Steve Fink wrote:
I replied to ticket #16941 a while back but I don't think I had RT
actually send any mail to anybody. Anyone have an opinion on the patch
I put in it? (I'm trying to clean out some local changes so I can
apply other people's patches more easily.)
Thanks.
I don't like it very
Jonathan Scott Duff writes:
Maybe I'm just wired wrong, but Inf is the same size as Inf (since
they are the same value) To me Inf is a textual representation of
a value that's larger than all other values. So ...
Inf == Inf # true
false , but all( (0..Inf) ^[==]
Richard Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a previous life, I worked as part of a team (implementing Expert
Systems in VAX Pascal actually), and we had one person whose sole aim
in life was to design and build test cases. In many cases his complete
lack of knowledge of implementation detail
David Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:32 PM, Joseph F. Ryan wrote:
-Things that are currently unimplemented in P6C are in the TODO
folder, per
David Wheeler's suggestion.
That's not actually what I meant. You use TODO blocks in your test
scripts,
Dave Whipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Advantages of inline tests:
- close to the documentation
- one place to update
- harder for people to update docs without finding code
Plus, it gives us a mechanism to validate example-code
within documents
Richard Nuttall wrote:
How about
my $a = 256:192.169.34.76;
my $b = $a.base(10);
my $c = '34:13.23.0.1.23.45'.base(16);
This coupling makes me nervous. A number is a number: its value is not
effected by its representation.
I can see that, in some scripts, it might be useful to define a
Dave Whipp writes:
Richard Nuttall wrote:
How about
my $a = 256:192.169.34.76;
my $b = $a.base(10);
my $c = '34:13.23.0.1.23.45'.base(16);
This coupling makes me nervous. A number is a number: its value is not
effected by its representation.
I can see that, in
Michael Lazzaro wrote:
Does someone from internals want to take on the task of finalizing this
list? We need to decide if we want to support none, some, or all of
these types/aliases.
-
The Full List of Numeric Types
In addition to the standard int and num, there are a great number of
Dave Whipp writes:
You can rename the types if you want; but properties are a better
representation of constraints than type names: more precise, and more
flexible.
but types *are* properties .
arcadi
Piers Cawley wrote:
I'm not arguing that the unit tests themselves shouldn't carry
documentation, but that documentation (if there is any) should be
aimed at the perl6 developer.
Depends what you mean by perl6 developer: is that the internals
people, or the lucky user?
Unit tests should be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Whipp writes:
You can rename the types if you want; but properties are a better
representation of constraints than type names: more precise, and more
flexible.
but types *are* properties .
arcadi
True :-(
But I think my examples somehow withstand
Dave Whipp writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Whipp writes:
You can rename the types if you want; but properties are a better
representation of constraints than type names: more precise, and more
flexible.
but types *are* properties .
arcadi
Damian Conway writes:
Micholas Clarke asked:
If a subroutine explicitly needs access to its invocant's topic, what is so
wrong with having an explicit read-write parameter in the argument list that
the caller of the subroutine is expected to put $_ in?
Absolutely nothing. And
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Luke Palmer asked:
When junctions collapse,
Sigh, not another one of those dreadful reality TV shows:
When animals attack
When drivers collide
When junctions collapse
Next we'll get:
When mailing lists explode
I wonder what would happen if you had a junction of
continuations. Producing something practical is left as an exercise
for the interested reader.
--
Piers
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a language in
possession of a rich syntax must be in need of a rewrite.
-- Jane
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 07:05:26AM +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
--
given ($this) {
when $that_happens { Have a party }
when $that_doesnt_happen { Sing }
all {
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Ken Fox wrote:
Andy Wardley wrote:
Can we overload + in Perl 6 to work as both numeric addition
and string concatenation ...
Isn't there some nifty Unicode operator perl6 could enlist? ;)
How about concatenating adjacent operands? ANSI C does this
with string
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Luke Palmer wrote:
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Here's the
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Luke Palmer wrote:
The blocks below the given get evaluated under the following
conditions
all: $falsecount == 0
any: $truecount 0
some: $falsecount 0
none: $truecount == 0
So anyway, none replaces the old default option, and the others
can be
Luke Palmer writes:
for parallel(, 0..Inf) - $line, $count {
FIRST { $line //= #!/usr/bin/perl }
# processing...
NEXT { print STDERR Next line...\n }
LAST { print STDERR Done\n }
}
Also, keep in mind that that Cparallel function can be any (possibly
Larry Wall writes:
It would be really funny to use cent ¢, pound £, or yen ¥ as a
sigil, though...
C'mon, everybody's doing it! First one's free, kid... ;-)
People who believe slippery slope arguments should never go skiing.
just (re)reading *old* threads :
is it
If memory serves me right, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Yep, you are right - I did miss this point sometimes. We have to do a
_save_registers before calling code, that might throw an exception.
