Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
On Oct 1, 2010, at 15:15 , Cotty wrote: On 1/10/10, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks Cotty, for helping to enlighten us all. I did no such thing! Ok then, you Way Cool'd us! :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
On 30 September 2010 08:03, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers. What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job? ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME? and YOURE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill! etc... Cory It looks like a very sympathetic installation to my eyes. First of all, the speaker enclosures are so well blended into their surroundings that they weren't easy to find. Secondly, they're not bracketed to the walls but suspended by wires that are almost invisible but revealed by their shadows. A speaker wire can be seen above each enclosure but there are three shadows, so two of those must be suspension wires. Those wires go to a ledge where the mounting points seem to be on the topside, out of sight from the floor. For real philistinism go to the British Museum and see collection numbers engraved prominently upon ancient treasures. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1 October 2010 21:19, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: For real philistinism go to the British Museum and see collection numbers engraved prominently upon ancient treasures. P.S. Repatriate the Elgin Marbles aka the Parthenon Marbles. Now. Don't give excuses, just send back the stolen goods. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
Anthony Farr wrote: On 1 October 2010 21:19, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: For real philistinism go to the British Museum and see collection numbers engraved prominently upon ancient treasures. P.S. Repatriate the Elgin Marbles aka the Parthenon Marbles. Now. Don't give excuses, just send back the stolen goods. The British Museum never sells, gives away or otherwise disposes of its assets. Unlike the Greek Government. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
The copyright symbol in the center floor hides the camera and mirrored parabolic tripod mounted device that allows this image to be made in two exposures, stitched at camera level. However, that's not the way it was done, if a bit of research is correct. According to the Spinatour website thousands of photos were taken over a period of three freezing nights and stitched together after color and light balancing. See the article at: http://spinatour.com/?p=35 Apparently, to enable zooming, they had to match hi-res images in several stages to the overall stitched image. Also apparently the camera(s) were located beneath the covering copyright symbol. Those taking the picture were Vatican interns from Villanova. Here is an outdoor image taken with the system, and it includes the camera and tripod: http://www.spinatour.com/clemsonamrl/tour.html An interior shot, with one scan being done in each room of Clemson's Telecom Center. On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:24 , Steven Desjardins wrote: Is there a program that will stitch something like this together given enough still? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 29/9/10, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just publish those picture publicly on the internets I think the URL kinda gives it away ;-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
On Oct 1, 2010, at 13:26 , Joseph McAllister wrote: The copyright symbol in the center floor hides the camera and mirrored parabolic tripod mounted device that allows this image to be made in two exposures, stitched at camera level. However, that's not the way it was done, if a bit of research is correct. According to the Spinatour website thousands of photos were taken over a period of three freezing nights and stitched together after color and light balancing. See the article at: http://spinatour.com/?p=35 Apparently, to enable zooming, they had to match hi-res images in several stages to the overall stitched image. Also apparently the camera(s) were located beneath the covering copyright symbol. Those taking the picture were Vatican interns from Villanova. Here is an outdoor image taken with the system, and it includes the camera and tripod: http://www.spinatour.com/clemsonamrl/tour.html An interior shot, with one scan being done in each room of Clemson's Telecom Center. And no link to it... http://www.spinatour.com/sys/scansource/tour.html Took me quite some time to find the speakers, which are painted to blend. But I did find many places where the restoration left untouched, plus hooks driven into the walls, etc. Nice and rare as it is, the chapel is still a working place of worship to the church. One of the articles I read today mentioned that the chapel art was degrading at a pace that makes those in charge feel that it must be closed to the public soon. Thanks Cotty, for helping to enlighten us all. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
On 1/10/10, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks Cotty, for helping to enlighten us all. I did no such thing! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
On Sep 29, 2010, at 17:03, Cory Waters wrote: I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers. What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job? ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME? and YOURE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill! etc... While I understand the sentiment... in this particular case I cannot for the life of me spot any speakers?? I see a railing with lights mounted on it, though.. When I was there in 1972/73 the whole room was filled with scaffolding as they were working on the (now-finished) restoration. It was not nearly this colorful and open. Only parts of the room were even visible. I have to imagine it is nerve-wracking to do any serious mechanical work near those walls/ceilings, though! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I visited about 10 years ago, and then again this February. The chapel is much more colorful than before the restoration. It is a magnificent -- and monumental -- work of art. Dan On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 17:03, Cory Waters wrote: I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers. What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job? ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME? and YOURE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill! etc... While I understand the sentiment... in this particular case I cannot for the life of me spot any speakers?? I see a railing with lights mounted on it, though.. When I was there in 1972/73 the whole room was filled with scaffolding as they were working on the (now-finished) restoration. It was not nearly this colorful and open. Only parts of the room were even visible. I have to imagine it is nerve-wracking to do any serious mechanical work near those walls/ceilings, though! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm not a devout man, to say the least. But, this is moving. -- Walt On 9/28/2010 3:47 PM, Cotty wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29/9/10, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just publish those picture publicly on the internets I think the URL kinda gives it away ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Is there a program that will stitch something like this together given enough still? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 29/9/10, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just publish those picture publicly on the internets I think the URL kinda gives it away ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers. What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job? ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME? and YOURE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill! etc... Cory On 9/28/2010 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I kept thinking the same thing at numerous sites in Rome that obviously had not been planned for electric lights, air conditioning, etc. Who did the retrofit! We were there in 2009. The Chapel speakers are used for periodic announcements asking visitors to be respectful, to be quiet, and to not take photographs. The announcements are somewhat drowned out by the noise of camera shutters and people talking. But it is a marvelous place if you can ignore the noise. The virtual visit Cotty pointed us to is great but being there in person makes the lines and crowds and noise level all worthwhile. stan On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Cory Waters wrote: I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers. What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job? ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME? and YOURE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill! etc... Cory On 9/28/2010 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Probably had the guy that painted the ceiling do it while he was up there... :-) -p On 9/29/2010 5:03 PM, Cory Waters wrote: I want to know who had to drill the anchor points and rig those speakers. What were the guys faces like when somebody asked them to do that job? ARE YOU EFFING Kidding ME? and YOURE OUT OF YOUR EFFING MIND if you think I'm driving into the parking lot of that place with a hammer drill! etc... Cory On 9/28/2010 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3166 - Release Date: 09/29/10 00:37:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-09-28 14:47 , Cotty wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html first of all, this is totally NSFW -- sex organs all over the place second, it sets a fairly high standard for the October PUG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Sistine Chapel
This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Amazing. Thanks for the link. Paul On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Cotty wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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: OT - Sistine Chapel This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html Charlton Heston was such a great painter. Pity he gave it up for the motorway service station business. Leonardo da Vinci said Charltonangelo's muscular male figures looked like a bag of walnuts. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a definite Wow! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2010 6:48 AM To: pentax list Subject: OT - Sistine Chapel This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Sistine Chapel
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 22:47, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html Oh my gods, that is Vatican Church View. Call the data protection agencies there must be something wrong here. Clearly you can't just publish those picture publicly on the internets Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Totally cool! Loved the music too. Thanks for posting. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: OT - Sistine Chapel This has to be classed as totally cool. http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
