[Phono-L] Home varnish transfer details...
Loran... glad you are back. Thank you for this great list. Sometime back there was a discussion about the dating of the varnish transfer Home banner labels on the cabinets. Is it archived on Phono-L? And, if so, how do I get into the archives to do a search? Please remember I am using a computer that has a crank on the side... Regards to all, Al Sefl
Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning
Gojo or Goop hand cleaner without pumice. Then use shoe polish. From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Cleaning To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:13:57 + Anybody got any advice on what to use to clean a cloth/leatherette portable? thanks in advance, Darrell nickja...@gmail.com
Re: [Phono-L] Take The Intelligence Test That Thomas Edison Gave to?Job Seekers (Antique Phonograph List)
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[Phono-L] Cleaning
Anybody got any advice on what to use to clean a cloth/leatherette portable? thanks in advance, Darrell nickja...@gmail.com
[Phono-L] Frow DD, p. 198
Hi, I notice that the circular Medallion on the Official Laboratory Disc Model (ca 1917) shows a woman with a wreath and a large building behind her. Is she supposed to be anyone in particular? Is the building supposed to be the Edison factory? Is she crowning TAE's enterprise? allen
[Phono-L] Hexaphone Part
Working on yet another Hexaphone and am seeking a lock mechanism for the lower front door. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Many thanks. Bob Kolba
[Phono-L] Terry Baer
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Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
I’m curious re the Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; can’t say I’ve seen a copy does it turn-up at all? Jamie From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Monday, 9 March 2015 9:03 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Hi Steve She set her price. I am always hesitant about making an offer; I would rather the seller state their price and then negotiate to a deal that benefits us both. The price she quoted me was a little retailish, but not quite. What made the day was that there were 300 Diamond Discs, and among them were 9 Long Plays, one with its original sleeve; an Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; two Tuning Records; and a copy og Holiday Greetings from the Bunch at Orange! There were double copies of three of the long play records, and I put those three on eBay and they went for about $700. My friend Marc bought the machine and several records, and two Edison albums from a C-2 that were in the mix. I am left with the Diamond Disc cabinet (there's a tag on the bottom that says Recreation Cabinet - Thomas A. Edison Inc. - Orange NJ. Most of the discs are 51000 and 8 series. Many are unplayed dealer stock. All in all it was a great find! John Robles On Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:00 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Obviously he bought the stuff from John. On Mar 8, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Someone named Marc has this same story on the Talking Machine forum. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY2JSRW5aSWNMNFJnSmFyU0pEWjJUM01aMUYwIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZDNkM2RmNTJhOWY5NDRlYmJkNTMxMWMxNTdkZmJkZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY2JSRW5aSWNMNFJnSmFyU0pEWjJUM01aMUYwIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZDNkM2RmNTJhOWY5NDRlYmJkNTMxMWMxNTdkZmJkZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 Image removed by sender. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
You never know where you will find a gem. Can’t wait to see the pictures. Kat Hall From the Desk of Kat Hall Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) Champagne Book Group Review Coordinator Author Liaison www.champagnebooks.com www.carnalpassions.com www.burstbooks.ca From: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:41 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Good evening all. Great finds are the thing that keep us all searching out there, so I thought I would share mine. This is long, but worth the read, I think. Several weeks ago, I was in a friend's luthiery studio (he builds guitars) in this artists cooperative. The first friday of each month they have an open house for the public to come into the studios and look at (and hopefully buy) art. This couple came into my friend's studio, and we got to talking. The husband plays sax in a 10 piece big band here (does ten pieces qualify as a big band?). The husband and my friend were talking, and I was talking to the wife. I told her I was familiar with that vintage of music because I collected and repaired antique phonographs. She got all excited and said she had a phonograph and record cabinet she wanted to sell, along with a large number of Edison records. Her grandfather was an Edison dealer who sold Diamond Disc phonographs in Phoenix, Arizona. He sponsored Tone Tests at a local auditorium, and there was a lot of paper such as programs, photos of the artists, newspaper clippings praising the performances, Edison Advertising materials, etc. Sadly she wants to keep all that as it is part of her family history. So anyway I was on my way to her home, thinking it's probably a C250 or something. I arrived on the scene, and in her entrance hall was an Edison Beethoven Edisonic phonograph with the Long Play attachment and reproducer!! The reproducer was in its original holder and cloth bag. The record cabinet she mentioned happened to be an original Edison Diamond Disc cabinet!! If you have never seen one, it is a long, low cabinet made of quartersawn oak, with two long pull down doors, one above the other. Each of the two rows holds 80 Diamond Discs. But the fun was not over... There was an OroTone 78rpm attachment in original box with instructions, in excellent condition. There was also a small black notebook with the index of discs in it. And then there were the discs. Over three hundred Diamond Discs, mainly in the 51000 series. And although many were without sleeves, as they had been in the cabinet, they are in amazingly good condition, most in E to M condition. Some was the dealer's personal collection, some is dealer stock. There are multiples on a couple of titles. And then there were the nine Long Play discs, one of which had it's original sleeve. The numbers I got were two copies each if 10001, 10002 and 10003, and one copy each of 10005, 10006 and 10008. And then there were the really special dealer discs...There were three discs that had no markings, no label, and were recorded only on one side. Two of them turned out to be tuning records for setting the correct speed of the machines, and one was the December 1912 Edison Advertising Record! It was a disc that was played on a machine, and Harry Humphries extols the virtues of the new Edison Diamond Disc phonographs.and how they are better than any other. I started going through the discs before I even got them off my truck, and in an Edison sleeve with no hole cut where the label is, I found it. Holiday Greetings from the Bunch at Orange!!! No original sleeve, sorry to say. Tomorrow I go to pick up the machine and cabinet. I will upload photos then. John Robles
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
Hi Rob! Been a long time! If you haven't received Terry's email address yet, drop me a note at john9...@pacbell.net and I will give it to you. John Robles On Friday, March 6, 2015 10:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Sorry john No red flag. Been on the list for a long time Rob Mallett aka Zono Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:16 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: We really need to make it clear once again that your name does not appear in the return address field or anywhere in the body of the email when you submit a message to this group. Whoever it is that is asking for Terry Baer's information is not signing their name. Peter Fraser has asked twice who it is, and the closest thing to a response was Just me. Still no name on the email. To me that raises a red flag. I wouldn't pass on the information without knowing the name of the person asking. John Robles On Friday, March 6, 2015 9:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
Rob Mallett. Aka zono Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: So, sign your email and I'll forward the message to him. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
Sorry john No red flag. Been on the list for a long time Rob Mallett aka Zono Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:16 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: We really need to make it clear once again that your name does not appear in the return address field or anywhere in the body of the email when you submit a message to this group. Whoever it is that is asking for Terry Baer's information is not signing their name. Peter Fraser has asked twice who it is, and the closest thing to a response was Just me. Still no name on the email. To me that raises a red flag. I wouldn't pass on the information without knowing the name of the person asking. John Robles On Friday, March 6, 2015 9:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Good evening all. Great finds are the thing that keep us all searching out there, so I thought I would share mine. This is long, but worth the read, I think. Several weeks ago, I was in a friend's luthiery studio (he builds guitars) in this artists cooperative. The first friday of each month they have an open house for the public to come into the studios and look at (and hopefully buy) art. This couple came into my friend's studio, and we got to talking. The husband plays sax in a 10 piece big band here (does ten pieces qualify as a big band?). The husband and my friend were talking, and I was talking to the wife. I told her I was familiar with that vintage of music because I collected and repaired antique phonographs. She got all excited and said she had a phonograph and record cabinet she wanted to sell, along with a large number of Edison records. Her grandfather was an Edison dealer who sold Diamond Disc phonographs in Phoenix, Arizona. He sponsored Tone Tests at a local auditorium, and there was a lot of paper such as programs, photos of the artists, newspaper clippings praising the performances, Edison Advertising materials, etc. Sadly she wants to keep all that as it is part of her family history. So anyway I was on my way to her home, thinking it's probably a C250 or something. I arrived on the scene, and in her entrance hall was an Edison Beethoven Edisonic phonograph with the Long Play attachment and reproducer!! The reproducer was in its original holder and cloth bag. The record cabinet she mentioned happened to be an original Edison Diamond Disc cabinet!! If you have never seen one, it is a long, low cabinet made of quartersawn oak, with two long pull down doors, one above the other. Each of the two rows holds 80 Diamond Discs. But the fun was not over... There was an OroTone 78rpm attachment in original box with instructions, in excellent condition. There was also a small black notebook with the index of discs in it. And then there were the discs. Over three hundred Diamond Discs, mainly in the 51000 series. And although many were without sleeves, as they had been in the cabinet, they are in amazingly good condition, most in E to M condition. Some was the dealer's personal collection, some is dealer stock. There are multiples on a couple of titles. And then there were the nine Long Play discs, one of which had it's original sleeve. The numbers I got were two copies each if 10001, 10002 and 10003, and one copy each of 10005, 10006 and 10008. And then there were the really special dealer discs...There were three discs that had no markings, no label, and were recorded only on one side. Two of them turned out to be tuning records for setting the correct speed of the machines, and one was the December 1912 Edison Advertising Record! It was a disc that was played on a machine, and Harry Humphries extols the virtues of the new Edison Diamond Disc phonographs.and how they are better than any other. I started going through the discs before I even got them off my truck, and in an Edison sleeve with no hole cut where the label is, I found it. Holiday Greetings from the Bunch at Orange!!! No original sleeve, sorry to say. Tomorrow I go to pick up the machine and cabinet. I will upload photos then. John Robles
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
So, sign your email and I'll forward the message to him. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
We really need to make it clear once again that your name does not appear in the return address field or anywhere in the body of the email when you submit a message to this group. Whoever it is that is asking for Terry Baer's information is not signing their name. Peter Fraser has asked twice who it is, and the closest thing to a response was Just me. Still no name on the email. To me that raises a red flag. I wouldn't pass on the information without knowing the name of the person asking. John Robles On Friday, March 6, 2015 9:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed
Listers: Does anyone have a recommendation or comments concerning the manufacturing of Exhibition reproducer back flange brackets, specifically where to obtain the rubber / resin liquid? A Friend and I are thinking of making them for our own use given the problems we have experienced lately with ones purchased from an unnamed vender. Those most recently obtained, apparently have poorly manufactured medal centers which stick on the tonearm U-tube, to the point they need to be removed from the reproducer and wrestled off with a tool! Most needed is a source for the rubber liquid, as we have many original centers and would only need to create a mold. Any observations / comments / referrals would be appreciated. Later Bob
Re: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed
Bob who? Contact me steve_nor...@msn.com I only ask so I can give you Mike's e-mail address. You may do as you please but I would suggest getting some from Mike as he already does what you are planning on doing using original inserts. I save up all my old inserts and give them to Mike each year at the Orlando show. If you only need a few I have a few extras. Steve Medved here, Mike Arcuri makes Exhibition flanges using originals with the process you are interested in doing. He sells them at around the same price as the ones you are not happy with, I think it was $7.50 each. Most of the time they are perfect, some times you need to remove the rubber from the inside of the brass insert as they are tight because you will get a small about of rubber on the inside. The ones that Sitko has made vary in size and he does use originals, I have gotten some that I had to open up, but the ones I have gotten lately from him are perfect. He will take any part back, that is why I deal with him. All I can say is see if they fit first, if they do not return them. If you dealer will not take them back start dealing with Ron. Rocky Mountain made a premium one for around $20 that the brass did not touch the reproducer and the rubber looked perfect, but they are no longer in business. Steve From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 23:18:26 + Listers: Does anyone have a recommendation or comments concerning the manufacturing of Exhibition reproducer back flange brackets, specifically where to obtain the rubber / resin liquid?A Friend and I are thinking of making them for our own use given the problems we have experienced lately with ones purchased from an unnamed vender. Those most recently obtained, apparently have poorly manufactured medal centers which “stick” on the tonearm U-tube, to the point they need to be removed from the reproducer and “wrestled” off with a tool! Most needed is a source for the rubber liquid, as we have many original centers and would only need to create a mold. Any observations / comments / referrals would be appreciated. Later Bob
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Obviously he bought the stuff from John. On Mar 8, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Someone named Marc has this same story on the Talking Machine forum. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Someone named Marc has this same story on the Talking Machine forum. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed
Steve: Sorry, I had seen the comments as to provide ones full name, didn’t realize how until you asked for my last name that folks mean “at the end of the narrative” because that is the only place to find the author’s name. . Thanks for the response and referral. In the event we have poor success, I surely will use Mike and have a good relationship with Ron and haven’t had any problem with his service and parts. We really want to try , and only use them for ourselves. Just part of the fever! *smile* Later Bob Maffit From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:04 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed Bob who? Contact me steve_nor...@msn.com I only ask so I can give you Mike's e-mail address. You may do as you please but I would suggest getting some from Mike as he already does what you are planning on doing using original inserts. I save up all my old inserts and give them to Mike each year at the Orlando show. If you only need a few I have a few extras. Steve Medved here, Mike Arcuri makes Exhibition flanges using originals with the process you are interested in doing. He sells them at around the same price as the ones you are not happy with, I think it was $7.50 each. Most of the time they are perfect, some times you need to remove the rubber from the inside of the brass insert as they are tight because you will get a small about of rubber on the inside. The ones that Sitko has made vary in size and he does use originals, I have gotten some that I had to open up, but the ones I have gotten lately from him are perfect. He will take any part back, that is why I deal with him. All I can say is see if they fit first, if they do not return them. If you dealer will not take them back start dealing with Ron. Rocky Mountain made a premium one for around $20 that the brass did not touch the reproducer and the rubber looked perfect, but they are no longer in business. Steve _ From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 23:18:26 + Listers: Does anyone have a recommendation or comments concerning the manufacturing of Exhibition reproducer back flange brackets, specifically where to obtain the rubber / resin liquid? A Friend and I are thinking of making them for our own use given the problems we have experienced lately with ones purchased from an unnamed vender. Those most recently obtained, apparently have poorly manufactured medal centers which “stick” on the tonearm U-tube, to the point they need to be removed from the reproducer and “wrestled” off with a tool! Most needed is a source for the rubber liquid, as we have many original centers and would only need to create a mold. Any observations / comments / referrals would be appreciated. Later Bob Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender.
