Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread steve harley
and here it is in the words of the great Bruce Fraser: http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=608637 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Paul, it's a Lightroom feature. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment. I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks David. So is there a way to see the radius change in PhotoShop? Paul On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:59 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Pressing the Alt key is a Lightroom thing. It works differently in Photoshop. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread David Parsons
Other than trying it out, not that I know of. I usually left it at 1.1-1.3 for most sharpening when I was using PS. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks David. So is there a way to see the radius change in PhotoShop? Paul On Nov 21, 2013, at

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's about what I did with the k-5, sometimes 1.5 for hard edge subjects like cars. Using much less with k-3. More like 0.5 at 40 percent. Paul via phone On Nov 21, 2013, at 8:17 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Other than trying it out, not that I know of. I usually left

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-11-21 17:56 Paul Stenquist wrote Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment. there was specific practical info, even a calculator, in my prior link Bruce Fraser's books, particularly Real World

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of change in radius adjustment on either Smart Sharpen or Unsharp

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Godfrey. I've been sharpening in PS after conversion but I'll give this a try. Paul via phone On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I can't get that radius adjustment

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The technique doesn't work with the post-raw-conversion RGB composite tools, only in the raw conversion plug-in. Doing overall input sharpening is generally better performed on the raw data as there is more overhead and more data to work with then. The RGB tools are best used for creative and

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread David Parsons
Pressing the Alt key is a Lightroom thing. It works differently in Photoshop. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment. I can't

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some nice theory here but no practical info. Have to buy the book for that I guess. Not that it wouldn't be a good investment. I can't get that radius adjustment mask to work on my Mac. Any clues? The alt key would seem to e option or command, but neither produces any kind of change in radius

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-11-18 16:40 Igor Roshchin wrote I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius? the principle is to sharpen the details you actually want to output these days i usually do it seat of the pants

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-19 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius? http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1951754seqNum=4 It really depends

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
, Threshold 3 levels. I adjust threshold downward to eliminate fringing. HTH Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Subject: Sharpening Radius? I thought I would ask the gurus of digital

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
Many thanks to all who responded! Both the hint (Alt-) and the links are very helpful. Igor Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:40:50 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose

Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-18 Thread Igor Roshchin
I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius? Yes, I read in the guides this: Radius: Controls the size of the edges you wish to enhance, where a smaller radius enhances smaller-scale detail. You'll

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-18 Thread David Parsons
Press and hold the Alt key while adjusting the Radius. It will show a high-pass looking overlay that shows the edges in the picture. As you slide the slider, the overlay will show you the effect of the changes. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I thought I

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I used .7 to .9 as a standard with my Pentax photos, it seemed to suit the AA filter in the DS and K10D bodies well, and worked well with the 'average detailing' of the subjects I was shooting. With some of the more recent cameras and my current lenses, with very light to no AA filter, I am

Re: Sharpening Radius?

2013-11-18 Thread Ken Waller
://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Subject: Sharpening Radius? I thought I would ask the gurus of digital processing here on PDML about this first. When you sharpen images, how do you choose the Radius? Yes, I read