the bit in italics was actually an excerpt from an old post of louis' (not my
comments), which struck me as quite different to the blanket claim he was making
now that shiva was 'inimical' to marxism. if he can see his way to dialogue,
discussion and debate with the politics that shiva presents,
Louis Proyect wrote:
From what I can gather, Butler's work falls into a
category that I find sterile, namely "theory". I react to discussions of
"theory" the way my dad used to movies with subtitles.
much of marx's work is 'theory', no? a debate over texts, in this instacne the
texts of
G'day Penners,
Wow, you really got yourselves a veritable Cicero of a president there! The
guy can talk the knickers off an alectorate at a hundred yards. Some
strategic work in there to use the surplus (which may not be quite as
permanent a feature as his noble plans might imply) to lock in
Sounds to me like Noise Trader Risk in Financial Markets, by a certain J. Bradford
DeLong.
Josh
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that sounds like Robert Barsky's style ???
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that sounds like Robert Barsky's style ???
Who's Robert Barsky? The only one I know is an English Prof that
wrote a bio of Chomsky.
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very carefully. Nothing about domestic debt, current account deficits,
fiscal inflexibility . . .
The apparent budget surpluses certainly reflect
some fiscal flexibility. It's only the political
rules and shibboleths that instill inflexibility.
. . .
Rather ambiguous on the degree
Ken,
"Libertarian" is now linked to the right-wing in much the same way
"radical" is used to describe right-wingers at the Cato Institute.
Seth Sandronsky
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Tom:
I do not disagree. That is why I refer to "some quarters" of American
labor.
Henry
Tom Lehman wrote:
Dear Pen-L,
Henry, most of the better and smarter American unions have positions
on
fair trade similar to ours.
The smarter people in
Jerry,
But, gee, Louis has confessed to all of us his bad
behavior. We now know that he was drunk at the LM
conference, by his own admission, and that he skipped
crucial sessions because he was in his room reading, by his
own admission. So, we can all see what his behavior was
and
Lest one become intoxicated with mirth imbibing from Earl Grey's archaic
turn-of-the-century fountain of illogic, I append to this excerpt from The
Times, a series of refrains of the same old, same old tune from the
Economist magazine as we approach the twilight of the same century. The
Times
Comment:
Not as an "excuse" but if that empty pretentious rhetoric and totured
syntax given in the example from Butler that won the
Doublespeak/Gobbledegook Prize is an example of her normal prose and
speech, I would need at least six Captain Morgan spiced Rums
to go to hear her and six more
At 01:04 AM 1/20/99 -0600, Ken wrote:
It is a long time I have read about Lysenko but what is said in the review
sounds partly right. He was not a fraud but a good practical biologist.
Nevertheless the rejection of Mendel's work was surely wrong and some of the
propoganda e.g. citing against
Hal Draper's massive KARL MARX'S THEORY OF REVOLUTION has a discussion of
the "I am not a Marxist" quote in one of its appendices. (sorry for such a
sketchy reference, but the volumes are at home.)
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
above appears in foreword to vol. 2 (*The Politics of Social
This final paragraph in my last post was garbled. Here is a cleaned up
version:
I will scan in the whole article this evening and post it to PEN-L. It is
very good. Levenson discusses Butler's "Excitable Speech" at length, which
is a postmodernist attack on bans on "hate speech." Although the
I'm wondering what happens if one of the countries that makes up "Euroland"
starts misbehaving (according to the established rules). Suppose that
Holland (for example), is run by a government that borrows a lot to finance
big cheese parties. I understand that there's a penalty (imposed by the
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For those interested, attached is a notice of the Robert S. Kenny Prize in
Marxist and Labour/Left Studies for Canadians and landed immigrants, or
others studying Canadian issues. The deadline is June 29, 1999.
Friends,
In the Fall 1998 issue of the Review of Radical Political Economics,
there are articles by Max Sawicky on populism and by Louis Proyect on
David Harvey and the American Indian. congratulations! Check them out.
michael yates
On 20 Jan 99 at 19:30, Dennis R Redmond wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, James Michael Craven wrote:
I wonder how many working class women or women on Reservations could
relate to or understand the rhetoric in the example of Butler's
writings given in the Doublespeak award? I suspect few
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, James Michael Craven wrote:
I wonder how many working class women or women on Reservations could
relate to or understand the rhetoric in the example of Butler's
writings given in the Doublespeak award? I suspect few if any.
