Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[Bob W-PDML]

On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' - we 
say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.



> On 15 Nov 2018, at 02:24, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from 
> Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
> But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to (especially 
> for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!
> 
> But how can you make a quick profit on cormorants (especially using the 
> camera)?! That is impossible!
> However, the PDML flock can be so flippant! ;)
> 
> 

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[mike wilson]

Nobody going for Fun Boy 8 (ft. Banarama)?

> On 14 November 2018 at 23:57 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nah. It's the Gipsy Kings of the jungle, doing Bambi Leo.
> 
> > On 14 Nov 2018, at 18:16, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > Looks like a solid line of Katy Perrys to me.
> > 
> >> On 14 November 2018 at 14:18 Jostein  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If lions had music, that band would be either heavy metal or gangsta 
> >> rappers! :-)
> >> 
> >> Jostein
> >> 
> >> Den 14.11.2018 10:19, skrev Alan C:
> >>> We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
> >>> SOUTH AFRICA
> >>> 
> >>> On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in 
> >>> a lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
> >>> currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
> >>> travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph 
> >>> nature in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!
> >>> 
> >>> https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/
> >>> 
> >>> Alan C
> > 
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PESO Not Eggleston

[Larry Colen]

Spotted between Ballico and Livingston CA on my way to lunch, 
photographed on my way back to work:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/45888347381/in/album-72157703616181665/

Side note, to my great surprise the town of Livingston has an excellent 
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Re: Tripods

[Larry Colen]

Sandy Harris wrote on 11/14/18 9:43 PM:

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:27 PM Larry Colen  wrote:


My tripod has disappeared. I've searched ...



... replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford.
Are there any amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?


When I'm in Canada, I visit various thrift stores quite often. They
routinely have tripods, usually dirt cheap & some are from respectable
brands. I've no idea if they'd have what you need, but it might be
worth looking.  


Usually the tripods in thrift stores aren't worth the postage to mail 
them across town, however, there's always the chance of someone not 
knowing what they are throwing away.  It's definitely worth learning 
what to look for and keeping your eyes open.


In an amazing bit of good luck, mine was turned in to lost and found and 
has been recovered.  Yay!


With all the money I saved not having to replace a lost tripod and head, 
I could buy a really nice ball head or gimbal mount.







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Re: Tripods

[Sandy Harris]

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:27 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> My tripod has disappeared. I've searched ...

> ... replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford.
> Are there any amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?

When I'm in Canada, I visit various thrift stores quite often. They
routinely have tripods, usually dirt cheap & some are from respectable
brands. I've no idea if they'd have what you need, but it might be
worth looking.

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Re: Tripods

[John Francis]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:40:10PM +, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 13 Nov 2018, at 23:52, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> > 
> > On 14/11/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
> > 
> >> Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from 
> >> wood wool.
> > 
> > You had knitting needles!! Oh how I wished for knitting needles. I tried 
> > for years to knit my pallets into a tripod using toothpicks, except  we 
> > didn't have any toothpicks either
> 
> Luxury! We used to dream about havin' teeth to pick

You had dreams?  You was lucky!


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GESO: Pow Wow

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Re: GESO Broken Shades

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's not impossible, Ann.
... except that the view is purple from your point. ;-)

On a serious note, - my comment was not really a reflection on your 
comment. Rather, your comment was just a trigger for my old thoughts to 
get shared publicly.


Cheers,

Igor

PS. After a quick google search, I suspect you were referring to
Sheb Wooley's song from 1958. Surprisingly, despite its popularity, I 
don't think I've heard that song before, at least not "consciously".




 ann sanfedele Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:42:02 -0800 wrote:

Just to be clear, Igor - you don't at all understand my point of view ...


I think, however, Larry does :-)

ann

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




These photos tell a story, even if some of them are not perfect as
stand-alone photographs.
And I agree with Ann about that B portrait: it stands on its own.

I know that type of challenging light quite well: it is very popular in the 
blues and jazz/swing music/dance community. So, I appreciate the

challenges and the outcome.