Excuse me for butting in ... But how are the parameters to a C code being
passed .. I assume that would
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 10:26:23PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 12:28:57PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 12:15 PM +0100 10/2/02, Tim Bunce wrote:
On a related note, are there any good tools for static code analysis
around? The usual cross-reference stuff would be handy,
- first chunk of last JIT patch was not really testing for signed range
(reverted)
- mapped registers are now ebx,edi,esi,edx. The first 3 are callee
saved. Prior ecx was used, which was only by chance not failing in
tests, which used shift operations, because, when shifting a register
mapped
Gopal V wrote:
If memory serves me right, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Yep, you are right - I did miss this point sometimes. We have to do a
_save_registers before calling code, that might throw an exception.
Excuse me for butting in ... But how are the parameters to a C code being
passed .. I
--- Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder what would happen if you had a junction of
continuations. Producing something practical is left as an exercise
for the interested reader.
Isn't this effectively paste(1) ?
That is,
my $outfh = all(@input_handles);
while ($outfh) print;
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
e.g.
I can force all variables starting with 'A' to be constant .
now 'A' is special sigil .
( can I ??? )
( probably this is something perl should avoid somehow )
And by extension, you can force all variables starting with 'hwpstr' to
be a certain
Hey Damian...
What is the expected output of this:
my $x = 0|1; my $xsum = 0; my $xmean;
my $y = 0|1;
my $z = $x * $y; my $zsum = 0; my $zmean;
$xsum += $x.pick for 1..1000;
$xmean = $xsum / 1000;
print Expected value of \$x is $xmean\n;
$zsum = $z.pick for 1..1000;
$zmean =
Stéphane Payrard wrote:
On (14/11/02 16:21), Garrett Goebel wrote:
Stéphane Payrard wrote:
But when we say literal array, do we talk about the representation
or the value?
The representation of a fixed value.
If a literal is the representation of a constant value,
then a
Dave Whipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Piers Cawley wrote:
I'm not arguing that the unit tests themselves shouldn't carry
documentation, but that documentation (if there is any) should be
aimed at the perl6 developer.
Depends what you mean by perl6 developer: is that the internals
people,
If memory serves me right, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
pusha/popa is overkill. The called functions always save bp and bx,di,si
when used. ax is the return value, remaining is dx (cx is used by
shifts) - i386 of course.
Ok ... push_necessary() ;-) ...
Speaking about debugging calls from
If memory serves me right, Tim Bunce wrote:
CCured is a source-to-source translator for C, which
analyzes the program to determine the smallest number of
run-time checks that must be inserted in the program to
prevent all memory safety violations.
Yow ! .. the output
Steve,
Thanks! Was there a problem applying the patch? I just checked out a new cvs
images and the file t/op/lexicals.t has not been updated. As a result, a few
tests are failing. Should I resubmit the part of the patch that updates
t/op/lexicals.t?
--
Jonathan Sillito
-Original
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:23:51 +, Dave Whipp wrote:
I agree that CVS makes it difficult to change things later (I assume you
don't want to risk Subversion in its current state). However, I would
suggest that you hold off creating the elaborate structure until we need
it. Bucket loads of
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 01:10 AM, Dave Whipp wrote:
I still don't understand why we want to go to all this hassle of
completing a vast list primitives to support mappings onto languages
and architectures that have yet to be invented. I still prefer to keep
things simple:
my Number
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 01:27 PM, Dave Whipp wrote:
And now I know why we can't use C. as a floating point in base 16:
1.5e1 == 15
16:1.5e1 != (1 + 5/16) * 16
Due to ambiguities, the proposal to allow floating point in bases other
than 10 is therefore squished. If anyone still
Michael Lazzaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
[...]
So if you *knew* you were dealing with
16-bit unsigned integers, you could say
my uint16 @numarray;
and it would generate the optimal code for such an array. You could
instead say:
my Int @numarray is ctype(unsigned short int);
but
Michael Lazzaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
1.5e1 == 15
16:1.5e1 != (1 + 5/16) * 16
Due to ambiguities, the proposal to allow floating point in bases other
than 10 is therefore squished. If anyone still wants it, we can ask
the design team to provide a final ruling.
So what about
10:1.5
is
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 10:51 AM, Dave Whipp wrote:
Michael Lazzaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
1.5e1 == 15
16:1.5e1 != (1 + 5/16) * 16
Due to ambiguities, the proposal to allow floating point in bases
other
than 10 is therefore squished. If anyone still wants it, we can ask
the
From: chromatic [mailto:chromatic;wgz.org]
Brent Dax had a nice suggestion for Perl 6 test organization.
I like it tremendously.
isn't it missing: t/var/list/...?
Per Apocalpyse 2, RFC 175:
[1,2,3]
is syntactic sugar for something like:
scalar(list(1,2,3));
Depending on
A couple more corner cases:
$a = 1:0; #error? or zero
$b = 4294967296:1.2.3.4 # base 2**32
printf %32x, $b;
0001000200030004
Dave.
--- Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Austin Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder what would happen if you had a junction of
continuations. Producing something practical is left as an
exercise
for the interested reader.
Isn't
Let's summarize some of the string-to-num issues:
(1) -- A number is just a number, regardless of how it's put in.
Therefore:
my int $i = 0xff;
my int $i = 255;
result in the identical number, 255, being placed in $i. Once it's in
there, there's no way to tell what format it
Michael Lazzaro writes:
Let's summarize some of the string-to-num issues:
my int $i = literal 0xff; # 255
(3) -- We want to be able to parse a string as a number using a very
_specific_ rule; for example, if a user is expected to enter a value in
a specific format, like
Here's the very rough draft of the String = Num document I said I'd
do.
Some of the behavior in here was just what made sense to me, since I
had no definitive answer. If anyone has ideas for more useful
or sensible behavior, please say so.
Oh, and I'm not sure what POD-like conventions we're
If memory serves me right, Paolo Molaro wrote:
You can find the complete examples of how the jit debugging features
work in the mono tarball (mono/doc directory):
Same old lupus I never realized I had a wolf pack hunting me :-)
the above was a partial cutpaste with s/mono/parrot/ :-)
Paolo Molaro wrote:
On 11/15/02 Gopal V wrote:
It is possible ... JIT generated code looks just like loaded code to
gcc ... Typically gdb should only need access to a symfile to correctly
allow debugging ... So an .o file of the JIT'd code should be correctly
generated with all the
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The attached patch makes subs closures and does a couple simple cleanups. It
From: Leopold Toetsch [mailto:lt;toetsch.at]
Garrett Goebel wrote:
From: chromatic [mailto:chromatic;wgz.org]
Brent Dax had a nice suggestion for Perl 6 test organization.
I like it tremendously.
isn't it missing: t/var/list/...?
*All* (parrot as well as perl6) tests are currently
Garrett Goebel wrote:
From: chromatic [mailto:chromatic;wgz.org]
Brent Dax had a nice suggestion for Perl 6 test organization.
I like it tremendously.
isn't it missing: t/var/list/...?
*All* (parrot as well as perl6) tests are currently a grown unorganized
mess - though working.
If this
My complete knowledge comes from
archive.develooper.com/perl6-language...
(search for superpositions).
I find google (rather than develooper's
archive/search) the best tool for most
searching of p6lang. Unfortunately even
google only goes back so far, and doesn't
search punctuation.
Perl 6's
On Nov-15, Jonathan Sillito wrote:
Steve,
Thanks! Was there a problem applying the patch? I just checked out a new cvs
images and the file t/op/lexicals.t has not been updated. As a result, a few
tests are failing. Should I resubmit the part of the patch that updates
t/op/lexicals.t?
Damn.
On Nov-15, Jonathan Sillito wrote:
Steve,
Thanks! Was there a problem applying the patch? I just checked out a new cvs
images and the file t/op/lexicals.t has not been updated. As a result, a few
tests are failing. Should I resubmit the part of the patch that updates
t/op/lexicals.t?
No, I
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 07:58:55PM +0100, Angel Faus wrote:
The C1i and C-1i numbers can be also written
respectively, Ci and C-i, so the previous example
could be rewritten:
my $z = 2.3 + i;
OK. So, what does this print?
sub i {return 40}
my $z = 2.3 + i;
print z:$z\n;
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 07:58:55PM
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Me wrote:
My complete knowledge comes from
archive.develooper.com/perl6-language...
(search for superpositions).
I find google (rather than develooper's
archive/search) the best tool for most
searching of p6lang. Unfortunately even
google only goes back so far,
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 09:10:07PM +, Richard Proctor wrote:
: On Thu 14 Nov, Michael G Schwern wrote:
: On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:19:47PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
: Can we overload + in Perl 6 to work as both numeric addition
: and string concatenation, depending on the type of the
Piers Cawley said:
Richard Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a previous life, I worked as part of a team (implementing Expert
Systems in VAX Pascal actually), and we had one person whose sole aim
in life was to design and build test cases. In many cases his complete
lack of knowledge of
Frank Wojcik wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 07:58:55PM +0100, Angel Faus wrote:
The C1i and C-1i numbers can be also written
respectively, Ci and C-i, so the previous example
could be rewritten:
my $z = 2.3 + i;
OK. So, what does this print?
sub i {return 40}
my $z = 2.3 + i;
print
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:24:50AM -0800, Dave Storrs wrote:
: On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:33:09PM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
: : 1_2_3_4__5___6 (absurd, but doable)
:
: Nope, _ is allowed only between digits (counting a-f as digits in hex).
:
: Larry
:
: Does this mean that you
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Steve,
Thanks! Was there a problem applying the patch? I just checked out a new cvs
images and the file t/op/lexicals.t has not been updated. As a result, a few
tests are failing. Should I resubmit the part of the
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