Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[John Gilpin via Ql-Users]

Hi George and others who have also missed the Apr/May issue of QUANTA eMag,

After considerable investigation, it would appear that having sent the 
Apr/May Issue of QUANTA eMag out in two batches, I may have sent the 
same batch out twice! Some time ago, I sent out the eMag out as one 
batch but together with a large .PDF file I was advised by BT that I had 
exceeded some limit that I wasn't aware of and it was suggested that I 
sent the eMag out in two batches.


Of course the error with the recent issue is entirely my fault for which 
I apologise to all affected and both John Southern and I have tried to 
keep pace with the messages received telling us that they had not 
received their eMag. I think that most of you know that I have resigned 
from the QUANTA Committee as treasurer and Membership Secretary with 
effect from the A.G.M. in April and John Southern has taken over from 
me. Good luck John!


However, just in case anyone has still not received their eMag, I have 
decided to send the eMag again to all the members who were on the second 
mailing list. To those who have already received the eMag, I offer my 
sincere apologies for any inconvenience caused by receiving a duplicate 
attachment.


Hopefully having corrected the error, I only have to say thank you to 
all who have helped me with my QLing and should any of you have a 
problem with anything that you think I can answer (or know someone who 
can), please drop me an email and I will endeavor to provide either a 
full answer or perhaps a key from which you can sort out your problem on 
your own.


To you all, I hope that you continue to get a load of pleasure from your 
QL and I look forward to following your activities either through this 
list or through the QUANTA Magazine .


Cheers and kind regards,

John Gilpin.




On 24/07/2017 16:56, George Gwilt wrote:


On 24 Jul 2017, at 16:52, John Gilpin > wrote:


My fault entirely. - See attached


Thank you

George


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[Klaus Frank via Ql-Users]

Hi John,

Just to tell you, that the latest issue I have recieved is Feb/Mar 2017.

Regards
Klaus Frank

Sendt fra min iPad

> Den 23. jul. 2017 kl. 20.35 skrev John Southern via Ql-Users 
> <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have taken over as the membership secretary.
> 
> The latest magazine is incredibly late and that is purely down to me
> and I am working through that today.
> 
> Simon, Michael, Ian, you should have all received copies up to and
> including April/May 2017.
> 
> Can you send me you email address to my personal email -
> linuxtarragon@gmail just so I know I have the correct one and I will
> send out your copies.
> 
> Regards
> John Southern
> 
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, IAN BURKINSHAW via Ql-Users
> <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>> I have not received the magazine either.
>> In fact the last one I received was Oct/Nov 2015.
>> I keep meaning to contact Quanta, but just not around to it.
>> Ian
>> 
>>On Sunday, 23 July 2017, 11:28, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users 
>> <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I've received two issues this year, up to the Feb/March issue.
>> None received since then.  I did email John Gilpin last week, but no reply 
>> as yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael
>> Dilwyn wrote:
>> 
>>> I've forwarded this to committee members (don't know the answer myself),
>>> hopefully a reply soon.
>>> 
>>> Dilwyn
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: sba1derson via Ql-Users
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:08 AM
>>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>>> Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine
>>> 
>>> Has anyone received an electronic copy of Quanta magazine since the
>>> January/February 2017 issue?  I've not received one since.  I've contacted
>>> Quanta via their website but so far have had no response.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[sba1derson via Ql-Users]

Hi John,

When can I expect delivery of my missing back issues of Quanta magazine please? 
 I sent you my e-mail details on the 24th July.

Simon Balderson

On 23 Jul 2017 19:35, John Southern via Ql-Users <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> 
wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
>
> I have taken over as the membership secretary. 
>
> The latest magazine is incredibly late and that is purely down to me > and I 
> am working through that today. > > Simon, Michael, Ian, you should have all 
> received copies up to and > including April/May 2017. > > Can you send me you 
> email address to my personal email - > linuxtarragon@gmail just so I know I 
> have the correct one and I will > send out your copies. > > Regards > John 
> Southern > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, IAN BURKINSHAW via Ql-Users > 
> wrote: > > I have not received the magazine either. > > In fact the last one 
> I received was Oct/Nov 2015. > > I keep meaning to contact Quanta, but just 
> not around to it. > > Ian > > > > On Sunday, 23 July 2017, 11:28, Michael 
> Bulford via Ql-Users wrote: > > > > > >  I've received two issues this year, 
> up to the Feb/March issue. > > None received since then.  I did email John 
> Gilpin last week, but no reply as yet. > > > > > > Michael > > Dilwyn wrote: 
> > > > >> I've forwarded this to committee members (don't know the answer 
> myself), > >> hopefully a reply soon. > >> > >> Dilwyn > >> > >> 
> -Original Message- > >> From: sba1derson via Ql-Users > >> Sent: 
> Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:08 AM > >> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > >> Subject: 
> [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine > >> > >> Has anyone received an electronic copy 
> of Quanta magazine since the > >> January/February 2017 issue?  I've not 
> received one since.  I've contacted > >> Quanta via their website but so far 
> have had no response. > > ___ > > 
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[via Ql-Users]

> On 23 Jul 2017, at 19:35, John Southern via Ql-Users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Simon, Michael, Ian, you should have all received copies up to and
> including April/May 2017.