Now, Ann's comment about purple people eaters raised in my mind the old
debate about how the photos reflect what we see/saw in real life.

When we have an incandescent light and yellowish faces, we are trying to 
compensate for that yellow cast (filters and probably some film processing in 
the era of film photography, or color balance for digital).

But the people do look under that light as if they had jaundice.
It's just that our brain corrects/compensates for that in real time.

So, the question is: should or should we not compensate for that
while taking the photos (filters/color balance/...) or in post-processing?
The same question applies to recording a video.
After all, in many situations (these days, when different color lights are 
available), - people purposely choose "warm light" (2700K) to create

a certain mood.


And now, for the purple/coquelicot/smaragdine/mikado/glaucous/fulvous lights: 
They do create a certain atmosphere. So, why we do not get shocked seeing 
those glaucous faces in the room, but many people get the reaction like that 
of Ann's by any face color short of sarcoline in the photos? Those colors in 
the photos should reflect the "real" look of that room and people in it and 
convey that mood. Right?



Cheers,

Igor

PS. I am not being critical of Ann's reaction, I understand it.
Rather, I am thinking out loud about the interesting effect our
brain plays on us. These thoughts are also a followup to the
previous conversation about "truthful" images in photography.

PPS. Strange color names? Look them up! ;-)



Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:40:24 -0800 wrote:



ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM:


   To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people 
eaters yikes



The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very challenging. 
You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you don't blow out one of 
the channels, even if you aren't going to try to bring things back to 
"normal"




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Re: Tripods

[Igor PDML-StR]

Great news, Larry!
Hooray!

I actually don't have any of my tripods (about 3) labeled.
... or any photo equipment for that matter...

Igor



lrc Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:33:01 -0800 wrote:

I just got the best news I've had all week...
My tripod was found and has been recovered.


I thought I had my contact info on it, I'll need to fix that oversight.
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Re: OT: Best Selling Beer Brands

[Igor PDML-StR]

Aah... You are right! Mea culpa!
It's actually written within those pages, - I just didn't read carefully.

Thanks for clarifying it, Paul!

Igor


 Paul Stenquist Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:50:15 -0800 wrote:

No problems. The stats on the Budweiser site are U.S. only, where Bud Lite 
is the top seller. The list is worldwide, and only sales of the American 
Budweiser are included under the Budweiser name. Europeans and Aussies 
don’t like to admit it, but the bland Bud sells well internationally. It’s 
not good beer, but ice cold on a hot day it’s refreshing. More 
importantly, it drinks like water but intoxicates like most other 
mid-alcohol beers, so it’s a favorite of bar crowds who like to get 
hammered in a hurry.



Paul


On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




That list has some problems:
It ranks Budweiser as #2, but if you go to the Budweiser page:
https://vinepair.com/articles/10-important-facts-budweiser-abinbev/ ,
you can see that "Bud Light was introduced in 1988 and overtook Budweiser in 
sales in 2001."

So, how could Bud Light trail as #4?
Clearly, there is an inconsistency there.


But the first question I had before seeing all that: how did they count the 
sales of Budweiser? I.e. is it just American Budweiser or combined with the 
Czech Budweiser (which is The Budweiser in most of Europe, and which is a 
real beer [sold in the US as Czechvar] as opposed to the water-like AB's 
Budweiser).





P. J. Alling Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:31:19 -0800 wrote:

Geez, I can't believe that Coors is the second best selling beer in the U.S, 
let alone the light version.  It was a big deal when I was in college, and 
someone had to go out west to bring back a "suitcase", of the stuff because 
it wasn't available East of the Mississippi.  Then it became generally 
available, and most of us couldn't believe we actually /wanted/ to drink it. 
Corona is Coors with a Mexican accent, just sayin'.



The fact that Snow, which is apparently a derivative of Miller, is the most 
popular in the world, based on it's sales in China, tells me more about life 
there than I ever really wanted to know. Miller the perennial second fiddle 
to Budweiser, gah, the world deserves to end.




