It would be great to have a section in PBE2 about fonts. I find them very
confusing - TrueType, FreeType, Logical, etc. Understanding how they're
handled in Pharo requires background knowledge, and an overview and a few
specific examples could really do some good.
Cheers,
Sean
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On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
It would be great to have a section in PBE2 about fonts. I find them very
confusing - TrueType, FreeType, Logical, etc. Understanding how they're
handled in Pharo requires background knowledge, and an overview and a few
specific examples
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On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
It would be great to have a section in PBE2 about fonts. I find them very
confusing - TrueType, FreeType, Logical
Gary Chambers-4 wrote
always look up fonts via LogicalFont class methods these days...
Thanks, Gary! That actually solved an immediate problem I was dealing with
:) And I'm hoping a font guru will take a deeper cut for us ignorant masses
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No prob
Regards, Gary
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Gary Chambers-4 wrote
always look up fonts via LogicalFont
Hi,
For me the new fonts used on www.pharo-project.org are hard to read. The
rendering on Firefox / Windows is not nice too.
What do you think ?
Laurent Laffont
They're good to read in Safari on MacOS but I must say I found myself wondering
if I had accidentally set strange preferences to narrow the fonts :) It's
just... I'm not used to seeing such a font on the web
On 11.04.2011, at 13:47, laurent laffont wrote:
Hi,
For me the new fonts used
hehe, I wondered how long it takes to notice the new fonts ;)
We can revert to the old font if the web font is not an improvement... Geert
also noted that the font we embedded does not look the same on all
browsers/platforms.
Cheers,
Adrian
On Apr 11, 2011, at 13:47 , laurent laffont wrote:
It does not work on my safari :)
Please revert ;D
On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
hehe, I wondered how long it takes to notice the new fonts ;)
We can revert to the old font if the web font is not an improvement... Geert
also noted that the font we embedded does not
Hello all,
What is the best way to create/access fonts? So far, TextStyle defaultFont
seems to work. I was about to write that I was feeling lost otherwise when I
recalled setting fonts by name in Migrate, and a comment therein reveals that I
stole some preferences from Lukas who used
On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:16 25PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
What about what Microsoft (sorry...) calls font metrics? By involving a
device context (canvas in our world), one can find out how big a particular
string will be on the target device's resolution, and allowing for kerning.
So
On 19 April 2010 17:16, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
Hello all,
What is the best way to create/access fonts? So far, TextStyle defaultFont
seems to work. I was about to write that I was feeling lost otherwise when I
recalled setting fonts by name in Migrate, and a comment
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Johansen
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts for dummies
On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:16 25PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
What about what
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts for dummies
On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:47 17PM, Henrik Johansen wrote:
StrikeFonts take their glyphs from a bitmap, thus will have constant
pixel sizes. (decentKern is used for italic glyphs though) As far as I know,
kerning
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts for dummies
On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:16 25PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
What about what Microsoft (sorry...) calls font metrics? By involving a
device context (canvas in our world), one can find out how big a particular
string
On 19.04.2010 21:10, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
That will take some (re)reading, but is much appreciated. The fact that the
Canvas is not involved is deeply discouraging: one should not have to edit a
class method in order to involve a higher-resolution output device :(
Please note, the output
On 19.04.2010 21:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
That will take some (re)reading, but is much appreciated. The fact that the
Canvas is not involved is deeply discouraging: one should not have to edit a
class method in order to involve a
On 19.04.2010 21:16, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I'm not sure how to read it's not the kerning you are looking for.
Read it as if you meant kerning in the sense that the width of a string
~= width of each individual character i.e., the ascent/descentKerns in
StrikeFonts are not used for this.
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Johansen
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On 19.04.2010 21:10, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
That will take some (re)reading, but is much appreciated. The fact
Sperre
Johansen
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On 19.04.2010 21:16, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I'm not sure how to read it's not the kerning you are looking for.
