Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
As far as I know, Victor didn't make any 8-4's after 1927. Does this mean all of them would have this problem unless someone retrofitted them afterward? From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:25:33 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4

Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
The phrase period appropriate is an interesting one. I've heard it said that the window for records to produce optimal sound on an oprthophonic machine is about 1925-1930; before that and their not orthophonic, after that and they were recorded for optimal reproduction with an electric

Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
I wonder if the real difference with the Vivatonal is, as is the case with pre-orthophonic machines, in the reproducer. I've always liked the styling of Columbia machines better than Victors, but I own very few of the former because they just don't sound very good. It sounds, from what people

[Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
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Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
Thanks, Bill. It sounds like there's definitely a go big or go home school when it comes to orthophonics. Since I probably only have room for one machine, I suspect many out there would advise me to hold out for a Credenza. Do you think most 80+ year-old orthophonic horns need to be

[Phono-L] Majestic model 181 radio/phonograph

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
I've recently been offered a Majestic model 181 radio/phonograph. Does anyone out there have any experience with these, and, if so, have any caveats? I know about the pot metal in the tuning condensers, and I know I'll have a serious problem if either of the 50 tubes are dead; but what about

Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Fraser
It's a logical assumption. I believe that if I listen to something that was marketed at the same time as the device upon which I'm listening to it, I will have the most authentic experience. There are many others that don't agree with that and I'm certainly not intending to open the door to

Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread harvey kravitz
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Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Fraser
At that cheap price, just get the 8-4. Who knows when a credenza will turn up locally? It's better to be able to enjoy it now, and then improve it when you have a chance. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 19, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Richard richard_ru...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Stanford
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Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

2014-03-19 Thread Ron L'Herault
The Vivatonal machines did not have the great horn design that Victor had. The reproducers are close, but if memory serves a bit heavier than the Orthos. The Columbia diaphragm is not as pleated as the Victor diaphragm and the needle bar bearings are less complicated but they work very well,

Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
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Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

2014-03-19 Thread Philip Carli
They all would have had the same issue. Robert Baumbach used to have original replacement goosenecks and would sell them along with a reproduction of the circular sent to Victor dealers; he may still have a few, though I bought mine nearly three years ago. The 8-4's tonearm gooseneck, like all

Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread Richard
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Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread bruce78rpm
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Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Fraser
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Re: [Phono-L] Can anyone identify this Sonora?

2014-03-19 Thread robert coon
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