-3 or MZ-5n.
To be honest, I've never experienced poor TTL flash behaviour
with any Pentax body/flash, except maybe the Z-50p and its built
in flash coupled with screwmount modified lenses (non Pentax
lenses, btw). Even the *istD works well, no matter the Iso
chosen. The only problems occur when I forget to modify a wrong
setting (i.e., when I, while shooting at say 6m, decide to shot
something at less than 1m with the lens still wide open...)
Everything works fine as long asyou stay within the range of the
setup.
I do prefer the Pentax TTL flash to the Nikon system (which I
used a lot) for almost every situation.

Ciao,

Gianfranco


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Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/panorama.jpg

Works for me. A pleasant setting. Where's the boats ? ;-)




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Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-10 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have given up on using the istD with TTL flash.
   It is totally useless in this regard.

 Out of curiosity, even with the P-TTL (preflash) ?

 I found that preflash TTL does decent results with digital,
and I saw
 some nice ones from Gianfranco's new 360FGZ (just few frames
when you
 bought the flash here, how is it working for you, Gianfranco?)

Hi Frantisek,

I'm not experiencing any problem with the FGZ, either in normal
or in wireless mode. I can say that I'm quite happy with the
combo, and really don't understand how comes that so many people
here have problems. Well, sometimes I had overexposure with the
AF400FTZ in some situation, but I shoot an entire wedding with
it and it was enough to put a -1,5 compensation for all the
shots...
I can post you few recent pictures taken with the 360FGZ, so you
can see by yourself the performance.

 Only gripe I have with pre-flash is that (especially if using
a
 wireless i-TTL or perhaps also the P-TTL wirelessly) there is
a not
 insignificant lag needed for the flashes to communicate. It
can be a
 nuisance if shooting fast people or something.

Yup, I too find that annoying. I prefer the normal TTL to avoid
the too often closed eyes of the subjects...

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's about a year now since I got my *ist-D, so I decided to go back
to the park where I did my first trial shots and try something else.

I don't have any panorama stitching software, so I haven't yet been
able to correct for the slight barrel distortion in the lens (which
was the original FA 28-105), nor convert to a true cylindrical view.
But I like what I've got so far enough to keep working on it.

http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/panorama.jpg


Mary Mother of God. Did you say Lake Vasona??  Is that the Lake Vasona
near San Jose?

If so, I sailed a Laser on there once, about 1975





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Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Giao

That all sounds very reassuring, I think I might just look into getting the 
AF400FTZ

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:34:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

 John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have
 been
   problems reported with the *ist-d.
 
  Hi Peter
 
  Ever tried the MZ-3 ZX-5n with the AF400FTZ, would you care to
 comment on
  performance?
 
 John,
 
 According to my experience, the performance is almost perfect,
 although I do prefer to use the 400FTZ on the Z-1p, for a matter
 of balance and the easier flash compensation. I do prefer to
 shot in manual mode and leave a -1 compensation when I use the
 MZ-3 or MZ-5n.
 To be honest, I've never experienced poor TTL flash behaviour
 with any Pentax body/flash, except maybe the Z-50p and its built
 in flash coupled with screwmount modified lenses (non Pentax
 lenses, btw). Even the *istD works well, no matter the Iso
 chosen. The only problems occur when I forget to modify a wrong
 setting (i.e., when I, while shooting at say 6m, decide to shot
 something at less than 1m with the lens still wide open...)
 Everything works fine as long asyou stay within the range of the
 setup.
 I do prefer the Pentax TTL flash to the Nikon system (which I
 used a lot) for almost every situation.
 
 Ciao,
 
 Gianfranco
 
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Re: Evil! EVIL! EEEVIL!

2004-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! Wheatfield (soon to be Snowfield) Willie 
was right!

I just HAD to get another lens!

165/2.8 for the 67 off ebay for US$247.52. I'm feeling so thrilled and 
ashamed at the same time!

Let me know how that 165/2.8 works on the 645...

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: *ist DS

2004-11-10 Thread Fred Widall
I read somewhere that November 19th is the realease date here in Canada,
with a list price of CAD$1399 for *ist DS and 18-55mm lens.

Its on my Xmas shopping list. The best deal I've found so far is with
Simons Cameras of Montreal. A total of CAD$1578 for *ist DS, 18-55mm lens,
1GB SD card, including taxes and shipping.

I'm busy selling off my weird and wonderful book collection on ebay to
raise some money towards it, and I just got an unexpected bonus at work,
so I'm just about ready to buy.

--
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 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
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Re: Pentax 80-200 FA* Opinions

2004-11-10 Thread Larry Cook

Larry Cook mused:
I have recently posted a query about 80-200 f2.8 zooms in general and 
after receiving opinions here and elsewhere I would like to know more 
about the Pentax 80-200 FA* specifically from actual owners/users of 
that lens, especially when married to a *istD. I have narrowed my search 
to the Pentax and the Sigma 70-200. I have heard nice things about both 
but I have also heard some less than favorable things about the Pentax 
(as well as teh Sigma). So before I launch off into a search for a 
suitable speciman and its most likely equally suitable price I would 
like to see if it is worth searching for given what I intend to shoot 
with it. I intend to shoot mainly my son's high school soccer, so I need 
something that has a rather quick AF. I have heard that the Pentax AF is 
both slow and fast and that it is both one of the best and not one of 
the best optically. It is also apparently heavy and the tripod moumt is 
flimsy. What is the actual truth? How is the AF performance? Is it a 
great optical speciman or just mediocre? It is heavy, oh well, I have a 
monpod and currently use it with the two Tokina ATX MF zooms that I 
have, so no big deal there. How is the construction? Is the tripod mount 
really flimsy? Anything else of note? Is it worth pursuing given the 
possible $500 premium over and above the Sigma lens?

I appreciate any reponses both good and bad because it is information 
that I seek,

1)  It's heavy.
2)  It's *heavy*
3)  It's HEAVY.
4)  Although it's not as heavy as a 300/2.8, let alone the 250-600/5.6
   I use mine without a monopod, but after an hour or two my arms
   complain every time I lift the thing to shooting position.
The tripod mount isn't flimsy; you can use it to break rocks with :-)
I find the AF performance perfectly acceptable, and have no complaints
about the optical performance of the lens.  There's some degree of
light fall-off in the corners, especially wide open, but I haven't seen 
an 80-200/2.8 where this isn't the case.  I've used mine with a PZ-1p,
an MZ-S, and the *ist-D.  I shoot primarily motorsports (a fast action
sport), and have found the AF performance fast enough.  I rarely use
full-auto AF, though; I manually select the auto-focus point (this is
one of the reasons why I prefer the *ist-D to the earlier cameras;
a wider choice of AF points suits my shooting style much better).

With the full-frame cameras I sometimes found 200mm wasn't quite long
enough; the extra crop factor of the smaller sensor means that I can
sometimes get away with just the 80-200.  That will also work to your
advantage when shooting soccer.
Where, physically, are you located?   There are a couple of us on
the list that have the 80-200, and PDML members are a friendly bunch;
I've been able to test out lenses courtesy of other list members.
As for being worth the $500 premium; that's a question for you to
decide.  That difference would buy you a DA 16-45, for one thing.
 


John,
Thanks very much for the response. That is exactly the type of response 
I was seeking.

I assumed that it was heavy at 1510g but the two lenses I currently use, 
Tokina ATX 100-300 f4 and ATX 80-200 f2.8 (both MF) are heavy 
themselves. The 300, I always use the monopod with but I have taken to 
handholding the 200. I haven't weighed either but the new ATX 80-200 is 
around 1300g so I'm betting the ones I have are that or heavier, most 
likely the latter. So that actually didn't concern me greatly. Though 
lighter would be easier on my aging back and shoulders and arms and 
feet...oh well...Of course the Sigma 70-200 which I am considering is 
1200-1300g, so while lighter, it is no featherweight but lighter is 
lighter...

I am glad to hear that he tripod mount is solid. When I read about the 
mount previously, I was surprised to see it described in that way 
considering the type of lens this is. So I wanted first hand knowledge 
which is usually better than second or third hand.

I have been thinking about how to use the AF because at the moment I 
don't use it all. In fact I only have one lens, the 16-45 DA, that is AF 
(A great lens that I managed to get for just $300, lucky me.) and I was 
thinking about selecting the center point to focus with. Considering, 
that when I meter, I use center weighted or spot metering during the 
games, which are usually at night,  selecting the center AF point should 
work fine. Most of the time, however, I just set the aperture and speed 
and shoot but I am almost always centering my subject so I'm athinkin' 
it should work.

I am in Lexington, KY, so if someone were close, I would love to test 
drive one if possible but I'm not holding my breath. I'm betting that 
Pentax users are a scattered bunch and I have gotten used to buying 
lenses on faith since no one around here carries Pentax lenses other 
than consumer grade. My preference is constant f2.8 glass, though the 
16-45 is f4 and I have an f3.5 35-105 A, but I prefer as fast as 
possible 

Re: Evil! EVIL! EEEVIL!

2004-11-10 Thread brooksdj
 
 - Original Message - 
 If life were this simple, you wouldn't need a 300mm/f4.
 
 William Robb 

Thats all i needed to hear.vbg

Now, what was my Ebay password again.Hummm:-)

Dave 






Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
JC,

I've had similar experiences over my last 5+ years on eBay.
Some people are just ...
But right now I'm certain there are people wondering about me.
I've got a Fujinon-W 125mm lens listed but no pic.  (dpconsult.com)
And I've not had time to post it.  (Wrecked the wife's car last night, for 
starters.)  Life is just getting in the way.  There's 25 people watching  
waiting as I've got a decent BIN on it.  But alas.  I'll try to accomplish that 
tonight.

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl

'Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to 
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.'   Ronald Reagan 
 





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Re: Evil! EVIL! EEEVIL!

2004-11-10 Thread Bob Blakely
Will do!

Regards,
Bob...

From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! Wheatfield (soon to be Snowfield) Willie
 was right!
 
 I just HAD to get another lens!
 
 165/2.8 for the 67 off ebay for US$247.52. I'm feeling so thrilled and
 ashamed at the same time!

 Let me know how that 165/2.8 works on the 645...



RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Malcolm Smith
Don Sanderson wrote:

 If he has a low rating it's probably A.
 If he has a high rating it's probably B.
 As a seller I always *pretend* it's C. :-(

B

I agree with your comment on C 

Malcolm




Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Check out Panorama Maker by Arcsoft. 
Numbingly easy to use with spectacular (so far) results. Around $40 USD.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 10, 2004 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

Hi!

 Comments, software suggestions, etc., welcome.

I have only one comment: Darn, I need to learn stitching... :)

Thanks for sharing, it is really cool stuff.

Boris






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Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread boris
Hi!

 Comments, software suggestions, etc., welcome.