Read it as if you meant kerning
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On 19.04.2010 21:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On Apr 19
Hello all,
I just looked at the 12.2 web image, and noted that the Fonts directory is
gone, but the anti-aliased fonts appear to be working. Is there simple summary
of the relevant changes and what they imply for the end user? It looks like
good things have happened, but what?
Lukas, are
I don't know what the 12.2 web image is and how this is related to
my load scripts?
Lukas, are your build scripts on the Wiki updated for the changes?
My load scripts are for PharoCore 1.0rc1 and set the bitmap fonts.
Lukas
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts
I don't know what the 12.2 web image is and how this is related to my load
scripts?
Lukas, are your build scripts on the Wiki updated for the changes?
My load scripts are for PharoCore 1.0rc1 and set the bitmap fonts.
Lukas
: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts
I don't know what the 12.2 web image is and how this is related to my load
scripts?
Lukas, are your build scripts on the Wiki updated for the changes?
My load scripts are for PharoCore 1.0rc1 and set the bitmap fonts.
Lukas
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Are the bitmap fonts by choice or compromise (perhaps OS specific)?
The bitmap fonts look ok (in the standard Squeak theme) and are faster
than the true-type fonts. So it is a compromise.
Lukas
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Hi Alexandre,
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Alexandre Bergelalexan...@bergel.eu wrote:
In a core 10401, I copied the Font folder next to the image. When I
open the font chooser, one 'Accuny' is listed. Apparently, the font
folder is not scanned. Is there a way to enforce this?
all Pharo
In a core 10401, I copied the Font folder next to the image. When I
open the font chooser, one 'Accuny' is listed. Apparently, the font
folder is not scanned. Is there a way to enforce this?
all Pharo images contain nice fonts by default, a very cool code
browser, syntax highlighting,
Dear List,
In a core 10401, I copied the Font folder next to the image. When I
open the font chooser, one 'Accuny' is listed. Apparently, the font
folder is not scanned. Is there a way to enforce this?
Few release earlier, the following expression worked as expected:
Alex: I don't know if I understand you, but FreeType has to scan for new
installed or removed fonts. In the beginning this was done when the image
was open. But as this takes several seconds and this were not something very
common, it was removed from startup. However, as you can read here:
Hi,
I ran my usual font setting script (see below) on
pharo0.1-10371dev09.07.1 and the fonts did not get set. I ran the same
code on Pharo0.1Core-10371 and it worked.
Any idea what is the difference between the dev and the core images
regarding this issue? Is it because of some
It would be nice to add this code snippet to here:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba gi...@iam.unibe.ch wrote:
Hi again :),
Indeed, reinitializing the font system seems to have solved the problem:
FreeTypeFontProvider current
Done.
Doru
On 8 Jul 2009, at 14:50, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
It would be nice to add this code snippet to here:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba gi...@iam.unibe.ch
wrote:
Hi again :),
Indeed, reinitializing the font
Note that there is a preference to update the fonts at
image startup automatically.
This was enabled in former images and is now disabled
by default.
Bye
Torsten
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Hi
I juste downloaded the latest pharo 10342 and I noticed that if I
remove the Fonts folder, it does not look for DejaVu fonts already
installed on my MacOs system. Instead I got crappy fonts.
Is this a known bug?
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Lukas Renggli wrote:
I've made a similar experience. Pharo only seems to use the fonts if
they are in a sub-directory of the image. It would be cool, if the
fonts would also be detected when they are in a sub-directory of the
VM or installed in the system. Maybe we can fix that on Saturday?
Hi,
From: simon.den...@inria.fr
To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:08:16 +0200
Subject: [Pharo-project] Fonts directory necessary in pharo-dev
Hi
I juste downloaded the latest pharo 10342 and I noticed that if I
remove the Fonts folder, it does
On 2 juil. 09, at 14:03, Andrew Tween wrote:
Hi,
From: simon.den...@inria.fr
To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:08:16 +0200
Subject: [Pharo-project] Fonts directory necessary in pharo-dev
Hi
I juste downloaded the latest pharo 10342 and I noticed
On 2-Jul-09, at 3:51 AM, Michael Rueger wrote:
The Sophie FileLocations package has a call to find the platform
specific font directory (or even directories?).
