Re: [Pws] Swiki Rendering, codes in titles, launching MediaPlayer

2006-05-31 Thread Derrel Fincher 

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for looking into rendering; I swear it worked on Winterlong. I have 
had rendering halt after writing a few pages on earlier versions, but that 
was usually traced to mismatched asterisks as my sixth graders tried to use 
them to illustrate multiplication procedures.



As far as putting code into the title, you basically can't. Several
things are not allowed through the Swiki syntax (@:*). These are
pretty ingrained into the system, so I don't see any way around that.


I've found everything from inline styles to javascript embedded in the 
titles. The eighth graders are particularly fond of setting each letter to 
a different color on their page so the *Who Is* page has all the different 
colors. I'll fix it when one of the little tykes uses onmouseover in the 
title so that simply mousing over their link in the *Who Is* page  loads 
their page. Highly annoying. And if they use a font tag to change their 
font in the title some will forget to close the tag, which means the 
changes page below their page takes on that font. I remember Mark 
describing Swiki as anarchic at CSCL 2002. It surely is but our teachers 
don't have a problem with that.



As far as IE vs. Firefox, that's a really tricky one. It sounds like
Firefox is downloading the file and then opening up MediaPlayer on the
file. Since FireFox has permission to get the file, this works. IE, on
the other hand, is just forwarding the URL to MediaPlayer. Since
MediaPlayer does not have the authentication, it has to ask for it. Could
you perhaps reconfigure IE to download the video before it passes it on
to MediaPlayer. Otherwise, this seems pretty difficult to solve.


We'll investigate IE configuration but your explanation sounds logical.


Another thing you could try is, if you know all the IPs in the classroom,
just give all of those IPs read or read/write access to the site.


Hmm, interesting idea. This is on our external server so all of the 900 
computers in the school appear as the same IP but maybe we can work with 
that. I'll pass that on to the lower school IT coordinator and see if it 
works for him.


Thanks for your help. I've trained our other IT Coordinators in basic 
operations so that when I leave for my new school they can continue the 
Swikis next year to satisfy the demand by teachers.


Derrel

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Re: [Pws] Swiki Rendering, codes in titles, launching MediaPlayer

2006-05-30 Thread Jochen F. Rick 
Hi Derrel,

I'll check into it. I thought I tested the rendering before releasing, 
but a bug could have gotten in there.

As far as putting code into the title, you basically can't. Several 
things are not allowed through the Swiki syntax (@:*). These are 
pretty ingrained into the system, so I don't see any way around that.

As far as IE vs. Firefox, that's a really tricky one. It sounds like
Firefox is downloading the file and then opening up MediaPlayer on the
file. Since FireFox has permission to get the file, this works. IE, on
the other hand, is just forwarding the URL to MediaPlayer. Since
MediaPlayer does not have the authentication, it has to ask for it. Could
you perhaps reconfigure IE to download the video before it passes it on
to MediaPlayer. Otherwise, this seems pretty difficult to solve.

Another thing you could try is, if you know all the IPs in the classroom,
just give all of those IPs read or read/write access to the site. 

Peace and Luck!

Jeff

On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 08:03:10PM +0800, Derrel Fincher wrote:
 I have several  issues that maybe somebody has some thoughts on.
 
 First, I'm trying to render a site of some 950 pages and it won't render. 
 In past verisions, generally a few pages would render and I could find an 
 error in the next page that I could fix. However, no pages are showing up 
 in the rendered folder. I've move the swiki to a different machine, also 
 running one of these days. (The first machine is Windows Server 2003 and 
 the second is XP), and I still haven't gotten it to render. When I turn on 
 the log, it just fills up with forbidden messages as though I have a 
 permissions problem. However, in the browser it properly accepts the 
 username and password used for rendering and never asks for them again. 
 The explorer icon will spin and spin, and the log file will fill up with 
 the same message indicating a permissions problem. Any suggestions? The 
 swiki runs One Of These Days and is based on refs.
 
 The second has to do with the title of the page. We are working with 
 middle school students and it takes them about 10 minutes to start putting 
 code in the title. This isn't a problem (unless they fail to properly 
 close the tag) but when the page is edited again it doesn't have the 
 proper opening tag in the title box. Any hints on curing that problem?
 
 Third, we are running into an interesting IE permissions issue when view 
 videos. Our fifth graders are creating short podcasts based on their 
 research and uploading them to their swiki. It's a password protected site 
 where the default is deny all. Each student has his own ID and has upload 
 ability. Our issue is that when an MP3 link is selected, MediaPlayer opens 
 (good), but then a password box pops up that requires that the 
 authentication information to be entered again. However with Firefox, 
 MediaPlayer still opens, but does not ask for a password box. Any ideas on 
 this issue?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Derrel  
 
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