On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't use paster serve, and wouldn't recommend it. You can/should
use paste.deploy.loadapp('development.ini') in your main.py or
runner.py or whatever script, and then use dev_appserver.
Would you mind expanding
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Jason S. jas...@tuffmail.com wrote:
I still don't get setuptools. I don't understand namespace packages, or
rather their deployment. I don't get why I can't move (for example)
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
I remember at some point having a problem with pip installing the
Paste packages, and paste/__init__.py was missing. I think I was
working on an actual app so I punted and created the file manually,
and didn't try to
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
I personally got too annoyed with testing and general interactivity
(there's a nose extension though, which I cribbed from -- but I never
actually got it to work myself).
This process has been EXTREMELY annoying. I've
On Oct 15, 11:59 am, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
I personally got too annoyed with testing and general interactivity
(there's a nose extension though, which I cribbed from -- but I never
actually got
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Jason S. jas...@tuffmail.com wrote:
I still don't get setuptools. I don't understand namespace packages, or
rather their deployment. I don't get why I can't move (for example)
paste,
and the Paste* items to another directory that is ON sys.path and have it
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
This process has been EXTREMELY annoying. I've spent many hours trying to
get things to work that I should have been spending working on my project.
Mostly, its my own ignorance of current magical techniques:
All of
unless it's added to the path somehow. BTW, I don't think GAE
uses .pth files, which is why sys.path manipulation is necessary.
It *seems *like this isn't true. If I omit pth files when uploading to GAE,
my app is failing with a 500 error. But I wouldn't trust that yet... can you
do a
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com
wrote:
This process has been EXTREMELY annoying. I've spent many hours trying to
get things to work that I should have been spending working on my
be converted (though the necessary changes to models, etc., mean
that reusability is poor nonetheless.)
http://countergram.com/articles/pylons-google-app-engine/
Feedback is welcome and I'll try to update the article promptly if
there are any show-stoppers or better approaches. I've done several
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
This seems much better than my own recent work... I think it's a mistake to
start with appengine-homedir... better to just start from stock Pylons and
hack it till it works on GAE. That's been my discovery over the
-google-app-engine/
Feedback is welcome and I'll try to update the article promptly if
there are any show-stoppers or better approaches. I've done several
runs through the steps provided, though.
Jason
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
2. Patch Paste Deploy with a new loader class, to load a function spec
instead of an egg spec, without changing anything else about the INI
file format. In other words, my app:main looks like this:
[app:main]
use
On Oct 11, 12:38 am, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that you can simply delete the speedups file from the simplejson
module.
Works, thanks.
[app:main]
use = func:myhello.config.middleware:make_app
full_stack = true
I'm not following completely. Does this make the
I just got a hello-world Pylons app running on GAE without using the
appengine-monkey/homedir scripts and using the stock paster template
(and an INI file). I'm not sure if I'm going to use GAE seriously, but
it's an interesting problem to work on. If I am, then personally, I
would rather not use
This sound really promising.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Jason S. jas...@tuffmail.com wrote:
I just got a hello-world Pylons app running on GAE without using the
appengine-monkey/homedir scripts and using the stock paster template
(and an INI file). I'm not sure if I'm going to use GAE
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
None has been mentioned on the list. The thread you found is the
latest. If you have time to figure out the easiest install procedure
for Pylons
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, I probably have some terminology wrong: I'm not sure what the meta
files like MANIFEST.in and ez_setup.py actually are... are they egg files?
Paster files? Setuptools? I don't know what to properly call them
Thanks for the answers and clarifications... more below.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
Feel free to link to it on the other page, or to paste the whole thing into
that page.
Will-do. And I'll fix the error you pointed out, change the thanks
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
An egg is a Python package accompanied by its metadata. An egg can
contain more than one package, but always one metadata. There are two
file formats for eggs:
...
Thanks for all of that. It helps. A lot. I'll look at
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, I probably have some terminology wrong: I'm not sure what the meta
files like MANIFEST.in and ez_setup.py actually are... are they egg
files?
Paster files? Setuptools? I don't know what to properly call them when I
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure I'm up to that task (I use Pylons a lot, but kindof tune-out
the parts about PasteDeply/Script, SetupTools, etc.
Even if you can just keep testing the process and adding advice to the
howto, that would
On Oct 8, 12:26 am, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
(Wikis suck. It totally roasted all my formatting from rst/html. Editing
yet-another-markup in a textarea is painful. Argh.)
Some wikis -- like trac -- support rst formatting.
in trac you just format it like this:
{{{
#!rst
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:26 am, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
(Wikis suck. It totally roasted all my formatting from rst/html. Editing
yet-another-markup in a textarea is painful. Argh.)
Some wikis -- like
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
Correct; I have in the past basically flattened things for appengine.
Unfortunately that doesn't work well with paster create -t pylons. It might
however be more productive to have an appengine template, since you already
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
This leads to two questions:
1. Can we simply delete that stuff ? It would make it harder to manage
the
app going forward.
Can we delete what?