I have only one comment: Darn, I need to learn stitching... :)

Thanks for sharing, it is really cool stuff.

Boris





RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Malcolm Smith
Don Sanderson wrote:

 Most sellers are OK, but there definitely are some major A-Holes too!

There are some real nice people out there but I have had a *problem* buyer
this week. Here's the story; I sold an item very cheaply with a faulty
display (which I mentioned in HUGE print in the listing). The winning
bidder, who had several bids on it during the week and therefore must have
read the listing many times, thanked me for sending it quickly but wanted a
refund as the display was faulty!! Having composed and sent him a very
polite e-mail pointing out that the fault he was complaining about was fully
explained in the listing and referred him back to it to check, he
immediately came back with another fault which wasn't there when it was
posted to him. So, is it:

A) He's been stupid and didn't read the listing and wants his cash back

B) It works as well as it did when I sent it and he wanted it for free

C) It genuinely has got another fault by damage in the post

I've dealt with it now, but the truth is I will never know for sure. I know
what I think though

Malcolm 




Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Don,
Pulling the auction in the last 10 minutes is a frequent trick of
JVinkus in Palos, Illinois.  Ebay is a willing accomplice.  All traces
of the listing just disappear before your eyes.  You're watching it
and the listing disappears then the item disappears from your My Ebay
page.  I won't give this seller any business...
Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:38:08 -0600, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is a crock and I'm sure he won't last too long if
 he keeps treating buyers that way.
 I have a couple of others that I think are just as bad:
 
 One guy canceled an auction with just a few minutes
 left because the price hadn't reached what he wanted it to.
 This left me sitting there, ready to make a bid, having
 watched the item for a week, only to find no item to bid
 on at the last moment. He did this THREE TIMES in a row!
 I finally sent him a polite e-mail explaining how stupid
 this was, his response was to offer to sell me the item
 for TWICE what the original BIN was! DOH!
 
 ...



RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
If he has a low rating it's probably A.
If he has a high rating it's probably B.
As a seller I always *pretend* it's C. :-(

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time


 Don Sanderson wrote:

  Most sellers are OK, but there definitely are some major A-Holes too!

 There are some real nice people out there but I have had a *problem* buyer
 this week. Here's the story; I sold an item very cheaply with a faulty
 display (which I mentioned in HUGE print in the listing). The winning
 bidder, who had several bids on it during the week and therefore must have
 read the listing many times, thanked me for sending it quickly
 but wanted a
 refund as the display was faulty!! Having composed and sent him a very
 polite e-mail pointing out that the fault he was complaining
 about was fully
 explained in the listing and referred him back to it to check, he
 immediately came back with another fault which wasn't there when it was
 posted to him. So, is it:

 A) He's been stupid and didn't read the listing and wants his cash back

 B) It works as well as it did when I sent it and he wanted it for free

 C) It genuinely has got another fault by damage in the post

 I've dealt with it now, but the truth is I will never know for
 sure. I know
 what I think though

 Malcolm





RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Seems to me the issue here is with ebay allowing the asking prices/shipping 
prices to be changed after the initial post.

-Original Message-
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

After I told him I would buy the items if they
were fully working BUT BEFORE he sent me the
reply stating they were working OK he raised the
starting bid AND buy it now prices TWICE. AND
he change the shipping prices higher too!
There were no bids yet. It is a little known
fact but a seller can change min bid, BIN, and reserve prices up or
down at any time during an auction as long
as there are no bids and at least 12 hours
remaining. 

I still cant believe he honestly still thought
I would buy them after he did that that little trick. That
one is for the record books as the dumbest salesman
of all time. And I KNOW he still thought I would
buy them because for one thing he still replied to 
my question and secondly he even sent me some new
pix via email that I didn't even request to help
make the sale!

JCO
-Original Message-
From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time


what do you mean by he raised the price? did he raise the reserve? 
or BIN?
i am not even aware that one could change the conditions of an auction
once a bid is placed.

best,
mishka


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:20:08 -0500, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I have a new ebay story that needs telling because
 it is absolutely incredible and needs to be
 shared. I still cant believe it but
 it is TRUE and may be a good warning to future
 ebay buyers out there.




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RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
Don't remember if that was the one, could be.
I feel that the Item no longer available for sale,
Item lost or broken and Error in listing reasons
for pulling a listing ought to involve A LOT more
work and a monetary ding to the seller.
They are used WAY too often for other reasons.
I stand by my listings to the end.
If *I* screw up then I take it on the chin,
I don't expect buyers to suffer for my boo boo's. ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time
 
 
 Don,
 Pulling the auction in the last 10 minutes is a frequent trick of
 JVinkus in Palos, Illinois.  Ebay is a willing accomplice.  All traces
 of the listing just disappear before your eyes.  You're watching it
 and the listing disappears then the item disappears from your My Ebay
 page.  I won't give this seller any business...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:38:08 -0600, Don Sanderson 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That is a crock and I'm sure he won't last too long if
  he keeps treating buyers that way.
  I have a couple of others that I think are just as bad:
  
  One guy canceled an auction with just a few minutes
  left because the price hadn't reached what he wanted it to.
  This left me sitting there, ready to make a bid, having
  watched the item for a week, only to find no item to bid
  on at the last moment. He did this THREE TIMES in a row!
  I finally sent him a polite e-mail explaining how stupid
  this was, his response was to offer to sell me the item
  for TWICE what the original BIN was! DOH!
  
  ...
 



Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Hi Sally!

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 10, 2004 4:36 AM
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

On 9/11/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Comments Please! Has anyone ever heard or seen or experienced
anything like that? Ever? Online or offline? That is just truly 
mindblowing to me.

It's a sad reflection of the nature of greed, but it doesn't surprise me
in the slightest. In fact you could look at it as a natural extension of
exactly what eBay stands for. The seller offers an item, the item becomes
'in demand', the seller takes advantage of that demand by maximising his
profit (but also the risk).

As a would-be buyer, you did the only thing you could have done, and that
was to walk away. You correctly state that the seller was silly to expect
you pay more than was originally supposed. The seller took a risk and
lost the sale.

The nature of eBay is greedy. It inspires greed in lots of people - both
buyers and sellers. It's possible to go over the top in both camps. As
for the ethical implications, you could say that 'sniping' is pretty rude.

It is an extremely mild indicator of man's inhumanity to man.

Every time you go into a crowded supermarket, take a look at how many
shopping trolleys are left at awkward angles while their oblivious
custodians rummage through the shelves, creating blockages in the isles.
Then realise that each and every one of those custodians has a car in the
car park. Is it any wonder so many are killed on the roads?

Exactly what that has to do with dodgy eBay sellers is beyond me, but
slap my ass and call me Sally, it seemed worthwhile to include here.

So like anyone else, before I did the Buy it Now I emailed
the seller and told them I was interested in buying them
but only if the lenses were fully working so I asked for a clarification
of the working condition of the items.

You were being honest and ethical in the above para, but it was a clear
case of Too Much Info. Next time you might just write asking if the
lenses are working okay?

Trust no-one! (On eBay)





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Re: Pentax 80-200 FA* Opinions

2004-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Hey Larry, don't worry about the weight, just consider it training for the 
600mm FA.
 VBG

-Original Message-
From: Larry Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 10, 2004 7:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax 80-200 FA* Opinions



Larry Cook mused:
 
 I have recently posted a query about 80-200 f2.8 zooms in general and 
 after receiving opinions here and elsewhere I would like to know more 
 about the Pentax 80-200 FA* specifically from actual owners/users of 
 that lens, especially when married to a *istD. I have narrowed my search 
 to the Pentax and the Sigma 70-200. I have heard nice things about both 
 but I have also heard some less than favorable things about the Pentax 
 (as well as teh Sigma). So before I launch off into a search for a 
 suitable speciman and its most likely equally suitable price I would 
 like to see if it is worth searching for given what I intend to shoot 
 with it. I intend to shoot mainly my son's high school soccer, so I need 
 something that has a rather quick AF. I have heard that the Pentax AF is 
 both slow and fast and that it is both one of the best and not one of 
 the best optically. It is also apparently heavy and the tripod moumt is 
 flimsy. What is the actual truth? How is the AF performance? Is it a 
 great optical speciman or just mediocre? It is heavy, oh well, I have a 
 monpod and currently use it with the two Tokina ATX MF zooms that I 
 have, so no big deal there. How is the construction? Is the tripod mount 
 really flimsy? Anything else of note? Is it worth pursuing given the 
 possible $500 premium over and above the Sigma lens?
 
 I appreciate any reponses both good and bad because it is information 
 that I seek,


1)  It's heavy.

2)  It's *heavy*

3)  It's HEAVY.

4)  Although it's not as heavy as a 300/2.8, let alone the 250-600/5.6
I use mine without a monopod, but after an hour or two my arms
complain every time I lift the thing to shooting position.

The tripod mount isn't flimsy; you can use it to break rocks with :-)

I find the AF performance perfectly acceptable, and have no complaints
about the optical performance of the lens.  There's some degree of
light fall-off in the corners, especially wide open, but I haven't seen 
an 80-200/2.8 where this isn't the case.  I've used mine with a PZ-1p,
an MZ-S, and the *ist-D.  I shoot primarily motorsports (a fast action
sport), and have found the AF performance fast enough.  I rarely use
full-auto AF, though; I manually select the auto-focus point (this is
one of the reasons why I prefer the *ist-D to the earlier cameras;
a wider choice of AF points suits my shooting style much better).

With the full-frame cameras I sometimes found 200mm wasn't quite long
enough; the extra crop factor of the smaller sensor means that I can
sometimes get away with just the 80-200.  That will also work to your
advantage when shooting soccer.

Where, physically, are you located?   There are a couple of us on
the list that have the 80-200, and PDML members are a friendly bunch;
I've been able to test out lenses courtesy of other list members.

As for being worth the $500 premium; that's a question for you to
decide.  That difference would buy you a DA 16-45, for one thing.

  


John,

Thanks very much for the response. That is exactly the type of response 
I was seeking.

I assumed that it was heavy at 1510g but the two lenses I currently use, 
Tokina ATX 100-300 f4 and ATX 80-200 f2.8 (both MF) are heavy 
themselves. The 300, I always use the monopod with but I have taken to 
handholding the 200. I haven't weighed either but the new ATX 80-200 is 
around 1300g so I'm betting the ones I have are that or heavier, most 
likely the latter. So that actually didn't concern me greatly. Though 
lighter would be easier on my aging back and shoulders and arms and 
feet...oh well...Of course the Sigma 70-200 which I am considering is 
1200-1300g, so while lighter, it is no featherweight but lighter is 
lighter...

I am glad to hear that he tripod mount is solid. When I read about the 
mount previously, I was surprised to see it described in that way 
considering the type of lens this is. So I wanted first hand knowledge 
which is usually better than second or third hand.

