PESO: Foundations

2018-11-15 Thread David Mann
My wife and daughter went to a play last week so I spent a little time having a 
walk around the central city.

Before the earthquakes this was the city's tallest building.  Now it's just 
another derelict site.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1063/#peso

I bought my lunch from a ground-floor bakery in this building on the day of the 
2011 quake... I was walking back to the office when it hit.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread mike wilson
Not to be insulting to anyone but I do find myself being in the position of not 
giving a Phalacrocorax.

> On 16 November 2018 at 02:27 Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lads, I suspect you might be talking about two different shags.
> As I've written in my earlier response:
> 
> >> I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different 
> >> from Carolina Shag).
> 
> Based on the location, background and the music mentioned, I suspect Larry 
> is talking about the former (which is a bit more upbeat and somewhere 
> between popular in Europe Boogie-Woogie and Charleston of 30's-40's and is 
> usually  danced to fast swing jazz music), while John is talking about the 
> latter, which is closer to West Coast Swing (looks very much like a fast 
> West Coast) and is danced to more pop/rock-n-roll/... -sounding music.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegiate_shag
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTnxCBfOcNU
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_shag
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l5pczCZw04
> 
> BTW, there is also St.Louis Shag that I had not seen before, which is
> the closest of all shags to Charleston:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JHQSCt1Zbk
> If I didn't know about it being St.Louis Shag, I would've called it
> Charleston.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
>   John Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:29:09 -0800 wrote:
> 
> On 11/15/2018 12:44, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> > Nope, those aren't shaggable either. Actually, for me nothing is. I 
> > might be able to fake balboa, but I'd need at least a few minutes to 
> > learn to shag.
> 
> 
> Wander into any bar in Myrtle Beach, SC & there's someone there who can 
> teach you. I learned in just a few minutes as a teenager, so anyone should 
> be able to learn the Shag.

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Lads, I suspect you might be talking about two different shags.
As I've written in my earlier response:

I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different 
from Carolina Shag).


Based on the location, background and the music mentioned, I suspect Larry 
is talking about the former (which is a bit more upbeat and somewhere 
between popular in Europe Boogie-Woogie and Charleston of 30's-40's and is 
usually  danced to fast swing jazz music), while John is talking about the 
latter, which is closer to West Coast Swing (looks very much like a fast 
West Coast) and is danced to more pop/rock-n-roll/... -sounding music.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegiate_shag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTnxCBfOcNU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_shag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l5pczCZw04

BTW, there is also St.Louis Shag that I had not seen before, which is
the closest of all shags to Charleston:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JHQSCt1Zbk
If I didn't know about it being St.Louis Shag, I would've called it
Charleston.


Cheers,

Igor


 John Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:29:09 -0800 wrote:

On 11/15/2018 12:44, l...@red4est.com wrote:

Nope, those aren't shaggable either. Actually, for me nothing is. I 
might be able to fake balboa, but I'd need at least a few minutes to 
learn to shag.



Wander into any bar in Myrtle Beach, SC & there's someone there who can 
teach you. I learned in just a few minutes as a teenager, so anyone should 
be able to learn the Shag.




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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Bruce Walker
They probably just haven't figured out how to avoid blown-out
reflections in the glass! :-)

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:26 PM  wrote:
>
> The e-passport system works most of the time, but it's not infallible, as my
> wife found out in Europe this year.  It's also a bit of a nuisance to have
> to take off your glasses, cap/hat, etc. when using it.  Why authorities
> insist on having passport photos without glasses for people who wear them
> all the time is beyond me.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: PDML  On Behalf Of John Francis
> > Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 10:34 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Subject: Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship"
> APS-C-
> > camera line?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:49:48AM -0500, John wrote:
> > > On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:
> > > > IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax
> honcho
> > > > said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
> > > >
> > > > It???s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office
> equipment
> > > > companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> > > > documents.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ironic in light of the increasing demand for physical photo-IDs.
> >
> > I think that rather depends on where you are.
> >
> > I recently had to renew my (British) passport.  Not only was I able to
> submit
> > my photograph as a digital image - the passport itself also contains an
> > encoded
> > form of the image, readable electronically.  And apparently at some UK
> > airports
> > I could just walk up with the passport in hand, place it on the desk, and
> look
> > into a camera.  My digital image from the camera would be checked against
> > the
> > biometric data encoded in the pasport, and if everything checked out I
> would
> > be able to proceed through the gate.  I'm sure there would be somebody
> > present
> > to supervise things, but the whole verification process would be done
> > digitally.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread jcoyle
The e-passport system works most of the time, but it's not infallible, as my
wife found out in Europe this year.  It's also a bit of a nuisance to have
to take off your glasses, cap/hat, etc. when using it.  Why authorities
insist on having passport photos without glasses for people who wear them
all the time is beyond me.