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm
Re: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed
I always get mine from Ron Sitko and never had a problem with them at
all.Harvey Kravitz
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Subject: [Phono-L] Exhibition back flange rubber source info needed
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Does anyone have a recommendation or comments concerning the manufacturing of
Exhibition reproducer back flange brackets, specifically where to obtain the
rubber / resin liquid?A Friend and I are thinking of making them for our own
use given the problems we have experienced lately with ones purchased from an
unnamed vender. Those most recently obtained, apparently have poorly
manufactured medal centers which “stick” on the tonearm U-tube, to the point
they need to be removed from the reproducer and “wrestled” off with a tool!
Most needed is a source for the rubber liquid, as we have many original centers
and would only need to create a mold. Any observations / comments / referrals
would be appreciated. Later Bob
Re: [Phono-L] Terry Baer
Rob, John, Peter, fellow phonographers, I can be reached via email at *firstname.lastname*@gmail.com (substitute my first and last name as indicated with a dot between them). I was out of town and couldn't respond immediately and rather enjoyed the exchange on the subject. For those who don't know, I have been cataloging Triumph serial numbers for many years and the Idelia (as well as Ideal, Alva, Eclipse) shared the same matrix. While I haven't published the list I have shared information with various collectors researching such things. Have also been gathering Opera, Amberola (IA, IB, III only) and Concerts as well. I've always had the intention of publishing by model and just haven't had the time to do so. Kind regards, Terry On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Sorry john No red flag. Been on the list for a long time Rob Mallett aka Zono Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:16 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: We really need to make it clear once again that your name does not appear in the return address field or anywhere in the body of the email when you submit a message to this group. Whoever it is that is asking for Terry Baer's information is not signing their name. Peter Fraser has asked twice who it is, and the closest thing to a response was Just me. Still no name on the email. To me that raises a red flag. I wouldn't pass on the information without knowing the name of the person asking. John Robles On Friday, March 6, 2015 9:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Just me Trying to let him know of the idelia on ebay for another serial number for his compilation He may have it already It's close to mine and Aaron cramers Pass it on to him if you like Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Who's asking? Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Does anyone have his email address Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY3liSGQ4bVpGMjdoc0g5Q1FLMWJyWVFuTGRjIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZjc4Mzg5MDVhZTYzNDlmNTk3MmQ1ZTM3OTQxNDczZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY3liSGQ4bVpGMjdoc0g5Q1FLMWJyWVFuTGRjIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZjc4Mzg5MDVhZTYzNDlmNTk3MmQ1ZTM3OTQxNDczZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY3liSGQ4bVpGMjdoc0g5Q1FLMWJyWVFuTGRjIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZjc4Mzg5MDVhZTYzNDlmNTk3MmQ1ZTM3OTQxNDczZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 --
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Thanks John, the likelihood of me finding one then is slim along with the NZ DD. Kind regards, Jamie From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2015 9:40 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Hi Jamie. The 1912 version is a hard one to come by. Charley Hummel's copy is the one that was used to make those repros recently. I now of three selling at auction in the last 5 or 6 years, two went for around $300 and one went for 1000.00 in 2012. John Robles On Mar 9, 2015, at 3:50 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I’m curious re the Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; can’t say I’ve seen a copy does it turn-up at all? Jamie From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Monday, 9 March 2015 9:03 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Hi Steve She set her price. I am always hesitant about making an offer; I would rather the seller state their price and then negotiate to a deal that benefits us both. The price she quoted me was a little retailish, but not quite. What made the day was that there were 300 Diamond Discs, and among them were 9 Long Plays, one with its original sleeve; an Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; two Tuning Records; and a copy og Holiday Greetings from the Bunch at Orange! There were double copies of three of the long play records, and I put those three on eBay and they went for about $700. My friend Marc bought the machine and several records, and two Edison albums from a C-2 that were in the mix. I am left with the Diamond Disc cabinet (there's a tag on the bottom that says Recreation Cabinet - Thomas A. Edison Inc. - Orange NJ. Most of the discs are 51000 and 8 series. Many are unplayed dealer stock. All in all it was a great find! John Robles On Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:00 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Obviously he bought the stuff from John. On Mar 8, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Someone named Marc has this same story on the Talking Machine forum. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY2JSRW5aSWNMNFJnSmFyU0pEWjJUM01aMUYwIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZDNkM2RmNTJhOWY5NDRlYmJkNTMxMWMxNTdkZmJkZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/phono-l.org?p=eyJzIjoiY2JSRW5aSWNMNFJnSmFyU0pEWjJUM01aMUYwIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGhvbm8tbC5vcmdcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZDNkM2RmNTJhOWY5NDRlYmJkNTMxMWMxNTdkZmJkZjhcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJjZDRiZGQzNWI5MGE1ODZmZDZjMzczMGZmZGQzZWJhYTFkY2M2MjRiXCJdfSJ9 mime-attachment.jpg _ http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.avast.com?p=eyJzIjoiUG5faHlXV0RtNVRCcDNTSUxxZjJ6dGUxdFlVIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LmF2YXN0LmNvbVxcXC9cIixcImlkXCI6XCI1MmIyYmEzODQyNDI0M2I4OTY3Njc5OGUzOTM0MzRmZFwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcIjg5ODY1MDAwZTJiMGI1MDBiODliYTI1OTI4MDhlMjM2YWY4NjhkZmRcIl19In0 Image removed by sender. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.avast.com?p=eyJzIjoiUG5faHlXV0RtNVRCcDNTSUxxZjJ6dGUxdFlVIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LmF2YXN0LmNvbVxcXC9cIixcImlkXCI6XCI1MmIyYmEzODQyNDI0M2I4OTY3Njc5OGUzOTM0MzRmZFwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcIjg5ODY1MDAwZTJiMGI1MDBiODliYTI1OTI4MDhlMjM2YWY4NjhkZmRcIl19In0 protection is active. Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[Phono-L] Take The Intelligence Test That Thomas Edison Gave to Job Seekers
This is fun. http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/take-the-intelligence-test-that-thomas-edison-gave-to-j-1689489019 Take The Intelligence Test That Thomas Edison Gave to Job Seekers Today tech companies are infamous for asking silly questions at job interviews. How would I move Mount Fuji? If I knew that I probably wouldn't be sitting here for this job interview, would I, Microsoft? But companies like Apple and Facebook don't put employees through anything quite as exhausting as Thomas Edison's test for potential employees. It was filled with trivia largely considered irrelevant to any job under Edison, but the quiz was all anyone could talk about when the questions leaked in the Spring of 1921. And if you're a trivia masochist you can take the test below. Americans obsessed over the test following publication of many questions in the May 11, 1921 New York Times. From there the test was debated, copied, and parodied in newspapers and magazines around the country. By May 13, 1921 a full 146 test questions and answers, as remembered by two applicants with apparently fantastic memories, was published in the Times. Everybody had an opinion on the test, and those who scored well weren't shy to tell you about it. However, those who did well were definitely in the minority. The Chicago Tribune sent reporters down to the University of Chicago to see how students would fare. They asked them each 20 questions and nobody did well. Male students averaged a score of just 35 percent. Female students? Just 28 percent. The newspaper warned that this was a sign that kids these days were getting dumber. Reporters even quizzed Albert Einstein, who was said to have failed Edison's quiz for not knowing the speed of sound off the top of his head. Edison's youngest son Theodore, a student at MIT, did poorly as well when questioned by a visiting reporter. But according to the Edison biography by Randall Stross, the elder Edison assured his son he had guaranteed employment anyway. Ironically, Edison was said to have created the test because he was frustrated with college-educated applicants looking for work who didn't have the proper knowledge. As the National Parks Service points out, the test was changed multiple times after it leaked with the answers. But that didn't stop Americans from discussing the test as if it were the ultimate barometer of intelligence, and comparing notes on how well they did. Want to take the test for yourself? Be my guest. But remember that you have to answer as if you're living in 1921. Which, even with Google, is a bit tough. If you want to cheat, go ahead and skip to the bottom, where we've supplied the answers as they appeared in the New York Times. Any odd spellings have been maintained. Questions 1. What countries bound France? 2. What city and country produce the finest china? 3. Where is the River Volga? 4. What is the finest cotton grown? 5. What country consumed the most tea before the war? 6. What city in the United States leads in making laundry machines? 7. What city is the fur centre of the United States? 8. What country is the greatest textile producer? 9. Is Australia greater than Greenland in area? 10. Where is Copenhagen? 11. Where is Spitzbergen? 12. In what country other than Australia are kangaroos found? 13. What telescope is the largest in the world? 14. Who was Bessemer and what did he do? 15. How many states in the Union? 16. Where do we get prunes from? 17. Who was Paul Revere? 18. Who was John Hancock? 19. Who was Plutarch? 20. Who was Hannibal? 21. Who was Danton? 22. Who was Solon? 23. Who was Francis Marion? 24. Who was Leonidas? 25. Where did we get Louisiana from? 26. Who was Pizarro? 27. Who was Bolivar? 28. What war material did Chile export to the Allies during the war? 29. Where does most of the coffee come from? 30. Where is Korea? 31. Where is Manchuria? 32. Where was Napoleon born? 33. What is the highest rise of tide on the North American Coast? 34. Who invented logarithms? 35. Who was the Emperor of Mexico when Cortez landed? 36. Where is the Imperial Valley and what is it noted for? 37. What and where is the Sargasso Sea? 38. What is the greatest known depth of the ocean? 39. What is the name of a large inland body of water that has no outlet? 40. What is the capital of Pennsylvania? 41. What state is the largest? Next? 42. Rhode Island is the smallest state. What is the next and the next? 43. How far is it from New York to Buffalo? 44. How far is it from New York to San Francisco? 45. How far is it from New York to Liverpool? 46. Of what state is Helena the capital? 47. Of what state is Tallahassee the capital? 48. What state has the largest copper mines? 49. What state has the largest amethyst mines? 50. What is the name of a famous violin maker? 51. Who invented the modern paper-making machine? 52. Who invented the typesetting machine? 53. Who invented printing? 54.