I have been thinking about how to use the AF because at the moment I 
don't use it all. In fact I only have one lens, the 16-45 DA, that is AF 
(A great lens that I managed to get for just $300, lucky me.) and I was 
thinking about selecting the center point to focus with. Considering, 
that when I meter, I use center weighted or spot metering during the 
games, which are usually at night,  selecting the center AF point should 
work fine. Most of the time, however, I just set the aperture and speed 
and shoot but I am almost always centering my subject so I'm athinkin' 
it should work.

I am in Lexington, KY, so if someone were close, I would love to test 
drive one if possible but I'm not holding my breath. I'm betting that 
Pentax 

Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread Christian


John Francis wrote on 11/10/2004, 2:54 AM:

  I guess I need to go back through the archives to see what software
  other folks recommend for panorama stitching, etc.
 
  Comments, software suggestions, etc., welcome.
 

try PTAssembler. http://www.tawbaware.com/ptasmblr.htm
alone or with the auotopano http://autopano.kolor.com/ plugin
so simple, even I can use it!  Shareware: US$39.00

-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Rebates

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
Nikon and Pentax have excellent salesperson spiff programs in Canada. 
Canon only offers one a few times a year, so if you count on it it'll
break your heart.

Chris


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 18:46:23 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Caveman
 Subject: OT: Rebates
 
 Canon has always been pretty shameless about bribing customers to buy
 their stuff, when I was in the selling game, they were also pretty
 shameless about bribing us into selling their stuff.
 I haven't seen much in rebates from Nikon before, but when your major
 competition is trying to screw up the market, I guess everyone has to
 get in on the game.
 I wonder if the rebates will push them into dumping territory.
 
 William Robb
 
 
  http://www.dpreview.com/news/0411/04110803canonnikon_slrrebates.asp
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:

The other is an auction I won for an LX body for $289.00.
The response from the seller was: Sorry, I meant to end this
auction early, I won't sell it for that price. I tried to get
eBay to intervene but she told them the reason for her delay
was that her computer was down and she couldn't pull the item
early and she got away with it!
Like there isn't another computer on the planet she could have
used to pull the item!
This one still steams me when I think about it. Another week of 
watching an item for nothing!

Most sellers are OK, but there definitely are some major
A-Holes too!

Don, what was her feedback like?




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  Cotty


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Re: Color Print Film Question

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
I second the Kodak 100UC.  I shoot it in 120 and it's one of my
favourite print films.

Chris


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:07:26 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you Jack.  I'm not too interested in the film's specs.  I'll put a
 roll in the camera and shoot it.  That'll give me what I need to know.
 heck, half the time i don't even understand the specs, and usually half the
 specs are just marketing hype, with comments like pleasing skin tones and
 very fine grain.  Thank you very much for noting that the film is
 available in 100 speed.  On a day like it was here today, that allows
 shooting at wide apertures (2.0/2.8) with shutter speeds of 1/125 or 1/250.
 Just perfect ... and the camera is still nicely hand holdable at 1/60 and
 1/30 without having to stop down too far.
 
 Shel
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 11/8/2004 4:58:48 PM
 
 
  Subject: Re: Color Print Film Question
 
  Shel,
  I sent a second email wherein I advised that it is
  avail in both 100 and 400 ISO (BH). Sorry, I should
  have addressed it to you off line.
  I also, referenced the Kodak link to the film's specs:
 
 http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/colorNegativeIndex.jhtm
 l?id=0.1.18.14.13lc=en
 




Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Kenneth Waller wrote:

 Seems to me the issue here is with ebay allowing the asking prices/shipping 
 prices to be changed after the initial post.

Yes, but you need a little latitude (maybe a day) for typos.  Especially since
ebay makes it harder and harder to list stuff.

annsan in defense of fair and honest sellers :)



 -Original Message-
 From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

 After I told him I would buy the items if they
 were fully working BUT BEFORE he sent me the
 reply stating they were working OK he raised the
 starting bid AND buy it now prices TWICE. AND
 he change the shipping prices higher too!
 There were no bids yet. It is a little known
 fact but a seller can change min bid, BIN, and reserve prices up or
 down at any time during an auction as long
 as there are no bids and at least 12 hours
 remaining.

 I still cant believe he honestly still thought
 I would buy them after he did that that little trick. That
 one is for the record books as the dumbest salesman
 of all time. And I KNOW he still thought I would
 buy them because for one thing he still replied to
 my question and secondly he even sent me some new
 pix via email that I didn't even request to help
 make the sale!

 JCO
 -Original Message-
 From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

 what do you mean by he raised the price? did he raise the reserve?
 or BIN?
 i am not even aware that one could change the conditions of an auction
 once a bid is placed.

 best,
 mishka

 On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:20:08 -0500, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I have a new ebay story that needs telling because
  it is absolutely incredible and needs to be
  shared. I still cant believe it but
  it is TRUE and may be a good warning to future
  ebay buyers out there.

 
 PeoplePC Online
 A better way to Internet
 http://www.peoplepc.com



OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost or
damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only have
around 140.

So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
positive feedback that you can find?

Here's my entry, with 2062:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera

Can anyone top that?

Chris



Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison

2004-11-10 Thread Ryan Lee
So, time to make the announcement. After returning my ist D, I now find
myself with a C***n 20D, 17-85 f4-5.6IS USM, a 580EX speedlite, a BG-E2
battery grip, an E1 hand strap, an extra battery and a B+W MRC UV filter. I
miss my kidneys.

Anyway, having had a chance to play with both, here are some comparisons.

1. The most obvious one, I miss the sleekness of the tiny ist D (even with a
grip) holding the 20D and grip. It's chunky. A monstrous monstrosity. And no
matter what people tell you, the 20D is ugly. The battery grip doesn't make
an effort to be tiny either. The ist D's grip takes 4 AA's sideways while
the 20D's grip takes 6 AA's side by side. And what's more, my 16 beloved
2500mah Inca Nimh batteries which I spent a fortune on, seem fine browsing
the 20D, but don't supply enough voltage to shoot! In fact, AA's in the 20D
hardly work at all, and Canon will tell you that (like they told me). On the
other hand, my Inca's lasted forever in the ist D (using a 50 1.4). Felt
like I never had to recharge them. I'm probably going to end up selling them
now :-(

2. The ist D sounds a lot better. The 20D (because of a new mirror design to
accomodate the short back focus EF-S lenses) sounds, literally, like the
whole camera was made of wood. Imagine the ist D's to be a 'chlick' vs the
20D's 'chlock'. I should capitalise some of that for emphasis too.. Very
ironic considering the 17-85 is quieter than a dog's tail wagging.

3. The 20D, unfortunately, does have superior image quality. I'm probably
not comparing in the same price/spec range that's why. Amazingly, while the
ist D produces significant noise at 1600, the 20D at 1600 produces possibly
the same noise as the ist D's 400. For non RAW shooters, the 20D also
provides more control over in camera settings e.g. more range to set
sharpness, contrast etc.

4. The 20D's TTL with the 580EX seems to provide more accurate exposures
than the ist D with the AF360fgz. In low light without AF assist, the 20D
with the 17-85 focuses much faster than the ist D with the SMC F 50 1.4.

5. The 20D does not feel like a walkaround camera. Feels like it should live
in a studio. This might present problems when I'm backpacking London and
Paris in a few days.

6..Probably other stuff to talk about, but the 20D doesn't allow me to post
to the PUG. I hope I don't end up Franken-lensing like some.

Enough for now..

Cheers,
Ryan

PS. Will still be hanging on to my dear 5n. It's taken some good shots and
I'm sentimental. Plus I need a film camera. Plus it's like a season ticket
to the list :-) Just an afterthought, what are people paying for a minty SMC
F 50 1.4 these days?






RE: ist D Multiple flash set up

2004-11-10 Thread Jens Bladt
I would never do that and risk damaging my favorite camera. I use slave
cells and they work fine.
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Steve Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. november 2004 02:12
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: ist D  Multiple flash set up


Has anyone tried shooting with a Pentax flash in the
hot shoe, and another flash hooked up to the PC
terminal, to see if they both will fire at the same
time?  I'm trying to figure out a fairly inexpensive
way to set up studio/strobe lights.

Thanks!

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Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Midwest Photo has been good.
They have an interesting policy that has been helpful.
If the ebay price goes above their web price then you only pay the web price.
Their first feedback came at about 1500 feedback from a person who complained 
about the price being above their online web price -- and he didn't even talk 
to them about it!
They got some negs in a batch, but have had an employee change in that regard 
to clean up the area.


Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl

'Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to 
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.'   Ronald Reagan 
 





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RE: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I have seen 2200+ with no negatives

Secondly, 100% positve is no guarantee of getting
a good deal. Some sellers have great return policies
so you don't end up giving them a negative but that
doesn't mean you had a smooth deal with them or
nobody had to send stuff back to them for false
claims etc

Best seller I ever met was a guy I bought a stereo
amp from. When I plugged it in it popped  SMOKED.
He not only sent me a paypal refund same day I emailed
him about it for the full price I paid him + shipping , he included
extra amount to send back, labor to pack it, and get
this, SAID THAT AFTER HE GOT IT BACK HE WOULD FIX IT
AND SEND IT BACK TO ME FOR FREE!

That is what I call a good seller. But since I would never
trust hooking up that amplifier to expensive speakers
I told him not to bother repairing on my account and
not to send it to me. I was satisfied just to get all my
money back instantly and even before I returned it to him.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?


There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so let's
switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay, and that
involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other sale or
purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost or damaged
in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only have around
140.

So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
positive feedback that you can find?

Here's my entry, with 2062:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera

Can anyone top that?

Chris



Re: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison

2004-11-10 Thread Tim Sherburne

Very interesting, Ryan. Thanks for posting. As much as I hate to admit it,
the 20D sure looks attractive on paper, but that has to be balanced against
real world experience.

t

On 11/10/04 7:45, Ryan Lee wrote:

 So, time to make the announcement. After returning my ist D, I now find
 myself with a C***n 20D, 17-85 f4-5.6IS USM, a 580EX speedlite, a BG-E2
 battery grip, an E1 hand strap, an extra battery and a B+W MRC UV filter. I
 miss my kidneys.
 
 Anyway, having had a chance to play with both, here are some comparisons.
 
