Re: syntax for accessing multiple versions of a module

MyDBI as DBI; Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

. What is the ASCII equivalent? 4. Why not ^, which is available? 5. Why is the sigil needed? Pairs do well without, too. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

Juerd skribis 2005-10-20 17:03 (+0200): 3. What is the ASCII equivalent? Suggestion: 1c 'c' is an invalid character in numbers, and currently only numbers can begin with a digit. 1cFoo The 1 provides an extra visual hint of the cheapness of the class. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Re: new sigil

Juerd skribis 2005-10-20 17:03 (+0200): 4. Why not ^, which is available? Or the euro symbol, which also has a C in it. It doesn't always have to be American ;) It's in iso-8859-15, which is compatible enough with iso-8859-1 to support ¥ and both « and ». (I hope those turn out as Y, and 's

Re: new sigil

^KCt in vim, btw) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

Larry Wall skribis 2005-10-20 8:46 (-0700): On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 05:35:10PM +0200, Juerd wrote: : I'm sure ¢ will have its equivalent too. c| or C| maybe. But sub c { ... } sub d { ... } if $foo eq c|d { ... } Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: new sigil

Schneelocke skribis 2005-10-20 18:00 (+0200): Would c! be an option? In current Perl 6: Yes, because infix ! does not exist. But several people want ! to be a chainy none() constructor, and this would destroy a dream. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: new sigil

ideas don't work in very specific circumstances, feel free. I've already suggested two. Is that not enough? (a) ^ (b) 1c Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

$calar and @rray, and now some people will use ¢lass in examples. Please let that the sigil looks like a certain leter not be a reason. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

different things according to how/where it's used. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

Steve Peters skribis 2005-10-21 6:07 (-0500): Older versions of Eclipse are not able to enter these characters. That's where the copy and paste comes in. That's where upgrades come in. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: new sigil

is released. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

idea. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

$_ defaulting for mutating ops

/foo/bar/; # bar foo foo ++; # bar foo fop x= 2;# bar foo fopbar foo fop ~= !; # bar foo fopbar foo fop! } Especially bare ++ would be useful, I think. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html

Re: Perl 6 fears

Joshua Gatcomb skribis 2005-10-25 8:30 (-0400): IIRC, Andy has taken up the Perl6 PR hat. I think Juerd should like be working with Andy on this one. The rebuttals to these fears needs to be well thought out and convincing because from my personal experience they are prevalent. I'll work

Re: $_ defaulting for mutating ops

legability or maintainability. I also think that the code is immediately obvious, even to people coming from Perl 5, who never read this thread. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Pronouns [Re: $_ defaulting for mutating ops]

95% of cases, my hypothetical var would cover I guess a remaining 4.5% of cases, and who cares for the rest? E.g.: for @vert { put_point $_, $__ for @horiz; } I find $__ confusing, and prefer $OUTER::_, which already exists. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: Pronouns [Re: $_ defaulting for mutating ops]

}_ } ]; } And then you can use $_1 .. $_9. I think $_1 is much clearer than $__, but I think neither is needed in the standard language. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: $_ defaulting for mutating ops

for is a small thing to implement... Things that can wait are usually very non-trivial, and have little impact on the rest of the language. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: new sigil

declarations contain lots of things that look like juxtaposed terms. Is this the same conflict that occurs in %foo % %bar? (I cannot imagine needing a one() junction for types, by the way. If someone can come up with a good real-life example, please do so.) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Re: Avoid the Yen Sign [Was: Re: new sigil]

Jan Dubois skribis 2005-10-25 12:33 (-0700): Just something to keep in mind in case you are tempted to use the Won sign as a sigil or operator in the future. I don't know what stitch() will do, but this will have to be its infix operator :) zip ¥ Y stitch Won w Juerd

Re: +$arg changed to :$arg

-? # The mandatory/optional thing could even be postfix, which results in # clearer code than the stacked +:$: # # sub foo ($this!, $is!, :$mandatory!, $optional?, $really?) I do like the s/+/:/ change, though! Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: +$arg changed to :$arg

heavily associated with invocants anyway. Hmmm... method .doit (...) { ... } method $foo.doit () { ... } Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: +$arg changed to :$arg

just really wouldn't like : to have two very differentmeanings in very similar places. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Is there a way to generate an object without new?