John in Brisbane



> -Original Message-
> From: PDML  On Behalf Of John Francis
> Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 10:34 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship"
APS-C-
> camera line?
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:49:48AM -0500, John wrote:
> > On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:
> > > IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax
honcho
> > > said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
> > >
> > > It???s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office
equipment
> > > companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> > > documents.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> >
> > Ironic in light of the increasing demand for physical photo-IDs.
> 
> I think that rather depends on where you are.
> 
> I recently had to renew my (British) passport.  Not only was I able to
submit
> my photograph as a digital image - the passport itself also contains an
> encoded
> form of the image, readable electronically.  And apparently at some UK
> airports
> I could just walk up with the passport in hand, place it on the desk, and
look
> into a camera.  My digital image from the camera would be checked against
> the
> biometric data encoded in the pasport, and if everything checked out I
would
> be able to proceed through the gate.  I'm sure there would be somebody
> present
> to supervise things, but the whole verification process would be done
> digitally.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread jcoyle
I had a client for whom I wrote a training section management program, part of 
the output of which was joining instructions for the trainees.  Whenever there 
was an error or issue with the detail, the whole lot would be reprinted and the 
waste thrown in a bin, which I collected from time to time.. Now, twenty years 
later, I'm still using the printed-on-one-side only waste for internal test 
reports!


John in Brisbane



> -Original Message-
> From: PDML  On Behalf Of Igor PDML-StR
> Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 2:28 AM
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-
> camera line?
> 
> 
> 
> In my experience, consumer computing technologies gave boost to
> higher paper consumption, including very frequently senseless paper waste.
> In the era of typewriters, for a few errors, people would use a
> white-out, and only occasionally would reprint the entire page. With
> computers, people thoughtlessly reprint the entire 10-20 page-long
> because of a minor typo on page 19. ... and then once more, and
> then again.
> 
> 
> But often, the higher paper consumption does help productivity.
> Guilty as charged: while preparing grant proposals or publications, or
> reviewing those of others, - most of the time I do that on paper.
> It's just much easier to see things, and you can have many pages in view
> (if you have a large table or couch).
> 
> So, I was very surprised to hear about the paper being the reason
> for the office-product companies' financial problems.
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
>   Bruce Walker Thu, 15 Nov 2018 05:40:48 -0800 wrote:
> 
> When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
> word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
> and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
> be obsolete.
> 
> 
> When I wrapped up my full time career in 2010 I worked in the Toronto
> office of a San Francisco wireless firm (Soma Networking) and was
> located not far from a big honking multi copier/printer (possibly a
> Ricoh) that churned out documents all the time. This despite that all
> meetings featured a table full of laptops and tablets.
> 
> "Paperless office". Pffft. :-)
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:43 AM Rick Womer  wrote:
> >
> > It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
> > companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> > documents.
> >
> > Rick
> 
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Re: Tripods

2018-11-15 Thread John

Still, to paraphrase a certain old book "That which was lost now has been 
found."

On 11/15/2018 19:45, P. J. Alling wrote:
You do realize that you haven't really saved any money...  What you've done is 
not spent more money.



On 11/15/2018 1:18 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Sandy Harris wrote on 11/14/18 9:43 PM:

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:27 PM Larry Colen  wrote:


My tripod has disappeared. I've searched ...



... replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford.
Are there any amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?