 1. The most obvious one, I miss the sleekness of the tiny ist D (even with a
 grip) holding the 20D and grip. It's chunky. A monstrous monstrosity. And no
 matter what people tell you, the 20D is ugly. The battery grip doesn't make
 an effort to be tiny either. The ist D's grip takes 4 AA's sideways while
 the 20D's grip takes 6 AA's side by side. And what's more, my 16 beloved
 2500mah Inca Nimh batteries which I spent a fortune on, seem fine browsing
 the 20D, but don't supply enough voltage to shoot! In fact, AA's in the 20D
 hardly work at all, and Canon will tell you that (like they told me). On the
 other hand, my Inca's lasted forever in the ist D (using a 50 1.4). Felt
 like I never had to recharge them. I'm probably going to end up selling them
 now :-(
 
 2. The ist D sounds a lot better. The 20D (because of a new mirror design to
 accomodate the short back focus EF-S lenses) sounds, literally, like the
 whole camera was made of wood. Imagine the ist D's to be a 'chlick' vs the
 20D's 'chlock'. I should capitalise some of that for emphasis too.. Very
 ironic considering the 17-85 is quieter than a dog's tail wagging.
 
 3. The 20D, unfortunately, does have superior image quality. I'm probably
 not comparing in the same price/spec range that's why. Amazingly, while the
 ist D produces significant noise at 1600, the 20D at 1600 produces possibly
 the same noise as the ist D's 400. For non RAW shooters, the 20D also
 provides more control over in camera settings e.g. more range to set
 sharpness, contrast etc.
 
 4. The 20D's TTL with the 580EX seems to provide more accurate exposures
 than the ist D with the AF360fgz. In low light without AF assist, the 20D
 with the 17-85 focuses much faster than the ist D with the SMC F 50 1.4.
 
 5. The 20D does not feel like a walkaround camera. Feels like it should live
 in a studio. This might present problems when I'm backpacking London and
 Paris in a few days.
 
 6..Probably other stuff to talk about, but the 20D doesn't allow me to post
 to the PUG. I hope I don't end up Franken-lensing like some.
 
 Enough for now..
 
 Cheers,
 Ryan
 
 PS. Will still be hanging on to my dear 5n. It's taken some good shots and
 I'm sentimental. Plus I need a film camera. Plus it's like a season ticket
 to the list :-) Just an afterthought, what are people paying for a minty SMC
 F 50 1.4 these days?
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:52:38 -0500, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have seen 2200+ with no negatives

Sorry, but no cigar unless you remember the username. :)

 Secondly, 100% positve is no guarantee of getting
 a good deal. Some sellers have great return policies
 so you don't end up giving them a negative but that
 doesn't mean you had a smooth deal with them or
 nobody had to send stuff back to them for false
 claims etc

True.  It's still impressive to see anyone reach that high of a
feedback rating without having at least one disgruntled and
unreasonable customer.
 
 Best seller I ever met was a guy I bought a stereo
 amp from. When I plugged it in it popped  SMOKED.
 He not only sent me a paypal refund same day I emailed
 him about it for the full price I paid him + shipping , he included
 extra amount to send back, labor to pack it, and get
 this, SAID THAT AFTER HE GOT IT BACK HE WOULD FIX IT
 AND SEND IT BACK TO ME FOR FREE!

Incredible.

Chris

 That is what I call a good seller. But since I would never
 trust hooking up that amplifier to expensive speakers
 I told him not to bother repairing on my account and
 not to send it to me. I was satisfied just to get all my
 money back instantly and even before I returned it to him.
 JCO
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
 
 There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so let's
 switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay, and that
 involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other sale or
 purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost or damaged
 in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only have around
 140.
 
 So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
 positive feedback that you can find?
 
 Here's my entry, with 2062:
 
 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
 
 Can anyone top that?
 
 Chris
 




Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Chris Brogden, discombobulated, unleashed:

There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost or
damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only have
around 140.

I've done just over 200 transactions and still holding at 100% +ive. Not
had one bad deal. Closest I came was buying a lump of dust with some
metal and glass attached masquerading as a lens. I contacted the seller
and we agreed a 20% refund and I would have it cleaned.

I am *very* fussy about who I buy from. If there's any neg feedback in
the profile, I will investigate it thoroughly, including emailing
previous customers. Usually I walk away. If it's a high value item, I
establish contact before the auction's end with a throwaway question,
just to see how on the ball they are. Any poor reactions or illiteracy
throws up a warning. Of course, they could just be having a bad day, but
my default is to leave it be if I smell a rat. Another item will be along
in good time ;-)

So far I have not been burned either buying or selling and enjoying it
immensely.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why is sniping rude?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The nature of eBay is greedy. It inspires greed in lots of people - both
 buyers and sellers. It's possible to go over the top in both camps. As
 for the ethical implications, you could say that 'sniping' is pretty
rude.




Re: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed:

So, time to make the announcement. After returning my ist D, I now find
myself with a C***n 20D, 17-85 f4-5.6IS USM, a 580EX speedlite, a BG-E2
battery grip, an E1 hand strap, an extra battery and a B+W MRC UV filter. I
miss my kidneys.

One question. Why? Please answer truthfully.


Anyway, having had a chance to play with both, here are some comparisons.

1. The most obvious one, I miss the sleekness of the tiny ist D (even with a
grip) holding the 20D and grip. It's chunky. A monstrous monstrosity. And no
matter what people tell you, the 20D is ugly. The battery grip doesn't make
an effort to be tiny either. The ist D's grip takes 4 AA's sideways while
the 20D's grip takes 6 AA's side by side. And what's more, my 16 beloved
2500mah Inca Nimh batteries which I spent a fortune on, seem fine browsing
the 20D, but don't supply enough voltage to shoot! In fact, AA's in the 20D
hardly work at all, and Canon will tell you that (like they told me). On the
other hand, my Inca's lasted forever in the ist D (using a 50 1.4). Felt
like I never had to recharge them. I'm probably going to end up selling them
now :-(

Do yourself a favour and buy a few third party BP511 batteries. The Canon
ones are expensive and I've seen reports saying the 3rd party's work
fine. You may notice that you can go for days if not weeks without
changing a battery pack in the grip.



2. The ist D sounds a lot better. The 20D (because of a new mirror design to
accomodate the short back focus EF-S lenses) sounds, literally, like the
whole camera was made of wood. Imagine the ist D's to be a 'chlick' vs the
20D's 'chlock'. I should capitalise some of that for emphasis too.. Very
ironic considering the 17-85 is quieter than a dog's tail wagging.

It is not a quiet camera. I have a cool facility on the 1D that offers a
very quiet operation:

 P.Fn-21 enables a quiet mode when the camera is in Single Frame shooting
mode by greatly reducing mirror slap noise. This function can be combined
with the mirror lockup function  to further reduce noise and is useful in
noise-sensitive environments. If you switch to continuous shooting mode,
this function is over-ridden.

This is great for shooting from the hip with a wide lens. I walk about
for ages with the camera (no strap except a hand strap over the knuckles)
shooting candids, never once looking throught the viewfinder. I love it.

Otherwise the noise from the 1D is louder than the 20D.


3. The 20D, unfortunately, does have superior image quality. I'm probably
not comparing in the same price/spec range that's why. Amazingly, while the
ist D produces significant noise at 1600, the 20D at 1600 produces possibly
the same noise as the ist D's 400. For non RAW shooters, the 20D also
provides more control over in camera settings e.g. more range to set
sharpness, contrast etc.

Is this why you changed?

4. The 20D's TTL with the 580EX seems to provide more accurate exposures
than the ist D with the AF360fgz. In low light without AF assist, the 20D
with the 17-85 focuses much faster than the ist D with the SMC F 50 1.4.

Or this?


5. The 20D does not feel like a walkaround camera. Feels like it should live
in a studio. This might present problems when I'm backpacking London and
Paris in a few days.

Dahhh, you yunguns, no stamina. My walkaround kit: 1D+14 2.8 on shoulder,
24-70 2.8 in the pocket.


6..Probably other stuff to talk about, but the 20D doesn't allow me to post
to the PUG. I hope I don't end up Franken-lensing like some.

Well funny you should mention that. I have a lovely Pentax K50mm f 1.2 in
an EOS mount that will act just like an 80 mil portrait lens...I was
going to clean it up and eBay it as a curio but always willing to
entertain PDMLers first. You can then submit to the PUG and do it with pride!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

Why is sniping rude?

Why is sniping rude... Hmmm. Well, I don't specifically think it is per
se, as I do it almost exclusively unless I can't babysit an auction.

I think that some might find it rude because if you went to a real life
public auction, sniping does not exist. However, it is operating strictly
within eBay's rules, so it's fair game and I believe it is so. Some might
not. Just playing devil's advocate.

Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?


Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Northern Lights

2004-11-10 Thread Tom C
One other caveat... if from your location, the aurora were to appear twice 
as intense as compared to my location, then likely your exposure time would 
be half of mine, or your aperture stopped down.


Tom C.


From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Northern Lights
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:05:51 -0700
Hi Mike,
I've found auroras, at least at my latitude, to be even more variable and 
inconsistent as to timing of appearances.  Electricity, it's kin magnetism, 
and the solar wind appear to be very fickle lovers.

However, I've found, in general, the following exposures to work:
f2, ISO 400, between 20  30 seconds.
f2, ISO 800, around 15 seconds.
The variable we cannot control is the intensity of the aurora or the pulse 
like surges in brightness that occur during the exposure.  I count off the 
seconds at a fairly inconsistent rate, so I'm sure my exposures, usually at 
ISO 400 last for variable lengths between 20 and 30 seconds.  Many of the 
pictures I just posted were taken at an attempted exposure time of 27 
seconds.

I also tend to expose at ISO 400 when shooting towards the north, and at 
ISO 800 when I get further away from the pole.  This means I can have 
shorter exposures, lessening the star trailing effect when shooting away 
from the pole.


Tom C.


From: michal mesko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Northern Lights
Date: 09 Nov 2004 23:55:13 +0100 (CET)
Hello List,
just saw the first aurora in my life. It was very pretty, but at least as 
much educative. Here are the lessons learned:

I have been looking for a geomagnetic storm since I came to Finland, 
checking the monitoring site (http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html) 
almost daily. As the gray-steel skies started to break up at the sunset 
today, I rushed to the city to buy rolls of Provia 400F, one of the films 
generally recommended for aurora photography.

Being young and naive, I set out to photograph the lights right after 
twilight at 5pm. My idea was that aurora would dance over the sky for the 
whole night, only to disappear with the first rays of the dawn. :) After 
more than two hours of stumbling through the scary dark forest and 
catching cold by the lake, I packed up and went home. Of course an hour 
later, the lights did appear. Rushing to the lake again, I lent my tripod 
to a friend to play with and went looking for The Perfect Composition. By 
the time I found it, the sky turned dark again.

Puzzled, I approached a seasoned (or so it seemed) aurora photographer on 
the scene. He explained that aurora usually passes our latitude from 10pm 
to 11pm going down from north to south. It returns after midnight at 1am, 
going back north again. Apparently, it is one of those things everyone but 
me knows. ;-) It has something to do with the position of sun, he even 
carried a PDA to check the angle at which the solar winds hit the 
atmosphere.