On 11/14/2018 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

   Bet you can't name the best selling beer brand in the World.

   https://vinepair.com/articles/10-biggest-beer-brands-world-2018/

   Dan Matyola
   http://wwOT:w.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
   




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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[Subash Jeyan]

some of us were hoping for an incremental upgrade to a 'flagship' which
had the sensor of the kp and the form factor of the k3-ii. it was not to
be and i finally went for the k3-ii.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:02:59 -0500 (EST)
Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
 
> Hi All,
> 
> While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've 
> considered of what would be the next steps of Pentax with respect to
> the new models.
> 
> Asahi Man (a reputable Pentax-insider information leaker on dpreview) 
> indicated that Pentax has a big focus on FF cameras and lenses in the 
> upcoming year (which is apparently a big 100 anniversary year for 
> Pentax, or, more exactly, Asahi Kogaku Goshi Kaisha).
> In his recent posts, I haven't seen any mentioning of the APS-C line.
> The last flagship APS-C camera (K-3ii) was released 3.5 years ago
> (Apr. 2015), about 1.5 years after K-3 (October 2013).
> I might be wrong, but it seems to me (and it looks like some other
> people, including at least some PDMLers were of the same opinion) that
> KP, announced in January 2017 (more than 1.5 years ago) was
> positioned a bit below K-3, even though it is clearly above the
> "second-tier" (K-50, K-70) product line, and its release is in the
> time line corresponding to the flagship line. (Actually, my memory is
> a bit vague about the parameters that made KP inferior to K-3.)
> 
> (You can see the summary of DSLR production years e.g. here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_cameras#K_Series_(Digital)  )
> 
> This suggests that Pentax probably somewhat lowered their top APS-C
> line in favor of the FF line, and the next APS-C body when and IF it
> comes out (which I'd expected to happen before the holiday season,
> but it didn't happen, - so, maybe in spring of 2019), - it might not
> have all the desired features that K-3/K-3ii had.
> 
> The impression I've got is that APS-C cameras might no longer be a 
> priority for Pentax R, and Pentax will just continue some
> incremental releases in this area.
> 
> I realize that its a pure speculation at this point, but I was
> curious about the thoughts of other PDMLers on this issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Igor
> 


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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[Igor PDML-StR]

I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from 
Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to 
(especially for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!


But how can you make a quick profit on cormorants (especially using the 
camera)?! That is impossible!

However, the PDML flock can be so flippant! ;)


Cheers,

Igor


 Jostein Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:18:02 -0800 wrote:

What PDML needs is a shagflip camera.

Jostein


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Re: Tripods

[lrc]

I just got the best news I've had all week...
My tripod was found and has been recovered.

I thought I had my contact info on it, I'll need to fix that oversight.
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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[Bob W-PDML]

Nah. It's the Gipsy Kings of the jungle, doing Bambi Leo.

> On 14 Nov 2018, at 18:16, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Looks like a solid line of Katy Perrys to me.
> 
>> On 14 November 2018 at 14:18 Jostein  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If lions had music, that band would be either heavy metal or gangsta 
>> rappers! :-)
>> 
>> Jostein
>> 
>> Den 14.11.2018 10:19, skrev Alan C:
>>> We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
>>> SOUTH AFRICA
>>> 
>>> On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in 
>>> a lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
>>> currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
>>> travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph 
>>> nature in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!
>>> 
>>> https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/
>>> 
>>> Alan C
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Re: Tripods

[Bob W-PDML]

> On 13 Nov 2018, at 23:52, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 14/11/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from 
>> wood wool.
> 
> You had knitting needles!! Oh how I wished for knitting needles. I tried for 
> years to knit my pallets into a tripod using toothpicks, except  we didn't 
> have any toothpicks either

Luxury! We used to dream about havin' teeth to pick




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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[Jostein]

What PDML needs is a shagflip camera.

Jostein

Den 14.11.2018 20:02, skrev Igor PDML-StR:


Hi All,

While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've 
considered of what would be the next steps of Pentax with respect to 
the new models.