Re: [Phono-L] Take The Intelligence Test That Thomas Edison Gave to Job Seekers
Too bad they didn’t have Jeopardy on TV then. Edison would have done well. Jim Nichol On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: This is fun. http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/take-the-intelligence-test-that-thomas-edison-gave-to-j-1689489019 http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/paleofuture.gizmodo.com?p=eyJzIjoiem1fUUVaSjBWX2FMS3RhQVU2bmZKRUN2SEo4IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcGFsZW9mdXR1cmUuZ2l6bW9kby5jb21cXFwvdGFrZS10aGUtaW50ZWxsaWdlbmNlLXRlc3QtdGhhdC10aG9tYXMtZWRpc29uLWdhdmUtdG8tai0xNjg5NDg5MDE5XCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZWZkNmYzNDIzMGM5NDY4NmI4YWM0YTYzYzM5MWE5ODZcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJlODA1ODJlZmMwY2FjY2IyM2I0OTAxZjYzNjY1ODRlOGQ5NmVjN2YyXCJdfSJ9 Take The Intelligence Test That Thomas Edison Gave to Job Seekers Today tech companies are infamous for asking silly questions at job interviews. How would I move Mount Fuji? If I knew that I probably wouldn't be sitting here for this job interview, would I, Microsoft http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.glassdoor.com?p=eyJzIjoiVHdXRDF4bVRzLWw0OTNxLU9SeGRvN1FrTnZrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LmdsYXNzZG9vci5jb21cXFwvSW50ZXJ2aWV3XFxcL2hvdy13b3VsZC15b3UtbW92ZS1tb3VudC1mdWppLVFUTl8xMzg2Ni5odG1cIixcImlkXCI6XCJlZmQ2ZjM0MjMwYzk0Njg2YjhhYzRhNjNjMzkxYTk4NlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcIjFiZmQ3MTEyZmQzMzIzYjI1ZjU2ZDIyYmY2NDVlZWY2YTQ5YWJiMmFcIl19In0? But companies like Apple and Facebook don't put employees through anything quite as exhausting as Thomas Edison's test for potential employees. It was filled with trivia largely considered irrelevant to any job under Edison, but the quiz was all anyone could talk about when the questions leaked in the Spring of 1921. And if you're a trivia masochist you can take the test below. Americans obsessed over the test following publication of many questions in the May 11, 1921 New York Times http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/query.nytimes.com?p=eyJzIjoiTW02NVYyeXROWXR3WjgwUVljVUpFVU1La2lnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvcXVlcnkubnl0aW1lcy5jb21cXFwvbWVtXFxcL2FyY2hpdmUtZnJlZVxcXC9wZGY_cmVzPTlCMDVFMURBMUUzRkVFM0FCQzQ5NTJERkIzNjY4MzhBNjM5RURFXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZWZkNmYzNDIzMGM5NDY4NmI4YWM0YTYzYzM5MWE5ODZcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI5NTU5ZTFkNjNiNTViNDk0N2IwYzUzZjljNGFkNzUyZWUzMGU5NzI5XCJdfSJ9. From there the test was debated, copied http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.newspapers.com?p=eyJzIjoiT1JYdU9IaVltX0pJTHJWMkZ1MUxyZkNWTWNBIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3Lm5ld3NwYXBlcnMuY29tXFxcL2ltYWdlXFxcLzE2MzkxNzM5XCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiZWZkNmYzNDIzMGM5NDY4NmI4YWM0YTYzYzM5MWE5ODZcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI2MmE4ZDI2OWMwNGI0YTEyYjI0ZjRmYjI4ZTE1NmI3NTc5NDQyZjU2XCJdfSJ9, and parodied in newspapers and magazines around the country. By May 13, 1921 a full 146 test questions and answers, as remembered by two applicants with apparently fantastic memories, was published in the Times. Everybody had an opinion on the test, and those who scored well weren't shy to tell you about it. However, those who did well were definitely in the minority. The Chicago Tribune sent reporters down to the University of Chicago to see how students would fare. They asked them each 20 questions http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/archives.chicagotribune.com?p=eyJzIjoiWHQ1YW5pSDlvMUxFZGJEM1lDeEhRczdHRExJIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvYXJjaGl2ZXMuY2hpY2Fnb3RyaWJ1bmUuY29tXFxcLzE5MjFcXFwvMDVcXFwvMTFcXFwvcGFnZVxcXC83XFxcL2FydGljbGVcXFwvZWRpc29uLXJpZ2h0LWNoaWNhZ28tZmFsbHMtZG93bi1vbi10ZXN0c1wiLFwiaWRcIjpcImVmZDZmMzQyMzBjOTQ2ODZiOGFjNGE2M2MzOTFhOTg2XCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiYmI2NmY3MmZlZTc2ZDlmNDgwYzkzZDI3NDUxZjViNTBhMzZlZjNiYlwiXX0ifQ and nobody did well. Male students averaged a score of just 35 percent. Female students? Just 28 percent. The newspaper warned that this was a sign that kids these days were getting dumber. Reporters even quizzed Albert Einstein, who was said to have failed http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/alberteinstein.info?p=eyJzIjoiR3B6eldONWxXSEM3T0IyMkY2NVFLcGl1MGM0IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvYWxiZXJ0ZWluc3RlaW4uaW5mb1xcXC92dWZpbmQxXFxcL1JlY29yZFxcXC9FQVIwMDAwNjMzODVcXFwvTG9jYXRpb25cIixcImlkXCI6XCJlZmQ2ZjM0MjMwYzk0Njg2YjhhYzRhNjNjMzkxYTk4NlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcIjNhOTZiOTgwYzRjZmRiMmUwODI4ZGEzYThkZDVlMDY2YTIyYWIxYjhcIl19In0 Edison's quiz for not knowing the speed of sound off the top of his head. Edison's youngest son Theodore, a student at MIT, did poorly as well when questioned by a visiting reporter. But according to the Edison biography http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.amazon.com?p
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Hi Jamie. The 1912 version is a hard one to come by. Charley Hummel's copy is the one that was used to make those repros recently. I now of three selling at auction in the last 5 or 6 years, two went for around $300 and one went for 1000.00 in 2012. John Robles On Mar 9, 2015, at 3:50 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I’m curious re the Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; can’t say I’ve seen a copy does it turn-up at all? Jamie From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Monday, 9 March 2015 9:03 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Hi Steve She set her price. I am always hesitant about making an offer; I would rather the seller state their price and then negotiate to a deal that benefits us both. The price she quoted me was a little retailish, but not quite. What made the day was that there were 300 Diamond Discs, and among them were 9 Long Plays, one with its original sleeve; an Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; two Tuning Records; and a copy og Holiday Greetings from the Bunch at Orange! There were double copies of three of the long play records, and I put those three on eBay and they went for about $700. My friend Marc bought the machine and several records, and two Edison albums from a C-2 that were in the mix. I am left with the Diamond Disc cabinet (there's a tag on the bottom that says Recreation Cabinet - Thomas A. Edison Inc. - Orange NJ. Most of the discs are 51000 and 8 series. Many are unplayed dealer stock. All in all it was a great find! John Robles On Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:00 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Obviously he bought the stuff from John. On Mar 8, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Someone named Marc has this same story on the Talking Machine forum. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org mime-attachment.jpg This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime
Hi Steve She set her price. I am always hesitant about making an offer; I would rather the seller state their price and then negotiate to a deal that benefits us both. The price she quoted me was a little retailish, but not quite. What made the day was that there were 300 Diamond Discs, and among them were 9 Long Plays, one with its original sleeve; an Edison Diamond Disc advertising record from 1912; two Tuning Records; and a copy og Holiday Greetings from the Bunch at Orange! There were double copies of three of the long play records, and I put those three on eBay and they went for about $700. My friend Marc bought the machine and several records, and two Edison albums from a C-2 that were in the mix. I am left with the Diamond Disc cabinet (there's a tag on the bottom that says Recreation Cabinet - Thomas A. Edison Inc. - Orange NJ. Most of the discs are 51000 and 8 series. Many are unplayed dealer stock. All in all it was a great find! John Robles On Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:00 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Obviously he bought the stuff from John. On Mar 8, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Someone named Marc has this same story on the Talking Machine forum. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono find of a lifetime Great find John: So? I'm curious - maybe others are too as this does happen - did she set the price or did she ask for an offer? I won't pry on the $ but curious how it went. I had a slightly similar thing 30 years ago with an Amberola 1 A - where the woman asked for an offer and I gave her a fair one at the time (knowing that many of the records were common) She had no idea what she had and said that if I could increase offer by $25 I could have it. I did and I had it! Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
Much thanks, Bob. I think that Aldridge managed to confuse himself as he thought that the Berliner trademark model was actually a Zonophone. For a long time, it was just a 'name change.' Seaman didn't like the word Gramophone. The full page ad he (Aldridger) shows (of an actual Zonophone machine) is from November 1900. The trick will be to find that style ad from the Summer of 1900 or earlier. Best Allen -- In a message dated 3/29/2015 7:44:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: There is an 1898 ad shown on page 27 of Aldridge's book where the Gramophone is called a Zonophone. There is also a 1900 ad shown on page 31. This is the ad that claims that the Gramophone is obsolete and replaced with the Zonophone.
[Phono-L] PS to the Knowldenphone post
I consulted Tim Fabrizio, and he had never heard of or seen this machine before. Do you know how good it feels to have a phonograph that Tim has never heard of? :-)John Robles
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
John, The link says the photo album is private. On 4/1/2015 1:13 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoiQk54RkxuQVYxSGc5dTItSXZPdDBuaHdfR3VzIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhZWRjNTQ4Yjg0NTc0ZTZmYWI2MTZmMjViNmRkNjlkMlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0 image http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoiQk54RkxuQVYxSGc5dTItSXZPdDBuaHdfR3VzIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhZWRjNTQ4Yjg0NTc0ZTZmYWI2MTZmMjViNmRkNjlkMlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0 The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoiQk54RkxuQVYxSGc5dTItSXZPdDBuaHdfR3VzIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhZWRjNTQ4Yjg0NTc0ZTZmYWI2MTZmMjViNmRkNjlkMlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0 A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B. View on s197.photobucket.com http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoiQk54RkxuQVYxSGc5dTItSXZPdDBuaHdfR3VzIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhZWRjNTQ4Yjg0NTc0ZTZmYWI2MTZmMjViNmRkNjlkMlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
Sorry, it's set to Public now.John On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 3:22 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: John, The link says the photo album is private. On 4/1/2015 1:13 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket | | | || | | | | | | The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B.| | | | View on s197.photobucket.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
Hi, I am looking for a paper ad (the first?) which shows a picture of the first Zonophone(s). (Zon-o-phone) I am guessing that this could be in Cosmopolitan, McClures, or some such source. I also assume the ad will be from 1900 - month unknown. If anyone has something like that, please let me know. Earlier Zonophone ads generally show just a Berliner model (renamed as Z). Much thanks! Allen K.
Re: [Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
My ads are a bit buried - let me knowin a week or soif you don't get what you want. best, Darrell nickja...@gmail.com Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hi, I am looking for a paper ad (the first?) which shows a picture of the first Zonophone(s). (Zon-o-phone) I am guessing that this could be in Cosmopolitan, McClures, or some such source. I also assume the ad will be from 1900 - month unknown. If anyone has something like that, please let me know. Earlier Zonophone ads generally show just a Berliner model (renamed as Z). Much thanks! Allen K.
Re: [Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
There is an 1898 ad shown on page 27 of Aldridge's book where the Gramophone is called a Zonophone. There is also a 1900 ad shown on page 31. This is the ad that claims that the Gramophone is obsolete and replaced with the Zonophone. You can read the book on my website: http://mulhollandpress.com/styled-2/styled/index.html Click on the read on the right side of the page. Bob On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hi, I am looking for a paper ad (the first?) which shows a picture of the first Zonophone(s). (Zon-o-phone) I am guessing that this could be in Cosmopolitan, McClures, or some such source. I also assume the ad will be from 1900 - month unknown. If anyone has something like that, please let me know. Earlier Zonophone ads generally show just a Berliner model (renamed as Z). Much thanks! Allen K.