. class A { has $.b handles { 'show' = 'say' }; eval sub $?CLASS is export { $?CLASS.new(\$?ARGS) }; } Not sure about the existence of $?ARGS, or how else to write it. Well, @_, but the signature might be different. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: Is there a way to generate an object without new?

have felt the need to use both :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: $_ defaulting for mutating ops

Sam Vilain skribis 2005-11-03 11:01 (+1300): Does ++; mean postfix:++ or prefix:++ ? I no longer think $_ defaulting for mutating ops is a good idea, but to answer your question, read the original post: all these would imply the LHS, so that makes ++ postfix. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Re: Perl6 perlplexities [was: Re: $1 change issues...]

design, say only 1k% more complex be enough? I love the OO system, and although it adds to complexity, I believe the functionality gained is much greater. However, I do not see why we need to add three ugly operators for features that I suspect almost nobody will use: .?, .* and .+ Juerd -- http

Re: This week's summary

The Perl 6 Summarizer skribis 2005-11-04 14:34 (+): $_ defaulting for mutating ops Probably I have not been clear enough about that I no longer think this is a good idea. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: Perl6 perlplexities [was: Re: $1 change issues...]

understand most of it! Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl6 perlplexities [was: Re: $1 change issues...]

, but I like it. I've updated the PM node :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Classification syntax [Was: Renaming grep]

: %bins.clear; %bins.pairs = ...; Although I think the current situation with simple assignment is still much better: %bins = ...; Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

lvalue reverse and array views

something like that be possible? Wanted? Not too costly? Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: \x{123a 123b 123c}

Ruud H.G. van Tol skribis 2005-11-20 1:19 (+0100): Maybe \x{123a 123b 123c} is a nice alternative of \x{123a} \x{123b} \x{123c}. Hmm, very cute and friendly! Can we keep it, please? Please? Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: lvalue reverse and array views

@bar Y @baz (What is Perl's pair terminology, by the way?) A Pair has a key and a value. To retrieve the key, use the .key method, to retrieve the value, use the .value method, to retrieve a list of both, use the .kv method. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: lvalue reverse and array views

- [ $foo, $bar ] { ... } as much. (Or does for no longer automatically take as much elements from the input array as needed? I like the arity-sensitivity solution better, I think. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: apo5

Larry Wall skribis 2005-11-21 12:08 (-0800): Unfortunately, though, identchar - digit would be ambiguous, and/or wrong. Well, we could of course change - to mean -1 or fewer, as + means +1 or more... :D Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't return an index. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: implied looping (was: Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator)

Larry Wall skribis 2005-11-23 9:19 (-0800): ^5.each { say } Without colon? Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Lazy lists in Str context

, and would also allow GREAT things like my $revfoo := reverse $foo; $revfoo ~~ s/foo/bar/g; I wonder if it's doable, though... Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

. That almost all arrays range from 0..i is no reason to write bad code. Maybe someone doing for ([EMAIL PROTECTED])-$i { say @foo[$i] } That should be ^(@foo.last + 1), or not using ^ at all. I'd prefer the latter. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: Lazy lists in Str context

, but with @, it cannot be copied, because that flattens in list context, which is provided by assignment to another @-thing. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

PROTECTED] If you need the last index, plus one, you shouldn't use the number of elements, and if you need the number of elements, minus one, you shouldn't use the last index. Am I the only one who cares about this distinction? Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

Juerd skribis 2005-11-24 0:39 (+0100): Personally, I think even ^.., ^..^ and ..^ are too much, but that I can live with. For the record, I don't want to die if ^ is introduced. If it's there, I'll use it. If using [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes accepted style, I'll use it. The live with isn't

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

abbreviation, isn't it? (Think for (i = 0; ...; ...)) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

] returning a list of indexes, if that is the definition. I do object to [EMAIL PROTECTED] meaning [EMAIL PROTECTED], which happens to return a list of indexes for most arrays. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl

Re: type sigils redux, and new unary ^ operator

Rob Kinyon skribis 2005-11-24 0:44 (-0500): What about @array.indices instead? Oops, I said indexes in a former message. Maybe a good candidate for an alias? Then, there's no possible fenceposting, your code is self-documenting, and we're not introducing another unary operator? ++ Juerd

Re: scalar/array contexts in perl5 vs. perl6

$x\n; print @y\n The @ sigil does not create list context. In general, every $foo[$bar] from Perl 5 can be written as @foo[$bar] in Perl 6. @foo[$bar++]++ is neither weird nor wrong. Ugly, yes, that it is. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: the $! too global

TSa skribis 2005-12-05 12:32 (+0100): IIRC, the default is to be a read-only ref. Not even local modifications s/ref/alias/, which you can see as an implicit or automatic reference, but which we usually don't call that. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: Clarification for External Regex Variables?

