Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/27/01 4:16:51 PM, glsm...@yahoo.com writes: Actually, split filter printing is best used for producing a print which contains multiple contrast values. Using two filters on the whole print will yield nothing that a single filter cannot produce (unless one insists upon

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
I think I've seen this, but can't remember where. Pam G.Penate wrote: ... there is a picture of a guy that made a spherical film plate dug in the ground and BW paper placed to conform the shape of the hole. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Think of cutting out a format sized segment from a sphere, just have to place supports so the film/paper is forced to lay on the sphere's inside. However, the wheel of cheese approach is good, too, as is a horizontal cylinder. Pam William Erickson wrote: I've daydreamed a lot about shpeircal

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread William Erickson
I've daydreamed a lot about shpeircal film planes but I haven't figured out how to do it. You can do one curved in one dimension, though. The radius of the curve is the 'focal length of the aperture. It makes the camera look like half a wheel of cheese. In the ones I've made like this there is

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com This means the spherically shaped film holder would have to be different for each focal length. Ouch. :) A spherical shaped film plane would be ideal to maximize the edge sharpness, I guess I should say: to minimize edge

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Thanks, George, that's what I was trying to confirm. I should have said something more like the distance from pinhole to film plane would be the radius of the sphere. This means the spherically shaped film holder would have to be different for each focal length. Ouch. :) Pam George L Smyth

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread George L Smyth
--- Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com wrote: How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the distance from pinhole to film center,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread George L Smyth
--- b2myo...@aol.com wrote: and a contact print of a solarization of a pinhole neg...with great mackie lines...using a #5 filter...or a #0 filter for a different effector split filter printing...#5, the #0. Here are instructions for split filter printing: [clip] Actually, split

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the distance from pinhole to film center, the pinhole being the center of the sphere? Pam

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread William Erickson
I'd guess that edge softness is a product of the fact that the plane of optimal sharpness is a hemisphere centered aroiund the hole, and the film plane is flat, transecting the optimal image best at the center, or if rounded, not rounded at the same radius. - Original Message - From: Simon

RE: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread Andy Schmitt
gee I thought I had an original idea.ow well andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of b2myo...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:05 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re:

Re: [pinhole-discussion] panoramic images

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: mark boucher i liked the panoramic images by simon. i'd second whoever said they would like to see a picture of the camera. i guess since i don't know what a bookboard is it's hard to picture. Bookboard is the hard cardboard used to make hard cover books,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
That's wonderful, Vladimir. Diana Bloomfield and I are working with Guy to produce a marketing/publicity plan. Since there's no way we can actually do all the publicity ourselves, we'd planned to put together a package that could be used by anyone to promote the day wherever they live. I'd love to

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread George L Smyth
Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux What on earth is a chad, whether dimpled, hanging or pregant? Never seen one in my life... Guy You are fortunate indeed! g Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://members.home.net/hmpi/

Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Just in case there are some people new to darkroom work, you have to use variable contrast papers for this to work. Pam b2myo...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/27/01 11:15:26 AM, aschm...@warwick.net writes: a solarized PH Negative... and a contact print of a solarization of a

Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/27/01 11:15:26 AM, aschm...@warwick.net writes: a solarized PH Negative... and a contact print of a solarization of a pinhole neg...with great mackie lines...using a #5 filter...or a #0 filter for a different effector split filter printing...#5, the #0. Here are

RE: [pinhole-discussion] paper negatives and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread Andy Schmitt
The used/old developer is also preferable in doing solarizations...now thats an idea...a solarized PH Negative... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Edward Levinson Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001

[pinhole-discussion] Re: couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Simon Cygielski
Thanks for all your help. Guillermo's argument for a bigger-than-optimal pinhole strikes me as the most likely to produce better far-edge sharpness. though this would most likely sacrifice quality in the center. I wonder if it's worth it, or whether I should just go with what I have. As to my

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Oh, you probably have seen them, they're the little bits, usually circular or oval, partially cutout, that you punch out of card stock. Everyone here knows about them because of the Florida presidential voting debacle, several counties used card stock for the ballots, you were supposed to punch

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread Kosinski Family
How long does a chad remain pregnant before it has the litter? Maybe Nillson has a way of photographing those little chads in the womb. Jim K BTW, I tried with a pregnant chad, but got no image, I guess I should have known! Guillermo ___

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux What on earth is a chad, whether dimpled, hanging or pregant? Never seen one in my life... Guy You can order some here: http://www.miamisouth.com/ !!! Guillermo

Re: [pinhole-discussion] paper negativesn and warm tone developer

2001-02-27 Thread Kosinski Family
Hi Ed, Have not used warm tone developers but have had very good results lowering the contrast of paper negatives with soft developers, such as Selectol. Jim K - Original Message - From: Edward Levinson e...@awa.or.jp To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Simon Cygielski si...@wbj.pl I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic pinhole camera. They're up at http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg Wow,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread Guy Glorieux
What on earth is a chad, whether dimpled, hanging or pregant? Never seen one in my life... Guy G.Penate wrote: - Original Message - From: Gregg Kemp gregg.kemp@p at ??? Well, I guess I was dead wrong about the need for discussion. Its been as quiet at the polls as it has on

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Very cool. As to edge sharpness, is the film supported all the way across by rails of some sort? Is it possible that in building the extension the ends went off plane? Or (can you tell I'm just guessing here? g) maybe the rails need to be curved just a bit to accommodate the hole. Pam Simon

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/26/01 8:48:39 PM, gregg.kemp@p at ??? writes: The birth of the pinhole day is now in your hands: I voted already. PLEASE EVERYONE we need you... let's get this wonderful experience on it's way. You know how important EACH vote is. JUST DO IT! Thanks in

Re: [pinhole-discussion] the Pinhole Polls are open...

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Gregg Kemp gregg.kemp@p at ??? Well, I guess I was dead wrong about the need for discussion. Its been as quiet at the polls as it has on the list today. Speaking of polling, has anyone ever tried making a pinhole image with a dimpled chad? or perhaps a

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread George L Smyth
--- Simon Cygielski si...@wbj.pl wrote: I also have a question: is the loss of sharpness on the far edges inevitable, or can it be corrected somehow? perhaps thinner stock? This hole was made (fairly carefully) out of a Coke can I would definitely say that thinner stock would be appropriate.

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread James Kellar
on 2/27/01 4:56 AM, Simon Cygielski at si...@wbj.pl wrote: Hi all, I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic pinhole camera. They're up at http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg

[pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Simon Cygielski
Hi all, I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic pinhole camera. They're up at http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg I built the camera out of a Holga using bookboard to expand it