Re: [Phono-L] Hexaphone Part
I think Raphael Cole is the lock expert. His contact info is at the bottom of the page. http://musicaltreasuresofmiami.com/ Steve Medved From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Hexaphone Part To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 23:12:29 + Working on yet another Hexaphone and am seeking a lock mechanism for the lower front door. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Many thanks.Bob Kolba
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
Art, The only Sylvia C that I have seen has a crank set in the vertical position, is yours like that? The Sylvia B had a key like mine. Thorens cylinder machines seem to be identical, except for the winding mechanisms and cabinets. John Robles Original message From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date:04/01/2015 8:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B. View on s197.photobucket.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcX C9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0O TBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzM GU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQU1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyx cInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXN lclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI 6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0OTBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM 2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcX C9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0O TBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzM GU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B. _View on s197.photobucket.com_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQU1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6 MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5 Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUy MEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0OTBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBk OVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEw NDFcIl19In0) Preview by Yahoo
[Phono-L] Jehovah's Witnesses portable phonograph and record
Hello, If anyone has any information on who made the portables or records and the general values please let me know. The person interested in this also wants to purchase them. thanks, Steve steve_nor...@msn.com
[Phono-L] 2015 Edison Birthday Party electrophone
Here is the link to the revised video of the 2015 Immortal Performances, Inc. Edison Birthday Party which includes demonstration of the electrophone cylinder player, a combination of an Amberola 30 motor mandrel with 1960s-1970s hi-fi equipment new styli to play cylinder records electronically. Enjoy! http://youtu.be/peZaT8SsGwo http://youtu.be/peZaT8SsGwo Jim Cartwright IMMORTAL PERFORMANCES, INC Austin's Eclectic Used Record Store Since 1971 1404 West 30th StreetAustin, Texas 78703-1402 USA (512) 478-9954E-mail: jim...@earthlink.net
[Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations...
This is a new one on me. I have seen many Blue Amberol Records with longitudinal splits and thought it was just age shrinking the celluloid over the plaster core. I won an eBay auction with 10 Blue Amberols in good shape. When they arrived, two were cleanly split over the perfectly intact plaster core. Sitting out here in California with people driving their convertibles with tops down and me in short sleeves I had given no thought to getting records from Wisconsin in February. If I win more from the same seller I have requested that he print DO NOT FREEZE on the package. Am I the only one this has happened to? Will the printing of 'do not freeze' help the USPS from repeating the problem. As a phonograph collector I must admit to my ignorance on temperatures affecting records. May all your finds be rare ones, Al Sefl
Re: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations...
This year, it might be wise to have the sellers hold onto such records until Spring; the insides of delivery trucks are propably going to freeze no matter is written on the packages. February is going to be the coldest month in Buffalo's recorded history. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:58 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations... This is a new one on me. I have seen many Blue Amberol Records with longitudinal splits and thought it was just age shrinking the celluloid over the plaster core. I won an eBay auction with 10 Blue Amberols in good shape. When they arrived, two were cleanly split over the perfectly intact plaster core. Sitting out here in California with people driving their convertibles with tops down and me in short sleeves I had given no thought to getting records from Wisconsin in February. If I win more from the same seller I have requested that he print DO NOT FREEZE on the package. Am I the only one this has happened to? Will the printing of 'do not freeze' help the USPS from repeating the problem. As a phonograph collector I must admit to my ignorance on temperatures affecting records. May all your finds be rare ones, Al Sefl ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations...
ps - When shipping cylinders, Kurt Nauck places a label warning not to even open the box for a full day after delivery. - Original Message - From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations... This year, it might be wise to have the sellers hold onto such records until Spring; the insides of delivery trucks are propably going to freeze no matter is written on the packages. February is going to be the coldest month in Buffalo's recorded history. - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:58 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations... This is a new one on me. I have seen many Blue Amberol Records with longitudinal splits and thought it was just age shrinking the celluloid over the plaster core. I won an eBay auction with 10 Blue Amberols in good shape. When they arrived, two were cleanly split over the perfectly intact plaster core. Sitting out here in California with people driving their convertibles with tops down and me in short sleeves I had given no thought to getting records from Wisconsin in February. If I win more from the same seller I have requested that he print DO NOT FREEZE on the package. Am I the only one this has happened to? Will the printing of 'do not freeze' help the USPS from repeating the problem. As a phonograph collector I must admit to my ignorance on temperatures affecting records. May all your finds be rare ones, Al Sefl ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Looking for Vic 8-4 leg details
I am trying to see if I can recreate some legs for a Victrola 8-4 that needs fresh ones. My brother-in-law does some wood-turning and has offered to help. I've forwarded some pictures of units I've found on the net, but he needs more details. Specifically, the width of the widest portion of the leg, and the height from the floor to where the legs hit the bottom of the main cabinet. Also, a nice clear closeup shot of a leg straight on would be nice also. No rush, this is a long term project for both of us, if it's even possible. If you can provide those dimensions and/or the photo, please send directly to me at da...@fairlibertyscall.com. Thanks muchly! David David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com C: 516-398-8668 www.FairLibertysCall.com
[Phono-L] 2015 Edison Birthday Party electrophone
Here is the link to the revised video of the 2015 Immortal Performances, Inc. Edison Birthday Party which includes demonstration of the electrophone cylinder player, a combination of an Amberola 30 motor mandrel with 1960s-1970s hi-fi equipment new styli to play cylinder records electronically. Enjoy! http://youtu.be/peZaT8SsGwo Jim Cartwright IMMORTAL PERFORMANCES, INC Austin's Eclectic Used Record Store Since 1971 1404 West 30th StreetAustin, Texas 78703-1402 USA (512) 478-9954E-mail: jim...@earthlink.net
Re: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations...
Brown wax records overseas are just as bad if they go in the unheated aircraft cargo pit. From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping Blue Amberols from cold locations... To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:05:28 + This is a new one on me. I have seen many Blue Amberol Records with longitudinal splits and thought it was just age shrinking the celluloid over the plaster core. I won an eBay auction with 10 Blue Amberols in good shape. When they arrived, two were cleanly split over the perfectly intact plaster core. Sitting out here in California with people driving their convertibles with tops down and me in short sleeves I had given no thought to getting records from Wisconsin in February. If I win more from the same seller I have requested that he print DO NOT FREEZE on the package. Am I the only one this has happened to? Will the printing of 'do not freeze' help the USPS from repeating the problem. As a phonograph collector I must admit to my ignorance on temperatures affecting records. May all your finds be rare ones, Al Sefl
[Phono-L] ARSC Pre-Conference Workshops 2015
The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. --- ARSC PRE-CONFERENCE WORKSHOPS 2015 --- -- From Idea to Deliverable: Planning and Executing Your Grant-Funded Project -- Your archive or library has an important collection of audio recordings, and you've come up with a project to process it. You're thinking of writing a grant to help fund the project, but you're not sure how to begin. On Wednesday, May 27, 2015, at the Westin Convention Center Hotel, Pittsburgh, PA, the ARSC Education and Training Committee is presenting a pre-conference workshop that will help you find answers to all your questions. This day-long workshop, From Idea to Deliverable: Planning and Executing Your Grant-Funded Project, can help you understand and find your way through the complicated and complex world of writing grant proposals and completing a grant- funded project. The workshop includes an afternoon tour of The MediaPreserve. Bus transportation will be provided. ARSC is offering this pre-conference workshop in a live-streaming, online version for those unable to attend the conference in person. An archived version will also be made available to all registrants, for a limited time. The workshop is approved for five Archival Recertification Credits through the Academy of Certified Archivists. Please contact them for more information. The in-person workshop is limited to 50 participants. Workshop registration is not included in the conference registration fee. The deadline for discounted, early in-person workshop registration is May 6. For more information, visit: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/pre-conf_workshop.html Please direct questions about this workshop to one of the Education and Training Committee Co-Chairs: Karen Fishman: kfish...@loc.gov or Aaron Bittel: ambit...@arts.ucla.edu -- All Hands on Deck! Audiotape Playback Workshop -- The ARSC Technical Committee presents All Hands on Deck! an audiotape playback workshop. The workshop will take place on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 1:30-3:30p.m., at The MediaPreserve, Cranberry Township, PA. Do you deal with analog reel-to-reel tape? This hands-on workshop will get you rolling on best practices related to audiotape handling, identification, and playback. A lecture on the history and principles of magnetic recording will cover the theoretical basis. A hands-on session with experienced engineers will show you how to identify and play back audio tape on the beautiful Studer decks at The MediaPreserve. New this year: Advanced techniques in our Experts' Room. A free bus from the Westin Convention Center Hotel to The MediaPreserve will depart at 12:30 p.m., sharp. A return bus will leave at 4 p.m. from The MediaPreserve. This workshop is limited to 16 participants. Workshop registration is not included in the conference registration fee. The deadline for discounted, early registration is May 6. For more information, visit: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/tc_2015_pre-conf_workshop.html Please direct questions about this workshop to Marcos Sueiro Bal: msue...@nypublicradio.org To register for the workshops and conference, visit: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/register/ The 2015 ARSC Conference, May 27-30, in Pittsburgh, PA, offers a number of learning opportunities. Please see the preliminary program details at: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/index.html The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals -- everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] ARSC Conference 2015
The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. --- 2015 ARSC CONFERENCE: PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA --- The 49th annual ARSC Conference will be held May 27-30, 2015 at the Westin Convention Center Hotel, in downtown Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The conference is hosted by the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh. The city offers many attractions including the Carnegie Science Center, Heinz History Center, Duquesne Incline, Children's Museum of Pittsburgh, National Aviary, Bayernhof Music Museum, and the Frick Art and Historical Center. Historic Kennywood amusement park is about a 35-minute drive from the hotel. For distinctive local flavor, Pittsburgh's historic Strip District, named for its narrow confines between the Allegheny River and Grant's Hill, is just one mile from the hotel. Great cultural offerings found here include the famous Saturday Farmers Market, plus intriguing ethnic and specialty shopping, and tempting local cuisine. A block of rooms has been reserved for ARSC conference attendees at a special rate of $139 (plus 14 percent tax) for a standard room with one king or two double beds, single or double occupancy. Contracted dates at the Westin are May 26 until May 30 (with Sunday departure). ARSC group rates will be honored three days prior (Memorial Day weekend) and three days after these dates, subject to availability. The deadline to make reservations at the Westin is May 5, 5:00 p.m. EDT. You are strongly encouraged to make your reservations as early as possible, since all rooms are held on a first-come, first-served basis. To reserve a room, follow the reservation instructions at: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/2015_hotel.html Register early and save! Full conference registration postmarked by May 6 is $160 for ARSC members, $185 for non-members, $75 for student members, and $85 for non-member students. Single-day registration is also available. For online registration: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/register/ For further details about the conference: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/index.html For general information about the conference, contact Brenda Nelson-Strauss, Conference Manager: bnels...@indiana.edu To discuss or arrange sponsorship, exhibits, or advertising, contact Curtis Peoples, Assistant Conference Manager: curtis.peop...@ttu.edu CONFERENCE PROGRAM ARSC is dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. Reflecting this broad mission, the upcoming conference offers talks and sessions that will appeal to both collectors and professionals. Scheduled presentations include: -- Marty Ashby: Jazz in Pittsburgh -- Bill Doggett: Billy Strayhorn: A Portrait of an Iconic Pittsburgh Native Son -- Dennis D. Rooney: Early Years and Reiner/PSO Columbia Recordings -- Russell W. Miller: The Life and Legacy of Oscar Levant -- Vincent Pelote Seth B. Winner: Revisiting the 1938 Benny Goodman Carnegie Hall Concert -- Michael Biel: The History of Early Record Sleeves -- Diane Napert: The Black Swan Label: Holdings in the Historical Sound Recordings Collection, Yale University -- Karen Hogg: Indexing and Researching the Charles K. Wolfe Audio Collection -- David Giovannoni, Rebecca Feynberg, John Levin, and Nicholas Bergh: Recent Developments in Cylinder Audio Preservation -- Dr. Peter Martland: The American Recording Industry in the Pit of the Great Depression -- New Evidence -- Philip C. Carli: Cutting Up Madame Butterfly: Recorded Band Orchestra Arrangements, 1907-1930 -- Bryan Wright: Rediscovering Ted Lewis: Rare Recordings from the Ted Lewis Museum -- Peter Alyea: The IRENE System -- Tim Brooks: Copyright Update -- Sam Brylawski: ARSC Guides the Way: Fulfilling the Recommendations of the National Recording Preservation Plan On Thursday evening, music film historian Mark Cantor is thrilled to present a program of performance clips highlighting new film discoveries and restorations, as well as films featuring musicians active on the Pittsburgh music scene. Mark is the curator of the Celluloid Improvisations Music Film Archive, one of the nation's largest collections of 16mm films that focuses on American popular music and dance. Many of the films that will be shared in the ARSC presentation have not been screened in years, if not decades. While the focus will be jazz, other genres of music -- country music and Western Swing, blues, vaudeville, jazz dance, and pop -- will also be generously represented. COLLECTORS' ROUNDTABLE For this year's Friday night Collectors' Roundtable, participants are invited to bring a crate of records they would like to sell or trade, and/or a record or two for show and tell. A phonograph will be available for playing disc recordings. There's no special theme, just plan on some fun records and interesting discussion. The preliminary conference schedule (subject to change)
