Re: Re: Bankruptcies Residential debt in Oz

2002-01-09 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Doug, You wrote: hmm, so what's with this? ASIA-PACIFIC: New data show strong growth in Australia Financial Times; Jan 8, 2002 By REUTERS: AGENCY MATERIAL and STEPHEN WYATT Well, good retail stats accompany bad residential debt and bankruptcy stats pretty snugly, and good

Re: FW: Re: Re: sinking Argentina

2002-01-09 Thread Romain Kroes
Very interesting and relevant subject of controversy, Jim. But is the forced circulation of fiat money a reality? If it were, general level of prices would be immutable. Unless you believe in the quantity theory. Do you? If yes, it is another controversy. On the other hand, if people don't trust

China to take a decade to remove yuan controls

2002-01-09 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Times of India THURSDAY, JANUARY 03, 2002 It'll take a decade to remove yuan controls: China BEIJING: Chinese state media said Thursday it would take another decade before the country opened up its capital accounts and entirely removed controls on its currency. The recently emerging

Re: Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Ellen Frank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CB: Do supply-siders express an aim to lessen recessions' unemployment etc by their tax cuts for capital, or do they say recession is a necessary, good thing ? Real supply-siders believe either (1) that unemployment is mostly voluntary and the unemployed should get

The Supremes side with business again

2002-01-09 Thread William S. Lear
I glanced at the papers in the grocery store this morning and all newspapers I saw featured the latest unanimous pro-business decision by the Supreme Court. The ruling in *Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. v. Williams*, apparently holds that work is not a major life activity ... of

Re: The Supremes side with business again

2002-01-09 Thread William S. Lear
On Wednesday, January 9, 2002 at 09:49:13 (-0600) William S. Lear writes: ... BTW, the decision can be found at: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=USnavby=casevol=000invol=00-1089 Incidentally, the reason work is not central to one's life is given near the end of the

state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Devine, James
[was: RE: [PEN-L:21246] Re: FW: Re: Re: sinking Argentina ] Romain Kroes writes: Very interesting and relevant subject of controversy, Jim. thanks. But is the forced circulation of fiat money a reality? By forced circulation, I mean (and I believe Marx meant) the use of state power to

Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Charles Brown
Budget follies by Max Sawicky 08 January 2002 21:44 They say the recession is somebody else's fault and will be over soon. mbs CB: Thanks, Max. I forget. What is the rationale for their tax cut ? That the rich will invest it, starting a new round of investment , and ending the

Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Charles Brown
Budget follies by Ellen Frank 09 January 2002 15:40 UTC Thanks, Ellen, Would I be right in thinking that part of the supply-sider rationale would be that the rich will invest the taxcuts; that is the bone supply-siders throw to the unemployed, the indirect help in making more jobs for

2002 OUTLOOK: Economists say vehicle sales could fall 10%

2002-01-09 Thread Charles Brown
2002 OUTLOOK: Economists say vehicle sales could fall 10% January 9, 2002 BY ALEJANDRO BODIPO-MEMBA DETROIT FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER Citing the effects of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks along with a weakening economy, economists from the three traditional Detroit automakers estimate car

Ford to cut 17,000 jobs, close 3 assembly plants

2002-01-09 Thread Charles Brown
Ford to cut 17,000 jobs, close 3 assembly plants DEARBORN -- Ford Motor Co.'s Board of Directors today is expected to consider a sweeping restructuring plan that will include closing three North American assembly plants by 2003, eliminating 17,000 full-time jobs, sharply reducing contract

RE: Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Max Sawicky
when they feel compelled to address recession, they use that claim. otherwise they try to change the subject to the long-term need for investment, or they try to inveigle people with the promise of giving you your money back. On the positive side, they do not invoke the Democratic canard that

Re: Re: Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Doug Henwood
Ellen Frank wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CB: Do supply-siders express an aim to lessen recessions' unemployment etc by their tax cuts for capital, or do they say recession is a necessary, good thing ? Real supply-siders believe either (1) that unemployment is mostly voluntary and the

: Re: Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Ellen Frank
Doug writes: And there's (3) Excessively tight monetary policy, courtesy of central bankers who believe in the discredited notion of the Phillips Curve, when they really should set policy by the gold price and other market-based measures. If you're by a TV the morning of the next employment

Re: Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Ellen Frank
Absolutely right. That's the whole idea. In thier world-view, which I think is widely held in America, businessmen (and women!)are the heroes. Adversity -- like unemployment -- spurs the heroic to action -- to take risks, start businesses. In this way the heroes provide incomes and

RE: : Re: Budget follies

2002-01-09 Thread Devine, James
Ellen writes: I will say that these guys [supply-siders] are way less mean-spirited than creeps like Armey. right. If anyone remembers Jack Kemp, he advocated supply-side economics as beneficial not only to the majority of Amurricans but also to minorities. He was quite the optimist in terms of

RE: state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I just was handed a patacon from someone who just returned from Argentina. The first thing that hits you is that it looks so much like their peso. The patacon was issued and used to pay government worker salaries. They key state power here was the declaration that patacones would be accepted