I then inquired about the exposure times. What he used is very 
inconsistent with the resources on the internet 
(http://www.ptialaska.net/~hutch/aurora.html,
http://w1.877.telia.com/~u87717747/english/bildarkiv_4.htm and more), 
where they talk about 400 speed, fast lens and about 30 second exposures. 
He was using f2.0 lens, ISO 50 and about four seconds! My friends digital 
camera had the right exposures at ISO 100, f2.8 and 8-15 seconds. Anything 
longer and the photo was blown out. And the aurora was supposedly on the 
faint side.

Sorry for the long post. :] I would like to hear comments of experienced 
aurora photographers, anyone?

Mike
(http://skwid.wz.cz)

Svetova kniznica SME - literarne klenoty 20. storocia - 
http://knihy.sme.sk





Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Gonz
I don't think its rude.  I usually bid my maximum amount just as the 
auction is about to end.  If the auction worked this way, i.e., all bids 
were secret until the auction ended, revealing the winning bid, it would 
be more ideal, but then ebay wouldn't make as much money.  Frantic 
buyers getting caught in the emotional one-upmanship of he cant outbid 
ME!, are what frequently make the prices go beyond reason.

rg
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Why is sniping rude?
Shel 


[Original Message]
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The nature of eBay is greedy. It inspires greed in lots of people - both
buyers and sellers. It's possible to go over the top in both camps. As
for the ethical implications, you could say that 'sniping' is pretty
rude.




Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Tom C
NO I DONT.  Not sniping simply encourages someone to outbid yourself, 
driving the price up.  One cannot be sure if, when outbid, the bidder was a 
dupe of the seller or the seller themselves logged in under a different 
name.  Sniping is smart, and one of the few tactics a buyer has to actually 
get the item at a price they are willing to pay, if they don't want to lose 
the item.

Sniping is not rude because this is all about money and sales.  Same old 
game as always, seller hopes to sell for the highest, buyer hopes to buy for 
the lowest.

Tom C.


From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:34:39 +
On 10/11/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Why is sniping rude?
Why is sniping rude... Hmmm. Well, I don't specifically think it is per
se, as I do it almost exclusively unless I can't babysit an auction.
I think that some might find it rude because if you went to a real life
public auction, sniping does not exist. However, it is operating strictly
within eBay's rules, so it's fair game and I believe it is so. Some might
not. Just playing devil's advocate.
Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?
Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread David Zaninovic
Ebay could easily fix this by extending the end of the auction for 5 minutes 
after the last bid but they obviously choose not to
do that.  It could be a seller option, they could even charge for it as it 
would drive the price up.

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time


 On 10/11/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Why is sniping rude?

 Why is sniping rude... Hmmm. Well, I don't specifically think it is per
 se, as I do it almost exclusively unless I can't babysit an auction.

 I think that some might find it rude because if you went to a real life
 public auction, sniping does not exist. However, it is operating strictly
 within eBay's rules, so it's fair game and I believe it is so. Some might
 not. Just playing devil's advocate.

 Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?


 Cheers,
   Cotty


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Re: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very nice start.  I do see one seam near the middle.  I suspect
stitching software would have been able to blend that.  This is a very
nice subject for the pano.  The colors are great and it really draws
you in.

Bruce


Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 11:54:06 PM, you wrote:


JF It's about a year now since I got my *ist-D, so I decided to go back
JF to the park where I did my first trial shots and try something else.

JF I don't have any panorama stitching software, so I haven't yet been
JF able to correct for the slight barrel distortion in the lens (which
JF was the original FA 28-105), nor convert to a true cylindrical view.
JF But I like what I've got so far enough to keep working on it.

JF http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/panorama.jpg

JF That's seven shots stitched together.  The original is around 30MP.
JF (I shot in landscape mode, because I don't have a tripod head that
JF puts the camera in the right place when it's in portrait mode).

JF I guess I need to go back through the archives to see what software
JF other folks recommend for panorama stitching, etc.

JF Comments, software suggestions, etc., welcome.






Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Then at what point would the auction actually end?  Bids could, in theory,
go on indefinitely, certainly for quite a while.

Shel 



 From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ebay could easily fix this by extending the end of the auction 
 for 5 minutes after the last bid but they obviously choose not to
 do that.  It could be a seller option, they could even charge for 
 it as it would drive the price up.




RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
That wouldn't work because then no one would bid at all until
the live auction kicked in at the end. I think ebay already
has live type auctions if I am not mistaken...
JCO

-Original Message-
From: David Zaninovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time


Ebay could easily fix this by extending the end of the auction for 5
minutes after the last bid but they obviously choose not to do that.  It
could be a seller option, they could even charge for it as it would
drive the price up.

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time


 On 10/11/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Why is sniping rude?

 Why is sniping rude... Hmmm. Well, I don't specifically think it is 
 per se, as I do it almost exclusively unless I can't babysit an 
 auction.

 I think that some might find it rude because if you went to a real 
 life public auction, sniping does not exist. However, it is operating 
 strictly within eBay's rules, so it's fair game and I believe it is 
 so. Some might not. Just playing devil's advocate.

 Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?


 Cheers,
   Cotty


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Re: Evil! EVIL! EEEVIL!

2004-11-10 Thread Margus Männik
Hi,
poor man, I really do understand your pain Now, there are two ways - 
you either keep your mind cool and stop that crap (LOL) or you'll end up 
with all possible lenses, accessories etc, but empty pocket. And then 
they cancel MF film production...
I 'm talking my personal experience - I tried to avoid, oh' boy, I 
really tried. Fortunatelly, I got slightly easier form of this disease, 
so I could fight back Pentax Fever or Mamiya Flu and even Hasselblad 
Illness. I just got all available soviet Kiev-60 (manual 6x6 SLR) lenses 
and accessories. But afer a while it got worse again and I ended up with 
full Kiev-88 set as well. Now I'm a collector... Time to time, I stand 
against a mirror, look at my eyes and say: Hi, my name is Margus, I do 
collect cameras. And have to admit - I take pictures, too.

BR, Margus
(Z-1p plus ca 80 other different cameras)
Bob Blakely wrote:
This medium format thing is going to be my financial undoing! The 
obsession has now taken full control of my mind and the compulsion 
that follows has now led me to buy a 645 with 75mm lens and extra 220 
film carriers, another 67 lens, a converter so that I can use the 67 
lenses on the 645, a couple of straps, another slave flash and another 
Pelican case. Today I went out and burned up three rolls of 220 on crap!

But damn it was FUN!
OOOWAAHAHAHAAAR!
Maybe there's a 12 step group for this...
Regards,
Bob...





RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
Newbie!

D

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:08 AM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time
 
 
 On 10/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 The other is an auction I won for an LX body for $289.00.
 The response from the seller was: Sorry, I meant to end this
 auction early, I won't sell it for that price. I tried to get
 eBay to intervene but she told them the reason for her delay
 was that her computer was down and she couldn't pull the item
 early and she got away with it!
 Like there isn't another computer on the planet she could have
 used to pull the item!
 This one still steams me when I think about it. Another week of 
 watching an item for nothing!
 
 Most sellers are OK, but there definitely are some major
 A-Holes too!
 
 Don, what was her feedback like?
 
 
 
 
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RE: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
Sorry, I'm just a 557.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
 
 
 There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
 let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
 and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
 sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost or
 damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only have
 around 140.
 
 So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
 positive feedback that you can find?
 
 Here's my entry, with 2062:
 
 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
 
 Can anyone top that?
 
 Chris
 



RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
Don't think it's rude at all, just the way eBay works.
In a real auction the high bidder wins when a new bid
is not placed in a given amount of time.
eBay auctions have a set time limit, not BETWEEN
bid time limit.
I just look at eBay auctions as advertisements of a
product that WIL BE auctioned off in the last couple
minutes before the listing ends.
Only the very last part of an eBay auction works anything
like a regular live auction, the whole rest of it is just
an opportunity to get your product in front of an audience.
I don't even bother to check my for sale items until the last
1/2 hour or so. I've had items putt along at a couple dollars
and then go to 100+ in the last few seconds.
I LIKE snipers, they're aggressive and know what they want,
like real auction bidders. ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:35 AM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time
 
 
 On 10/11/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Why is sniping rude?
 
 Why is sniping rude... Hmmm. Well, I don't specifically think it is per
 se, as I do it almost exclusively unless I can't babysit an auction.
 
 I think that some might find it rude because if you went to a real life
 public auction, sniping does not exist. However, it is operating strictly
 within eBay's rules, so it's fair game and I believe it is so. Some might
 not. Just playing devil's advocate.
 
 Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
It would end when the last person willing to bid won the auction.  
That's how live auctions work.  Usually the
time extended is about 10 seconds but the on line world is different.  
There are drawbacks to everything.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Then at what point would the auction actually end?  Bids could, in theory,
go on indefinitely, certainly for quite a while.
Shel 


 

From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

 

Ebay could easily fix this by extending the end of the auction 
for 5 minutes after the last bid but they obviously choose not to
do that.  It could be a seller option, they could even charge for 
it as it would drive the price up.
   


 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
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RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
The way to do this is similar to any other auction.
Put the item on display for a few days, start the actual auction
at a specific time and run it for say 10 minutes.
This would put a horrible stress on the system AND on my
poor nerves as a seller!
Like it better this way.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time


 Then at what point would the auction actually end?  Bids could, in theory,
 go on indefinitely, certainly for quite a while.

 Shel



  From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Ebay could easily fix this by extending the end of the auction
  for 5 minutes after the last bid but they obviously choose not to
  do that.  It could be a seller option, they could even charge for
  it as it would drive the price up.





PESO - Pinnacles 1

2004-11-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
This is the second PESO of the trip to Pinnacles and Monterey.  This
time we take a look at Pinnacles.  The weather was very cooperative
and provided nice skies and lighting.  The Pinnacles were formed from
Volcanoes and tektonic plate movements, causing the landscape to be
very broken up and uneven.  It makes for some very interesting photo
opportunities.  Given the opportunity (I didn't have it - just a few
hours there and hiking the whole time), you could spend a lot of time
there photographing.

Anyway, here is one of many shots:

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0017.htm

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, circular polarizer, handheld

Comments welcome

Bruce




RE: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote:

 Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?

No, not rude at all. If you are going to snipe something, it's obvious that
you are certain (even if no bids present) that this item will attract
interest - possibly a great deal. Bidding early with your limit is only
going to happen if you know for whatever reason you can't be 'there' for the
last few seconds of the auction. I often don't bid on items which have been
bid up over a few days. I once came across a couple who used to bid each
others radio gear up, never making the winning bid on any item. I've yet to
e-mail any previous winners on things I'm after from a particular seller, as
if it's got to that stage, I'm not going to bid anyway, but all credit to
you for the additional research! I tend to restrict expensive items I'm
buying to an area I can collect from now. It also means I buy less :-) I
think the new television campaign for eBay over here in the UK has attracted
more sellers best avoided and more new people will tend to bid up those bits
you want up until they learn to snipe for themselves.