Re: [Phono-L] Floating reproducer wanted for Thorens cylinder phonograph
Sorry, stupid me - I didn't look through all of your pics first ... dankj - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Floating reproducer wanted for Thorens cylinder phonograph Is it like this? : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Thorens-Reproducer-for-cylinder-phonograph-Not-Edison/121552107854 DanKj - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Floating reproducer wanted for Thorens cylinder phonograph Got them that time. It would be great if someone could at least turn up a picture of the reproducer you need. You may want to try an advert in the City of London Phono Society mag, and/or contacting British phono parts suppliers. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 11:29 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Floating reproducer wanted for Thorens cylinder phonograph The problem is fixed. I had uploaded the photos into my bucket, but NOT into the folder. The pics are not there and viewable. Thanks! John Robles On Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Floating reproducer parts needed
Does anyone have any parts to complete this Columbia floating reproducer?? I need the part that attaches to the carriage neck, the thumbscrew, sapphire and mica. But the most needed parts are the ring and thumbscrew. I added a picture of a complete one so you can see what I need. If I can complete this reproducer, I can use it on my Thorens Britannia phonograph. All assistance appreciated! http://s197.photobucket.com/user/john9ten/library/Columbia%20Reproducer Thanks! John Robles -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20150125/4ef80895/attachment.html ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
John, I did get the link to work, but I had to include the word Thorens in the address before radiophonomania to get it to work. I had to do a search for KeithWright to figure that out! Anyway, this was a very interesting site. What is shown as a Sylvia B is identical to my Sylvia C. And what is shown as a Sylvia C has the vertical crank mechanism. Who knows which is the real Sylvia C? An interesting point is that I had at one time written to the Thorens company in Switzerland and wished to know if they had any historical information regarding their early phonographs. I did get a response, but they indicated that the current company, which makes very high end turntables, had NO information regarding early Thorens machines. They seemed to be exceedingly uninterested in the historical origins of the Thorens name. Keith Wright appears to be much more knowledgeable about the Thorens machines than the Thorens company itself! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 3:19:36 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: John, That link does not work. Is there a spelling error in the link? I'd love to see what a Sylvia B looks like. Art In a message dated 4/1/2015 2:34:04 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hi Art The one I saw was on a website about the Thorens phonographs, _www.keithwright.ca/radiophonomania/tranradiophono.html_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.keithwright.ca?p=eyJzIjoiV0p6d1BHVGh4YUUxUE5URnoyM0JtUExUbzU 4IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9 cXFwvd3d3LmtlaXRod3JpZ2h0LmNhXFxcL3JhZGlvcGhvbm9tYW5pYVxcXC90cmFucmFkaW9waG9 uby5odG1sXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiODBlYjI0MmE3OGQ0NDBmNzk5M2U4NjExODgxYmViZTNcIixcInV ybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI1NjA4OTU3ODdlMTJiMzBlNTgxYzRhNzZlOTZiNmRlMWRhOGIxOTE1XCJdfSJ 9) . Keith Wright runs it and there are several pictures of Thorens cylinder phonographs there. John Robles On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Antique Phonograph List _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) wrote: John, Actually, My Sylvia C has the lateral winding key just like your Knowldenphone. You are perhaps referring to the Sylvia C shown on page 98 of the Discovering Antique Phonographs book. However, mine is identical to your new machine. I didn't know that there was a Sylvia B. Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 9:42:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) writes: Art, The only Sylvia C that I have seen has a crank set in the vertical position, is yours like that? The Sylvia B had a key like mine. Thorens cylinder machines seem to be identical, except for the winding mechanisms and cabinets. John Robles Original message From: Antique Phonograph List _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) Date:04/01/2015 8:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) writes: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcX
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
Send me a pic of your C, would you? My email address is john9...@pacbell.net.Thanks!John Robles On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 4:03 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: John,I did get the link to work, but I had to include the word Thorens in theaddress before radiophonomania to get it to work. I had to do a searchfor KeithWright to figure that out!Anyway, this was a very interesting site. What is shown as a SylviaB is identical to my Sylvia C. And what is shown as a Sylvia C hasthe vertical crank mechanism. Who knows which is the real SylviaC? An interesting point is that I had at one time written to the Thorenscompany in Switzerland and wished to know if they had any historical informationregarding their early phonographs. I did get a response, but theyindicated that the current company, which makes very high end turntables, had NOinformation regarding early Thorens machines. They seemed tobe exceedingly uninterested in the historical origins of the Thorensname. Keith Wright appears to be much more knowledgeable about the Thorensmachines than the Thorens company itself! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 3:19:36 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: John, That link does not work. Is there a spelling error in the link? I'd love to see what a Sylvia B looks like. Art In a message dated 4/1/2015 2:34:04 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hi Art The one I saw was on a website about the Thorens phonographs, www.keithwright.ca/radiophonomania/tranradiophono.html. Keith Wright runs it and there are several pictures of Thorens cylinder phonographs there. John Robles On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: John, Actually, My Sylvia C has the lateral winding key just like your Knowldenphone. You are perhaps referring to the Sylvia C shown on page 98 of the Discovering Antique Phonographs book. However, mine is identical to your new machine. I didn't know that there was a Sylvia B. Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 9:42:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Art, The only Sylvia C that I have seen has a crank set in the vertical position, is yours like that? The Sylvia B had a key like mine. Thorens cylinder machines seem to be identical, except for the winding mechanisms and cabinets. John Robles Original message From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date:04/01/2015 8:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.orgwrites: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket | | | | | | | | | | | The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B. | | | | View on s197.photobucket.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[Phono-L] Items Coming to Wayne Show!!!
Its only a few weeks off! Here is a sampling of what I will be bringing to the Wayne show!!! I've attached a few pictures below! I will also have all of my current reproducer phonograph catalogs available. There will be some great new stuff!!! Heavy-duty front mount crane $225.00 Victor Concert Taper Arm Reproducer$275.00 Flocked Nipper Bank $135.00 1000 Victor Needle Tin$150.00 Rare Q Reproducer Accessory Weight$150.00 Columbia AJ Crank $125.00 Rare Rectorphone Reproducer$159.00 Floor Crane Black $165.00 Contact me before, or possibly see it there! I'll have even more when I get there! It will be a great show. Shawn - mshawnorou...@gmail.com Michael Shawn O'Rourke 248 915 0954
[Phono-L] Motrola
Hi all, I am doing some research on the Motrola winder and would appreciate if anyone can send me a scan or photo of the box labels, particularly the one describing different spring tensions. Thanks, Mike Tucker mtuc...@exemail.com.au ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters as soon as possible as I am sure I will have to go to court soon over this. I am asking you to please help me by doing this so I do not loose the investment I made in them so I could sell them off as I needed to help support myself as my disability checks are not enough for me to live off of alone. Thank you in advance, Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867(863) 243-1011
[Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters as soon as possible as I am sure I will have to go to court soon over this. I am asking you to please help me by doing this so I do not loose the investment I made in them so I could sell them off as I needed to help support myself as my disability checks are not enough for me to live off of alone. Thank you in advance, Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867(863) 243-1011
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
On Monday, April 20, 2015 11:22 AM, Ken aka: OnATorrent onatorr...@yahoo.com wrote: Please watch the address and the spelling of North West needs to be spelled out fully as we have a few Lime Roads in the area and post master gets them mixed up. Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867 Any questions welcome and you can always reach me at 863-243-1011 again, Thanks in advance,Ken On Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:54 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: For me I have a different slant I was married for 7 years been collecting since 1963 Just got divorced and her lawyer wanted me to give her half my collection So beware of divorce lawyers Zono Rob Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
That's what I thought, Dan. My machine is a bit different from the pictured unit. The mounting for the TT looks like a flat plate and there are actually boards on each side angling inward like a horn between which the moving horn sits. I will have to remove the TT pulley if I can. It looks like someone bent the rim and I'd like to try to straighten it. I imagine the cork was to increase friction between it and the belt. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 3:10 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 I have a B80. The motor is self-contained as far as having a common iron base for everything, but it stands on the bottom of the cabinet. There are no hinges or wooden top plates or anything bolted together in L-shapes. The motor is attached to the bottom, and the turntable is mounted on a cross bar or steel plate under the top. Remove all the screws around the inside edge the top comes out in 2 pieces. The turntable can be removed - after loosening 2 screws, one screw hidden in a hole in the pulley's cork lining. However, you can take the whole mounting bar or plate off turn it over to clean the pulley or whatever you want to do. The turntable assembly shouldn't need to be disassembled, and it's best not to risk damaging the cork or losing the little ball bearing that's hiding in the bottom! There are a few pics in this thread - http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=6955 .. I can post a few more if needed DanKj edisone1 at verizon dot net - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 The earlier models had a motor that attached to the cabinet. Later B80s (and I think mine is the later type) a self contained motor. I don't see any evidence of a hinge other than what holds the top on. I will look again. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:08 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 Belt drive with the round knob on the back of the tonearm - my point of reference is the A60, which has no lid but is otherwise the same. The presence of the lid might make a difference in the way it opens up, but by the design of the motor it's important that it maintain the geometry of its mount points on the back AND the top of the cabinet. Therefore I'm pretty sure that it stays as a unit and must be opened as a unit. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: It's a Diamond Disc player. I don't see anything resembling hinges or pivots for the motor/tt. Ron -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
For me I have a different slant I just went through a divorce and her attorney want me to give her half of my collection for a seven year marriage. I have collected since 1963 So beware of divorces too Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters as soon as possible as I am sure I will have to go to court soon over this. I am asking you to please help me by doing this so I do not loose the investment I made in them so I could sell them
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Rob, and everyone else, Yes, stamped and mailed is the best since they have no way to say I faked it. Ken On Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:54 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: For me I have a different slant I was married for 7 years been collecting since 1963 Just got divorced and her lawyer wanted me to give her half my collection So beware of divorce lawyers Zono Rob Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
For me I have a different slant I was married for 7 years been collecting since 1963 Just got divorced and her lawyer wanted me to give her half my collection So beware of divorce lawyers Zono Rob Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters as soon as possible as I am sure I will have to go to court soon over this. I am asking you to please help me by doing this so I do not loose the investment I made in them so I could sell them off as I
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters as soon as possible as I am sure I will have to go to court soon over this. I am asking you to please help me by doing this so I do not loose the investment I made in them so I could sell them off as I needed to help support myself as my disability checks are not enough for me to live off of alone. Thank you in advance, Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867(863) 243-1011 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
Ken- I will write a letter for you but since I don't know exactly what you have, let us know. This way each person could document a few things and between all of us everything would be covered. Have you considered moving the most wanted items off site ? Charlie. -- On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 8:51 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2015 11:22 AM, Ken aka: OnATorrent onatorr...@yahoo.com wrote: Please watch the address and the spelling of North West needs to be spelled out fully as we have a few Lime Roads in the area and post master gets them mixed up. Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867 Any questions welcome and you can always reach me at 863-243-1011 again, Thanks in advance,Ken On Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:54 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: For me I have a different slant I was married for 7 years been collecting since 1963 Just got divorced and her lawyer wanted me to give her half my collection So beware of divorce lawyers Zono Rob Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