Asahi Man (a reputable Pentax-insider information leaker on dpreview) 
indicated that Pentax has a big focus on FF cameras and lenses in the 
upcoming year (which is apparently a big 100 anniversary year for 
Pentax, or, more exactly, Asahi Kogaku Goshi Kaisha).

In his recent posts, I haven't seen any mentioning of the APS-C line.
The last flagship APS-C camera (K-3ii) was released 3.5 years ago 
(Apr. 2015), about 1.5 years after K-3 (October 2013).
I might be wrong, but it seems to me (and it looks like some other 
people, including at least some PDMLers were of the same opinion) that
KP, announced in January 2017 (more than 1.5 years ago) was positioned 
a bit below K-3, even though it is clearly above the "second-tier" 
(K-50, K-70) product line, and its release is in the time line 
corresponding to the flagship line. (Actually, my memory is a bit 
vague about the parameters that made KP inferior to K-3.)


(You can see the summary of DSLR production years e.g. here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_cameras#K_Series_(Digital)  )

This suggests that Pentax probably somewhat lowered their top APS-C 
line in favor of the FF line, and the next APS-C body when and IF it 
comes out (which I'd expected to happen before the holiday season, but 
it didn't happen, - so, maybe in spring of 2019), - it might not have 
all the desired features that K-3/K-3ii had.


The impression I've got is that APS-C cameras might no longer be a 
priority for Pentax R, and Pentax will just continue some 
incremental releases in this area.


I realize that its a pure speculation at this point, but I was curious 
about the thoughts of other PDMLers on this issue.


Cheers,

Igor



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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[P. J. Alling]

I would agree except, they can't really afford to give up any ground.  
Pentax is known, as far as it is known, for having one of the best, if 
not the best line of dedicated APS-C lenses, many like the limited line, 
of extremely high build quality.


The K-1 is needlessly large compared to the K-3/5/P cameras, if you want 
a relatively light compact DSLR, and you've got a bunch of DA limited 
primes, telling people they live with a K-1 ff camera in crop mode at 
15mp, and selling for 1 1/2 to 2 times the price of a 24mp, APS-C body 
will drive prospective users to someone who makes what they want.


Ricoh's APS-C flagship doesn't have to have any thing near the 
specifications of say a Nikon D500, but Pentax has to have at least be a 
serious, contender to the N7xxx.


There are enough rumors of Pentax' eminent demise, not having a viable 
APS-C flagship, with at least some actual improvements over the K-3II 
will not help.  There needs to be a Pentax APS-C flagship just to remain 
viable in the minds of the buying public. (Let's not get started on 
advertising and distribution, that's another story).



On 11/14/2018 3:12 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

The k-1 works just fine as an aps camera. With their limited resources it would 
make sense to only have one flagship.

On November 14, 2018 11:02:59 AM PST, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

Hi All,

While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've
considered of what would be the next steps of Pentax with respect to
the
new models.

Asahi Man (a reputable Pentax-insider information leaker on dpreview)
indicated that Pentax has a big focus on FF cameras and lenses in the
upcoming year (which is apparently a big 100 anniversary year for
Pentax, or, more exactly, Asahi Kogaku Goshi Kaisha).
In his recent posts, I haven't seen any mentioning of the APS-C line.
The last flagship APS-C camera (K-3ii) was released 3.5 years ago (Apr.

2015), about 1.5 years after K-3 (October 2013).
I might be wrong, but it seems to me (and it looks like some other
people,
including at least some PDMLers were of the same opinion) that
KP, announced in January 2017 (more than 1.5 years ago) was positioned
a
bit below K-3, even though it is clearly above the "second-tier" (K-50,

K-70) product line, and its release is in the time line corresponding
to the
flagship line. (Actually, my memory is a bit vague about the
parameters that made KP inferior to K-3.)

