Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread John 

IIRC, it made the trip in a little over three hours. It would be doable
flying east to west, with the time zones working for you. I think NYC is
5-6 hours behind Paris.

Going the other direction, it's already lunch time in Paris before you
even finish breakfast in NYC.


On 6/26/2016 10:08 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I may have gotten those cities backwards, I don't think the Concord was
that fast.

On 6/26/2016 10:05 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Reminds me of the Concorde poster I saw in Heathrow, Breakfast in New
York, Lunch in Paris.  Under which someone had scrawled Luggage in
Madrid.

On 6/26/2016 7:19 PM, John wrote:

He doesn't come over as obnoxious until after his gear gets spilled
on the tarmac. He does come over as not having done what he should to
prepare for flight.

As others have pointed out, he should have had a TSA approved lock on
the case & not having insurance is just begging to be screwed by the
airline.

OTOH ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Didn't happen to me, but I did once arrive at my destination to find out
none of my luggage, including my Martin 12 string, had made the
connection at O'Hare.

Fortunately, the guitar arrived safely several days later, so I was just
pissed off rather than heartbroken.

On 6/26/2016 1:30 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Only 20K worth of gear?  It's not that hard to carry 20K worth of gear.
All I have to say is how obnoxious was he?  I've only been forced to
check carry on luggage once, and that was in France.  Still, a really
awful performance on the part of American Airlines.  Makes me glad I
don't fly them.

On 6/26/2016 8:55 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/



I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we
just recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on
airplanes.


Igor

Sent from mobile phone

















--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling 
I may have gotten those cities backwards, I don't think the Concord was 
that fast.


On 6/26/2016 10:05 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Reminds me of the Concorde poster I saw in Heathrow, Breakfast in New 
York, Lunch in Paris.  Under which someone had scrawled Luggage in 
Madrid.


On 6/26/2016 7:19 PM, John wrote:
He doesn't come over as obnoxious until after his gear gets spilled 
on the tarmac. He does come over as not having done what he should to 
prepare for flight.


As others have pointed out, he should have had a TSA approved lock on
the case & not having insurance is just begging to be screwed by the
airline.

OTOH ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Didn't happen to me, but I did once arrive at my destination to find out
none of my luggage, including my Martin 12 string, had made the
connection at O'Hare.

Fortunately, the guitar arrived safely several days later, so I was just
pissed off rather than heartbroken.

On 6/26/2016 1:30 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Only 20K worth of gear?  It's not that hard to carry 20K worth of gear.
All I have to say is how obnoxious was he?  I've only been forced to
check carry on luggage once, and that was in France.  Still, a really
awful performance on the part of American Airlines.  Makes me glad I
don't fly them.

On 6/26/2016 8:55 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/ 




I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we
just recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on
airplanes.


Igor

Sent from mobile phone















--
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve 
immortality through not dying.
-- Woody Allen


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling 
Reminds me of the Concorde poster I saw in Heathrow, Breakfast in New 
York, Lunch in Paris.  Under which someone had scrawled Luggage in Madrid.


On 6/26/2016 7:19 PM, John wrote:
He doesn't come over as obnoxious until after his gear gets spilled on 
the tarmac. He does come over as not having done what he should to 
prepare for flight.


As others have pointed out, he should have had a TSA approved lock on
the case & not having insurance is just begging to be screwed by the
airline.

OTOH ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Didn't happen to me, but I did once arrive at my destination to find out
none of my luggage, including my Martin 12 string, had made the
connection at O'Hare.

Fortunately, the guitar arrived safely several days later, so I was just
pissed off rather than heartbroken.

On 6/26/2016 1:30 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Only 20K worth of gear?  It's not that hard to carry 20K worth of gear.
All I have to say is how obnoxious was he?  I've only been forced to
check carry on luggage once, and that was in France.  Still, a really
awful performance on the part of American Airlines.  Makes me glad I
don't fly them.

On 6/26/2016 8:55 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/ 




I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we
just recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on
airplanes.


Igor

Sent from mobile phone












--
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve 
immortality through not dying.
-- Woody Allen


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread John 
He doesn't come over as obnoxious until after his gear gets spilled on 
the tarmac. He does come over as not having done what he should to 
prepare for flight.


As others have pointed out, he should have had a TSA approved lock on
the case & not having insurance is just begging to be screwed by the
airline.

OTOH ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Didn't happen to me, but I did once arrive at my destination to find out
none of my luggage, including my Martin 12 string, had made the
connection at O'Hare.

Fortunately, the guitar arrived safely several days later, so I was just
pissed off rather than heartbroken.

