I think I did say something about not showing this to womens lib and
using it in Norway, but not many responded...
Apart from that I agree.
DagT
På lørdag, 18. oktober 2003, kl. 22:18, skrev Jostein:
You guys...
Of course it is sad that (our beloved...?) Pentax can resort to
marketing
- Original Message -
From: Butch Black
Subject: Re: *ist-D ad claimed to be sexistic
I think the thing that bothers me most about the ad is that there is so
little useful info on the *ist-D,
This is now the thrust of advertising. Look at how many car ads now talk
about feature
As long as they don't show a nude *ist D I don't see what is a problem
with that.
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 19:17, Ryan Charron wrote:
News Alert!!
The National Photo Enquirer is also reporting that
several of the photographers who complained about the
Pentax ad admitted to doing photo shoots
Okay, I almost decided to stay completely out of it.
But, really briefly, yeah, I am female and I find the ad sexist. Disappointed
in Pentax.
I usually do when there is an undressed woman with a fully dressed man. And
especially when that depiction is used to sell something.
Marnie aka Doe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But, really briefly, yeah, I am female and I find the ad
sexist. Disappointed in Pentax.
I usually do when there is an undressed woman with a fully
dressed man. And especially when that depiction is used to
sell something.
It's a dated style of advertising and
I agree it isn't good marketing, but I don't think its offensive,
either, unless one is seeking things about which to take offense.
frank theriault wrote:
C'mon, Dan,
This isn't about political correctness. It's about marketing.
Steve Desjardins wrote:
. Sadly, however, I found myself staring at
the picture of the *istD with lust . . .
That is sad. Allow me to express my condolences.
graywolf wrote:
Damn the ad is racist too,
Huh? Please explain.
As a Land-Rover owner for 20+ years, I note Land-Rover hits the right
advertising notes, many from the past which I have collected. The 80s
Range-Rover advert showing a Range-Rover fording a river with the caption
'We brake for fish', was amusing, inoffensive and attention grabbing, and
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P.S. then again, i guess, i wouldn't mind holding a bunch of bags for a
lady with a perfect body
(not neccessarily an *istD), provided, i get to play with it afterwards.
ROTFL
Nice one Mishka. You and me too, buddy!
I knew what you meant.
Cheers,
C'mon, Dan,
This isn't about political correctness. It's about marketing.
Pentax and their ad agency can say anything they want to in their ads.
Whether you or I might be offended doesn't mean much in the overall scheme
of things. But pissing off huge segments of the population (women,
You guys...
Of course it is sad that (our beloved...?) Pentax can resort to marketing
strategies that can actually offend some groups of people. I totally agree
that this ad could be seen as sexist prejudice. Even if I didn't react to it
myself.
Now, just one question to all of you critics. How
Cotty wrote:
On 18/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Pentax and their ad agency can say anything they want to in their ads.
Whether you or I might be offended doesn't mean much in the overall scheme
of things. But pissing off huge segments of the population (women,
sensitive new age
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Tainter
Subject: Re: Breaking News: Re: *ist-D ad claimed to be sexistic
Re: The Sexist D:
What I notice about the ad is that they are advertising only cheap FAJ
lenses to go with the camera. Why does Pentax do things like this? Do
they think
HAR! Now we know what that damn asterisk stands for.
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Re: The Sexist D:
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graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
On 18 Oct 2003 at 16:47, Cotty wrote:
BTW, I'm not new age or pinko or anything else - just a regular guy but
come on - this ad would be seen by many as crossing the boundary! Imagine
if there was a jibe at war-dead or worse, Leica users!
Nor am I offended by the images however the inference
I think the thing that bothers me most about the ad is that there is so
little useful info on the *ist-D, so the main emphasis of the ad is sex. The
image, apart from the ad, is fairly mild. I have seen ads as sexy in
Shutterbug. The ad for a background company with a seated leggy blond in a
short
Anders posted:
In last week's issue of Resumé, the Swedish weekly magazine for the
advertizing business, there is a full page article where a long list of
female photographers accuse Pentax of being sexistic in their adverts for
the new *ist-D. They make clear that because of this ad,
On 17/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
In last week's issue of Resumé, the Swedish weekly magazine for the
advertizing business, there is a full page article where a long list of
female photographers accuse Pentax of being sexistic in their adverts for
the new *ist-D. They make clear that
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The ad looks more like an ad for underwear or perfume than for a $1700
camera, really. Another bizarre thing about it is that it says for your
precious moments across the picture. Not a tagline aimed towards pros,
I'd think.
anders
Bad news Anders, the
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Yesterday I saw the same ad in some German photo magazine, and the text was
all in German - a friend of mine (Sylwek :-) said it read exactly what you
wrote - a perfect body with perfect accessories. Maybe in German the
relation of body (camera) to body
Hi,
Friday, October 17, 2003, 5:38:09 PM, you wrote:
On 17/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Yesterday I saw the same ad in some German photo magazine, and the text was
all in German - a friend of mine (Sylwek :-) said it read exactly what you
wrote - a perfect body with perfect accessories.
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ROTFL. You're kidding me. Really? I can't believe that!
I can. I can't remember the last time I saw a Pentax ad that had
anything to do with any Pentax product.
-tih
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Hi Cotty,
on 17 Oct 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
Bad news Anders, the *ist D is not aimed at the professional market.
But it is black! vbg
Cheers, Heiko
A perfect body with all the right accessories
sounds like a *very* clever ad line to me.
best,
mishka
- Original Message -
From: mishka
Subject: Re: *ist-D ad claimed to be sexistic
A perfect body with all the right accessories
sounds like a *very* clever ad line to me.
I found it terribly offensive.
That man standing there holding a bunch of handbags for the lady.
Obviously, he
I thought they were extra bras... huh... seemed logical to me.
Does even now, looking at the picture again for the 4th time...
Arnold would appreciate those buns, I'll bet... g
keith whaley
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: mishka
Subject: Re: *ist-D ad claimed
John Francis:
The complaint is just as bad as the original ad - possibly even worse.
A long list of *female* photographers? Why is there this assumption
that only females might find the advertisement offensive, or that only
the opinion of female photographers is worth reporting?
The
I think the ad was intended to be humorous and to grab attention. It
certainly does the latter.
I'm not sure how effective it is, but I don't see it as offensive.
Do we always have to be politically correct?
i have to admit, i haven't seen the ad. but , from the description,
once you put it *that* way -- i have to agree. VBG
mishka
P.S. then again, i guess, i wouldn't mind holding a bunch of bags for a
lady with a perfect body
(not neccessarily an *istD), provided, i get to play with it afterwards.
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