I've not looked but I think it's *directories* since the user can have
a font directory.
We also kept a list of the found font
On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:25 AM, Geert wrote:
disaser seems a strong word.
Nothing bad intended here, I thought the bit of would have
softened the user experience disaster :)
I was only referring to the fact that how system (or should they be
called image?) preferences are currently
disaser seems a strong word.
It is far better than better.
And now we will have another one based on alain's work.
Now you can also help.
On Apr 15, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Geert wrote:
Scripts like this are indeed useful ... there should however not be
a need for such scripts if the Preferences
disaser seems a strong word.
Nothing bad intended here, I thought the bit of would have softened the user
experience disaster :)
I was only referring to the fact that how system (or should they be called
image?) preferences are currently managed is far from intuitive or
user-friendly. The
Scripts like this are indeed useful ... there should however not be a need for
such scripts if the Preferences were easier to manage. From a usability
point of view its not just the fonts that need attention though, the whole
preference browser is currently a bit of a user experience
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Damien Pollet damien.pol...@gmail.com wrote:
The other Damien was lobbying for the inclusion of DejaVu. Since this
is going to require a new VM, what about making the jump at the same
time as the closure VMs ?
+1 (from the other Damien)
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Damien Pollet damien.pol...@gmail.com wrote:
The other Damien was lobbying for the inclusion of DejaVu. Since this
is going to require a new VM, what about making the jump at the same
Why is this requiring a new VM? Or did you mean an updated .app structure?
Why is this requiring a new VM? Or did you mean an updated .app structure?
Yes, I should have said VM application. Point is, the .app bundle is
designed for this purpose, and images with preconfigured fonts will
break or look ugly if the fonts are not there.
The alternative possibilities are
On Apr 10, 2009, at 14:17 , Damien Pollet wrote:
Why is this requiring a new VM? Or did you mean an updated .app
structure?
Yes, I should have said VM application. Point is, the .app bundle is
designed for this purpose, and images with preconfigured fonts will
break or look ugly if the
Yep. How would we package the fonts for Unix and Windows VMs?
For windows I'm not the one to ask :)
For linux, dejavu is very often (on all main distros anyway) already
available and used globally, so the only thing needed would be to make
sure that the packagers add a dependancy in the squeak
The other Damien was lobbying for the inclusion of DejaVu. Since this
is going to require a new VM, what about making the jump at the same
time as the closure VMs ?
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:12, Serge Stinckwich
serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Damien Cassou
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[mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet
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To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts working great
The other Damien was lobbying for the inclusion of DejaVu. Since this is going
Hi,
I've set-up the following script (based on a previous message in this
list) for people using a recent VM and having DejaVu:
|font codeFont|
font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 10.
codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9.
Preferences
And...you can always replace the font name with another if you like...just
look at exactly what it is called in the font dialog box when you choose a
new font manually!
Rob
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
I've set-up the following script
may be we should start to add such nice snippets on the wiki :)
Stef
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
I've set-up the following script (based on a previous message in this
list) for people using a recent VM and having DejaVu:
|font codeFont|
font := LogicalFont
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
may be we should start to add such nice snippets on the wiki :)
Unnecessary because Pharo will come with a great font included.
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I don't think that this is the point. Just that like that people can
know how to script their environment.
stef
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
may be we should start to add such nice snippets on the wiki :)
Unnecessary because Pharo
and evaluate.
Bill
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To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts working
Thanks robert.
I'm sure that somebody will help you.
