Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread bruce78rpm
He said that as far as he knows the paint was applied at the factor, And where pray tell did he derive that knowledge from ? Me thinks very strongly, that it is a figment of his vast imagination !! - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread Darrell Lehman
Or perhaps more accurately half-vast. ? bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: He said that as far as he knows the paint was applied at the factor, And where pray tell did he derive that knowledge from ? Me thinks very strongly, that it is a figment of his vast imagination !! - Original

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread The Farmers
What is the purpose of continuing to beat this seller's description? While we agree that it is highly unlikely the paint was applied at the factory, the paint is good enough that a seller without vast phonograph experience could easily think it looks as old as the machine, and therefore as far

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread b...@taney.com
I would not assume he is trying to cheat anyone. The paint does look aged and could have very likely been done when it was new.It looks professional, Although it was certainly not done at the factory, he may just not know that. -- Bill Taney Sent From My iPad On Apr 10, 2011, at 6:53 AM,

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread Mike Stitt
Wow what a thread. I have a beautiful branded case gem, mint even with the recorder. I also have some decals from the 50's that are flowers. I'm willing to paint the whole thing black and add the flowers to the case and horn. I will throw in a very early Edison Gem horn that has no decal but

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread john robles
Ya know, I've done a good bit of assuming myself. He doesn't say anywhere that this was done at the factory. He just says its decorated and rare. Someone liked it enough to pay $1257 for it, I hope they didn't think it was factory decorated. John --- On Sun, 4/10/11, b...@taney.com

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread Rich
It does represent a spruced up GEM of times past. Not ever being factory should not be an issue. This independent refurbishment was common in the 20s and 30s due to the wonderful economic conditions of the times. Well preserved examples are less than common though. On 04/10/2011 11:39 AM, The

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread Avonlea Kitchen and Bathroom Concepts
I agree with you Greg Farmer. - Original Message - From: The Farmers g...@usfamily.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real? What is the purpose of continuing to beat this seller's

[Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread DeeDee Blais
I can't help myself... My mother-in-law did toll painting back in the sixties and seventies and it looks exactly like the Gem. If anyone likes, I could show her the photos for her opinion. It looks like a sixties job to me. Wow, that's fifty years ago! Jerry B.

Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread Aph4990
In a message dated 4/10/11 4:33:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, deedeebl...@yahoo.com writes: I can't help myself... My mother-in-law did toll painting back in the sixties and seventies and it looks exactly like the Gem. If anyone likes, I could show her the photos for her opinion.

Re: [Phono-L] eBay

2011-04-10 Thread Vinyl Visions
I have some very rare popcorn bowls or candy dishes that were made by Victor and they look like real records... very rare because I haven't seen many of them (thank goodness). Any takers for $600 before I list them on eBay and find a sucker willing to pay $1,000?

Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread David Dazer
I think Jerry meant tole painting.  I seem to recall he got beat up pretty bad over a typographical error a while back and he took it all very well.  Let's just let this once pass.  Jerry contributes a lot to the group and to the hobby in general and certainly deserves a break now and then.

Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread Aph4990
In a message dated 4/10/11 6:06:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: By the way, what is toll painting? In the 50's-60's - toll painting took a toll on your health, because paint contained lead. :) OK. Since I knew you made up that bit of information I went

Re: [Phono-L] Smith's Horns

2011-04-10 Thread Steven Medved
Hello Jay, It is a beautiful machine and in my opinion it would sell for more than a regular Gem. I like how someone fixed it up. Speaking of fixing things up does anyone have any photos of the horns the Smiths used to sell that they had restored? They came to the Orlando show and just

Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread Darrell Lehman
The TOLE painting took a toll on everybody who's stuck with it now! Much like the guilt he felt over the gilt!!! Vinyl Visions wrote: I'll be waiting for my mother-in law. One of my favorite songs... By the way, what is toll painting? In the 50's-60's - toll painting took a toll on your

Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread Aph4990
In a message dated 4/10/11 6:06:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: By the way, what is toll painting? In the 50's-60's - toll painting took a toll on your health, because paint contained lead. :) OK. Since I knew that you made that bit of information up--I

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread Vinyl Visions
Apparently it didn't hurt the price on this one... $1,200+ That's what is puzzling about eBay. Some great items go cheap, and others - like this GEM and the Frankenphone with the PVC horn elbow from a few weeks ago, go over the top. Don't get me wrong - the GEM was attractively done, but it

Re: [Phono-L] eBay GEM - Is this real?

2011-04-10 Thread zonophone2006
HI STEVE I AGREE I HAVE SEVERAL COLLECTOR FRIENDS WHO HAVE ONE OFF CASES THAT WERE DONE BY OWNERS OF THE PERIOD WITH SOME VERY FANCY EMBELISHMENTS I AGREE IT MAY HURT THE PRICE BUT THEY ARE INTERESTING JUST THE SAME ZONO -Original Message- From: The Farmers g...@usfamily.net

[Phono-L] Spelling Error!

2011-04-10 Thread DeeDee Blais
OK, it's tole painting. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem

2011-04-10 Thread John Maeder
There's a folk-painting style called 'rosemaling'. I'm not sure if it's exactly the same as tole-painting, but it's quite similar. From: aph4...@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:28:47 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decorated Gem In a message dated 4/10/11