On 6/26/2016 1:30 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Only 20K worth of gear?  It's not that hard to carry 20K worth of gear.
All I have to say is how obnoxious was he?  I've only been forced to
check carry on luggage once, and that was in France.  Still, a really
awful performance on the part of American Airlines.  Makes me glad I
don't fly them.

On 6/26/2016 8:55 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/


I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we
just recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on
airplanes.


Igor

Sent from mobile phone









--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist 
That's where I'm at. Pelican plus TSA locks. The case won't pop open. And 
insurance is a must. 

Paul via phone

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 1:21 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 07:55:01AM -0500, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> 
>> A horror story:
>> http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/
>> 
>> I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we just
>> recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on airplanes.
> 
> I have two rules:
> 
> 1) Pelican case, plus (TSA - approved) padlocks.
> 
> 2) My own insurance.
> 
> 
> The so-called "pro" photographer in the story above got half of the first one 
> right;
> at least he had a Pelican case.  But that's it.  If this had been my case it 
> wouldn't
> have popped open. And even if it had I wouldn't be fighting the airline over 
> a claim;
> my insurance company would have paid me (full replacement cost, less $500 
> deductible),
> and they'd be fighting the airline to get it to reimburse them.  If they won, 
> then it
> deductible would be repaid. This could well take six months or more (as it 
> just did
> with a claim when somebody backed out of a parking bay in a supermarket lot 
> right into
> my car, then tried to claim this was somehow my fault), but I wasn't waiting 
> for ages
> to get the repairs/replacement done.
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread Ken Waller 

A very good reason to use a strap around the case, just in case.

Reminds me of my experience a few days after 9/11 - I was in the Badlands 
for a week long photo shoot. On the day of my scheduled departure from Rapid 
City, the airline could not assure me that my 600mm would ride in the 
overhead, as it had done on my trip out. There was no way the 600 was going 
below! I rented a car and drove back to Detroit with it and my peace of 
mind. It was one of the fastest traverses I've ever experienced most of the 
traffic - it was relatively light - was running in the 85 to 100mph range.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org>

Subject: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit




A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/

I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we just 
recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on airplanes.



Igor



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread Rick Womer 
In Philly 80% of the flights are AA. The other airlines are no better
anyway.

Rick

On Sunday, June 26, 2016, P.J. Alling  wrote:

> Only 20K worth of gear?  It's not that hard to carry 20K worth of gear.
> All I have to say is how obnoxious was he?  I've only been forced to check
> carry on luggage once, and that was in France.  Still, a really awful
> performance on the part of American Airlines.  Makes me glad I don't fly
> them.
>
> On 6/26/2016 8:55 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
>>
>> A horror story:
>>
>> http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/
>>
>> I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we just
>> recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on airplanes.
>>
>>
>> Igor
>>
>> Sent from mobile phone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve
> immortality through not dying.
> -- Woody Allen
>
>
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.
>


-- 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread Sandy Harris 
The song "United Breaks Guitars"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread P.J. Alling 
Only 20K worth of gear?  It's not that hard to carry 20K worth of gear.  
All I have to say is how obnoxious was he?  I've only been forced to 
check carry on luggage once, and that was in France.  Still, a really 
awful performance on the part of American Airlines.  Makes me glad I 
don't fly them.


On 6/26/2016 8:55 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/ 



I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we 
just recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on 
airplanes.



Igor

Sent from mobile phone







--
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve 
immortality through not dying.
-- Woody Allen


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread John Francis 
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 07:55:01AM -0500, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
> A horror story:
> http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/
> 
> I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we just
> recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on airplanes.

I have two rules:

1) Pelican case, plus (TSA - approved) padlocks.

2) My own insurance.


The so-called "pro" photographer in the story above got half of the first one 
right;
at least he had a Pelican case.  But that's it.  If this had been my case it 
wouldn't
have popped open. And even if it had I wouldn't be fighting the airline over a 
claim;
my insurance company would have paid me (full replacement cost, less $500 
deductible),
and they'd be fighting the airline to get it to reimburse them.  If they won, 
then it
deductible would be repaid. This could well take six months or more (as it just 
did
with a claim when somebody backed out of a parking bay in a supermarket lot 
right into
my car, then tried to claim this was somehow my fault), but I wasn't waiting 
for ages
to get the repairs/replacement done.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

OT - American Airlines Drops Photographer's $20,000 Camera Kit

2016-06-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR 


A horror story:
http://petapixel.com/2016/06/23/american-airlines-drops-photogs-gear-causes-thousands-damage/

I though this story would be of interest to some people here, as we just 
recently discussed the question of transporting photo gear on airplanes.



Igor

Sent from mobile phone




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.