Stef
On Mar 5, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Robert Roland wrote:
Hi all,
I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo
image mostly
on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by
having
nice fonts in the
There is a FT2Plugin plugin buried in
http://opensophie.org/
On 4-Mar-09, at 10:46 PM, Robert Roland wrote:
Hi all,
I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo
image mostly
on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by
having
nice fonts in the
John and everyone else,
Thanks for your help here!
I used John's idea and grabbed the FT2Plugin from the SophieReader archive
and my fonts look great now! Bitstream Vera Sans is much more pleasant than
Accuny! :)
If anyone else is trying to do the same, the reader archive has FT2Plugin
inside
Cool, thanks for the information Robert ;)
2009/3/5 Robert Roland rob.rol...@gmail.com:
John and everyone else,
Thanks for your help here!
I used John's idea and grabbed the FT2Plugin from the SophieReader archive
and my fonts look great now! Bitstream Vera Sans is much more pleasant than
John M McIntosh writes:
There is a FT2Plugin plugin buried in
http://opensophie.org/
On 4-Mar-09, at 10:46 PM, Robert Roland wrote:
Another way to get the FreeType plugin and also the sub-pixel
extensions for bltblit is to use the VM I announced above:
What is the exupery vm ? and which are the differences to to standard squeak
vm ?
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM, br...@kampjes.demon.co.uk wrote:
John M McIntosh writes:
There is a FT2Plugin plugin buried in
http://opensophie.org/
On 4-Mar-09, at 10:46 PM, Robert Roland wrote:
Mariano Martinez Peck writes:
What is the exupery vm ? and which are the differences to to standard squeak
vm ?
A standard VM with the extensions required to run Exupery, a JIT
written in Smalltalk. You're not going to notice the Exupery
extensions unless you also load the compiler into the
Ahh okok. Thanks!
Good to know about the project.
Cheers,
Mariano
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:29 PM, br...@kampjes.demon.co.uk wrote:
Mariano Martinez Peck writes:
What is the exupery vm ? and which are the differences to to standard
squeak
vm ?
A standard VM with the extensions
Hi all,
I feel dumb asking this question, but I've been using the Pharo image mostly
on a Mac, with the FT2Plugin installed, so I've gotten spoiled by having
nice fonts in the image.
I've started wanting to use my Linux desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) too, but there
doesn't appear to be a Linux
On 10.02.2009, at 10:48, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Dear Gary and his team,
I am truly delighted to see that a native font may be installed. This
is really cool! Very snappy as well.
I have a suggestion. Probably you though about it, but let me try :-)
Each time I open an image, the cache is
AM
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fonts in Pharo
On 10.02.2009, at 10:48, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Dear Gary and his team,
I am truly delighted to see that a native font may be installed. This
is really cool! Very snappy as well.
I have a suggestion. Probably you though about it, but let me
Dear Gary and his team,
I am truly delighted to see that a native font may be installed. This
is really cool! Very snappy as well.
I have a suggestion. Probably you though about it, but let me try :-)
Each time I open an image, the cache is checked. I guess this is to
prevent a change in the
On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I started to go over
http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates
to see if some of the fixes of yoshiki for unicode and others were
there.
Here is a list of names that may be should be further investigated
I'm
to add more data related to fonts.
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--squeak-dev---ANN--3.10-final-is-out-p16182045.html
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6523
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6336
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6520 (sounds like a hack)
On
I started to go over
http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates
to see if some of the fixes of yoshiki for unicode and others were
there.
Here is a list of names that may be should be further investigated
- 1622fontFix-sw.cs
- 1626FontNameGlitch-y..
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: [Pharo-project] Fonts
Specifically the Alt-k (opt for Mac users :-) ) keyboard option for
ParagraphEditor...
With FreeType and many fonts installed the menu is unmanageable (can't
even get to the more option
Specifically the Alt-k (opt for Mac users :-) ) keyboard option for
ParagraphEditor...
With FreeType and many fonts installed the menu is unmanageable (can't even
get to the more option)...
Perhaps it would be good to extend UIManager with an entry-point for
choosing a font, passing off to
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