Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread js
Hi, I'm planning on moving my site to Google App Engine. Pylons is the Framework I choose for this. I learned Pylons works on app engine by using appenginemonkey so I tried by following the following doc. http://code.google.com/p/appengine-monkey/wiki/Pylons Ian Bicking's explanation is so

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Orr
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, js [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm planning on moving my site to Google App Engine. Pylons is the Framework I choose for this. I learned Pylons works on app engine by using appenginemonkey so I tried by following the following doc.

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Mike Orr wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously Mike Orr wrote: Of course, that will diminish Mako's amazing speed. It remains to be seen how much of a difference it makes. Perhaps down the road Mako can be patched to put cached

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Antonio Beamud Montero
El lun, 21-07-2008 a las 11:11 +0200, Wichert Akkerman escribió: Mike Orr wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously Mike Orr wrote: Of course, that will diminish Mako's amazing speed. It remains to be seen how much of a difference

Re: The Pylons Book

2008-07-21 Thread Thomas G. Willis
I've spent the weekend going through this book and I'm nearly through part 1. One bit of positive feedback I'd like to throw out there. With most of these web mvc frameworks, the tutorials seem to focus on getting the reader up and running quickly with a working web application. While this is

Re: The Pylons Book

2008-07-21 Thread Thomas G. Willis
On Jul 20, 5:20 pm, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Thomas G. Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing, and this may just be my problem but, while working through the examples I'm constantly having to put a trailing / on the end of my urls for my

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
php is a templating language. all that stuff is written in c and is optimized. php is WAY faster at variable interpolation than python, perl, everything else. templates are a small fraction of your 'business logic'. 95% of what you do in pylons, php, and everythign else will have the database

simplejon 1.7.1

2008-07-21 Thread Beginner
hello, I'm learning Pylons and i'm following the steps giving in the Part 1 Chapter 8 of the pylons book tutorial(http://pylonsbook.com/alpha1/ simplesite_tutorial) to do this simpleSite, but i am getting the following error in my command...I'm unsing virtualenv because i'm working on a

Re: simplejon 1.7.1

2008-07-21 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Beginner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I'm learning Pylons and i'm following the steps giving in the Part 1 Chapter 8 of the pylons book tutorial(http://pylonsbook.com/alpha1/ simplesite_tutorial) to do this simpleSite, but i am getting the following

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Walter Cruz
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi JS, I'm writing a book on Python on App Engine (http://www.manning.com/gift/) and am just now sorting out what issues Pylons has on it. So any tips from others who are using Pylons on App Engine would be greatly

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Jens Hoffrichter
Hello Jonathan, 2008/7/21 Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED]: php is a templating language. all that stuff is written in c and is optimized. php is WAY faster at variable interpolation than python, perl, everything else. templates are a small fraction of your 'business logic'. 95% of

Re: The Pylons Book

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Orr
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Thomas G. Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 5:20 pm, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Thomas G. Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing, and this may just be my problem but, while working through the

Re: simplejon 1.7.1

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Orr
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Lawrence Oluyede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Beginner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I'm learning Pylons and i'm following the steps giving in the Part 1 Chapter 8 of the pylons book tutorial(http://pylonsbook.com/alpha1/

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi. I'm sitting in a room with Wichert right now and he told me, that he posted about my blog post in here, so that's where I think Michael have seen it :) Michael posted some comments on http://hannosch.blogspot.com/2008/07/project-messerschmidt-vs-nkotb.html which I'd like to follow up on in

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Michael Bayer
On Jul 21, 4:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def render(table, _context=None, target_language=None):     global generation     (_out, _write) = generation.initialize_stream()     (_attributes, repeat) = generation.initialize_tal()     (_domain, _negotiate, _translate) =

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
On Jul 21, 11:57 am, Jens Hoffrichter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to start a religious discussion about programming languages here, especially about speed and ease of use. I don't either, but I need to clarify something. I think in context of the question and the response, it was

Logging static requests

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Orr
I have an access log based on paste.translogger, and it's not logging static file requests (unless they're not found). Since this is for development, I'd like to see how the browser cache is (or is not) being used. Logically it seems like the static_app (PasteURLParser) should return through

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread chsoft
Why is there so much different in response time? On Jul 21, 5:48 pm, Antonio Beamud Montero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 21-07-2008 a las 11:11 +0200, Wichert Akkerman escribió: Mike Orr wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread hanno...@googlemail.com
Hi. I'm sitting in a room with Wichert right now and he told me, that he posted about my blog post in here, so that's where I think Michael have seen it :) Michael posted some comments on http://hannosch.blogspot.com/2008/07/project-messerschmidt-vs-nkotb.html which I'd like to follow up on in

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Sorry, for the double post, the incredibly bad Google Groups UI didn't seem to accept my post and wasn't giving a hint at the moderation for first time posters. Michael Bayer wrote: Yeah, so here is the mako render() method for that template: def render_body(context,**pageargs):

Re: Pylons on Google App Engine

2008-07-21 Thread Michael Bayer
Mako uses beaker for caching so it should support any of those backends. There's a little bit of hardcoding to particular Beaker backends in 0.2.2 which is removed in the current trunk (also in prep for the new release of Beaker), but even with 0.2.2 that can be worked around by adding the