Hello, as everyone should know by now I am in a very hard situation and I have to sell off one of my phonographs to get out and save my collection and get out of my mothers home by the 30th of April. I have detailed photos of the machine and can forward them to anyone interested. I need to get as much money as I can and it has to be a quick sale. The machine is as follows. Edison Maroon Gem model D.All original with original 2pc fireside horn and original horn crane.It has a model K reproducer and if you could do this as a paypal transaction would be best. Wanted to post it here before Ebay to make sure it goes to someone that would care for the machine as I have for the past 12 years. I am sure Rob and Joan can speak up for me that I have quality machines. I need need as much as I can get for it and I hope no one would take advantage of my situation to get a quality machine and under cut me in value. If interested please send me your email address so I can forward the photo's to you. Time means everything in this situation as I have to be out 0f my mother's home before the 30th 0f April or I loose everything I own. Please respond quickly so I can get the photo's to you asap. The base has a slight warp to it but has been secured with 4 small washers to level out the machine and the lid has a very good job at veneer repair and looks good as the pictures will show. I need as much as I can get for this machine so I can move and not loose everything I own.Kenneth Keetonemail: onatorr...@yahoo.com please contact me privately through my email and I will return with complete photo's.thanks much,Kenneth PS the machine is timed and ready to play right out of the box. On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:42 AM, Ken aka: OnATorrent onatorr...@yahoo.com wrote: On Monday, April 20, 2015 11:22 AM, Ken aka: OnATorrent onatorr...@yahoo.com wrote: Please watch the address and the spelling of North West needs to be spelled out fully as we have a few Lime Roads in the area and post master gets them mixed up. Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867 Any questions welcome and you can always reach me at 863-243-1011 again, Thanks in advance,Ken On Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:54 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: For me I have a different slant I was married for 7 years been collecting since 1963 Just got divorced and her lawyer wanted me to give her half my collection So beware of divorce lawyers Zono Rob Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Men- I don't know Ken, but do write here occasionally and value each of you when things are discussed. I always find new insight from fellow collectors. If Ken could write me / us here, and mention whatever machines he is afraid will be confiscated, knowing which ones I could then write a letter stating in correspondence that I know he has and owns. It's very unfortunate The System will use it's leviathan powers to vacuum up anything and everything it can to justify it's existence. While we are sleeping they are encroaching in areas they shouldn't be- namely confiscating things they have no proof of someone owning. If I can help Ken in any way such as this I will. Even if these items were his Moms , and they aren't in this case, who is the state to be the judge and take everything if Ken is a Son and should get them? Something for all of us to ponder regarding our collections ! Charlie. -- On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 6:36 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: I will certainly write one Ken. As for others on this board who may not know Kenneth, I have known him for probably 10 to 12 years, having met on a phonograph collecting forum in the past. He has had some fine machines and has been collecting for quite some time. He suffers from a serious disease and has faced prejudice for it, even from his own family. I think those if us who know him need to rally to his defense here and help him protect his property from the assisted living facility that cared for his mother. Those places will swoop in and take whatever they can get to recoup their exorbitant fees.I'll mail mine out first thing tomorrow, Ken (I am assuming you'd rather have something on paper, stamped and mailed to you so they can see that the letters are coming from different parts of the country and were not just whipped up on the computer by you).I'm so sorry for the loss of your mother, and if there is anything else I can do, you know you can just ask me.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
After cleaning the cork on both pulleys (I think I used lighter fluid) I painted them with a thin layer of rubber cement let that dry a few days. With a cleaned, original belt, it never slips, even after over 20 years! DanKj - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 That's what I thought, Dan. My machine is a bit different from the pictured unit. The mounting for the TT looks like a flat plate and there are actually boards on each side angling inward like a horn between which the moving horn sits. I will have to remove the TT pulley if I can. It looks like someone bent the rim and I'd like to try to straighten it. I imagine the cork was to increase friction between it and the belt. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 3:10 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 I have a B80. The motor is self-contained as far as having a common iron base for everything, but it stands on the bottom of the cabinet. There are no hinges or wooden top plates or anything bolted together in L-shapes. The motor is attached to the bottom, and the turntable is mounted on a cross bar or steel plate under the top. Remove all the screws around the inside edge the top comes out in 2 pieces. The turntable can be removed - after loosening 2 screws, one screw hidden in a hole in the pulley's cork lining. However, you can take the whole mounting bar or plate off turn it over to clean the pulley or whatever you want to do. The turntable assembly shouldn't need to be disassembled, and it's best not to risk damaging the cork or losing the little ball bearing that's hiding in the bottom! There are a few pics in this thread - http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=6955 .. I can post a few more if needed DanKj edisone1 at verizon dot net - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 The earlier models had a motor that attached to the cabinet. Later B80s (and I think mine is the later type) a self contained motor. I don't see any evidence of a hinge other than what holds the top on. I will look again. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:08 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 Belt drive with the round knob on the back of the tonearm - my point of reference is the A60, which has no lid but is otherwise the same. The presence of the lid might make a difference in the way it opens up, but by the design of the motor it's important that it maintain the geometry of its mount points on the back AND the top of the cabinet. Therefore I'm pretty sure that it stays as a unit and must be opened as a unit. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: It's a Diamond Disc player. I don't see anything resembling hinges or pivots for the motor/tt. Ron -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
I've even used rubber cement on a metal pulley! It's a great tip/trick. Thanks, Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 3:13 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 After cleaning the cork on both pulleys (I think I used lighter fluid) I painted them with a thin layer of rubber cement let that dry a few days. With a cleaned, original belt, it never slips, even after over 20 years! DanKj - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 That's what I thought, Dan. My machine is a bit different from the pictured unit. The mounting for the TT looks like a flat plate and there are actually boards on each side angling inward like a horn between which the moving horn sits. I will have to remove the TT pulley if I can. It looks like someone bent the rim and I'd like to try to straighten it. I imagine the cork was to increase friction between it and the belt. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 3:10 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 I have a B80. The motor is self-contained as far as having a common iron base for everything, but it stands on the bottom of the cabinet. There are no hinges or wooden top plates or anything bolted together in L-shapes. The motor is attached to the bottom, and the turntable is mounted on a cross bar or steel plate under the top. Remove all the screws around the inside edge the top comes out in 2 pieces. The turntable can be removed - after loosening 2 screws, one screw hidden in a hole in the pulley's cork lining. However, you can take the whole mounting bar or plate off turn it over to clean the pulley or whatever you want to do. The turntable assembly shouldn't need to be disassembled, and it's best not to risk damaging the cork or losing the little ball bearing that's hiding in the bottom! There are a few pics in this thread - http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=6955 .. I can post a few more if needed DanKj edisone1 at verizon dot net - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 The earlier models had a motor that attached to the cabinet. Later B80s (and I think mine is the later type) a self contained motor. I don't see any evidence of a hinge other than what holds the top on. I will look again. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:08 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 Belt drive with the round knob on the back of the tonearm - my point of reference is the A60, which has no lid but is otherwise the same. The presence of the lid might make a difference in the way it opens up, but by the design of the motor it's important that it maintain the geometry of its mount points on the back AND the top of the cabinet. Therefore I'm pretty sure that it stays as a unit and must be opened as a unit. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: It's a Diamond Disc player. I don't see anything resembling hinges or pivots for the motor/tt. Ron -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
I have a B80. The motor is self-contained as far as having a common iron base for everything, but it stands on the bottom of the cabinet. There are no hinges or wooden top plates or anything bolted together in L-shapes. The motor is attached to the bottom, and the turntable is mounted on a cross bar or steel plate under the top. Remove all the screws around the inside edge the top comes out in 2 pieces. The turntable can be removed - after loosening 2 screws, one screw hidden in a hole in the pulley's cork lining. However, you can take the whole mounting bar or plate off turn it over to clean the pulley or whatever you want to do. The turntable assembly shouldn't need to be disassembled, and it's best not to risk damaging the cork or losing the little ball bearing that's hiding in the bottom! There are a few pics in this thread - http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=6955 .. I can post a few more if needed DanKj edisone1 at verizon dot net - Original Message - From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 The earlier models had a motor that attached to the cabinet. Later B80s (and I think mine is the later type) a self contained motor. I don't see any evidence of a hinge other than what holds the top on. I will look again. Ron L -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:08 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 Belt drive with the round knob on the back of the tonearm - my point of reference is the A60, which has no lid but is otherwise the same. The presence of the lid might make a difference in the way it opens up, but by the design of the motor it's important that it maintain the geometry of its mount points on the back AND the top of the cabinet. Therefore I'm pretty sure that it stays as a unit and must be opened as a unit. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: It's a Diamond Disc player. I don't see anything resembling hinges or pivots for the motor/tt. Ron -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison B-80
I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
I should be more clear: the top wooden plate and the back of the cabinet are bolted together in an L shape, and there are hinges at the bottom of the back of the cabinet at the level of the table top. That is where it hinges up and backwards. I would strongly warn you against attempting to detach the turntable. Cleaning in place and re-lubricating, rather than disassembly, is always the preferred route. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
Belt drive with the round knob on the back of the tonearm - my point of reference is the A60, which has no lid but is otherwise the same. The presence of the lid might make a difference in the way it opens up, but by the design of the motor it's important that it maintain the geometry of its mount points on the back AND the top of the cabinet. Therefore I'm pretty sure that it stays as a unit and must be opened as a unit. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: It's a Diamond Disc player. I don't see anything resembling hinges or pivots for the motor/tt. Ron -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80
It's a Diamond Disc player. I don't see anything resembling hinges or pivots for the motor/tt. Ron -Original Message- From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison B-80 You unbolt the top and the whole thing hinges back and up. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: I decided to take the plunge and bought an Edison B-80 tabletop machine at the Wayne parking lot sale this year. It works but the motor and interior cabinet are pretty cruddy looking. There's lots of little paint chips from the horn. I want to take it all apart and clean/relubricate it, except for the spring which seems to work without rumble.Sooo, is there anything I should look out for/be careful of in particular? It does not look like the TT lifts off. I think I'll just take that whole top plate off with the TT as a unit to start with. Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 58
The reason the high bidder is also the 2nd highest bidder is because the reserve was $4000 and the highest previous bid was $3500(ish). Either way, it's too much money for a Vic V... mahogany or not... Don From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 58 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 19:07:48 + Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to phono-l@oldcrank.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org You can reach the person managing the list at phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Phono-L digest... If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: [phonolist] re RARE Victor V (The Fifth) Mahogany (Antique Phonograph List) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:55:37 -0400 From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com, 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] re RARE Victor V (The Fifth) Mahogany Message-ID: mailman.124.1430156245.137.phon...@oldcrank.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Something is really wrong here. Look at the bidding. The winning bidder is also the second highest bidder, which shouldn?t have happened ? the bid at $3,500 was sufficient. And that second highest bid didn?t need to be that high ? it only needed to be slightly higher than $2,000 ? I think the bidding increment is $100 at that level. Something is very, very peculiar! Merle From: phonol...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:phonol...@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 3:00 AM To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [phonolist] re RARE Victor V (The Fifth) Mahogany Nice to see the hobby still commands high dollar! On Monday, April 20, 2015 7:21 AM, Mario Frazzetto ma...@frazzetto.me mailto:ma...@frazzetto.me [phonolist] phonol...@yahoogroups.com mailto:phonol...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi All, Just in case you missed it. I recently picked up an exceptionally rare Victor The Fifth in Mahogany. As it doesn?t fit in with my collection I have put it up on eBay for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/121628184103? Cheers, Mario __._,_.___ _ Posted by: Scott Scheidt s-sche...@sbcglobal.net mailto:s-sche...@sbcglobal.net _ https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/conversations/messages/40191;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbG42OXIwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBG1zZ0lkAzQwMTkxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NA--?act=replymessageNum=40191 Reply via web post ? mailto:s-sche...@sbcglobal.net?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bphonolist%5D%20re%20RARE%20Victor%20V%20%28The%20Fifth%29%20Mahogany Reply to sender ? mailto:phonol...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bphonolist%5D%20re%20RARE%20Victor%20V%20%28The%20Fifth%29%20Mahogany Reply to group ? https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGs0aWE4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NA-- Start a New Topic ? https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/conversations/topics/40188;_ylc=X3oDMTM2bWFwbm01BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBG1zZ0lkAzQwMTkxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NAR0cGNJZAM0MDE4OA-- Messages in this topic (2) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJla2xtamp2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NA-- Visit Your Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcTVnMjA3BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDMwMDMxNzk0 ? https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html Privacy ? mailto:phonolist-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe Unsubscribe ? https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ Terms of Use . http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=1221313/grpspId=1705062282/msgId=40191/stime=1430031794 http://y.analytics.yahoo.com/fpc.pl?ywarid=515FB27823A7407Ea=10001310322279js=noresp=img __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20150427/df2a961e/attachment-0001.html -- ___ Phono-L
Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] re RARE Victor V (The Fifth)
Something is really wrong here. Look at the bidding. The winning bidder is also the second highest bidder, which shouldn?t have happened ? the bid at $3,500 was sufficient. And that second highest bid didn?t need to be that high ? it only needed to be slightly higher than $2,000 ? I think the bidding increment is $100 at that level. Something is very, very peculiar! Merle Everything is correct. The reserve price was $4000. The winning bidder didn't meet the reserve with his first bid of $3500. He finally won the item with a bid of $4000 or higher. The second bidder couldn't compete with his bid of $2000. In an auction without reserve price the Victor V would have sold for a little over $2000. Well done, Mario. Stephan
Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 58
- Original Message - The reason the high bidder is also the 2nd highest bidder is because the reserve was $4000 and the highest previous bid was $3500(ish). Either way, it's too much money for a Vic V... mahogany or not... Don Not to that particular bidder (and I know who it is ) One cannot say how much is too much for anyone but himself. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] re RARE Victor V (The Fifth) Mahogany
Something is really wrong here. Look at the bidding. The winning bidder is also the second highest bidder, which shouldn’t have happened – the bid at $3,500 was sufficient. And that second highest bid didn’t need to be that high – it only needed to be slightly higher than $2,000 – I think the bidding increment is $100 at that level. Something is very, very peculiar! Merle From: phonol...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:phonol...@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 3:00 AM To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [phonolist] re RARE Victor V (The Fifth) Mahogany Nice to see the hobby still commands high dollar! On Monday, April 20, 2015 7:21 AM, Mario Frazzetto ma...@frazzetto.me mailto:ma...@frazzetto.me [phonolist] phonol...@yahoogroups.com mailto:phonol...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi All, Just in case you missed it. I recently picked up an exceptionally rare Victor The Fifth in Mahogany. As it doesn’t fit in with my collection I have put it up on eBay for sale. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/121628184103? Cheers, Mario __._,_.___ _ Posted by: Scott Scheidt s-sche...@sbcglobal.net mailto:s-sche...@sbcglobal.net _ https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/conversations/messages/40191;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbG42OXIwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBG1zZ0lkAzQwMTkxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NA--?act=replymessageNum=40191 Reply via web post • mailto:s-sche...@sbcglobal.net?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bphonolist%5D%20re%20RARE%20Victor%20V%20%28The%20Fifth%29%20Mahogany Reply to sender • mailto:phonol...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bphonolist%5D%20re%20RARE%20Victor%20V%20%28The%20Fifth%29%20Mahogany Reply to group • https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGs0aWE4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NA-- Start a New Topic • https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/conversations/topics/40188;_ylc=X3oDMTM2bWFwbm01BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBG1zZ0lkAzQwMTkxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NAR0cGNJZAM0MDE4OA-- Messages in this topic (2) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/phonolist/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJla2xtamp2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQzMDAzMTc5NA-- Visit Your Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcTVnMjA3BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEyMjEzMTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYyMjgyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDMwMDMxNzk0 • https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html Privacy • mailto:phonolist-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe Unsubscribe • https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ Terms of Use . http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=1221313/grpspId=1705062282/msgId=40191/stime=1430031794 http://y.analytics.yahoo.com/fpc.pl?ywarid=515FB27823A7407Ea=10001310322279js=noresp=img __,_._,___
[Phono-L] ARSC Conference 2015 -- Final Reminder
The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. --- 2015 ARSC CONFERENCE: OVERFLOW HOTEL INFO --- --- EARLY-REGISTRATION DEADLINE APPROACHING: MAY 6 --- The 49th annual ARSC Conference will be held May 27-30, 2015 at the Westin Convention Center Hotel, in downtown Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The conference is hosted by the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh. Our room block at the Westin Convention Center Hotel is sold out, though there may be single rooms available for non-peak nights. We have arranged for overflow rooms at the DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Suites Pittsburgh Downtown, located at One Bigelow Square, an eight-minute walk from the Westin. In order to get the special group rate, make your reservation by May 12. For more information about the DoubleTree: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/pdf/2015_overflow_hotel.pdf If you experience any difficulties making reservations, contact Brenda Nelson-Strauss, ARSC Conference Manager: bnels...@indiana.edu. May 6 is the deadline for discounted rates for conference registration and the two pre-conference workshops, From Idea to Deliverable: Planning and Executing Your Grant-Funded Project and All Hands on Deck! Audiotape Playback Workshop. To qualify for the discounted prices, your registration must be postmarked or submitted online by May 6. After that date, registration fees increase. For online registration: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/register/ To register for the Webcast of From Idea to Deliverable: Planning and Executing Your Grant-Funded Project: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/register/online-workshop.php Be sure to check out the recently added conference abstracts and the updated preliminary schedule: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2015/index.html The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals -- everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] playing Edison's doll records and Woody Guthrie recordings
Resurrecting the voices of Edison’s dolls—and unknown recordings of Woody Guthrie http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/science/thomas-edison-talking-dolls-recordings.html?_r=0
[Phono-L] FOR SALE COMING TO UNION SHOW
Folks, We're less than four weeks away from the Union show. Here are a few of the items I will be bringing! Table-Top Version of the *Brooks Repeating Phonograph*. This is the only known example of a table-top Brooks Repeating phonograph. It is stunningly beautiful, completely original, and works flawlessly. A very rare bird, indeed. *Rectorphone*. This is another rare bird. The Rectorphone, created in 1906 by Enoch Rector, was intended to be powered by a treadle sewing machine. However, it ended up being a very simple phonograph with a spring motor. Very seldom found today, this machine works wonderfully! Original *Columbia Crank *for an AJ, AK, A, and possibly other Columbia machines. Super nice example of an early *Berliner Record* by the Metropolitan Quartette. Early *Seven Inch Record Carrying Case*. Nice, hard to find, and great for your Berliner, Victor and Columbia records. Super nice example of a *1000 Needle Victor Needle Tin*. A great example black with gold lettering in very, very good condition. Of course, I'll have all of my paper reprints there as well. Pictures can be made available to those who have serious interest. If you have questions, do not hesitate to contact me directly at mshawnorou...@gmail.com Thank you Shawn O’Rourke -- Shawn O'Rourke (248) 915 0954
[Phono-L] Paramount 78 wanted
Phono Listers: I am looking for a Paramount 78 copy of Blind Lemon Jefferson Match Box if anyone has one to part with. Contact me here or off line if workable: maff...@bresnan.net Thanks Bob
Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil Phonograph
No need to ask permission. For sale items are always welcome on Phono-L. Loran On May 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Loran- Asking permission to sell my 1878 Scientific-American replica tinfoil phonograph on the site.I periodically make these. I need $285.00 plus shipping for this one. Contact info is: c.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net Thanks,Charlie. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil Phonograph
Thanks Loran, I appreciate it. Charlie. -- On Sun, May 17, 2015 10:38 AM PDT Antique Phonograph List wrote: No need to ask permission. For sale items are always welcome on Phono-L. Loran On May 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Loran- Asking permission to sell my 1878 Scientific-American replica tinfoil phonograph on the site.I periodically make these. I need $285.00 plus shipping for this one. Contact info is: c.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net Thanks,Charlie. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] MORE ITEMS COMMING TO UNION!
Folks, Here are some more items that I've found to bring to Union. I had to dig deep, and there are some wonderful items here! Original Victor V Instruction Manual. Here is your chance to own an original instruction manual for your Victor V. This one is in very nice condition. 14 pages, solid binding, minor wear. Wonderful original piece of literature. Absolutely Stunning and desirable Decorated Amberola 30 and Matching Simplex Cabinet. This is super high quality item. The earliest Amberol 30's were different in several ways. One of the most stunning is the pen striping on the bedplate and governor cover. This one is nearly perfect. No veneer issues, super paint and pen striping. All original. Even better, it comes with the matching Amberola 30 Simplex cabinet. Again, all original and NICE! A super cool set up. I'll bring the Amberola 30 and Cabinet only (no records) to be sold as a pair only. Hard to findTrue Tone Diaphragm for an after market installation meant to improve the sound of your model C, H, or K. It can be used on others as well. Seldom found, and a great way to dress up your reproducer. Berliner Record Bonanza! 10 (TEN) 1896 Berliner Records will be coming to Union. All in E condition, without playing issues. 1896 Berliners represent some of the earliest forms of recorded music available today. 5 Early Monarch Records Nice, hard to find, these 10 inch Monarchs play well and are all early pre-dog of dog labels. Super tunes. Hard to find Edison Grand Opera Record Edison's 2-minute Opera record! l' Air Des FLuers De Seible. by Faust. This one is in stunning condition, plays through without issue in the original box. Very rare Expiramental Edison Automatic Reproducer. This one may even be for a coin-op machine. It is early, highly unusual, factory quality made Edison experimental reproducer. Of course, I'll have all of my paper reprints there as well. I've can provide pictures for those with serious interest. If you have questions, do not hesitate to contact me at mshawnorou...@gmail.com Thank you Shawn Michael Shawn O'Rourke 248 915 0954
Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil Phonograph
Attached photos came through, too. Is that new? I seem to recall that it didn't do that before. Glad to see it, in any case. Sent from my iPad -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 17, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: No need to ask permission. For sale items are always welcome on Phono-L. Loran On May 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Loran- Asking permission to sell my 1878 Scientific-American replica tinfoil phonograph on the site.I periodically make these. I need $285.00 plus shipping for this one. Contact info is: c.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net Thanks,Charlie. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Tinfoil Phonograph
Yes, it is. :) Loran On May 17, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Attached photos came through, too. Is that new? I seem to recall that it didn't do that before. Glad to see it, in any case. Sent from my iPad -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On May 17, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: No need to ask permission. For sale items are always welcome on Phono-L. Loran On May 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Hi Loran- Asking permission to sell my 1878 Scientific-American replica tinfoil phonograph on the site.I periodically make these. I need $285.00 plus shipping for this one. Contact info is: c.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net Thanks,Charlie. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
Did you find what you needed? best, Darrell nickja...@gmail.com Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hi, I am looking for a paper ad (the first?) which shows a picture of the first Zonophone(s). (Zon-o-phone) I am guessing that this could be in Cosmopolitan, McClures, or some such source. I also assume the ad will be from 1900 - month unknown. If anyone has something like that, please let me know. Earlier Zonophone ads generally show just a Berliner model (renamed as Z). Much thanks! Allen K.
Re: [Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
Hi Darrell, Well in some ways, more than I needed. There will be a lot of good info in the June 2015 issue of AP. But if you do come across any Zonophone ads from Cosmo or McClures (half/full page) from May to Sept. 1900, that would be helpful (if they contain an image). Allen - In a message dated 4/9/2015 2:41:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Did you find what you needed?
Re: [Phono-L] First Zono ad showing the machine itself
August 1895 Century magazine had a two-page ad with testimonials from nine LARGE companies re: Seaman's advertising genius. June 1896 has him as Proprietor, Natl Gram Nov 1896 - no Seaman March 1898 Zon-o-phone (Improved Gramophone) August 1898 Improved Gram-o-phone (Zon-o-phone) All as Nat'l Gram w/ Berliner machine Several from Nov-Dec 1900 with the same Zono pic but differing text. Send me your real address and I'll send scans if you want. best, Darrell === Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hi Darrell, Well in some ways, more than I needed. There will be a lot of good info in the June 2015 issue of AP. But if you do come across any Zonophone ads from Cosmo or McClures (half/full page) from May to Sept. 1900, that would be helpful (if they contain an image). Allen - In a message dated 4/9/2015 2:41:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Did you find what you needed?