Malcolm




Re: PESO - Pinnacles 1

2004-11-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
Very nice, my only complaint is it doesn't look real, and I think that's 
because of the landscape.

Bruce Dayton wrote:
This is the second PESO of the trip to Pinnacles and Monterey.  This
time we take a look at Pinnacles.  The weather was very cooperative
and provided nice skies and lighting.  The Pinnacles were formed from
Volcanoes and tektonic plate movements, causing the landscape to be
very broken up and uneven.  It makes for some very interesting photo
opportunities.  Given the opportunity (I didn't have it - just a few
hours there and hiking the whole time), you could spend a lot of time
there photographing.
Anyway, here is one of many shots:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0017.htm
Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, circular polarizer, handheld
Comments welcome
Bruce

 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: My first *istD stuff...

2004-11-10 Thread Raimo K
Very good!
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:33 AM
Subject: PAW: My first *istD stuff...


Hi!
http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/50999
What do you say?
--
Boris
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Re: PESO - Pinnacles 1

2004-11-10 Thread boris
Hi!

 Anyway, here is one of many shots:

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0017.htm

 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, circular polarizer, handheld

I think it is awesome or awe-insipring :). Really. The clouds make it work. The
whole mood is that of foreboding, of apprehension, of something that's just
about to happen. Mother Nature's grandeur at its best.

At least this is what I feel.

Thanks.

Boris





*ist DS US intro date

2004-11-10 Thread Larry Levy
There are several web sites that indicate a 20 November 2004 US introduction 
date for the *ist DS. My local Wolf Camera was hoping for this weekend - to 
coincide with their annual manufacturers rep sale,  but the DS and the 
Minolta DSLR were both late.

Larry in Dallas
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RE: ist D Multiple flash set up

2004-11-10 Thread Steve Pearson
Hi Jens,

Thanks for the advice.  What kind of slave cells do
you use?  Can you refer me to an online seller?

Thanks again!

--- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would never do that and risk damaging my favorite
 camera. I use slave
 cells and they work fine.
 All the best
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Steve Pearson
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 10. november 2004 02:12
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: ist D  Multiple flash set up
 
 
 Has anyone tried shooting with a Pentax flash in the
 hot shoe, and another flash hooked up to the PC
 terminal, to see if they both will fire at the same
 time?  I'm trying to figure out a fairly inexpensive
 way to set up studio/strobe lights.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Hey guys, lets keep the quotes straight, I never said

The nature of eBay is greedy. It inspires greed in lots of people - both
  buyers and sellers. It's possible to go over the top in both camps. As
  for the ethical implications, you could say that 'sniping' is pretty
rude.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 10, 2004 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

Why is sniping rude?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The nature of eBay is greedy. It inspires greed in lots of people - both
 buyers and sellers. It's possible to go over the top in both camps. As
 for the ethical implications, you could say that 'sniping' is pretty
rude.





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Re: Northern Lights

2004-11-10 Thread Jostein
Michal,

The aurora is very variable.
I've only had two good shoots with it, and on both occations, the LX
metering saved my day, or night if you like.
I've got the best from both shoots on my website, and as you'll see,
the exposure times varied a lot. One night, the exposures were down to
40 seconds at f/2.8 on ISO 100. The other night I used 4 minutes at
f/4 on ISO 400.

If you're interested in my pics, you can find them at http://oksne.net

Cheers,
Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: michal mesko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:55 PM
Subject: Northern Lights


 Hello List,

 just saw the first aurora in my life. It was very pretty, but at
least as much educative. Here are the lessons learned:

 I have been looking for a geomagnetic storm since I came to Finland,
checking the monitoring site
(http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html) almost daily. As the
gray-steel skies started to break up at the sunset today, I rushed to
the city to buy rolls of Provia 400F, one of the films generally
recommended for aurora photography.

 Being young and naive, I set out to photograph the lights right
after twilight at 5pm. My idea was that aurora would dance over the
sky for the whole night, only to disappear with the first rays of the
dawn. :) After more than two hours of stumbling through the scary dark
forest and catching cold by the lake, I packed up and went home. Of
course an hour later, the lights did appear. Rushing to the lake
again, I lent my tripod to a friend to play with and went looking for
The Perfect Composition. By the time I found it, the sky turned dark
again.

 Puzzled, I approached a seasoned (or so it seemed) aurora
photographer on the scene. He explained that aurora usually passes our
latitude from 10pm to 11pm going down from north to south. It returns
after midnight at 1am, going back north again. Apparently, it is one
of those things everyone but me knows. ;-) It has something to do with
the position of sun, he even carried a PDA to check the angle at which
the solar winds hit the atmosphere.

 I then inquired about the exposure times. What he used is very
inconsistent with the resources on the internet
(http://www.ptialaska.net/~hutch/aurora.html,
http://w1.877.telia.com/~u87717747/english/bildarkiv_4.htm and more),
where they talk about 400 speed, fast lens and about 30 second
exposures. He was using f2.0 lens, ISO 50 and about four seconds! My
friends digital camera had the right exposures at ISO 100, f2.8 and
8-15 seconds. Anything longer and the photo was blown out. And the
aurora was supposedly on the faint side.

 Sorry for the long post. :] I would like to hear comments of
experienced aurora photographers, anyone?

 Mike
 (http://skwid.wz.cz)


 
 Svetova kniznica SME - literarne klenoty 20. storocia -
http://knihy.sme.sk




Re: PESO - Pinnacles 1

2004-11-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Wow! Great capture, subject, composition, exposure right on.
The cloudy sky sure saved your A**. VBG

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO - Pinnacles 1

This is the second PESO of the trip to Pinnacles and Monterey.  This
time we take a look at Pinnacles.  The weather was very cooperative
and provided nice skies and lighting.  The Pinnacles were formed from
Volcanoes and tektonic plate movements, causing the landscape to be
very broken up and uneven.  It makes for some very interesting photo
opportunities.  Given the opportunity (I didn't have it - just a few
hours there and hiking the whole time), you could spend a lot of time
there photographing.

Anyway, here is one of many shots:

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0017.htm

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, circular polarizer, handheld

Comments welcome

Bruce





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A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com



Compact camera for Cesar ;-)

2004-11-10 Thread Caveman
http://tinyurl.com/3qlfp



Re: PESO - Pinnacles 1

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:

This is the second PESO of the trip to Pinnacles and Monterey.  This
time we take a look at Pinnacles.  The weather was very cooperative
and provided nice skies and lighting.  The Pinnacles were formed from
Volcanoes and tektonic plate movements, causing the landscape to be
very broken up and uneven.  It makes for some very interesting photo
opportunities.  Given the opportunity (I didn't have it - just a few
hours there and hiking the whole time), you could spend a lot of time
there photographing.

Anyway, here is one of many shots:

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0017.htm

Whoa! Bruce, I am starting to *hate* you with a vulgar, insipid loathing
that permeates my entire photographic soul.

That is one of the best landscapes I have ever seen.

Ever.

Damn, I wish I had taken that. As they are wont to say in California, you
da man.






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Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
I've a miserable 385 @ 100%

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

 There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
 let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
 and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
 sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost 
 or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only 
 have around 140.
 
 So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
 positive feedback that you can find?
 
 Here's my entry, with 2062:
 
 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
 
 Can anyone top that?
 
 Chris
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: Compact camera for Cesar ;-)

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Caveman, discombobulated, unleashed:


http://tinyurl.com/3qlfp


Why does that camera remind me of a Cylon?

http://www.legionxxiv.org/cylon124/



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Re: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison

2004-11-10 Thread wendy beard
 --- Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Anyway, having had a chance to play with both, here
 are some comparisons.
 
 1. The most obvious one, I miss the sleekness of the
 tiny ist D (even with a
 grip) holding the 20D and grip. It's chunky. A
 monstrous monstrosity. And no
 matter what people tell you, the 20D is ugly. 

You now know the reason I have an *istD as vell as a
10D :-)
It's small, light, quiet and just brilliant with a
77mm on it

The 10D is a clunky, heavy beast that I hate lugging
around. Unfortunately, it's turned out to be much
better for the dogsport shooting I do. Can't see me
ditching the Canon anytime soon.

Wendy



Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hey guys, lets keep the quotes straight, I never said

The nature of eBay is greedy. It inspires greed in lots of people - both
  buyers and sellers. It's possible to go over the top in both camps. As
  for the ethical implications, you could say that 'sniping' is pretty
rude.

Kenneth Waller

For the record, that quote above is mine.




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Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 5:05:05 PM, Shel wrote:

 Then at what point would the auction actually end?  Bids could, in theory,
 go on indefinitely, certainly for quite a while.

that's how real auctions work. No auctioneer is going to stop the
auction while bids are coming in. That's the whole point of auctions.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-10 Thread brooksdj
http://www.aohc.it/
http://212.187.14.19/spotmatic/index2.html

Dave Hi there,
 
 do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount 
 page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less...) produced M42 
 bodies would be described?
 
 BR, Margus
 Tallinn, Estonia
 






Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Bob Blakely
Because ebay auctions end on a specified date at a specified time, all 
bids are really semi-confidential best and final offers to buy a product 
wherein the final sale price is determined to be a fixed amount above the 
next highest bid. This is as opposed to a real auction wherein the bidding 
continues so long as additional bids are received, or an ordinary best and 
final offer wherein the actual highest offer is the sale price. Those who do 
not understand this really should not play with ebay. This being said, it is 
irrelevant when the best and final offer is made. Most (if not all) folks 
who bid at the last minute, like me, do so to avoid the silly bidding wars 
of those who do not understand the true nature of ebay and get themselves 
caught up in a thrill game thinking they are winning something. Listen, 
just because ebay says that you are winning an item or that you lost an 
item doesn't make it so. You are engaged in the process of BUYING an item by 
sealed bid. Period. You should treat it as such.

Now, as to the use of the word sniping. This is a term most likely 
invented by folks who didn't get their way in an auction - translation: lost 
to someone who bid his maximum at the last minute because they (early 
bidders) either didn't follow ebay advice and bid their maximum from the 
start, or perhaps they did and still somehow believe they were robbed by 
someone else who placed a higher value on an item at the last minute. 
Because they didn't get the item for the price they bid and were surprised 
by the late bidder, they developed resentment. They blamed the late bidder 
for bidding at the last minute of the auction, rather than looking to 
themselves for not bidding their maximum as suggested by ebay, or because 
they felt gypped out of a deal wherein they might receive the item for less 
than it was worth. So up came the term sniping used as a pejorative by 
folks who felt it wasn't fair. It's like calling someone you don't like by 
whatever derogatory name appears convenient. They want to convince you that 
it isn't *fair, and that you are being rude for bidding at the last 
minute.

