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2012-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 10, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Bob W wrote: I should know as I am an alumni of the University of Cambridge. But not a Latin scholar, obviously... Drives me nuts when I see that on window decals and bumper stickers. It appears English usage has evolved beyond the Latin in this instance. The

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2012-06-11 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hey Bob, LATIN is RIP. It is a dead language. Even the Catholic Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. But here is a lovely LATIN Prayer I learnt long time ago at public school. Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mu-li-eri-bus, Et benedictus fructus ventris tui,

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2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Latin's a dead language, as dead as it can be. First it killed the Romans, and now it's killing me. -some anonymous school boy. Bipin Gupta wrote: Hey Bob, LATIN is RIP. It is a dead language. Even the Catholic Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. But here is a lovely LATIN

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2012-06-11 Thread Bruce Walker
English appears to be a dead language too. LOL! WTF? etc. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Latin's a dead language, as dead as it can be. First it killed the Romans, and now it's killing me.  -some anonymous school boy. Bipin Gupta wrote:

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta Hey Bob, LATIN is RIP. It is a dead language. Even the Catholic Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. Nevertheless, even in English 'alumni' is not the word you're looking for. But here is a

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2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect Bruce Walker wrote: English appears to be a dead language too. LOL! WTF? etc. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Latin's a dead

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans are descended from chimps. That it is to say, not. They have a common ancestor. B Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect Bruce Walker wrote: English

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2012-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bipin Gupta Hey Bob, LATIN is RIP. It is a dead language. Even the Catholic Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. But here is a lovely LATIN Prayer I learnt long time ago at public school. Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mu-li-eri-bus, Et benedictus

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2012-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect We prefer the term hybrid vigor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

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2012-06-11 Thread Tim Bray
Actually, if you go through an etymological dictionary and count the inheritance of English words, various flavors of Frisian are the leader by a fairly wide margin. French is right up there too. But I agree that the “bastard child” explanation, naming only two languages, is unduly limiting.

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2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
OK. Proto Frisian... Bob W wrote: It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans are descended from chimps. That it is to say, not. They have a common ancestor. B Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: 11 June 2012 19:57 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! Actually, if you go through an etymological dictionary and count the inheritance of English words, various flavors of Frisian are the leader by a fairly wide margin

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 11 June 2012 20:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! OK. Proto Frisian... Bob W wrote: It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans are descended from chimps

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2012-06-11 Thread Tim Bray
...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 11 June 2012 20:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! OK.  Proto Frisian... Bob W wrote: It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans are descended from chimps. That it is to say

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 11 June 2012 20:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! OK.  Proto Frisian... Bob W wrote: It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans

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2012-06-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Isnt English a Germanic language?? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT OM-D

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
a great deal unexplained. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! Actually, if you go through an etymological dictionary

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Latin est a mortuus lingua ut mortuus ut potest esse Illud occidit omnem romanos et nunc suus occidere me Modicum de Caesar Paulo Cicero Iuvat ad replete locis ubi insanis populum

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2012-06-11 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-10 17:11 Steven Desjardins wrote Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5. The Nikon is twice the mass as well. The OMD is a small camera and the D7000 isn't. This kind of trade off is a very personal thing so it's hard to make a definitive argument, but lots of folks

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2012-06-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
m43 lenses are still a bit limited in range, as noted elsewhere, but many are commensurate in size with the bodies. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-06-10 17:11 Steven Desjardins wrote Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5.  The

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2012-06-10 Thread Boris Liberman
I'd say you're slightly taller than her... I'd also be so bold as to omit the double quotes around the word slightly. Yet I literally see your point. In fact, this kind of vagueness is what fascinates me the most about English(*) language and English culture. (*) I denote by English not only

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2012-06-10 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hello Boris, I am truly sorry for quoting the Editor of Better Photography magazine w/o actually checking the camera sizes. The Editor did exaggerate the size given his concern for the price and much smaller sensor of the Olympus OM-D. So here is the size comparison from camerasize.com:- Nikon

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2012-06-10 Thread Bob W
I should know as I am an alumni of the University of Cambridge. But not a Latin scholar, obviously... B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta Sent: 10 June 2012 17:22 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT OM-D OMG

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2012-06-10 Thread William Robb
On 10/06/2012 10:22 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: I agree on the beauty of the English language Boris, and how easy it is to twist you into thinking you are being praised, when it could be just the opposite. I should know as I am an alumni of the University of Cambridge. But only people with

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2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Which one were you, Bill? Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5. The Nikon is twice the mass as well. The OMD is a small camera and the D7000 isn't. This kind of trade off is a very personal thing so it's hard to make a definitive argument, but lots of folks have opted for

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2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK, here's the comparison ;-( http://camerasize.com/compare/#7,289 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Which one were you, Bill? Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5.  The Nikon is twice the mass as well.  The OMD is a small camera and

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2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Boris, I'm not sure this is subtlety of the English language but rather a stupid comment by the reviewer. ;-) On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say you're slightly taller than her... I'd also be so bold as to omit the double quotes around the word

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2012-06-10 Thread P. J. Alling
As long as you're there, if you want to have some fun, compare the Oly E-5 to the OM-D... Steven Desjardins wrote: OK, here's the comparison ;-( http://camerasize.com/compare/#7,289 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Which one were you, Bill?

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2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow. I didn't know the E5 was that big. I admit this website is a favorite of mine and gets a lot of use. Of course, Pentax has one of the best size ranges: http://camerasize.com/compare/#211,190 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: As long as

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2012-06-09 Thread Derby Chang
I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat so they can keep making gear like this. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_06/12_06_om-d/index.htm After the battery ran out, switched back to the

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2012-06-09 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Sent: June 9, 2012 6/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT OM-D OMG! I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat so they can keep making gear like

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2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Derby, on the screen, in web size files it does not look any different than your other street photography, be it m43 or Pentax or other gear you have and use. I reckon, the OMG comes from something that does not immediately show on the web size files... Specifically, I wonder about the

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2012-06-09 Thread William Robb
On 09/06/2012 11:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Derby, on the screen, in web size files it does not look any different than your other street photography, be it m43 or Pentax or other gear you have and use. Other than the busy bokeh.. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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2012-06-09 Thread Fernando
Enjoyed them all, nice stuff. Particularly the one with the smoker. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat so they can keep

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2012-06-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Derby Chang wrote: I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat so they can keep making gear like this. I'll be very interested to read your longer term review on it.

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2012-06-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like Walk like an Egyptian (nokton/07) and the two skateboards (nokton/06). Great stuff! On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie

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2012-06-09 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hello Larry, just got the June issue of Better Photography magazine, where there is an excellent review of the Olympus OM-D. The PLUS points are: quick AF, good image quality from a small 17.3 x 13 mm live MOS sensor, customisability. MINUS point are: small buttons, price. Final Ratings are:

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2012-06-09 Thread Anthony Farr
On 10 June 2012 04:04, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/06/2012 11:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Derby, on the screen, in web size files it does not look any different than your other street photography, be it m43 or Pentax or other gear you have and use. Other than the

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2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/9/2012 22:24, Bipin Gupta wrote: The Editor says that if you do not mind a slightly bigger size, then the Nikon D7000 beats the Olympus hollow. Oh the beauty of English language. Without any intent to start a fight or flame I submit to the court a question - how slightly bigger???

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2012-06-09 Thread William Robb
On 09/06/2012 10:16 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: (*) For my personal understanding what Slightly means... May be I am wrong all the way... As you can see, I am slightly larger than Annsan http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/7da01815.html -- William Robb -- PDML