Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Larry Fratkin
Tom,
Is there an easy way to check if they're all the way through. I looked at
them with the loupe and can't tell. Also, the holes actually look like
tears. They are not round but jagged. I have the opaque that I use for
scratches and other blemishes. That sounds like a good idea to just but a
blob on the hole.

Larry

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Hi Larry and All,

One more thought.  Are you having the problem with hand-made cameras?
I've had similar problems with the oatmeal box, cigar box and tin can
cameras that I've spray painted.  Over time, the paint comes off in
tiny pieces.  Usually I spray the cameras with compressed air before
loading.  This helps, but if the cameras are bounced around in my car
or as I carry them around, the paint flakes leave pinhole spots on the
paper or film negs.  Does anyone know of a cure for this problem?

Thanks,





[pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Zernike Au
Hi Tom,

 One more thought.  Are you having the problem with hand-made cameras?
 I've had similar problems with the oatmeal box, cigar box and tin can

Your spray color must be very dense and the distance of the camera from the
air gun (or can spray) is too far that the color dry out  (in particle form)
before it reach to the surface of the camera. If the camera is a cigar box,
or a box, it happens always because the paint particles reach one wall and
then reflect to another wall. So the particles cannot stick well to the
camera.

Try to re-apply the paint with more dilute paint and put the air gun near to
the camera (about 8-12inch depends on the air pressure).
Or you can re-apply the paint (very thin, dilute it with more solvent) with
a very soft hand-brush so as to seal the particles.
Hand paint is better than spray because it is really too difficult (nearly
impossible) to spray even color to the corner of a box!!!

Hope this may help.

Zernike Au





Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Larry Fratkin
I use different cameras and different film. I have a 4X5 with which I use
4X5 sheet film and a 120 6X7 rollfilm holder. I have a 120 6X9 camera.

Larry
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Are you using large format film holders (4x5 or 8x10 or others)? It may
be
small holes on the dark slides. I have experienced that.
Trond Kjetil



Folks,
 I have been getting these tiny little pinholes in my negatives every once
in a while and can't figure where they come from. The negatives can be
color
or bw and some I process, some I send out to various labs. So I have two
questions. First, does anyone have an idea of how this happens? Second, Is
there a way to plug the hole so I can print them and then color in the
spot on the print?

Larry



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Larry and All,

One more thought.  Are you having the problem with hand-made cameras?
I've had similar problems with the oatmeal box, cigar box and tin can
cameras that I've spray painted.  Over time, the paint comes off in
tiny pieces.  Usually I spray the cameras with compressed air before
loading.  This helps, but if the cameras are bounced around in my car
or as I carry them around, the paint flakes leave pinhole spots on the
paper or film negs.  Does anyone know of a cure for this problem?

Thanks,

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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:53 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes


 Folks,
  I have been getting these tiny little pinholes in my negatives
every once
 in a while and can't figure where they come from. The negatives can
be color
 or bw and some I process, some I send out to various labs. So I
have two
 questions. First, does anyone have an idea of how this happens?
Second, Is
 there a way to plug the hole so I can print them and then color in
the
 spot on the print?

 Larry


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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Trond Kjetil Holst
Are you using large format film holders (4x5 or 8x10 or others)? It may be
small holes on the dark slides. I have experienced that.
Trond Kjetil



Folks,
 I have been getting these tiny little pinholes in my negatives every once
in a while and can't figure where they come from. The negatives can be color
or bw and some I process, some I send out to various labs. So I have two
questions. First, does anyone have an idea of how this happens? Second, Is
there a way to plug the hole so I can print them and then color in the
spot on the print?

Larry





Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Jerry and Katherine Green-Ellison
Larry...it is my guess that the inside of your pinhole camera is dusty.  At
least in my large format photography, pinholes in the negatives come from
dust settling on the film.  Jerry Ellison


Folks,
 I have been getting these tiny little pinholes in my negatives every once
in a while and can't figure where they come from. The negatives can be color
or bw and some I process, some I send out to various labs. So I have two
questions. First, does anyone have an idea of how this happens? Second, Is
there a way to plug the hole so I can print them and then color in the
spot on the print?

Larry


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Larry,

Are the holes in the emulsion, or are they holes through the film
base?If it is the film emulsion only, it could be dust or maybe a
problem with processing.  I've put far too many holes in sheet film by
tray processing it (too many sheets at once).

Check Kodak publication E-71 on retouching color negatives.  It
mentions two techniques for pinholes, one using a spotting brush to
put Kodak opaque on the negative and then spotting the resulting
print.  The second method is: You can also elimitate pinholes by
using a needlelike stylus on the BASE SIDE of the negative.  Place the
tip of the stylus slightly off center of the pinhole.  With very light
pressure, push the stylus toward the center of the pinhole.  This
technique makes the base rougher, so less light passes through the
pinhole.

I bought some opaque recently, but haven't tried it yet.  The second
technique sounds like it needs a pretty steady hand is needed.

Tom

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From: Ramona ram...@mrpinhole.com
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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:53 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes


 Folks,
  I have been getting these tiny little pinholes in my negatives
every once
 in a while and can't figure where they come from. The negatives can
be color
 or bw and some I process, some I send out to various labs. So I
have two
 questions. First, does anyone have an idea of how this happens?
Second, Is
 there a way to plug the hole so I can print them and then color in
the
 spot on the print?

 Larry


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[pinhole-discussion] Pinholes in my pinholes

2001-02-11 Thread Ramona
Folks,
 I have been getting these tiny little pinholes in my negatives every once
in a while and can't figure where they come from. The negatives can be color
or bw and some I process, some I send out to various labs. So I have two
questions. First, does anyone have an idea of how this happens? Second, Is
there a way to plug the hole so I can print them and then color in the
spot on the print?

Larry




[pinhole-discussion] RE: Micrometer

2001-02-11 Thread Edward Levinson
However, at the quilt store where I got some
betweens needles, she was hip.  A note:  there is actually (shock) one
needle manufacturer that labels their needles with the diameter!!  The sizes
of needles mean absolutely nothing, of course, but Clover labels their
needles with the diameter; the two packages I got have diameters of .51mm
and .46mm.
Chris

I also buy the Clover brand needles here in Japan for my workshops. The
smallest(thinnest) ones I can find are beading needles and the diameter is
listed as .42mm. Six needles to a pack, different lengths but all the same
diameter. For a typical wide angle 5x7 inch box camera we shoot for a hole
around 0.30mm and only drill the needle part way through. It would be nice
to find some smaller needles though!

ED


  Edward Levinson
*Specializing in Fine Art and Editorial Pinhole Photography*
*online portfolio at http://www.awa.or.jp/home/edo *