When I'm in Canada, I visit various thrift stores quite often. They
routinely have tripods, usually dirt cheap & some are from respectable
brands. I've no idea if they'd have what you need, but it might be
worth looking. 


Usually the tripods in thrift stores aren't worth the postage to mail them 
across town, however, there's always the chance of someone not knowing what 
they are throwing away.  It's definitely worth learning what to look for and 
keeping your eyes open.


In an amazing bit of good luck, mine was turned in to lost and found and has 
been recovered.  Yay!


With all the money I saved not having to replace a lost tripod and head, I 
could buy a really nice ball head or gimbal mount.












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Re: Tripods

2018-11-15 Thread P. J. Alling
You do realize that you haven't really saved any money...  What you've 
done is not spent more money.



On 11/15/2018 1:18 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Sandy Harris wrote on 11/14/18 9:43 PM:

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:27 PM Larry Colen  wrote:


My tripod has disappeared. I've searched ...



... replacement cost is quite a bit more than I can pretend to afford.
Are there any amazing deals on tripod bases or arca-swiss heads?


When I'm in Canada, I visit various thrift stores quite often. They
routinely have tripods, usually dirt cheap & some are from respectable
brands. I've no idea if they'd have what you need, but it might be
worth looking. 


Usually the tripods in thrift stores aren't worth the postage to mail 
them across town, however, there's always the chance of someone not 
knowing what they are throwing away.  It's definitely worth learning 
what to look for and keeping your eyes open.


In an amazing bit of good luck, mine was turned in to lost and found 
and has been recovered.  Yay!


With all the money I saved not having to replace a lost tripod and 
head, I could buy a really nice ball head or gimbal mount.









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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:42:57AM +0100, Rick Womer wrote:
> IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
> said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.

I'm still hoping that this product will eventually materialise.

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:49:48AM -0500, John wrote:
> On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:
> > IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
> > said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
> > 
> > It???s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
> > companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> > documents.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> 
> Ironic in light of the increasing demand for physical photo-IDs.

I think that rather depends on where you are.

I recently had to renew my (British) passport.  Not only was I able to submit
my photograph as a digital image - the passport itself also contains an encoded
form of the image, readable electronically.  And apparently at some UK airports
I could just walk up with the passport in hand, place it on the desk, and look
into a camera.  My digital image from the camera would be checked against the
biometric data encoded in the pasport, and if everything checked out I would
be able to proceed through the gate.  I'm sure there would be somebody present
to supervise things, but the whole verification process would be done digitally.



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Re: GESO: Pow Wow

2018-11-15 Thread PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com
Thank You Daniel. It was a great Pow Wow and nice seeing folks that one 
sees each year. Charlie is 83 and still getting out there dancing.


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Wonderful subjects and great images!

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/11/18, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty & Bob - you can just go ahead and get your minds out of the gutter
>right now.

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Vivian Maier in colour

2018-11-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/what-vivian-maier-saw-in-color


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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread John

On 11/15/2018 16:18, mike wilson wrote:

On 15 November 2018 at 20:33 Larry Colen  wrote:




mike wilson wrote on 11/14/18 11:22 PM:

Nobody going for Fun Boy 8 (ft. Banarama)?


Fun Boy 8 sounds like it would be an account name on grindr.



I misremembered anyway.  Was thinking that a group called Fun Boy 3 (but
there were eight cubs) released a version of "The lion sleeps tonight" but it
was these one hit wonders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_Fit

Even grindry.



As far as I can tell "Fun Boy 3" were NO HIT wonders.

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread John

On 11/15/2018 12:44, l...@red4est.com wrote:




Nope, those aren't shaggable either. Actually, for me nothing is. I might be
able to fake balboa, but I'd need at least a few minutes to learn to shag.


Wander into any bar in Myrtle Beach, SC & there's someone there who can teach 
you. I learned in just a few minutes as a teenager, so anyone should be able to 
learn the Shag.


Cotty & Bob - you can just go ahead and get your minds out of the gutter right 
now.

