Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: > OMG. That should read, "more *notorious*". Spell-checker didn't agree, Spellcheck knows what is best for you> Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-23 Thread Toralf Lund
On 23/06/17 20:20, Toralf Lund wrote: On 23/06/17 20:01, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 03:00:18PM +0200, Toralf Lund wrote: On 22/06/17 22:40, P. J. Alling wrote: It looks like a developer on the Thunderbird team needs to have his left arm ripped off, so that I can beat him

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-23 Thread Toralf Lund
On 23/06/17 20:01, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 03:00:18PM +0200, Toralf Lund wrote: On 22/06/17 22:40, P. J. Alling wrote: It looks like a developer on the Thunderbird team needs to have his left arm ripped off, so that I can beat him about the head and shoulders with it.

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-23 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 03:00:18PM +0200, Toralf Lund wrote: > On 22/06/17 22:40, P. J. Alling wrote: > > It looks like a developer on the Thunderbird team needs to have his left > arm ripped off, so that I can beat him about the head and shoulders with > it. Note that the part of the message

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-23 Thread Zos Xavius
I heard some good news today. I'm not in a position to offer details but we should in the next few months have a clear indication that Ricoh is not giving up the ship anytime soon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-23 Thread Toralf Lund
would help if more people complained. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1309486 - Toralf Forwarded Message Subject: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:51:08 -0400 From: P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> <webster

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-22 Thread P. J. Alling
addressed. I still think the "Reply" implementation is wrong in principle, though... - Toralf Igor P. J. Alling Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:02:46 -0700 wrote: Dammit, there was a recent update to Firefox, and the didn't fix the reply button. A!. Forward

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-22 Thread P. J. Alling
A!. It seems like one of the Mozilla developers has decided to be one way about this. Perhaps it would help if more people complained. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1309486 - Toralf Forwarded Message Subject: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Dat

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-22 Thread Toralf Lund
in principle, though... - Toralf Igor P. J. Alling Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:02:46 -0700 wrote: Dammit, there was a recent update to Firefox, and the didn't fix the reply button. A!. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:10 PM, John wrote: > They were once both components of Netscape Navigator, but > that was a few years back. that was a few decades back. There FTFY. (Time flies when you are having fun!) :) -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-22 Thread Toralf Lund
://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1309486 - Toralf Forwarded Message Subject: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:51:08 -0400 From: P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> To: Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gma

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread John
-- Forwarded Message ---- Subject: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:51:08 -0400 From: P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> To: Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> The universe is dmed. Ultimate heat death in only 20 billion years

Re: Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread P. J. Alling
umber) of complaints. Igor P. J. Alling Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:02:46 -0700 wrote: Dammit, there was a recent update to Firefox, and the didn't fix the reply button. A!. Forwarded Message ---- Subject: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:51:0

Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR
s a recent update to Firefox, and the didn't fix the reply button. A!. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:51:08 -0400 From: P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> To: Zos Xavius <

Fwd: Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Dammit, there was a recent update to Firefox, and the didn't fix the reply button. A!. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:51:08 -0400 From: P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> To: Zos

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > Dave, > > It is the reality of the 21 century: most things are ordered via internet > and brought to your home by UPS/FedEx/USPS. I'm still in the 60's so this IS good news.:-) I agree that i can order on line, but

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread Darren Addy
I've reconsidered my suggestion that Sony would be the best owner of the Pentax brand. I doubt that they would preserve the name/brand, but merely absorb it. In fact, brands are absorbed and disappear all of the time. It happened to venerable brands like Contax, Konica, Minolta and even YUUGE

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Dave, It is the reality of the 21 century: most things are ordered via internet and brought to your home by UPS/FedEx/USPS. In the first year or two after our kid was born, we had UPS people coming to our door at least 4 times a week, - thanks to free 2-day delivery with Amazon Prime (and

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread Zos Xavius
I was mocking Rice High. Domed ;) On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > You seem to say that gleefully. It's a valuable brand. Someone will probably > buy it cheap if Ricoh fails. > > Paul via phone > >> On Jun 20, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Zos Xavius

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-21 Thread David J Brooks
I hope so but they are not making it very easy in my neck of the woods to get product. Most if not all have to be ordered in and most lenses are final sales only Dave On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > You seem to say that gleefully. It's a valuable

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
You seem to say that gleefully. It's a valuable brand. Someone will probably buy it cheap if Ricoh fails. Paul via phone > On Jun 20, 2017, at 10:46 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > > Pentax is domed! > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net >

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-20 Thread Zos Xavius
Pentax is domed! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-20 Thread Alex Sarbu
"When in panic or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout" ;-) Please ignore the alarmist Nikkei article - FTR Ricoh had to officially deny 2 such "news", the one about closing down the camera business (denied) and one about selling the leasing and semiconductor businesses (not sure it means

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-20 Thread Igor PDML-StR
On the page that Gonz posted: https://www.dpreview.com/news/3586946955/ricoh-announced-cost-cuts-in-order-to-survive look for the comment by Mistral75, where that user posts operating profits. Other (includes, but is not limited to, Ricoh Imaging): ¥1.4bn (FY2016) --> ¥(6.1)bn (FY2017,

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-20 Thread John
My read on the situation is Pentax appears to be one of the few bright spots on Ricoh's balance sheet. Probably won't save Pentax if the parent company founders, but Pentax isn't the cause of their troubles. On 6/19/2017 17:51, Darren Addy wrote:

Re: More news of trouble at Ricoh

2017-06-19 Thread Gonz
Yup, here's another... https://www.dpreview.com/news/3586946955/ricoh-announced-cost-cuts-in-order-to-survive On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/For-Ricoh-it-s-a-sink-or-swim-moment > > This gives more credence