Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-12 Thread George Gwilt
On 8 Oct 2007, at 12:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, exactly, is wrong with being a punter? Other than having to stand at the back of a flat boat with a pole in one's hand :o) The poling person stands on the flat end of the punt in one of the two real punting places and the sloping

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I don't know, I have a VERY hard time taking this subject seriously at all. Wolfgang Same for me: there definitely must be some differences in the brains on the Island vs continent! (no offense meant: without the big island we would not have the QL!) Arnould Just dismiss it all as

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I was never there myself, but I do so enjoy the monuments and such like - most impressive. Umm ... and I thought time travel was nothing for a fellow like you ... :-) Remember that QL Today cartoon a few years ago, with Norman even dreaming in binary ;-)) -- Dilwyn Jones

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-10 Thread Darren Branagh - Kingfisher Club
Dilwyn Jones wrote: The CD version is available from me for 5 pounds, including UK postage, or add £1 for overseas postage. It will be available from Darren Branagh at Q-Celt Computing in Ireland, although I don't know if he intends to supply it on CD to keep costs down and allow people to

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-10 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Bill Loguidice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters Is there more information somewhere about the QL-on-a-stick? We also hope to have a review in QL Today and I see from another

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones
OK, John, one will be snail-mailing its way to you soon. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters Hi Dilwyn, No I didn't get a review copy of QL on a stick

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-10 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Malcolm, Not entirely frazzled the old brain then ( in the heat )... ? ... :-) Not any more than usual I'm afraid - I tend to always be frazzled these days. ;-) So, some more articles on machine code could be on the way ... ? I envy

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-10 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Arnould [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters I don't know, I have a VERY hard time taking this subject seriously at all. Wolfgang Same for me: there definitely must be some

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-10 Thread David Tubbs
At 21:01 10/10/2007 +0100, you wrote: Same for me: there definitely must be some differences in the brains on the Island vs continent! (no offense meant: without the big island we would not have the QL!) There is no offence. This really concerns the finer nuances of a word I too immediately

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread Wolf
gwicks a écrit : I would repeat yet again. My main purpose is to raise this as a serious matter, and on the whole the discussion has had the right balance of serious comment, humour and passion, I don't know, I have a VERY hard time taking this subject seriously at all. Wolfgang

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Norman, Not entirely frazzled the old brain then ( in the heat )... ? ... :-) I envy you the visit ... Ancient Egypt has always been a favourite period of mine. I do a project at school which uses the background research on a tumbler

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Clip On a slightly different note, I must say that I find this list very 'exciting'. I remember when it was restricted to pure QL topics and while interesting and thoughtful, it seemed a bit 'staid' at times. Now that we tend to drift

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh - Kingfisher Club
Hi Roy, I intended to come and help Dilwyn with QL on a Stick, and Steve Reyal wanted to go too. My wife works weekends, only for about 4 hours in the mornings, but its the busiest time of the week and seldom gets weekends off. and with two kids I couldn't leave them alone - its almost

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread norman
Hi Malcolm, Not entirely frazzled the old brain then ( in the heat )... ? ... :-) Not any more than usual I'm afraid - I tend to always be frazzled these days. ;-) I envy you the visit ... Ancient Egypt has always been a favourite period of mine. I was never there myself, but I do so enjoy

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread hitchies
Norman wrote... Who needs a spring when you have gravity? Please send me some (in green please) Norman! Thus, Malcolm wrote... I guess it also helps to be slightly mad ... :-) John in Wales (not raining) Attendee ___

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-09 Thread Bill Loguidice
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hitchies Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters Norman wrote... Who needs a spring when you have gravity? Please send me some (in green please) Norman! Thus, Malcolm wrote

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread hitchies
punters...? it's a bit shady Arfur Dailee. Before I vote, I'm waiting to read what we get when we Dunbar-it! When speaking English in Wales we say bloke blokes unless, in the feminine case, when it is blokess blokesses. The Welsh have a word saeson. This is often (mis)used to mean that