(You can see the summary of DSLR production years e.g. here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_cameras#K_Series_(Digital)  )

This suggests that Pentax probably somewhat lowered their top APS-C
line
in favor of the FF line, and the next APS-C body when and IF it comes
out
(which I'd expected to happen before the holiday season, but it didn't
happen, - so, maybe in spring of 2019), - it might not have all the
desired features that K-3/K-3ii had.

The impression I've got is that APS-C cameras might no longer be a
priority for Pentax R, and Pentax will just continue some incremental

releases in this area.

I realize that its a pure speculation at this point, but I was curious
about the thoughts of other PDMLers on this issue.

Cheers,

Igor

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[lrc]

Great shot. But it seems to me that it isn't off topic.

On November 14, 2018 1:19:48 AM PST, Alan C  wrote:
>We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
>SOUTH AFRICA
>
>On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in
>a 
>lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
>currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
>travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph
>nature 
>in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!
>
>https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/
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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[lrc]

The k-1 works just fine as an aps camera. With their limited resources it would 
make sense to only have one flagship.

On November 14, 2018 11:02:59 AM PST, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've 
>considered of what would be the next steps of Pentax with respect to
>the 
>new models.
>
>Asahi Man (a reputable Pentax-insider information leaker on dpreview) 
>indicated that Pentax has a big focus on FF cameras and lenses in the 
>upcoming year (which is apparently a big 100 anniversary year for 
>Pentax, or, more exactly, Asahi Kogaku Goshi Kaisha).
>In his recent posts, I haven't seen any mentioning of the APS-C line.
>The last flagship APS-C camera (K-3ii) was released 3.5 years ago (Apr.
>
>2015), about 1.5 years after K-3 (October 2013).
>I might be wrong, but it seems to me (and it looks like some other
>people, 
>including at least some PDMLers were of the same opinion) that
>KP, announced in January 2017 (more than 1.5 years ago) was positioned
>a 
>bit below K-3, even though it is clearly above the "second-tier" (K-50,
>
>K-70) product line, and its release is in the time line corresponding
>to the 
>flagship line. (Actually, my memory is a bit vague about the 
>parameters that made KP inferior to K-3.)
>
>(You can see the summary of DSLR production years e.g. here:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_cameras#K_Series_(Digital)  )
>
>This suggests that Pentax probably somewhat lowered their top APS-C
>line 
>in favor of the FF line, and the next APS-C body when and IF it comes
>out 
>(which I'd expected to happen before the holiday season, but it didn't 
>happen, - so, maybe in spring of 2019), - it might not have all the 
>desired features that K-3/K-3ii had.
>
>The impression I've got is that APS-C cameras might no longer be a 
>priority for Pentax R, and Pentax will just continue some incremental
>
>releases in this area.
>
>I realize that its a pure speculation at this point, but I was curious 
>about the thoughts of other PDMLers on this issue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Igor
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Re: OT: Best Selling Beer Brands

[Paul Stenquist]

No problems. The stats on the Budweiser site are U.S. only, where Bud Lite is 
the top seller. The list is worldwide, and only sales of the American Budweiser 
are included under the Budweiser name. Europeans and Aussies don’t like to 
admit it, but the bland Bud sells well internationally. It’s not good beer, but 
ice cold on a hot day it’s refreshing. More importantly, it drinks like water 
but intoxicates like most other mid-alcohol beers, so it’s a favorite of bar 
crowds who like to get hammered in a hurry.

