Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Someone with web server access may want to double check the modification dates of the .txt files relative to the generated .html files for other

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/26/2010 9:38 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 11:15 AM 9/27/2010 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: You misunderstand me; I wasn't asking how to *add* a link, but how to turn OFF the automatic conversion of the phrase PEP 333 that happens without any special markup. Currently, the PEP preface is

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread P.J. Eby
At 01:22 PM 9/27/2010 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: On 9/26/2010 9:38 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 11:15 AM 9/27/2010 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: You misunderstand me; I wasn't asking how to *add* a link, but how to turn OFF the automatic conversion of the phrase PEP 333 that happens without any special

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
The PEP still hasn't showed up on Python.org, though, so I'm wondering if maybe I broke something else somewhere. See http://www.python.org/status/postcommitlog.txt Error processing PEP None (./pep-.txt), excluding: (./pep-.txt): did not deal with u'Replaces' before having to handle

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/27/2010 2:22 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: The PEP still hasn't showed up on Python.org, though, so I'm wondering if maybe I broke something else somewhere. See http://www.python.org/status/postcommitlog.txt Nasty link. That log begins back in 2008 and is so huge that it was still loading

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Michael Foord
On 27/09/2010 18:22, Terry Reedy wrote: On 9/26/2010 9:38 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 11:15 AM 9/27/2010 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: You misunderstand me; I wasn't asking how to *add* a link, but how to turn OFF the automatic conversion of the phrase PEP 333 that happens without any special markup.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Brett Cannon
All fixed. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:22, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: The PEP still hasn't showed up on Python.org, though, so I'm wondering if maybe I broke something else somewhere. See http://www.python.org/status/postcommitlog.txt Error processing PEP None

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread P.J. Eby
At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope. I mean, sure, I checked in fixed PEP sources several hours ago, but python.org still doesn't show PEP , or the updated version of PEP 333. ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Brett Cannon
I spoke too soon. The Makefile stopped complaining before I committed, but turned out that was a lie. Fixed PEP 0 again, verifying there were no errors after a `make clean`, touching pep-.txt, or from just deleting pep-.txt. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:33, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 27.09.2010 22:33, schrieb P.J. Eby: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope. I mean, sure, I checked in fixed PEP sources several hours ago, but python.org still doesn't show PEP , or the updated version of PEP 333. It does now, for me, so I assume

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 27.09.2010 22:17, schrieb P.J. Eby: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope. Indeed. The immediate problem was that genpepindex tried to read pep-, and didn't like it. I worked around that in r85041, so that genpepindex now skips over pep-.txt. However,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:33 AM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope.  I mean, sure, I checked in fixed PEP sources several hours ago, but python.org still doesn't show PEP , or the updated version of PEP 333. I tweaked

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope.  I mean, sure, I checked in fixed PEP sources several hours ago, but python.org still doesn't show PEP , or the updated version of PEP 333. Seems

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Someone with web server access may want to double check the modification dates of the .txt files relative to the generated .html files for other PEPs though. make will deal with that just fine. If a PEP was modified, svn up will update the time stamp on the file. When then the rebuild fails,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Someone with web server access may want to double check the modification dates of the .txt files relative to the generated .html files for other PEPs though. make will deal with that just fine. If a PEP was modified,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread P.J. Eby
At 02:03 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope. I mean, sure, I checked in fixed PEP sources several hours ago, but python.org still doesn't show

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:29 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 02:03 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: All fixed. Nope.  I mean, sure, I

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Greg Ewing
On 9/26/2010 9:38 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: Currently, the PEP preface is littered with unnecessary links, because the PEP pre-processor turns *every* mere textual mention of a PEP into a link to it. Perhaps the preprocessor should only do this for the first occurrence of each linkable phrase

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread P.J. Eby
At 05:41 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:29 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 02:03 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: At 12:36 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, Brett Cannon

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Because it's not clear to most of us on this thread what the failure modes and recovery strategies are? I know it's clear as mud to me how to debug these kinds of issues. As a starting point, look at the postcommitlog. It should contain the commands that got executed, and the error messages

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Well, one of the tradeoffs here is that Informational track allows something to grow into a solid standard without also having to pass the same level of up-front scrutiny and commitment that a Standards track item does. I rather doubt that either the DBAPI *or* WSGI would've passed that

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread P.J. Eby
At 08:20 AM 9/26/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: I'm happy approving Final status for the *original* PEP 333 and I'm happy to approve a new PEP which includes PJE's corrections. Can we make it PEP , then? ;-) That number would at least communicate that it's the same thing, but for

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/26/2010 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: Thank you do doing the needed rewrite. Can we make it PEP , then? ;-) That number would at least communicate that it's the same thing, but for Python 3. A new rewriten PEP gives you a bit more freedom than doing it in place. It will be easier to

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 08:20 AM 9/26/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: I'm happy approving Final status for the *original* PEP 333 and I'm happy to approve a new PEP which includes PJE's corrections. Can we make it PEP , then? ;-) That works for me. -Barry

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 08:20 AM 9/26/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: I'm happy approving Final status for the *original* PEP 333 and I'm happy to approve a new PEP which includes PJE's

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread P.J. Eby
At 01:44 PM 9/26/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:33 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 08:20 AM 9/26/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: I'm happy approving Final status for the *original* PEP 333 and I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: Since you have commit privileges, just do it. The PEP editor position mostly exists to assure non-committers are not prevented from authoring PEPs. Please do add a prominent note at the top of PEP 333 pointing to PEP

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread P.J. Eby
Done. The other amendments were never actually made, so I just reverted the Python 3 bit after moving it to the new PEP. I'll make the changes to instead as soon as I have another time slot free. At 01:56 PM 9/26/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: Since you have commit privileges,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread P.J. Eby
At 02:59 PM 9/26/2010 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: You could mark added material is a way that does not conflict with rst or html. Or use .rst to make new text stand out in the .html web verion (bold, underlined, red, or whatever). People familiar with 333 can focus on the marked sections. New

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread P.J. Eby
At 11:15 AM 9/27/2010 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: P.J. Eby http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devpje at telecommunity.com writes: (For that matter, if anybody knows how to make it not turn *every* PEP reference into a link, that'd be good too! It doesn't really need to turn 5 or 6

Re: [Python-Dev] [Web-SIG] WSGI is now Python 3-friendly

2010-09-26 Thread Ben Finney
P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com writes: At 11:15 AM 9/27/2010 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: reST, being designed explicitly for Python documentation, has support for PEP references built in: You misunderstand me; I wasn't asking how to *add* a link, but how to turn OFF the automatic conversion