[Phono-L] VV-IX, misc. Edison parts for sale, bringing to Wayne
Reminder for those coming to the Wayne show on Sunday. I'm making room for a new (to me!) phonograph. So I'm making this nice VV-IX available for sale for $225 (cash). It was my first real Victrola, I always liked it. Looks decent, sounds decent. With a solid Exhibition soundbox. Pictures and audio files at this link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xi62l7mn9283cmx/AADu_tlx-c0G0VXBDtSpoUIqa?dl=0 I'll be bringing it with me to the Wayne show, Sunday April 19th. I will also bring some useful Edison parts if you're looking. Pictures at this link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cwtv6kkivbsoley/AABtQ5B2iZZ0k6zHtMqkHOV9a?dl=0 Contact me if you're interested. David David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com C: 516-398-8668 www.FairLibertysCall.com
Re: [Phono-L] Items Coming to Wayne Show!!!
Might be a little too late in asking: Looking for a tone arm with back bracket for VV-VIII #56352E. Victor Data Book says taper, overhang support, indented tube. Back bracket is 2 1/2 inches from hole to hole, about 3 1/4 inches wide and hole in board is 1 3/8 inches in diameter. I guesstimate about 7 1/2 inches from bracket center to the end of the tone arm. Measures 8 1/2 inches from back bracket center to spindle. This has the earlier motor with 1 inch springs. See you all on Sunday Aaron Hunter ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Items Coming to Wayne Show!!!
Not attending show, but i should have one if you do not find it there. Contact me at email shown below. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com On 4/17/2015 6:06 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Might be a little too late in asking: Looking for a tone arm with back bracket for VV-VIII #56352E. Victor Data Book says taper, overhang support, indented tube. Back bracket is 2 1/2 inches from hole to hole, about 3 1/4 inches wide and hole in board is 1 3/8 inches in diameter. I guesstimate about 7 1/2 inches from bracket center to the end of the tone arm. Measures 8 1/2 inches from back bracket center to spindle. This has the earlier motor with 1 inch springs. See you all on Sunday Aaron Hunter ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] VV-IX, misc. Edison parts for sale, bringing to Wayne
I'm making room for a new (to me!) phonograph. So I'm making this nice VV-IX available for sale for $225 (cash). It was my first real Victrola, I always liked it. Looks decent, sounds decent. With a solid Exhibition soundbox. Pictures and audio files at this link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xi62l7mn9283cmx/AADu_tlx-c0G0VXBDtSpoUIqa?dl=0 I'll be bringing it with me to the Wayne show, Sunday April 19th. I will also bring some useful Edison parts if you're looking. Pictures at this link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cwtv6kkivbsoley/AABtQ5B2iZZ0k6zHtMqkHOV9a?dl=0 Contact me if you're interested. David David Barnett da...@fairlibertyscall.com C: 516-398-8668 www.FairLibertysCall.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Three New Reprints - KALAMAZOO DUPLEX
This week I have three new and exciting reprinted catalogs to introduce. I have only ever seen one original of each of these three catalogs, the ones that I made the reprint from. Kalamazoo Duplex Catalog - The Duplex $20.00 - Large (7” by 7”) 20 pages long, filled with pictures and descriptions of their one and only product - The Kalamazoo Duplex. KALAMAZOO DUPLEX RECORDS - $10.00 - Approximately 5 ¾ wide by 3 ⅜ inches tall. It is a whopping 24 pages long, filled with all of the Duplex records available - Who knew there were so many when they are so hard to find today!!! Duplex Doubters Catalog – $10.00 - It is a wonderful 28 page catalog with testimonies (including the Mayor of Kalamazoo)about the Kalamazoo Duplex It is a great size, approximately 6 ¼ tall by 3 ⅛ inches wide. All catalogs are faithfully reproduced from the originals. They are high-quality. All are marked as reproductions so as not to be confused with the original. I have over 50 reprints of catalogs in my current inventory. All prices plus shipping to you. No PayPal on this, but checks are fine. Please contact me with interest at: mshawnorou...@gmail.com Michael Shawn O'Rourke 248 915 0954
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
John, That link does not work. Is there a spelling error in the link? I'd love to see what a Sylvia B looks like. Art In a message dated 4/1/2015 2:34:04 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hi Art The one I saw was on a website about the Thorens phonographs, _www.keithwright.ca/radiophonomania/tranradiophono.html_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.keithwright.ca?p=eyJzIjoiV0p6d1BHVGh4YUUxUE5URnoyM0JtUExUbzU 4IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9 cXFwvd3d3LmtlaXRod3JpZ2h0LmNhXFxcL3JhZGlvcGhvbm9tYW5pYVxcXC90cmFucmFkaW9waG9 uby5odG1sXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiODBlYjI0MmE3OGQ0NDBmNzk5M2U4NjExODgxYmViZTNcIixcInV ybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI1NjA4OTU3ODdlMTJiMzBlNTgxYzRhNzZlOTZiNmRlMWRhOGIxOTE1XCJdfSJ 9) . Keith Wright runs it and there are several pictures of Thorens cylinder phonographs there. John Robles On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Antique Phonograph List _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) wrote: John, Actually, My Sylvia C has the lateral winding key just like your Knowldenphone. You are perhaps referring to the Sylvia C shown on page 98 of the Discovering Antique Phonographs book. However, mine is identical to your new machine. I didn't know that there was a Sylvia B. Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 9:42:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) writes: Art, The only Sylvia C that I have seen has a crank set in the vertical position, is yours like that? The Sylvia B had a key like mine. Thorens cylinder machines seem to be identical, except for the winding mechanisms and cabinets. John Robles Original message From: Antique Phonograph List _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) Date:04/01/2015 8:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, _phono-l@oldcrank.org_ (mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org) writes: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1 Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0O TBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzM GU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQU1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyx cInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXN lclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI 6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0OTBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM 2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcX C9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0O
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
John, Actually, My Sylvia C has the lateral winding key just like your Knowldenphone. You are perhaps referring to the Sylvia C shown on page 98 of the Discovering Antique Phonographs book. However, mine is identical to your new machine. I didn't know that there was a Sylvia B. Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 9:42:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Art, The only Sylvia C that I have seen has a crank set in the vertical position, is yours like that? The Sylvia B had a key like mine. Thorens cylinder machines seem to be identical, except for the winding mechanisms and cabinets. John Robles Original message From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date:04/01/2015 8:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcX C9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0O TBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzM GU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQU1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyx cInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXN lclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI 6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0OTBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM 2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) _The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQ U1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6X CJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcX C9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUyMEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0O TBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBkOVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzM GU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEwNDFcIl19In0) A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B. _View on s197.photobucket.com_ (http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/s197.photobucket.com?p=eyJzIjoibWFLZk1mLTQxUXZZYXlEQU1MeFNSeXVlNmhrIiwidiI6 MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvczE5 Ny5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb21cXFwvdXNlclxcXC9qb2huOXRlblxcXC9saWJyYXJ5XFxcL1RoZSUy MEtub3dsZGVucGhvbmVcIixcImlkXCI6XCJhOTg3NjBjMTc3NWY0OTBlODEyMWRjMjY5NDVlYTBk OVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImU3MWM2YWY0Y2U3NjJiZWRjNGQzMGU5YTk2ZjNhMzIyOGQyYzEw NDFcIl19In0) Preview by Yahoo
Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph
Hi Art The one I saw was on a website about the Thorens phonographs, www.keithwright.ca/radiophonomania/tranradiophono.html. Keith Wright runs it and there are several pictures of Thorens cylinder phonographs there. John Robles On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: John, Actually, My Sylvia C has the lateral winding key just like your Knowldenphone. You are perhaps referring to the Sylvia C shown on page 98 of the Discovering Antique Phonographs book. However, mine is identical to your new machine. I didn't know that there was a Sylvia B. Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 9:42:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Art, The only Sylvia C that I have seen has a crank set in the vertical position, is yours like that? The Sylvia B had a key like mine. Thorens cylinder machines seem to be identical, except for the winding mechanisms and cabinets. John Robles Original message From: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date:04/01/2015 8:06 AM (GMT-08:00) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yet another unusual British-marketed Thorens phonograph John, I have a Sylvia C machine which is an exact replica of your Knowldenphone except for the lettering on the case. That is the only place that identifying marks appear on the machine. I would expect that all these machines were exported to England by Thorens to various resellers and the difference in identification simply represented the name the retail shop assigned to the machine. They are all very pretty machines with the full nickel plating that they all seem to have (although your nickel plating seem to have stood up a bit better than mine). I bought my machine about 15 years ago and only because my mother's name was Sylvia C. Good job placing those machines together! Art Heller In a message dated 4/1/2015 12:21:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes: Hello all I have succeeded in purchasing yet another Thorens-built cylinder phonograph that was marketed in Britain. You may remember the photos I uploaded recently of the Britannia Type A. The second Thorens that has come to me is called The Knowldenphone and is another Thorens product. This one is a single spring phonograph, and unlike the Britannia, it came with its original reproducer. It has a spun aluminum horn too. When the box arrived my heart stpped, as it was pretty bashed in. The seller also did not pack it well, so I was sure it was broken, but as luck would have it, it survived the voyage from England in fine shape. Here is a link to the photos. I tested it and it should work fine. John Robles The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket The Knowldenphone Photos by john9ten on Photobucket A Thorens-built cylinder phonograph marketed in England. WHen marketed directly by Thorens, it was called the Sylvia B. View on s197.photobucket.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [Phono-L] Items Coming to Wayne Show!!!
I'll be looking for a tone arm for a Standard X and have a slightly longer (original I think) arm for sale/trade. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 5:38 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Items Coming to Wayne Show!!! Its only a few weeks off! Here is a sampling of what I will be bringing to the Wayne show!!! I've attached a few pictures below! I will also have all of my current reproducer phonograph catalogs available. There will be some great new stuff!!! Heavy-duty front mount crane $225.00 Victor Concert Taper Arm Reproducer$275.00 Flocked Nipper Bank $135.00 1000 Victor Needle Tin$150.00 Rare Q Reproducer Accessory Weight$150.00 Columbia AJ Crank $125.00 Rare Rectorphone Reproducer$159.00 Floor Crane Black $165.00 Contact me before, or possibly see it there! I'll have even more when I get there! It will be a great show. Shawn - mshawnorou...@gmail.com Michael Shawn O'Rourke 248 915 0954 Image removed by sender.
Re: [Phono-L] I need HELP from my Phono friends,
Kenneth, I also recommend that you look into free legal services that may be offered by your city or county. Many times counties offer free or low cost legal assistance. I also strongly recommend contacting Lambda Legal by calling 866-542-8336 and asking their advice. They will be able to help you directly or refer you. I'll send you a contribution for legal help.John Robles On Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:04 AM, Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org wrote: Dear Phono Friends, My heart died last Thursday when the state appointed guardian for my mother came rushing into the house and demanding my brothers phone number and so I gave it to her and ask her what was going on. Her name is Flow Cooper and she is so hateful to me and I have always tried to be as nice to her so that she would work with me to help my mother but she and the judge used my health agents me so that she had total control when I could see my mother and when I could not and mostly it was a not this week you can not. Well she grabbed my phone out of my had and started going through it and then called my brother and told him that she was slipping away and likely not make it through the night. Later I found out that she had died early that morning about 9am. Lori acrossed the street drove me the to ALF where she was. From what I was told I expected her to still be alive but they told me I was to late as I walked up to my mother I could see she was gone and I started to cry. I do not know why she just did not tell me when I asked what was going on. I asked her what was going on and what should I do. She said to me that now I had better prepare to prove what is mine in the house such as my phonograph collection and every thing else that was mine and if I can not they are going to take and sell it off and keep the money to pay the bills for her care and leave me with nothing. Mrs. Cooper even said she knew that my father and mother collected the machines and that they were not mine. They even want to take my fountain pen collection, oil and kerosene lamps too. After than she just walked out and slammed the door behind her. Anyone that knows that I collect Phonographs and Graphophones ,I need letters saying just that I do and that I also collect antique oil and kerosene lamps along with fountain pens. Please write the letters in a formal way with return addresses so that it does not look like I just made them up. When you go to phonograph shows and buy and sell stuff or trade it is normally a cash transaction as you know and there is normally no record of it. All this and dealing with my mothers death I don't know how much more I can take alone with being sick. Please send the letters to my address below. I need the letters as soon as possible as I am sure I will have to go to court soon over this. I am asking you to please help me by doing this so I do not loose the investment I made in them so I could sell them off as I needed to help support myself as my disability checks are not enough for me to live off of alone. Thank you in advance, Kenneth Keeton123 Lime Road North WestLake Placid, Florida 33852-6867(863) 243-1011
