Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-22 Thread Gurjeet Singh
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Thom Brown t...@linux.com wrote: As has been said previously, an unlinked forum (one which has no interaction with the mailing list) is destined to fail, as others have in the past. It's creates a fragmented community and poor support on such a forum would

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-22 Thread Elliot Chance
On 22/11/2010, at 10:22 PM, Gurjeet Singh wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Thom Brown t...@linux.com wrote: As has been said previously, an unlinked forum (one which has no interaction with the mailing list) is destined to fail, as others have in the past. It's creates a fragmented

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-20 Thread Radosław Smogura
Hi, As has been said previously, an unlinked forum (one which has no interaction with the mailing list) is destined to fail, as others have in the past. It's creates a fragmented community and poor support on such a forum would reflect badly on the PostgreSQL community. Mailing lists

Fwd: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-20 Thread Elliot Chance
Apple Mail has not been copying the mailing list, so excuse the reposts if you got one. Begin forwarded message: From: Elliot Chance elliotcha...@gmail.com Date: 19 November 2010 9:18:18 AM AEDT To: Daniel Verite dan...@manitou-mail.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL

Fwd: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-20 Thread Elliot Chance
Apple Mail has not been copying the mailing list, so excuse the reposts if you got one. Begin forwarded message: From: Elliot Chance elliotcha...@gmail.com Date: 14 November 2010 12:30:19 PM AEDT To: Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us Subject: Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-18 Thread Robert Gravsjö
On 2010-11-17 15.09, Tony Caduto wrote: On 11/15/2010 5:53 PM, Lee Hachadoorian wrote: If anyone's interested, I've started accessing the postgres list through gmane.org (along with several other mailing lists I subscribe to). It's gives you the choice of reading the list as a threaded

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-18 Thread Thom Brown
On 17 November 2010 14:09, Tony Caduto tony_cad...@amsoftwaredesign.com wrote: On 11/15/2010 5:53 PM, Lee Hachadoorian wrote: If anyone's interested, I've started accessing the postgres list through gmane.org (along with several other mailing lists I subscribe to). It's gives you the choice

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-18 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/17/10 6:09 AM, Tony Caduto wrote: The mailing lists etc are fine, but they are kind of old school, people coming from other databases expect a web based forum plain and simple. To attract more users the forums are a GREAT idea. gee, we should have a Facebook wall and a Twitter feed

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-18 Thread Daniel Verite
John R Pierce wrote: gee, we should have a Facebook wall As if there wasn't one already :) http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=2324323985v=wall and a Twitter feed too http://twitter.com/postgresql Best regards, -- Daniel PostgreSQL-powered mail user agent and storage:

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-17 Thread Tony Caduto
On 11/15/2010 5:53 PM, Lee Hachadoorian wrote: If anyone's interested, I've started accessing the postgres list through gmane.org (along with several other mailing lists I subscribe to). It's gives you the choice of reading the list as a threaded archive, a blog, or through an NNTP newsreader or

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 15:09, Tony Caduto tony_cad...@amsoftwaredesign.com wrote: On 11/15/2010 5:53 PM, Lee Hachadoorian wrote: If anyone's interested, I've started accessing the postgres list through gmane.org (along with several other mailing lists I subscribe to). It's gives you the

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-17 Thread Fredric Fredricson
On 11/17/2010 03:09 PM, Tony Caduto wrote: On 11/15/2010 5:53 PM, Lee Hachadoorian wrote: If anyone's interested, I've started accessing the postgres list through gmane.org (along with several other mailing lists I subscribe to). It's gives you the choice of reading the list as a threaded

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-15 Thread Greg Smith
Tom Lane wrote: I'm not nearly as concerned about whether there are forums as about having rogue forums outside the postgresql.org domain. People could misperceive such things as having some official status That the site is now mirroring recent news from postgresql.org doesn't help with

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-15 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:01, Dennis Gearon gear...@sbcglobal.net wrote: One thing that makes me agree with this is the antiquated format of the digest emails. I agree - I thought nobody used that anymore :-) I hate google mail, but I love the google groups application. If postgres had a

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-15 Thread Richard Broersma
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au wrote: It can. The glassfish forums are bidirectionally gatewayed to the mailing list in just such a manner, and it works astonishingly well. Before using those I would've been opposed to the idea, but now ... it doesn't

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 21:06 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: I do think that the PostgreSQL lists are available there. And other than that, they are on markmail.org, Nabble, etc. AFAIK several of those allow both reading and posting. Is there actually something about these interfaces that people

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-15 Thread Lee Hachadoorian
If anyone's interested, I've started accessing the postgres list through gmane.org (along with several other mailing lists I subscribe to). It's gives you the choice of reading the list as a threaded archive, a blog, or through an NNTP newsreader or an RSS feed. Everyone chooses their preferred

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 13/11/2010 03:43, Elliot Chance wrote: Hi everyone, This is my first post on the mailing list :) As of today I have started the first dedicated postgres forum at: http://forums.postgresql.com.au Hi there, Without in any way running down the effort you've put into the above, I'm just