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread arnold . clarke
Hi, I used to have a shop and we referred to the people who attended our shop as customers, people who attend market places, boot stalls etc, are referred to as punters. Arnold ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread Darren Branagh - Kingfisher Club
Roy wood wrote: The problem is I cannot think of a suitable alternative that also conveys the sort of atmosphere we have at shows, 'Billys' or, as Stuart would have it 'the great unwashed' Ahhh, I miss Stuart, he really had a way with words at times. I remember he christened the

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread norman
Dear oh dear. BEGIN RANT ... I really get 'teed' off with Political (bloody) Correctness. What a complete pile of crud that subject is. For example, a black, Somalian, Muslim friend of mine (George Bush must really hate him) hates being called 'coloured' because, as he says, he is black. Not

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread norman
Hi John, (In Wales) Before I vote, I'm waiting to read what we get when we Dunbar-it! Dunbar IT - that's my company name :o) As for my thoughts on the matter - see my previous rant, I think that should cover it. Cheers, Norman. (not in Wales) ___

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread norman
Hi Arnold, I used to have a shop and we referred to the people who attended our shop as customers, people who attend market places, boot stalls etc, are referred to as punters. I was always of the opinion, probably wrong, that customers were people who brought 'you' (ie the shop keepers etc)

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear oh dear. BEGIN RANT ... I really get 'teed' off with Political (bloody) Correctness. What a complete pile of crud that subject is. For example, a black, Somalian, Muslim friend of mine (George Bush must

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Clip There is nothing abusive in being called a punter and I'm happy to be one, because, I am one. If other people complain about being a punter then they are either far too sensitive or have had PC rammed down their throats to a

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters Hi Geoff, Just a word of caution. Please be careful in your assumptions about the person who raised the matter with me. It is someone I have

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters I have been severely rebuked by a gentleman who wishes to be known as an attendee at the Birmingham Workshop. He assures me that his

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread norman
Hi Malcolm, Whereas ALL ql_users, as we know, are very erudite ... :-) Indeed we are ! Norman. (Back from Egypt, and only slightly burned.) Umm ... it must have been hot ... ! Yes it was. 14 days all of which were 40 degrees (C) plus, or, in old money, over 104 degrees F. Cheers, Norman.

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread norman
Hello again Geoff, Also on my part there was no intention to accuse you or anyone else of personal critcism of the person in question. I just thought we could be going in a dangerous direction in which some readers might just draw this conclusion. None taken Geoff - no need to apologise.

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I have been severely rebuked by a gentleman who wishes to be known as an attendee at the Birmingham Workshop. He assures me that his nautical ambitions are zero and that he has never been on a punt in his life. I'd have just said visitor myself. But I can't see anything wrong with using

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gwicks wrote: I have been severely rebuked by a gentleman who wishes to be known as an attendee at the Birmingham Workshop. He assures me that his nautical ambitions are zero and that he has never been on a punt in his life. This is a serious

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread John Gilpin
workshop and nice to see so many people there. See you all at the next one? Regards, John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I do not like punter either ... as it also reminds me of those phone-in Shows on TV, where the supposed prizes have already been assigned. Why not enthusiasts ( much more positive ) or visitors ( quite neutral ) ... ? I have been

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Punters It isn't very often that Quanta agrees with Geoff Wicks: Is this a subtle Quanta plot to destroy my reputation? Actually I am

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread Paul Holmgren
Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I do not like punter either ... as it also reminds me of those phone-in Shows on TV, where the supposed prizes have already been assigned. Why not enthusiasts ( much more positive ) or visitors ( quite

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread Matrassyl
In a message dated 07/10/2007 18:12:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I am not being facetious about the use of the word punter. I wote in a light-hearted way, but I think the person concerned is making a fair point, and we should be sensitive to it. The problem

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In a message dated 07/10/2007 18:12:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I am not being facetious about the use of the word punter. I wote in a light-hearted way, but I think the person concerned is making a fair point,

Re: [Ql-Users] Punters

2007-10-07 Thread Timothy Swenson
I had no idea that the work punter was slightly offensive, nor that it would be used to refer to attendees. When I hear the the term, I just think about the position in American Football. Now, to punt has common usage, meaning to pass one to someone else. Tim Swenson