Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Stan said: Not exactly an explanation of when/why to use the Green Button, but of course you get that in your initial familiarization from the clerk at the store where you buy the camera... Did you intentionally leave out the smiley? :) When I bought my K100D Super (1st DSLR purchase) the

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-24 Thread Stan Halpin
On Sep 24, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Stan said: Not exactly an explanation of when/why to use the Green Button, but of course you get that in your initial familiarization from the clerk at the store where you buy the camera... Did you intentionally leave

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-21 Thread Zos Xavius
-Original Message- From: P.J. Alling Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc) It's not that the lenses have to be coded, the aperture is inconsistent with the movement of the stop down lever in pre A lenses

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-20 Thread Alan C
: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc) when I use the green button metering/setting, its only to get me in the ballpark. I then fine tune the exposure with either and or both the shutter speed and aperture setting using

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-20 Thread P.J. Alling
buggering around I have decided to get rid of all my pre-FA lenses move with the times. AF AV makes life a hell of a lot easier. Alan C -Original Message- From: JC OConnell Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-20 Thread Alan C
-engineering the lens innards is the only sure solution. Some fanatics have actually done just that. I may well have done so too if I was into this 10 years ago. Alan C -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Get

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Alan C
with great success). And I agree - get the cameras in the shops - it's almost Christmas. Alan C -Original Message- From: John Celio Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 7:14 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Get with the times Ricoh is not going to bring back the aperture simulator. Give it up

Re: Get with the times

2014-09-19 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com: Ricoh is not going to bring back the aperture simulator. Give it up and stop whining about it already! Supporting old lenses is not good for business, no matter how many old farts like JCO try to insist otherwise. Ricoh is in the business of

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Darren Addy
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: If people really want to use pre-A lenses, they can easily work in M mode and use Sunny 16 like we all did long ago ( waste no film). Pentax has actually given us a lot more than that. Most everyone knows that the Green Button can

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Darren Addy
I realize that this feature goes back to some Pentax film cameras since the mid-80s, but it (along with Hyper Program) is another example of a great Pentax innovation that is kept under the radar by the inscrutable marketing of Pentax. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Darren Addy

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: If people really want to use pre-A lenses, they can easily work in M mode and use Sunny 16 like we all did long ago ( waste no film). Pentax has actually given us a

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Darren Addy
Errr good point, John. as you were On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: If people really want to use pre-A lenses, they can easily

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Pentax has definitely failed to promote the Green button. To me it's just a Mystery Button that I could just as easily cover over with black electrical tape. After it got talked about here a few years ago, I made the effort to read up on it. The manual left me scratching my head, but folks here

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread JC OConnell
when I use the green button metering/setting, its only to get me in the ballpark. I then fine tune the exposure with either and or both the shutter speed and aperture setting using the histogram/lcd. works for me. jco On 9/19/2014 4:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Pentax has definitely failed to

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread steve harley
on 2014-09-19 14:38 Bruce Walker wrote I think the issue with the manual is there's no overview or Big Picture -- why it was added. perhaps we could crowd source an improved manual here? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Attila Boros
There is something about this here: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/k-3/feature/03.html Scroll down to Hyper Control system. But it's not mentioned in the K-3 manual. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I realize that this feature goes back

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread P.J. Alling
The green button is a mystery because it does so many different things. In manual mode it recenters everything press the green button while holding down the exposure compensation button it resets that control to zero, it does that with a number of setting, press it down while holding down the

Re: Get with the times (FF DSLR, etc)

2014-09-19 Thread Stan Halpin
In the K-3 manual, see page 11 and page 73, primarily focused on the choices and processes involved in customizing the various buttons and E-dials. Not exactly an explanation of when/why to use the Green Button, but of course you get that in your initial familiarization from the clerk at the

Get with the times

2014-09-18 Thread John Celio
Ricoh is not going to bring back the aperture simulator. Give it up and stop whining about it already! Supporting old lenses is not good for business, no matter how many old farts like JCO try to insist otherwise. Ricoh is in the business of selling cameras and NEW lenses, and their profits lie

Re: Get with the times

2014-09-18 Thread Darren Addy
I do not agree with JC's whining but I will defend, to the death, his Right to Whine. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh is not going to bring back the aperture simulator. Give it up and stop whining about it already! Supporting old lenses

Re: Get with the times

2014-09-18 Thread Larry Colen
John Celio wrote: Ricoh is not going to bring back the aperture simulator. Give it up and stop whining about it already! Supporting old lenses is not good for business, no matter how many old farts like JCO try to insist otherwise. Ricoh is in the business of selling cameras and NEW lenses,

Re: Get with the times

2014-09-18 Thread Ken Waller
I will defend, to the death, his Right to Whine. Red or white? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Get with the times I do not agree with JC's whining but I will defend

Re: Get with the times

2014-09-18 Thread Boris Liberman
- Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Get with the times I do not agree with JC's whining but I will defend, to the death, his Right to Whine. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: Ricoh is not going to bring

Re: Get with the times

2014-09-18 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/9/14, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: There is one simple feature that the Pentax DSLRs lack that would increase sales more than anything else that they could possibly do, get the cameras into stores where people can see them in person and buy them. Nail - head. --