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Dmitriy Igrishin
Hey, Yeah, we feel here at home and don't need forum. 2010/11/13 Raymond O'Donnell r...@iol.ie On 13/11/2010 03:43, Elliot Chance wrote: Hi everyone, This is my first post on the mailing list :) As of today I have started the first dedicated postgres forum at:

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Guillaume Lelarge
Le 13/11/2010 17:43, Raymond O'Donnell a écrit : On 13/11/2010 03:43, Elliot Chance wrote: Hi everyone, This is my first post on the mailing list :) As of today I have started the first dedicated postgres forum at: http://forums.postgresql.com.au Hi there, Without in any way running

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: Actually, you could be quite surprised on the number of people not willing to use a mailing list, and ready to use web forums. I think this is a generational thing. Most of us who've been running linux or a *nix for a while prefer to have the

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Tom Lane
Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com writes: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: Actually, you could be quite surprised on the number of people not willing to use a mailing list, and ready to use web forums. I think this is a generational thing. I'm not nearly as concerned

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Tom Lane wrote: I'm not nearly as concerned about whether there are forums as about having rogue forums outside the postgresql.org domain. People could misperceive such things as having some official status, which would lead to conclusions like postgres must be dead

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Thom Brown
On 13 November 2010 18:49, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com writes: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: Actually, you could be quite surprised on the number of people not willing to use a mailing list, and ready to use web forums. I

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown t...@linux.com writes: It's a shame that a forum can't act as a front-end for a mailing list, so signing up to the forum actually signs you up to a mailing list (if you're not already signed up), but without receiving any emails. Messages posted to the forum would get sent to the

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Tom Lane wrote: That would be cool. Wonder if there's something like that out there already. I don't know if BUI-based subscription is supported, but there are reported solutions. Take a look at gmane.org (mail-Usenet news groups) and see if that might work. Rich --

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Joe Conway
On 11/13/2010 11:24 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Thom Brown t...@linux.com writes: It's a shame that a forum can't act as a front-end for a mailing list, so signing up to the forum actually signs you up to a mailing list (if you're not already signed up), but without receiving any emails. Messages

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Thom Brown
On 13 November 2010 19:38, Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com wrote: On 11/13/2010 11:24 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Thom Brown t...@linux.com writes: It's a shame that a forum can't act as a front-end for a mailing list, so signing up to the forum actually signs you up to a mailing list (if you're

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 19:21 +0100, Guillaume Lelarge wrote: Le 13/11/2010 17:43, Raymond O'Donnell a écrit : On 13/11/2010 03:43, Elliot Chance wrote: Hi everyone, This is my first post on the mailing list :) As of today I have started the first dedicated postgres forum at:

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Thom Brown
On 13 November 2010 19:44, Thom Brown t...@linux.com wrote: On 13 November 2010 19:38, Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com wrote: On 11/13/2010 11:24 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Thom Brown t...@linux.com writes: It's a shame that a forum can't act as a front-end for a mailing list, so signing up to

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread thatsanicehatyouhave
I've used lists where the the line between forum and mailing list is blurred. See: http://www.cocoabuilder.com/ This is actually a web interface for a couple of mailing lists, and is a great tool for searching past posts. You can't post to the web site though - it is strictly a third-party

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Michael Gould
I would like to see this type of setup used.  I use my cell phone for about 90% of my internet access during the day when I'm on the road.  I've found in the past that forums usually have better search tools and they also will not fill up my email address.  I find many things in these forums which

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Saturday 13 November 2010 1:52:11 pm thatsanicehatyouh...@mac.com wrote: I've used lists where the the line between forum and mailing list is blurred. See: http://www.cocoabuilder.com/ This is actually a web interface for a couple of mailing lists, and is a great tool for searching past

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread LazyTrek
I must say that I come from a generation not used to mailing lists, but have adopted them for PostgreSQL recently. One of the main things I don't like is that my email address is now out there for crawlers to capture (thanks to the archive) and spam. For this reason I use an alias email address

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread David Boreham
On 11/13/2010 3:31 PM, LazyTrek wrote: Do the long standing members not have problems with spam? As you can see I use a list alias. However, in my experience the notion that you can avoid spam by not frequenting mailing lists is quaint to say the least. The spammers have had ways to find,

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Craig Ringer
On 11/14/2010 03:13 AM, Thom Brown wrote: It's a shame that a forum can't act as a front-end for a mailing list, so signing up to the forum actually signs you up to a mailing list (if you're not already signed up), but without receiving any emails. Messages posted to the forum would get sent

Re: [GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-13 Thread Dennis Gearon
One thing that makes me agree with this is the antiquated format of the digest emails. I hate google mail, but I love the google groups application. If postgres had a combination online forum/google groups thing (if there is such a thing), communication would be much improved. Now, I KNOW

[GENERAL] The first dedicated PostgreSQL forum

2010-11-12 Thread Elliot Chance
Hi everyone, This is my first post on the mailing list :) As of today I have started the first dedicated postgres forum at: http://forums.postgresql.com.au I would much appreciate anyone that has the time to sign up and subscribe to some of the forums ready to answer incoming posts. Any