Paul
> On Nov 14, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> That list has some problems:
> It ranks Budweiser as #2, but if you go to the Budweiser page:
> https://vinepair.com/articles/10-important-facts-budweiser-abinbev/ ,
> you can see that "Bud Light was introduced in 1988 and overtook Budweiser in 
> sales in 2001."
> So, how could Bud Light trail as #4?
> Clearly, there is an inconsistency there.
> 
> 
> But the first question I had before seeing all that: how did they count the 
> sales of Budweiser? I.e. is it just American Budweiser or combined with the 
> Czech Budweiser (which is The Budweiser in most of Europe, and which is a 
> real beer [sold in the US as Czechvar] as opposed to the water-like AB's 
> Budweiser).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> P. J. Alling Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:31:19 -0800 wrote:
> 
> Geez, I can't believe that Coors is the second best selling beer in the U.S, 
> let alone the light version.  It was a big deal when I was in college, and 
> someone had to go out west to bring back a "suitcase", of the stuff because 
> it wasn't available East of the Mississippi.  Then it became generally 
> available, and most of us couldn't believe we actually /wanted/ to drink it.  
> Corona is Coors with a Mexican accent, just sayin'.
> 
> 
> The fact that Snow, which is apparently a derivative of Miller, is the most 
> popular in the world, based on it's sales in China, tells me more about life 
> there than I ever really wanted to know. Miller the perennial second fiddle 
> to Budweiser, gah, the world deserves to end.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/14/2018 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
>Bet you can't name the best selling beer brand in the World.
> 
>https://vinepair.com/articles/10-biggest-beer-brands-world-2018/
> 
>Dan Matyola
>http://wwOT:w.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: More K-5II flakiness...

[Paul Sorenson]

Agree with the other Paul.  If you move up to a K3 you can still use the 
battery.


-p

On 11/14/2018 10:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Buy a battery. Even if you end up replacing the camera, another battery is 
always a plus. But I’d bet the battery will solve your problem.




On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:42 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Well, the K-5II more or less did it again.  Camera started firing shutter 
either too long or short, not recording images or recording with very heavily 
magenta casts, controls becoming unresponsive.  Taking the battery out for a 
hard reboot, restored control functionality but doesn't always restore actual 
function. Crap.

After a bit of experimentation it looks like it's battery related.  The problem 
seems to happen after the camera is sitting idle with the original Pentax 
camera battery.  Strangely enough the Watson branded backup battery seems to 
work much better.

This really sux.  I have no idea if I should send the camera for repair or just 
look for a used one, or buy a new battery and hope for the best.  KEH prices 
are pretty low for K-5 variants.

I really was saving my pennies for a K-3, or waiting for the K-3 replacement, 
whichever...

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Re: OT: Best Selling Beer Brands

[Igor PDML-StR]

That list has some problems:
It ranks Budweiser as #2, but if you go to the Budweiser page:
https://vinepair.com/articles/10-important-facts-budweiser-abinbev/ ,
you can see that "Bud Light was introduced in 1988 and overtook Budweiser 
in sales in 2001."

So, how could Bud Light trail as #4?
Clearly, there is an inconsistency there.


But the first question I had before seeing all that: how did they count 
the sales of Budweiser? I.e. is it just American Budweiser or combined 
with the Czech Budweiser (which is The Budweiser in most of Europe, and 
which is a real beer [sold in the US as Czechvar] as opposed to the 
water-like AB's Budweiser).





P. J. Alling Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:31:19 -0800 wrote:

Geez, I can't believe that Coors is the second best selling beer in the 
U.S, let alone the light version.  It was a big deal when I was in 
college, and someone had to go out west to bring back a "suitcase", of the 
stuff because it wasn't available East of the Mississippi.  Then it became 
generally available, and most of us couldn't believe we actually /wanted/ 
to drink it.  Corona is Coors with a Mexican accent, just sayin'.



The fact that Snow, which is apparently a derivative of Miller, is the 
most popular in the world, based on it's sales in China, tells me more 
about life there than I ever really wanted to know. Miller the perennial 
second fiddle to Budweiser, gah, the world deserves to end.




On 11/14/2018 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Bet you can't name the best selling beer brand in the World.

https://vinepair.com/articles/10-biggest-beer-brands-world-2018/

Dan Matyola
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What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All,

While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've 
considered of what would be the next steps of Pentax with respect to the 
new models.


Asahi Man (a reputable Pentax-insider information leaker on dpreview) 
indicated that Pentax has a big focus on FF cameras and lenses in the 
upcoming year (which is apparently a big 100 anniversary year for 
Pentax, or, more exactly, Asahi Kogaku Goshi Kaisha).