Dissidents' Trial Begins in Iran

2002-01-09 Thread Mohammad Maljoo
TEHRAN, Iran - The trial of 15 Iranian dissidents charged with plotting to overthrow the Islamic establishment began behind closed doors Tuesday at the hard-line Revolutionary Court in Tehran. Outside the courthouse, some 20 family members of the defendants staged a sit-in demonstration in

RE: RE: state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Devine, James
Mat writes: This is straight chartalist monetary theory. can you tell me (pen-l) about who developed this tradition? somehow I never picked it up and seem to have developed a version of it independently. -- Jim

Fw: confidential

2002-01-09 Thread Karl Carlile
Karl Carlile (Communist Global Group) Be free to join our communism mailing list at http://homepage.eircom.net/~kampf/ I received the following posting. I have forwarded it to various addresses: - Original Message - From: charles mosanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

investment in rail

2002-01-09 Thread Devine, James
COMMENT. this article captures a major component of neo-liberalism: the lack of real investment. As far as I can tell, British Railtrack was a privatized company which was treated simply as a speculative financial investment by the City (Britain's Wall Street). Instead of building up the

RE: RE: RE: state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Well, it can be found in Adam Smith (a few passages), and there are some other proto-chartalist meanderings, but the key text is Knapp's State Theory of Money. Keynes in the Treatise on Money explicitly accepts Knapp's main theses. Abba Lerner also embraced it in a short piece in the AER,

BLS Daily Report

2002-01-09 Thread Richardson_D
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 9, 2002: Unemployment grew in nearly 85 percent of the nation's metro areas in November from a year earlier, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Danville, Va., where the manufacturing slowdown has hit the textile

Re: Fw: confidential

2002-01-09 Thread ravi
Karl Carlile wrote: I received the following posting. I have forwarded it to various addresses: - Original Message - From: charles mosanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: confidential attn: Karl Carlile I am

Re: Fw: confidential

2002-01-09 Thread DOUG ORR
Yes, this is a new version of a scam that has been running around the net for at least 4 yrs. Doug Orr Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 16:22:05 -0500 From: ravi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:21269] Re: Fw: confidential Karl Carlile wrote:

Re: Re: Fw: confidential

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Perelman
Someone in Salon, I believe, did a wonderful literary analysis of these scams. He even spoke with some of the scammers. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Argentina and the IMF

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.imf.org/external/country/arg/index.htm

Third way is dead

2002-01-09 Thread Chris Burford
Rather rambling article from a political commentator, Polly Toynbee, who usually has her ear very much to the ground of New Labour and is probably correct about this too: http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,629668,00.html The central content of the article is that New Labour's

Re: Third way is dead

2002-01-09 Thread Doug Henwood
Chris Burford wrote: Rather rambling article from a political commentator, Polly Toynbee, who usually has her ear very much to the ground of New Labour and is probably correct about this too: http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,629668,00.html The central content of the article is

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2002-01-09 Thread Michael Perelman
system pen-l perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] #subscribe pen-l Fred Lee -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Query on Mutual insurance companies

2002-01-09 Thread Carrol Cox
How do the controllers of a mutual insurance company make their money. The Rusts (who control State Farm) are very wealthy indeed -- but of course State Farm Automobile is a mutual company, nominally owned by the policy holders. All the other State Farm companies are stock companies, with the

state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Steve Diamond
David Friedman, the anarcho-capitalist son of Milton, has a piece arguing for private money. The problem I see with the state power/fiat money argument is that there are lots of instruments out there that should qualify as money that are not creatures of state creation. A recent article in one

Re: state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Perelman
Hayek also argued for privately issued money. Of course, bank in the US issued money in the early nineteenth century, causing enormous confusion -- sort of like an Enron-inspired banking federal reserve. Steve Diamond wrote: David Friedman, the anarcho-capitalist son of Milton, has a piece

Re:Query on Mutual insurance companies

2002-01-09 Thread Tom Walker
Carrol Cox asked: How do the controllers of a mutual insurance company make their money. I would imagine they worked extemely long hours and saved every penny they earned. Isn't that how everybody does it? Tom Walker

RE: state power theory of money

2002-01-09 Thread Devine, James
Steve Diamond says:David Friedman, the anarcho-capitalist son of Milton, has a piece arguing for private money. The problem I see with the state power/fiat money argument is that there are lots of instruments out there that should qualify as money that are not creatures of state creation. A

fuel cells

2002-01-09 Thread Ian Murray
Bush resorts to hot air while America burns President ignores current problem of gas-guzzling cars by switching budget to hydrogen power future Paul Brown, environment correspondent Thursday January 10, 2002 The Guardian President George Bush has abandoned plans to develop fuel-efficient

myth of the self-made man

2002-01-09 Thread Tom Walker
Deliberate or unconscious humour? http://www.ezwrite.com/Store/itemdetail.asp?IDNO=116 Tom Walker

Re: Third way is dead

2002-01-09 Thread Chris Burford
At 09/01/02 20:20 -0500, you wrote: Chris Burford wrote: Rather rambling article from a political commentator, Polly Toynbee, who usually has her ear very much to the ground of New Labour and is probably correct about this too: http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,629668,00.html

increasing unity in international economic law?

2002-01-09 Thread Ian Murray
[Relevant to the HN Empire dustup] http://www.asil.org/ajil/pauwelyn.pdf