Listen up! All fair means is that the rules are the same for everybody and 
that they are enforced the same for everybody. Further, we've all met folks 
who don't like the rules (in any endeavor), make up their own, insist 
everyone else must play by their different rules, and then call folks names 
when they don't play their way in an attempt to enforce their rules. They're 
narcissistic little children (girlie boys as our new gubernator would say) 
who can't take their ball home when they don't get their way, so they do 
what they think is the next best thing.

What they call sniping, I call avoiding the ignorant and their silly 
presale games.

Now, when you hear or read of someone calling you or someone else rude for 
sniping, you know the sort of person who's doing the name calling.

Early in our history, the Redcoats called us by what they meant to be a 
pejorative - Yankees. We took the name with pride and are fond of it and 
are to this day.

There! Now I've had my ranting and raving for a month. I feel better.
Regards,
Bob...
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 10/11/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
Why is sniping rude?
Why is sniping rude... Hmmm. Well, I don't specifically think it is per
se, as I do it almost exclusively unless I can't babysit an auction.
I think that some might find it rude because if you went to a real life
public auction, sniping does not exist. However, it is operating strictly
within eBay's rules, so it's fair game and I believe it is so. Some might
not. Just playing devil's advocate.
Help me out here people. Anyone think sniping is rude ?   If so, why?



Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that *I* had 2062; that was a
dealer's feedback.  Mine is a weenie little 139.  I was wondering if
anyone had seen any sellers with large feedback numbers who are also
at 100% positive.

Chris


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've a miserable 385 @ 100%
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 -- Original Message ---
 From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
 Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
 
  There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
  let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
  and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
  sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost
  or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only
  have around 140.
 
  So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
  positive feedback that you can find?
 
  Here's my entry, with 2062:
 
  http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
 
  Can anyone top that?
 
  Chris
 --- End of Original Message ---
 




Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread John Graves
There have been live auctions.  One I used would run until there had not 
been a bid for 2 minutes...Some auctions would run for a 1/2 hour after 
the published close.

John Graves
Peter J. Alling wrote:
It would end when the last person willing to bid won the auction.  
That's how live auctions work.  Usually the
time extended is about 10 seconds but the on line world is 
different.  There are drawbacks to everything.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Then at what point would the auction actually end?  Bids could, in 
theory,
go on indefinitely, certainly for quite a while.

Shel
 

From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

Ebay could easily fix this by extending the end of the auction for 
5 minutes after the last bid but they obviously choose not to
do that.  It could be a seller option, they could even charge for it 
as it would drive the price up.
  


 





Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
There's a guy I bought a couple of filters off in the US had a rating of over 
2000 but I can't remember the ID

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:33:30 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

 Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that *I* had 2062; that was a
 dealer's feedback.  Mine is a weenie little 139.  I was wondering if
 anyone had seen any sellers with large feedback numbers who are also
 at 100% positive.
 
 Chris
 
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +, John Whittingham 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've a miserable 385 @ 100%
  
  John
  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message ---
  From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
  Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
  
   There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
   let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
   and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
   sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost
   or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only
   have around 140.
  
   So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
   positive feedback that you can find?
  
   Here's my entry, with 2062:
  
   http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
  
   Can anyone top that?
  
   Chris
  --- End of Original Message ---
  
 
--- End of Original Message ---



E-bay sniping (was Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time)

2004-11-10 Thread Caveman
H just a question, what do you guys think that would happen if 
e-bay were offering sniping services themselves ? i.e. at the moment 
you want to place a bid, you get a menu asking:

a) place the bid now so that everybody can see it
b) place the bid now but do not show it to anyone and activate it at the 
auction's end



Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
How about: whitening_plus (1006) sells photo accessories (UK) not the highest 
but that's damn good.


John



-- Original Message ---
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:33:30 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

 Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that *I* had 2062; that was a
 dealer's feedback.  Mine is a weenie little 139.  I was wondering if
 anyone had seen any sellers with large feedback numbers who are also
 at 100% positive.
 
 Chris
 
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +, John Whittingham 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've a miserable 385 @ 100%
  
  John
  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message ---
  From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
  Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
  
   There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
   let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
   and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
   sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost
   or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only
   have around 140.
  
   So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
   positive feedback that you can find?
  
   Here's my entry, with 2062:
  
   http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
  
   Can anyone top that?
  
   Chris
  --- End of Original Message ---
  
 
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: Re: Northern Lights

2004-11-10 Thread michal mesko
Thanks for the tips guys! Looks like I will have to borrow a spotmeter to get a 
starting point and bracket a lot from there. 

Jostein, those are absolutely awesome pictures of aurora. The rest of the site 
is very nice, too. Especially the MF photography.

Holding my breath for the next aurora,

Mike

  --- Forwarded message ---
 Forwarded by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Forwarded date: 2004-11-10 19:28:31
 
 Michal,
 
 The aurora is very variable.
 I've only had two good shoots with it, and on
 both occations, the LX
 metering saved my day, or night if you like.
 I've got the best from both shoots on my
 website, and as you'll see,
 the exposure times varied a lot. One night,
 the exposures were down to
 40 seconds at f/2.8 on ISO 100. The other
 night I used 4 minutes at
 f/4 on ISO 400.
 
 If you're interested in my pics, you can find
 them at http://oksne.net
 
 Cheers,
 Jostein
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: michal mesko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:55 PM
 Subject: Northern Lights
 
 
  Hello List,
 
  just saw the first aurora in my life. It was
 very pretty, but at
 least as much educative. Here are the lessons
 learned:
 
  I have been looking for a geomagnetic storm
 since I came to Finland,
 checking the monitoring site
 (http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html)
 almost daily. As the
 gray-steel skies started to break up at the
 sunset today, I rushed to
 the city to buy rolls of Provia 400F, one of
 the films generally
 recommended for aurora photography.
 
  Being young and naive, I set out to
 photograph the lights right
 after twilight at 5pm. My idea was that aurora
 would dance over the
 sky for the whole night, only to disappear
 with the first rays of the
 dawn. :) After more than two hours of
 stumbling through the scary dark
 forest and catching cold by the lake, I packed
 up and went home. Of
 course an hour later, the lights did appear.
 Rushing to the lake
 again, I lent my tripod to a friend to play
 with and went looking for
 The Perfect Composition. By the time I found
 it, the sky turned dark
 again.
 
  Puzzled, I approached a seasoned (or so it
 seemed) aurora
 photographer on the scene. He explained that
 aurora usually passes our
 latitude from 10pm to 11pm going down from
 north to south. It returns
 after midnight at 1am, going back north again.
 Apparently, it is one
 of those things everyone but me knows. ;-) It
 has something to do with
 the position of sun, he even carried a PDA to
 check the angle at which
 the solar winds hit the atmosphere.
 
  I then inquired about the exposure times.
 What he used is very
 inconsistent with the resources on the
 internet
 (http://www.ptialaska.net/~hutch/aurora.html,
 http://w1.877.telia.com/~u87717747/english/bild
 rkiv_4.htm and more),
 where they talk about 400 speed, fast lens and
 about 30 second
 exposures. He was using f2.0 lens, ISO 50 and
 about four seconds! My
 friends digital camera had the right exposures
 at ISO 100, f2.8 and
 8-15 seconds. Anything longer and the photo
 was blown out. And the
 aurora was supposedly on the faint side.
 
  Sorry for the long post. :] I would like to
 hear comments of
 experienced aurora photographers, anyone?
 
  Mike
  (http://skwid.wz.cz)
 
 
  
  Svetova kniznica SME - literarne klenoty 20.
 storocia -
 http://knihy.sme.sk
 
 



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eBay silliness

2004-11-10 Thread David Nelson
A used FA* 85mm f/1.4 just went on eBay for $810 USD. They are available 
 from BH for $799 and come with a soft case too (-:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3850483312
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=40803is=REG

Oh - and did everyone see this?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3850003548
There's a good deal compared with the new price ($2700 vs $7800). Drl.
David


Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
Take from my feedback from others:

photobaytrading (1738)

gggcam (1780)

willypk (2285) Great guy!

razorbladetoys (2928)

Not sure the last one was to do with cameras/photographic but the others were 
as a matter of interest.

John



-- Original Message ---
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:33:30 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

 Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that *I* had 2062; that was a
 dealer's feedback.  Mine is a weenie little 139.  I was wondering if
 anyone had seen any sellers with large feedback numbers who are also
 at 100% positive.
 
 Chris
 
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +, John Whittingham 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've a miserable 385 @ 100%
  
  John
  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message ---
  From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
  Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
  
   There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
   let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
   and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
   sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost
   or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only
   have around 140.
  
   So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
   positive feedback that you can find?
  
   Here's my entry, with 2062:
  
   http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
  
   Can anyone top that?
  
   Chris
  --- End of Original Message ---
  
 
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: E-bay sniping (was Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time)

2004-11-10 Thread Bob Blakely
EBay's goal is to make money. Their stockholders expect them to be running a 
business and making money. To this end, it's in eBay's interest that:

1.Buyers generally believe that they are paying less than market value 
and...
2.Sellers generally believe they are receiving better than market value, 
and...
3.Players believe they are winning and the other(s) are loosing, 
and therefore...
4.Players get wrapped up in the fun of the game.

Therefore, foolishness on the part of bidders is to their advantage.
Sniping removes the foolishness.
What do YOU think?
Regards,
Bob...
From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

H just a question, what do you guys think that would happen if 
e-bay were offering sniping services themselves ? i.e. at the moment you 
want to place a bid, you get a menu asking:

a) place the bid now so that everybody can see it
b) place the bid now but do not show it to anyone and activate it at the 
auction's end



Re: E-bay sniping (was Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time)

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
 H just a question, what do you guys think that would happen 
 if e-bay were offering sniping services themselves ? i.e. at the 
 moment you want to place a bid, you get a menu asking:
 
 a) place the bid now so that everybody can see it
 
 b) place the bid now but do not show it to anyone and activate it at 
 the auction's end

This is already offered by at least one site!

John



-- Original Message ---
From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:57:00 -0500
Subject: E-bay sniping (was Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time)

 H just a question, what do you guys think that would happen 
 if e-bay were offering sniping services themselves ? i.e. at the 
 moment you want to place a bid, you get a menu asking:
 
 a) place the bid now so that everybody can see it
 
 b) place the bid now but do not show it to anyone and activate it at 
 the auction's end
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/11/04, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:

There! Now I've had my ranting and raving for a month. I feel better.

Back on the meds Bob ;-)




Cheers,
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Focus Magic

2004-11-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Just learned about this program.  Has anyone used it to correct the focus
or blur in their photos?

http://www.focusmagic.com/


Shel 




Re: Focus Magic

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
Wow.  That's impressive.