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread mike wilson
> On 15 November 2018 at 20:33 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mike wilson wrote on 11/14/18 11:22 PM:
> > Nobody going for Fun Boy 8 (ft. Banarama)?
> 
> Fun Boy 8 sounds like it would be an account name on grindr.
> 

I misremembered anyway.  Was thinking that a group called Fun Boy 3 (but there 
were eight cubs) released a version of "The lion sleeps tonight" but it was 
these one hit wonders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_Fit

Even grindry.

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
This is the way to do it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZlLUf6sewI=youtu.be



On 15 Nov 2018, at 20:31, Daniel J. Matyola 
mailto:danmaty...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Remember that the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is just a whim
away.

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote on 11/15/18 12:30 PM:

Remember that the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is just a whim
away.


And that is why we call you Hakuna Matyola.

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread Larry Colen



mike wilson wrote on 11/14/18 11:22 PM:

Nobody going for Fun Boy 8 (ft. Banarama)?


Fun Boy 8 sounds like it would be an account name on grindr.



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Re: GESO: Pow Wow

2018-11-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful subjects and great images!

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> I am happy to say that I have edited and uploaded photographic captures
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> scared memory of the dancers, their colorful regalia, their respect for
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> wonderful smell and taste of fry bread.
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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Remember that the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is just a whim
away.

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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Huh?

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On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 2:23 AM mike wilson  wrote:

> Nobody going for Fun Boy 8 (ft. Banarama)?
>
>
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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread lrc


On November 15, 2018 9:26:53 AM PST, John  wrote:
>On 11/15/2018 08:06, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> "Dance this mess around!"   ;-)
>> https://youtu.be/VN8hV4AyNss?t=7
>> 
>
>Except you can't dance "the shag" to that. You're going to need another
>Atlanta 
>band:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9GyJ9dhMgY
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tams
>
>OR maybe ...
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwlqi4qtLIs

Nope, those aren't shaggable either. Actually, for me nothing is. I might be 
able to fake balboa, but I'd need at least a few minutes to learn to shag.
>
>(... and now you've got me started, I won't be able to get a single
>thing done 
>for the rest of the day; might as well take rest of the day off and go
>to the 
>beach.)

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread John

On 11/15/2018 08:06, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


:-)

"Dance this mess around!"   ;-)
https://youtu.be/VN8hV4AyNss?t=7



Except you can't dance "the shag" to that. You're going to need another Atlanta 
band:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9GyJ9dhMgY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tams

OR maybe ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwlqi4qtLIs

(... and now you've got me started, I won't be able to get a single thing done 
for the rest of the day; might as well take rest of the day off and go to the 
beach.)



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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread John

On 11/15/2018 08:39, Bruce Walker wrote:

When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
be obsolete.

When I wrapped up my full time career in 2010 I worked in the Toronto
office of a San Francisco wireless firm (Soma Networking) and was
located not far from a big honking multi copier/printer (possibly a
Ricoh) that churned out documents all the time. This despite that all
meetings featured a table full of laptops and tablets.

"Paperless office". Pffft. :-)



At least once a week I get something in the mail from someone wanting me to 
switch to "paperless" record keeping. They can forget it.


If I need to get rid of the paper I have a good shredder. Until it's time to 
shred them, I've got records of my transactions.


PS: I can make pulp from the shredded bills & form them into bricks or logs that 
after drying burn quite nicely in my woodstove.




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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread John

On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:

IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.

It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
documents.

Rick



Ironic in light of the increasing demand for physical photo-IDs.

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR



In my experience, consumer computing technologies gave boost to 
higher paper consumption, including very frequently senseless paper waste.
In the era of typewriters, for a few errors, people would use a 
white-out, and only occasionally would reprint the entire page. With 
computers, people thoughtlessly reprint the entire 10-20 page-long 
because of a minor typo on page 19. ... and then once more, and 
then again.



But often, the higher paper consumption does help productivity.
Guilty as charged: while preparing grant proposals or publications, or 
reviewing those of others, - most of the time I do that on paper.
It's just much easier to see things, and you can have many pages in view 
(if you have a large table or couch).


So, I was very surprised to hear about the paper being the reason
for the office-product companies' financial problems.

Igor


 Bruce Walker Thu, 15 Nov 2018 05:40:48 -0800 wrote:

When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
be obsolete.