In his recent posts, I haven't seen any mentioning of the APS-C line.
The last flagship APS-C camera (K-3ii) was released 3.5 years ago (Apr. 
2015), about 1.5 years after K-3 (October 2013).
I might be wrong, but it seems to me (and it looks like some other people, 
including at least some PDMLers were of the same opinion) that
KP, announced in January 2017 (more than 1.5 years ago) was positioned a 
bit below K-3, even though it is clearly above the "second-tier" (K-50, 
K-70) product line, and its release is in the time line corresponding to the 
flagship line. (Actually, my memory is a bit vague about the 
parameters that made KP inferior to K-3.)


(You can see the summary of DSLR production years e.g. here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_cameras#K_Series_(Digital)  )

This suggests that Pentax probably somewhat lowered their top APS-C line 
in favor of the FF line, and the next APS-C body when and IF it comes out 
(which I'd expected to happen before the holiday season, but it didn't 
happen, - so, maybe in spring of 2019), - it might not have all the 
desired features that K-3/K-3ii had.


The impression I've got is that APS-C cameras might no longer be a 
priority for Pentax R, and Pentax will just continue some incremental 
releases in this area.


I realize that its a pure speculation at this point, but I was curious 
about the thoughts of other PDMLers on this issue.


Cheers,

Igor

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Re: Camera not reading lenses: what could be the reason?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, John, Larry, and P.J, for your responses.

Cleaning/inspecting contacts and deep-power-cycling didn't help.
Upon coming home and inspecting the camera mount carefully, I could not 
see any visible problem with the contact.
Besides displaying "F--", the camera refuses to do any operation that 
requires the lens. (I.e. no shutter activation, etc.) So, I suspect, it is 
not just the "A" contact, but something more, probably happened to the

main board.

Argh...
Now, I am considering my options: trying to repair this camera, getting
a K-3, or even a K-1 (most likely used). This "forced" upgrade was
not planned or budgeted...


Igor




On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Upon arrival to Universal studios park,  I 've discovered that my camera 
(k-5sii) refused to read any lens (I tried 3 different ones).

It showed "F--" on the display.

I've tried to clean the contacts, powercycled it by taking out the battery... 
Nothing helped.


Any ideas on what could be the culprit and what I can try "in the field"?

Please cc me, if possible for the ease of reading responses on the road.


Igor

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Re: OT: Best Selling Beer Brands

[John]

Why not keep rats in a cage & consume their urine directly?

On 11/14/2018 10:40, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Bet you can't name the best selling beer brand in the World.

https://vinepair.com/articles/10-biggest-beer-brands-world-2018/

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[mike wilson]

Looks like a solid line of Katy Perrys to me.

> On 14 November 2018 at 14:18 Jostein  wrote:
> 
> 
> If lions had music, that band would be either heavy metal or gangsta 
> rappers! :-)
> 
> Jostein
> 
> Den 14.11.2018 10:19, skrev Alan C:
> > We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
> > SOUTH AFRICA
> >
> > On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in 
> > a lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
> > currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
> > travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph 
> > nature in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!
> >
> > https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/
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Re: Tripods

[John]

Maybe by the time they get to the 1,000-Year Anniversary Edition I'll have been 
able to save up enough to afford one.


On 11/13/2018 18:45, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Here you go, Larry. Such a deal! 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1343400-REG/gitzo_gk100t_100_year_anniversary_edition.html

Paul


On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:


Am 13.11.18 um 23:08 schrieb Mark Roberts:

When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
out of discarded pallet wood and forge our ball heads from scrap metal
scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...


Lucky you. We didn't even have pallets. I had to knit my first one from wood 
wool.

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Re: Tripods

[John]

On 11/13/2018 17:08, Mark Roberts wrote:

l...@red4est.com wrote:


One thing I can always count on this list for is people bragging about how 
crappy their gear is.


When I was a young man we used to have to carve our own tripod legs
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scavenged from the rusted out cars abandoned on the street...
  



... and it was uphill both ways! Through waist deep snow!!!


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Re: More K-5II flakiness...