Sorry; I edited out the part that would have made that more clear. What I
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm not sure I'm up to that task (I use Pylons a lot, but kindof
tune-out
the parts about PasteDeply/Script, SetupTools, etc.
Even if you
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote:
What we need is somebody who
regularly uses Pylons on App Engine to maintain the howto.
I don't know how long my commitment to use GAE will continue. I'm basically
evaluating it now with a project. If I can help
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
None has been mentioned on the list. The thread you found is the
latest. If you have time to figure out the easiest install procedure
for Pylons on App Engine and to update the howto, it would be a
contribution to Pylons.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com wrote:
None has been mentioned on the list. The thread you found is the
latest. If you have time to figure out the easiest install procedure
for Pylons on App Engine and to update the howto, it would be a
contribution to Pylons.
I've read a few threads about the state of pylons on google app engine, and
that parts of it work and parts don't. Doing a quick google on the subject
reveals a few tutorials that use appengine-monkey to accomplish setting up
the framework, however it appears as if that is no longer necessary.
I
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Brian O'Connorgatzby...@gmail.com wrote:
I've read a few threads about the state of pylons on google app engine, and
that parts of it work and parts don't. Doing a quick google on the subject
reveals a few tutorials that use appengine-monkey to accomplish
Hi.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Michael Bayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 21, 6:29 pm, Hanno Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hhm, somewhat obfuscated code ;)
well we did the cheetah thing and made sure we used names that would
never conflict with end-user variables
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Walter Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guido Van Rossum has published a zipimport for appengine, this could
shirnk the package a lot ;)
The problem is that Pylons is not zip safe according to Ben because it
uses __file_. I've also heard Mako can't load
Hi,
I'm planning on moving my site to Google App Engine.
Pylons is the Framework I choose for this.
I learned Pylons works on app engine by using appenginemonkey
so I tried by following the following doc.
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-monkey/wiki/Pylons
Ian Bicking's explanation is so
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, js [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm planning on moving my site to Google App Engine.
Pylons is the Framework I choose for this.
I learned Pylons works on app engine by using appenginemonkey
so I tried by following the following doc.
http://code.google.com
Mike Orr wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Previously Mike Orr wrote:
Of course, that will diminish Mako's amazing speed. It remains to be
seen how much of a difference it makes. Perhaps down the road Mako
can be patched to put cached
El lun, 21-07-2008 a las 11:11 +0200, Wichert Akkerman escribió:
Mike Orr wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Previously Mike Orr wrote:
Of course, that will diminish Mako's amazing speed. It remains to be
seen how much of a difference
php is a templating language. all that stuff is written in c and is
optimized. php is WAY faster at variable interpolation than python,
perl, everything else.
templates are a small fraction of your 'business logic'. 95% of what
you do in pylons, php, and everythign else will have the database
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi JS, I'm writing a book on Python on App Engine
(http://www.manning.com/gift/) and am just now sorting out what issues
Pylons has on it. So any tips from others who are using Pylons on App
Engine would be greatly
Hello Jonathan,
2008/7/21 Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
php is a templating language. all that stuff is written in c and is
optimized. php is WAY faster at variable interpolation than python,
perl, everything else.
templates are a small fraction of your 'business logic'. 95% of
Hi.
I'm sitting in a room with Wichert right now and he told me, that he
posted about my blog post in here, so that's where I think Michael
have seen it :)
Michael posted some comments on
http://hannosch.blogspot.com/2008/07/project-messerschmidt-vs-nkotb.html
which I'd like to follow up on in
On Jul 21, 4:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
def render(table, _context=None, target_language=None):
global generation
(_out, _write) = generation.initialize_stream()
(_attributes, repeat) = generation.initialize_tal()
(_domain, _negotiate, _translate) =
On Jul 21, 11:57 am, Jens Hoffrichter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't want to start a religious discussion about programming
languages here, especially about speed and ease of use.
I don't either, but I need to clarify something. I think in context
of the question and the response, it was
Why is there so much different in response time?
On Jul 21, 5:48 pm, Antonio Beamud Montero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
El lun, 21-07-2008 a las 11:11 +0200, Wichert Akkerman escribió:
Mike Orr wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi.
I'm sitting in a room with Wichert right now and he told me, that he
posted about my blog post in here, so that's where I think Michael
have seen it :)
Michael posted some comments on
http://hannosch.blogspot.com/2008/07/project-messerschmidt-vs-nkotb.html
which I'd like to follow up on in
Hi.
Sorry, for the double post, the incredibly bad Google Groups UI didn't
seem to accept my post and wasn't giving a hint at the moderation for
first time posters.
Michael Bayer wrote:
Yeah, so here is the mako render() method for that template:
def render_body(context,**pageargs):
Mako uses beaker for caching so it should support any of those
backends. There's a little bit of hardcoding to particular Beaker
backends in 0.2.2 which is removed in the current trunk (also in prep
for the new release of Beaker), but even with 0.2.2 that can be worked
around by adding the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm planning on moving my site to Google App Engine.
Pylons is the Framework I choose for this.
I learned Pylons works on app engine by using appenginemonkey
so I tried by following the following doc.
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-monkey/wiki/Pylons
Ian
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