So what? Are all those scientists who use
In a message dated 99-01-20 10:19:31 EST, max says, amongst many other things,
about the transfer of funds from social security to the stock market:
This transfer is pretty comical. It goes like this:
{and Max describes an unnecessarily complicated transfer process}
I think the transfer
The problem with knocking Clinton is that -- as sleazy as the man is -- he
still looks good next to the Republicans. Good and bad are relative terms and
by comparison, slick willy is coming up smelling like a rose. Now, if he can
just keep it in his pants for the duration
What's really the
This is from the J2000 web page:
http://www.oneworld.org/jubilee2000/index.html, which is searchable.
It has some invocations of authority which might be useful.
See esp. the reference to Kunibert Raffer of the University of Vienna.
-bob naiman
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her work would be to nod and praise She is a supreme late-millennial
theorist, trying to shift the weight of a heavy legacy while still
From "The Performances of Judith Butler" by Michael Levenson in the Sept.
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This is accurate as far as it goes, but there are some
weird twists in addition. In particular, the ultimate fan
of Lysenko was Khrushchev and it was during his rule that
Lysenko's power reached its peak, although it did not
coincide then with deadly purges of his opponents as it did
from SLATE magazine:
The LA Times fronts the International Monetary Fund's publication of a
report stating that the agency "badly misgauged" the Asian financial
meltdown. The story is carried inside everywhere else. The report admits
that the IMF was slow to see the extent of the banking overhaul
At 05:48 PM 1/19/99 -0800, Tom wrote:
Michael Perelman mentioned that Marx's statement that he was not a "Marxist"
was by way of disassociating himself with a pamphlet about laziness written
by his son-in-law. That presumably would be "The Right to be Lazy" by Paul
Lafargue. Reportedly, Lafargue
. . .
very carefully. Nothing about domestic debt, current account deficits,
fiscal inflexibility . . .
The apparent budget surpluses certainly reflect
some fiscal flexibility. It's only the political
rules and shibboleths that instill inflexibility.
. . .
Rather ambiguous on the degree
Below is an excerpt from the first installment of Pratt's 1901 series in the
London Times. It sets the keynote for the entire discussion. In a way, it is
"old hat" rehearsing employer complaints that no doubt go back before the
building of the pyramids. But the finesse with which Pratt deploys
The old left, feeling threatened by the new left, joins the old right to
form a new center. The new right, disillusioned by the progressive new
center, joins the new left in a transitional battle against the new center,
while reserving its best strength for the pending struggle against the new
Sorry, I thought it was the Barsky/DeLong article. I was wrong.
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Dear Pen-L,
Henry, most of the better and smarter American unions have positions on
fair trade similar to ours.
The smarter people in China must also realize the need for free and
independent labor
My remarks on the Harvard Trade Union Program is conditioned by incessant
criticism from some quarters in American labor on China's policy on unionism.
The following has been posted by me on another list in response to that
criticism.
It may be pertinent to this discussion.
In politics, context
I do not need to apologize for my posts on the Harvard Trade Union Program since
my remarks are not attacks, but merely observations of the institutional
contradictions of the arrangement.
No remarks were made by me on the people involved in the program.
It would be more progress, however, if the
I apologize for any criticism of Elaine Barnard and the Harvard Trade Union
Program that some may have inferred from my earlier post (meant
humorously!). Elaine Barnard is a terrific person, a wonderful speaker and
superb organizer.
My comment about
Reply to Michael P:
a) I did not re-raise this issue. Proyect did when he revealed his drunken
behavior, etc. at the "Rethinking Marxism" conference. Blame him.
b) There was nothing in my post that could fit any reasonable definition
of a flame.
c) The *reason* this issue won't go away is
It sounds quite interesting I'll have to see if I can get the book. No doubt given
my local universities' library I'll be calling on interlibrary loan.
It is a long time I have read about Lysenko but what is said in the review
sounds partly right. He was not a fraud but a good practical
louis is 'extremely familiar' with shiva, so he will know that shiva is not a
postmodernist, nor a poststructuralist, but third-worldist eco-feminist.
Louis Proyect wrote:
I am extremely familiar with Vandana Shiva's ideas and regard
them as inimical to everything that Marx stood for.
and,
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