[Paul Stenquist]

Buy a battery. Even if you end up replacing the camera, another battery is 
always a plus. But I’d bet the battery will solve your problem.



> On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:42 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Well, the K-5II more or less did it again.  Camera started firing shutter 
> either too long or short, not recording images or recording with very heavily 
> magenta casts, controls becoming unresponsive.  Taking the battery out for a 
> hard reboot, restored control functionality but doesn't always restore actual 
> function. Crap.
> 
> After a bit of experimentation it looks like it's battery related.  The 
> problem seems to happen after the camera is sitting idle with the original 
> Pentax camera battery.  Strangely enough the Watson branded backup battery 
> seems to work much better.
> 
> This really sux.  I have no idea if I should send the camera for repair or 
> just look for a used one, or buy a new battery and hope for the best.  KEH 
> prices are pretty low for K-5 variants.
> 
> I really was saving my pennies for a K-3, or waiting for the K-3 replacement, 
> whichever...
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More K-5II flakiness...

[P. J. Alling]

Well, the K-5II more or less did it again.  Camera started firing 
shutter either too long or short, not recording images or recording with 
very heavily magenta casts, controls becoming unresponsive.  Taking the 
battery out for a hard reboot, restored control functionality but 
doesn't always restore actual function. Crap.


After a bit of experimentation it looks like it's battery related.  The 
problem seems to happen after the camera is sitting idle with the 
original Pentax camera battery.  Strangely enough the Watson branded 
backup battery seems to work much better.


This really sux.  I have no idea if I should send the camera for repair 
or just look for a used one, or buy a new battery and hope for the 
best.  KEH prices are pretty low for K-5 variants.


I really was saving my pennies for a K-3, or waiting for the K-3 
replacement, whichever...


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Re: OT: Best Selling Beer Brands

[P. J. Alling]

Geez, I can't believe that Coors is the second best selling beer in the 
U.S, let alone the light version.  It was a big deal when I was in 
college, and someone had to go out west to bring back a "suitcase", of 
the stuff because it wasn't available East of the Mississippi.  Then it 
became generally available, and most of us couldn't believe we actually 
/wanted/ to drink it.  Corona is Coors with a Mexican accent, just sayin'.


The fact that Snow, which is apparently a derivative of Miller, is the 
most popular in the world, based on it's sales in China, tells me more 
about life there than I ever really wanted to know. Miller the perennial 
second fiddle to Budweiser, gah, the world deserves to end.



On 11/14/2018 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Bet you can't name the best selling beer brand in the World.

https://vinepair.com/articles/10-biggest-beer-brands-world-2018/

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[Paul Sorenson]

Great image.  Congrats to the photographer - for both the image and the 
publication.


-p

On 11/14/2018 3:19 AM, Alan C wrote:
We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
SOUTH AFRICA


On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in 
a lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph 
nature in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!


https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is indeed a special image!

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 4:20 AM Alan C  wrote:

> We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS
> SOUTH AFRICA
>
> On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in a
> lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is
> currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local
> travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph nature
> in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!
>
> https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/
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OT: Best Selling Beer Brands

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Bet you can't name the best selling beer brand in the World.

https://vinepair.com/articles/10-biggest-beer-brands-world-2018/

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[Jostein]

If lions had music, that band would be either heavy metal or gangsta 
rappers! :-)


Jostein

Den 14.11.2018 10:19, skrev Alan C:
We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
SOUTH AFRICA


On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in 
a lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph 
nature in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!


https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/

Alan C

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

[Jack Davis]

WOW! Wonderful moment!
Thanks for sending, Alan.

J

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> On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:19 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS SOUTH 
> AFRICA
> 
> On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in a 
> lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
> currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local travel 
> magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph nature in one form 
> of another. Still many film adherents too!
> 
> https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/
> 
> Alan C
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OT: Lion Cubs

[Alan C]

We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS 
SOUTH AFRICA


On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in a 
lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is 
currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local 
travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph nature 
in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!


https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/

Alan C

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