Brad Bowman skribis 2005-12-09 20:14 (+0100): $str ~~ my m/ mv @files:=ident+ $dir:=ident / Nah, that's ugly. It's mostly ugly because you're not used to it, I think. my m[mv @files:=ident+ $dir:=ident] ~~ $str; Looks nicer, though. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Re: Problem with dwimmery

to {} being a hash? Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Deep copy

, that for a referenced hash defaults to the opposite of what it defaults to for a literal anonymous hash. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: real ranges

probably be done with any($range.min, $range.max) == $boundary. I'd assume $foo $range to compare $foo to the number of elements in the range, OR $foo $range to mean $foo $range.min, and $foo $range to mean $foo $range.max, and would be surprised if they meant anything else. Juerd -- http

Re: Deep copy

= 'b'; Depending much on the semantic value of .foo, I'd want only $bar.fooa or both $bar.fooa and $quux.fooa to be set to 'b'. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Deep copy

Nicholas Clark skribis 2005-12-23 17:18 (+): Why not call the shallow copy .copy, and the deep copy .clone? Because using (almost-)synonyms for different things leads to infinite confusion. List/Array is a good example. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: binding arguments

, and the aliasing itself had nothing to do with the substitution. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: binding arguments

Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2006-01-05 18:32 (+0100): Juerd wrote: Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-12-25 17:37 (+0100): I disagree about binding only being a language thing: I fail to see how your example code illustrates your disagreement. return 42 if (my $short

Re: Table of Perl 6 Types

... and ...$foo? MMD, longest-match, ugly hacks, there's a bag full of tricks that could be used, so I gathered there must be a philosophical reason not to have this. I just can't think of any that would weigh more than having ...$foo around. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: split on empty string

Jonathan Lang skribis 2006-01-18 7:26 (-0800): Mark Reed wrote: Perl6 .split(/whatever/) is equivalent to split(/whatever/,) in Perl5. I'm hoping that the perl 5 syntax will still be valid in perl 6. Don't worry, it is. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http

Re: Perl 6 OO and bless

. Classes, like OO syntax, are not necessary for OO. You can write code that behaves like you're in OO-land and that talks with an OO accent (so long as you don't look behind the curtain), but it's not OO. Your definition of OO is far too specific for a 2-letter acronym. Juerd -- http

Re: Perl 6 OO and bless

-use code more easily. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl 6's bless is (seriously) broken

is blessed is not a literal hash, but an instance of ^Hash. The mistake here is that Foo doesn't does Hash, I think. Sure, in Perl 5, you could have different kinds of references as instances of the same class. But I don't recall ever having encountered that. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Re: Perl 6's bless is (seriously) broken

wrong for Perl6. I think it's needed to be able to convert Perl 5 code semi-automatically. But you have probably thought about this more than I, so I'll ask you: what's the alternative? Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: Perl 6's bless is (seriously) broken

Juerd skribis 2006-01-19 22:18 (+0100): Could you live with @foo being an array, and @foo in scalar context returning a reference to that array? And with arrays being interfaces to underlying Arrays, which are objects, which makes arrays non-objects that can be used *as* objects? This turns

Re: Perl 6's bless is (seriously) broken

of the same class. But I don't recall ever having encountered that. bless([] = 'Foo'); bless({} = 'Foo'); bless(\*Foo = 'Foo'); bless(\(my $var) = 'Foo'); Okay, now I did encounter it... Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: Perl 6's bless is (seriously) broken

to reflect this. I was more thinking along the lines of NOT everything is an object, but some things are. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl 6's bless is (seriously) broken

, noting the accesses into the Perl5 reference that you used and calling those attributes. 3) It then creates your BUILD() method, putting all the non-bless components of your new() into it. Doesn't solve the problems as mentioned in this thread, like overlapping methods. Juerd -- http

Re: Perl 6 OO and bless

it that) did not. The two are wildly incompatible, but we do want both. Well, perhaps you do not, but many of us here do. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

[OT] Re: Parrot and PGE will save the day (was Re: as if [Was: Selective reuse of storage in bless.] )

a'). Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]

loud in our perl poetr^H^H^H^H^Hmusic. :-) We need pp and ppp for balance. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]

someone will suggest the ff ligature. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Conversion oneliner t-shirt

in there for me, or anyone except Cafepress. (I did add $ 0.01 because I think .99 values are incredibly silly.) Please donate to TPF separately :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: The definition of 'say'

. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Instance attributes collision

has $.a; has @.a; To result in both $.a and @.a, but only one method .a, which is an accessor for @.a Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Instance attributes collision

Luke Palmer skribis 2006-02-13 9:46 (+): class Baz { does Foo; does Bar; # does this count as double declaration? } I'd put composition and inheritance in a slightly different category than accessor *generators*. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Re: Perl 6 design wiki?