Chris


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:07:05 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just learned about this program.  Has anyone used it to correct the focus
 or blur in their photos?
 
 http://www.focusmagic.com/
 
 
 Shel
 




Re: Silly *istD question

2004-11-10 Thread Fred
 Now, say I remove the batteries and load the new set.

 Will my setup be kept? Or will I have to do the setup again?

I wouldn't call that a silly *istD question - I'd like to hear the
answer, too.

Fred




Silly *istD question

2004-11-10 Thread boris
Hi!

I've just fixed some bugs in my code, so I am in the very special kind of mood
;).

I have set up my *istD. That is, for each of three user presets, I fine tuned it
for my taste. Now, say I remove the batteries and load the new set.

Will my setup be kept? Or will I have to do the setup again?

Thanks.

Boris



Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time

2004-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Don't think it's rude at all, just the way eBay works.

Not so much the way eBay works as the way human nature works. If
everyone did the sensible thing and just bid the maximum amount they
were *really* willing to pay, there would be no need for, or advantage
to, sniping. But what happens in real life is that someone bids a
specific maximum, *hoping* to win the auction for that amount. They when
this person is outbid he/she thinks well, I guess I'm *really* willing
to spend a bit more... and submits a second bid for a higher amount.
This can happen several times (especially if there's more than one of
these indecisive types involved in the bidding). Sniping prevents these
people from ratcheting up the auction price gradually.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
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RE: PESO - Pinnacles 1

2004-11-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Beautiful photgraph. I would perhaps cut a little off the bottom of frame.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. november 2004 18:35
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: PESO - Pinnacles 1


This is the second PESO of the trip to Pinnacles and Monterey.  This
time we take a look at Pinnacles.  The weather was very cooperative
and provided nice skies and lighting.  The Pinnacles were formed from
Volcanoes and tektonic plate movements, causing the landscape to be
very broken up and uneven.  It makes for some very interesting photo
opportunities.  Given the opportunity (I didn't have it - just a few
hours there and hiking the whole time), you could spend a lot of time
there photographing.

Anyway, here is one of many shots:

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0017.htm

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, circular polarizer, handheld

Comments welcome

Bruce






RE: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Stunning perspective and DOF. A great photograph. I wich it was mine!
Jens

Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 19:31
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: PESO - 17 mile drive


Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
PESO's.

This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
pics of the trip over the next few days.

Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
certainly not a sunny evening.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

Comments welcome.


Bruce







RE: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park

2004-11-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Beautiful photograph(s), John. Did you manage to stitch this together
without special panorama software?
I use PhotoVista 3.0, but I'm sure there's much more sofisticated
applications avalibale - i.e. PTAssembler:
http://www.tawbaware.com/ptasmblr.htm for which the Panosaurus (nodal point
adapter) can be recommended.
Keep up the good work.
Jens

Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. november 2004 08:54
Til: Pentax List
Emne: PESO - return to Vasona Lake Park



It's about a year now since I got my *ist-D, so I decided to go back
to the park where I did my first trial shots and try something else.

I don't have any panorama stitching software, so I haven't yet been
able to correct for the slight barrel distortion in the lens (which
was the original FA 28-105), nor convert to a true cylindrical view.
But I like what I've got so far enough to keep working on it.

http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/panorama.jpg

That's seven shots stitched together.  The original is around 30MP.
(I shot in landscape mode, because I don't have a tripod head that
puts the camera in the right place when it's in portrait mode).

I guess I need to go back through the archives to see what software
other folks recommend for panorama stitching, etc.

Comments, software suggestions, etc., welcome.





RE: E-bay sniping (was Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time)

2004-11-10 Thread Don Sanderson
I thought about this for a while...
Even though there are a lot of sites/programs
that will do this for you, (I use one for all
my bidding) I think this would take a lot of the
fun out of eBay for the newbies.
Right now the newcomer is blissfully ignorant of
such things and has fun and gains needed experience
learning the ropes.
He may not win much, or pay too much for what he
does win, but that's how you learn.
I win a lot more auctions now, for far less money.
But it's no longer fun, just routine, ALMOST like
work. ;-)
The fun now comes from the items I win, not from
the auction itself.
Knowing exactly how eBay auctions work is a sure
way to make them a very boring way to buy stuff.
The only exception to this is keeping a very
close eye on newly listed BIN items, this is
fun, challenging and sometimes very lucrative.
I've even gone so far as to send a bit more to
2 sellers who listed BIN items WAY too low!
One of them even e-mails me once in a while for
advice on how to determine what price to list at.
Nice feeling.
And again, as far as sniping in general goes,
if you have a decent rating, like 200 or more,
bidding early just tips off the newbies that
the item is worth bucks.
They figure if an expeienced eBayer will bid
a good price for it, it MUST be worth the big
bucks!
I'm really not greedy, but I'm not out to cost
myself money and/or auctions either.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Caveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: E-bay sniping (was Re: Worst Ebay Seller of all time)
 
 
 H just a question, what do you guys think that would happen if 
 e-bay were offering sniping services themselves ? i.e. at the moment 
 you want to place a bid, you get a menu asking:
 
 a) place the bid now so that everybody can see it
 
 b) place the bid now but do not show it to anyone and activate it at the 
 auction's end
 



Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread Chris Brogden
Almost 3000 feedback at 100% positive!  And with a name like
razorbladetoys, too.  :)  That's amazing.

Chris


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:17:38 +, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Take from my feedback from others:
 
 photobaytrading (1738)
 
 gggcam (1780)
 
 willypk (2285) Great guy!
 
 razorbladetoys (2928)
 
 Not sure the last one was to do with cameras/photographic but the others were
 as a matter of interest.
 
 John
 
 -- Original Message ---
 From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:33:30 -0600
 Subject: Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
 
  Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that *I* had 2062; that was a
  dealer's feedback.  Mine is a weenie little 139.  I was wondering if
  anyone had seen any sellers with large feedback numbers who are also
  at 100% positive.
 
  Chris
 
  On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +, John Whittingham
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've a miserable 385 @ 100%
  
   John
  
  
  
  
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   From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
   Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
  
There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on eBay,
and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost
or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only
have around 140.
   
So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
positive feedback that you can find?
   
Here's my entry, with 2062:
   
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera
   
Can anyone top that?
   
Chris
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Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

2004-11-10 Thread John Whittingham
I just wish I could remember what the transaction was, sounds a little 
scary :)

John

-- Original Message ---
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:32:31 -0600
Subject: Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?

 Almost 3000 feedback at 100% positive!  And with a name like
 razorbladetoys, too.  :)  That's amazing.
 
 Chris
 
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:17:38 +, John Whittingham 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Take from my feedback from others:
  
  photobaytrading (1738)
  
  gggcam (1780)
  
  willypk (2285) Great guy!
  
  razorbladetoys (2928)
  
  Not sure the last one was to do with cameras/photographic but the others 
were
  as a matter of interest.
  
  John
  
  -- Original Message ---
  From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:33:30 -0600
  Subject: Re: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
  
   Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that *I* had 2062; that was a
   dealer's feedback.  Mine is a weenie little 139.  I was wondering if
   anyone had seen any sellers with large feedback numbers who are also
   at 100% positive.
  
   Chris
  
   On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +, John Whittingham
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've a miserable 385 @ 100%
   
John
   
   
   
   
-- Original Message ---
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:31:02 -0600
Subject: OT: Best eBay seller of all time?
   
 There have been a lot of threads about bad eBay sellers/buyers, so
 let's switch it up.  So far I've only had one bad experience on 
eBay,
 and that involved not receiving a $10 item I paid for.  Every other
 sale or purchase has gone smoothly, and I've never had an item lost
 or damaged in shipping.  My feedback is still at 100%, though I only
 have around 140.

 So... what's the highest feedback rating of any seller with 100%
 positive feedback that you can find?

 Here's my entry, with 2062:

 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewFeedbackuserid=brcamera

 Can anyone top that?

 Chris
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Re: Silly *istD question

2004-11-10 Thread Jostein
It keeps the settings.
Cheers,
Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDPDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: Silly *istD question


 Hi!

 I've just fixed some bugs in my code, so I am in the very special
kind of mood
 ;).

 I have set up my *istD. That is, for each of three user presets, I
fine tuned it
 for my taste. Now, say I remove the batteries and load the new set.

 Will my setup be kept? Or will I have to do the setup again?

 Thanks.

 Boris




Re: Silly *istD question

2004-11-10 Thread Sam Jost
My *istD never lost its settings due to low batteries. I bought it in 
february.

You might even be able to back them up using the remote assistent software 
from pentax, but I am not sure about this.

Sam
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi!
I've just fixed some bugs in my code, so I am in the very special kind of 
mood
;).

I have set up my *istD. That is, for each of three user presets, I fine 
tuned it
for my taste. Now, say I remove the batteries and load the new set.

Will my setup be kept? Or will I have to do the setup again?
Thanks.
Boris 



Re: eBay silliness

2004-11-10 Thread John Francis
David Nelson mused:
 
 A used FA* 85mm f/1.4 just went on eBay for $810 USD. They are available 
   from BH for $799 and come with a soft case too (-:
 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3850483312
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=40803is=REG
 
 Oh - and did everyone see this?
 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3850003548
 There's a good deal compared with the new price ($2700 vs $7800). Drl.

It's not *quite* that good a deal - that's 2700 Euros (closer to $3500).
The lens looks to be in extremely good condition, though.

As long-term posters probably know, that's more than I paid for my one :-)



*ist D Anomalies

2004-11-10 Thread Tom C
When I was out shooting several nights ago in (B)ulb mode, the *ist D began 
acting oddly.  Not sure if there's something I'm missing or if this is 
indeed something to be concerned about.

1.  I could not trigger the shutter a 2nd time until the buffer had been 
*almost* completely emptied from the previous single exposure.  In other 
words, I couldn't load the buffer with 5/6 shots and then wait, I had to 
wait after every shot.  I was shooting TIF's.

2. While the orange busy light was on, I could not fire the shutter... 
except it seemed sometimes I could, as long as I had waited a significantly 
long time.  When I downloaded my images, I found that a handful had been 
recorded as .jpgs instead of .tifs.  The capture mode was never changed via 
the control dials to .jpg.  It's almost as if the camera, thought it did not 
have the room for a .tif, so it shot a .jpg instead (hard to believe).

Has anyone else experienced these kinds of things?  Thanks.
Tom C.



Re: Silly *istD question

2004-11-10 Thread cbwaters
There's another battery in the thing (look at the baseplate) that probably 
helps keep the settings uh...set.
CW

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDPDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:51 PM
Subject: Silly *istD question


Hi!
I've just fixed some bugs in my code, so I am in the very special kind of 
mood
;).

I have set up my *istD. That is, for each of three user presets, I fine 
tuned it
for my taste. Now, say I remove the batteries and load the new set.

Will my setup be kept? Or will I have to do the setup again?
Thanks.
Boris

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