When I wrapped up my full time career in 2010 I worked in the Toronto
office of a San Francisco wireless firm (Soma Networking) and was
located not far from a big honking multi copier/printer (possibly a
Ricoh) that churned out documents all the time. This despite that all
meetings featured a table full of laptops and tablets.

"Paperless office". Pffft. :-)

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:43 AM Rick Womer  wrote:


It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
documents.

Rick


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Re: OT: Lion Cubs

2018-11-15 Thread ann sanfedele

Rockettes. :-)

Terrific shot - thanks for sharing

ann

On 11/15/2018 2:22 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Nobody going for Fun Boy 8 (ft. Banarama)?


On 14 November 2018 at 23:57 Bob W-PDML  wrote:


Nah. It's the Gipsy Kings of the jungle, doing Bambi Leo.


On 14 Nov 2018, at 18:16, mike wilson  wrote:

Looks like a solid line of Katy Perrys to me.


On 14 November 2018 at 14:18 Jostein  wrote:


If lions had music, that band would be either heavy metal or gangsta
rappers! :-)

Jostein

Den 14.11.2018 10:19, skrev Alan C:

We have a Facebook Pentax group in South Africa - PENTAX PHOTOGRAPHERS
SOUTH AFRICA

On of the members, Karin van Zyl, recently posted this amazing once in
a lifetime Lion Cub photo taken in the Pilanesberg Game Reserve. It is
currently the Banner Photo on Facebook & will be featured in a local
travel magazine "Weg" in January.. Most of the members photograph
nature in one form of another. Still many film adherents too!

https://web.facebook.com/groups/606970746122355/

Alan C

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Re: PESO Not Eggleston

2018-11-15 Thread ann sanfedele

Har!
I couldn't have resisted either..  fun shot

ann

On 11/15/2018 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
Spotted between Ballico and Livingston CA on my way to lunch, 
photographed on my way back to work:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/45888347381/in/album-72157703616181665/ 



Side note, to my great surprise the town of Livingston has an 
excellent Indian restaurant, Punjab sweets and restaurant. Much better 
than I'd ever expect of a Central California farm town of 13,000 that 
could be described as a suburb of Turlock.




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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Bruce Walker
When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
be obsolete.

When I wrapped up my full time career in 2010 I worked in the Toronto
office of a San Francisco wireless firm (Soma Networking) and was
located not far from a big honking multi copier/printer (possibly a
Ricoh) that churned out documents all the time. This despite that all
meetings featured a table full of laptops and tablets.

"Paperless office". Pffft. :-)

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:43 AM Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
> companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> documents.
>
> Rick

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Re: Tripods

2018-11-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Larry,
Next time you should loose (and then recover) something with a higher 
price tag, e.g. *-lens, diamonds, etc. so that you'd save much more.

That way you could afford buying the newest 645* camera. :)

Igor


Re: Tripods

Larry Colen Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:20:02 -0800 wrote:

...

In an amazing bit of good luck, mine was turned in to lost and found and 
has been recovered. Yay!



With all the money I saved not having to replace a lost tripod and head, I 
could buy a really nice ball head or gimbal mount.





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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR



:-)

"Dance this mess around!"   ;-)
https://youtu.be/VN8hV4AyNss?t=7



 Bob W-PDML Wed, 14 Nov 2018 23:39:17 -0800 wrote:

On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' - 
we say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.



On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from 
Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to (especially 
for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!


But how can you make a quick profit on cormorants (especially using the 
camera)?! That is impossible!

However, the PDML flock can be so flippant! ;)


Cheers,

Igor


Jostein Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:18:02 -0800 wrote:

What PDML needs is a shagflip camera.

Jostein




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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-15 Thread Rick Womer
IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.

It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
documents.

Rick

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 08:39 Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' -
> we say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.
>
>
>
> > On 15 Nov 2018, at 02:24, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different
> from Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
> > But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to
> (especially for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!
> >
> > But how can you make a quick profit on cormorants (especially using the
> camera)?! That is impossible!
> > However, the PDML flock can be so flippant! ;)
> >
> >
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