you intended the module to be used, it doesn't cover all the bases. See DBIx::XHTML_Table and Apache::Session, that have nothing to do with DBI and Apache, respectively. More and more, I like cute names that don't really describe the module. We have abstracts for the latter. Juerd -- http

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8573 - doc/trunk/design/syn

it breaks almost everyone's syntax style, not just that of a few. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8573 - doc/trunk/design/syn

predictible. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: =$fh vs *$fh

lines] I wish I had time to read it all. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: S5 - Question about repetition qualifier

: $hex_wep_key ~~ /^ hexdigit**{10|26} $/ Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

A shorter long dot

16:50 audreyt Juerd: write to p6l and explain the .. conflict, The current long dot consists of a dot, then whitespace, and then another dot. The whitespace is mandatory, which makes the construct at least three characters long. Tripling the length of an operator, just to make it alignable

Fw: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: A shorter long dot

) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A shorter long dot Testing with sbc30k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 16:50 audreyt Juerd: write to p6l and explain the .. conflict, The current long dot consists of a dot, then whitespace, and then another dot. The whitespace is mandatory, which makes the construct

Re: A shorter long dot

something that's common in a certain programming language, that programming language was badly designed. Let's not let Perl 6 be such a language. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: A shorter long dot

think healthy discussion can lead to a much better solution than the current long dot. People who think it wastes their time, by now know what this thread is about, and can choose to ignore it. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: A shorter long dot

. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: A shorter long dot

Yuval Kogman skribis 2006-04-30 2:58 (+0300): We need to be careful not to require the language to solve problems that are better solved with tools. On that point I agree, but I think it was a question of aesthetics... Juerd? Yes, it was about both aesthetics and the extra work

Re: A shorter long dot

for my needs. Not sure if people are willing to give up their underscore-only method names, though. Perhaps whitespace can be allowed in numbers too: 5 000 000; 5_000_000; Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl

Re: A shorter long dot

. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: A shorter long dot

Gaal Yahas skribis 2006-04-30 16:05 (+0300): But it doesn't work across lines: $and_a_long_one_I_still_want_to_align. :foo() Explain to me why it wouldn't work, please. I don't get it. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: Linking Synopses to corresponding pod-files?

Markus Laire skribis 2006-05-04 14:55 (+0300): When reading Synopses, I sometimes notice some mistakes or typos, which I'd like to submit a patch for, but it's not easy to do so as I don't know where to get the source. Have you tried s/html/pod/? :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl

Perl 6 Perl 6 Wiki Wiki (RFC: Community education page)

on the outside, this will do Perl 6 much good. I've been meaning to do this myself, but I'm past the point where I give up waiting for sufficient sufficiently round tuits. Of course, feather can host it :) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl

Re: [S05] /ee

Dr.Ruud skribis 2006-05-05 15:25 (+0200): s/pattern/{ eval doit() }/ s/eval/try/ ? No, string eval stays eval. Only block eval is renamed to try. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Scans

scans in Perl 6. To make sure I understand what you mean, not as a proposed implementation: my @input = (...); my @scan = map { [op] @input[0..$_] } [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Is this what you mean? Hm, could that be written as: my @scan = [op] @input[ 0 .. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ] Juerd

Re: Scans

Gaal Yahas skribis 2006-05-08 17:58 (+0300): (Is there special sugar to make @input be the last index when used in a range, or did you mean ..^ ?) I meant @input.last, or probably @input.indices (or .keys?) instead of the entire range, and @input.first instead of the first 0. Juerd -- http

Re: A rule by any other name...

named methods and rules may be a wise idea (I'm not sure they are), the anonymous forms are probably very useful to have around. my $method = method { ... }; $object.$method(...); Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).

is possible, but there will be people who will interpret that meta-info. Besides that, the page is kind of slow... But that could be temporary. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: Perl 6 Wiki -- 2 more possibilities, further discussion.

Please, for proper threading, don't reply to multiple messages at once. Conrad Schneiker skribis 2006-05-25 1:46 (-0700): Juerd wrote: Feather, the semi-public, semi-private, Perl 6 development server, is available to host a Perl 6 wiki. The hostname www.perl6.nl is deliberately kept

Re: Synchronized / Thread syntax in Perl 6

serializing to a serial format, like disk. Locked is the best name I can think of, and it frankly isn't that good -- it's so vauge as to be able to mean almost anything. is exclusive Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http

Re: DOC: glossary

I haven't actually read your message, just the Subject, because I was just going to bed. Be sure to check out http://pugs.kwiki.org/?Perl6Nomenclature Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

Re: underscores in the core lib

: On 8/6/06, Yuval Kogman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please do not answer above the quote. Regards, Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html

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