The latest QUANTA I have received is FEB/MAR 2017.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Hi All,

I have taken over as the membership secretary.

The latest magazine is incredibly late and that is purely down to me
and I am working through that today.

Simon, Michael, Ian, you should have all received copies up to and
including April/May 2017.

Can you send me you email address to my personal email -
linuxtarragon@gmail just so I know I have the correct one and I will
send out your copies.

Regards
John Southern

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, IAN BURKINSHAW via Ql-Users
<ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> I have not received the magazine either.
> In fact the last one I received was Oct/Nov 2015.
> I keep meaning to contact Quanta, but just not around to it.
> Ian
>
> On Sunday, 23 July 2017, 11:28, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users 
> <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
>
>  I've received two issues this year, up to the Feb/March issue.
> None received since then.  I did email John Gilpin last week, but no reply as 
> yet.
>
>
> Michael
> Dilwyn wrote:
>
>> I've forwarded this to committee members (don't know the answer myself),
>> hopefully a reply soon.
>>
>> Dilwyn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: sba1derson via Ql-Users
>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:08 AM
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine
>>
>> Has anyone received an electronic copy of Quanta magazine since the
>> January/February 2017 issue?  I've not received one since.  I've contacted
>> Quanta via their website but so far have had no response.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[Michael Bulford via Ql-Users]

I've received two issues this year, up to the Feb/March issue.
None received since then.  I did email John Gilpin last week, but no reply as 
yet.


Michael
Dilwyn wrote:

> I've forwarded this to committee members (don't know the answer myself), 
> hopefully a reply soon.
>
> Dilwyn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: sba1derson via Ql-Users
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:08 AM
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine
>
> Has anyone received an electronic copy of Quanta magazine since the 
> January/February 2017 issue?  I've not received one since.  I've contacted 
> Quanta via their website but so far have had no response.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users]

I've forwarded this to committee members (don't know the answer myself), 
hopefully a reply soon.


Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: sba1derson via Ql-Users

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:08 AM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

Has anyone received an electronic copy of Quanta magazine since the 
January/February 2017 issue?  I've not received one since.  I've contacted 
Quanta via their website but so far have had no response.

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[Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[sba1derson via Ql-Users]

Has anyone received an electronic copy of Quanta magazine since the 
January/February 2017 issue?  I've not received one since.  I've contacted 
Quanta via their website but so far have had no response.
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[Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[John Gilpin]

As an example of my email earlier, I am grateful to Dilwyn Jones (all of 
them!) for bring my attention to John Taylor's observation of the 
unfortunate error which occurred in the March edition of the QUANTA 
Magazine Volume 28 Issue 2 where the account's Income and Expenditure 
account has been duplicated on pages 35 and 36. Sarah, who has taken on 
the editing of the Magazine following my resignation as Acting Editor - 
a post held for about 6 years, hoping that a person would volunteer to 
take on this very exacting role - literally jumped into the deep end 
early in February and (with a little assistance) produced a very 
creditable issue, only to find that she had so much material left to 
publish - including all the AGM reports etc - with very little time to 
prepare it all. It is regrettable, although not altogether unexpected, 
that a mistake in some form would occur as a result of the shortage of 
time and Sarah's inexperience as an editor. Please accept our sincere 
apologies for this error.


There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the AGM 
except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has delayed 
their despatching to those members who have opted to take their Magazine 
in this format). Extra copies of these documents will be made available 
at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before the meeting.


I am not surprised that it was the previous Treasurer (John Taylor) who 
spotted this error but I need to point out that without Dilwyn seeing 
John's observation and bringing it to my direct attention that I became 
aware of the error. The QUANTA Magazine is generally proof-read by a 
number of people before printing (including All the Dilwyns) but on this 
occasion the shortage of time and other commitments of the others 
prevented this from happening.


Having corrected the eMag versions, they will be despatched later this 
afternoon


Thanks for your understanding and again our sincere apology for the error,

Sarah and John Gilpin

QUANTA Hon. Chairman and Treasurer.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Dilwyn Jones]

There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the
AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has
delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take
their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents will
be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before
the meeting.
If anyone wants a copy of the missing document to study in advance of 
the AGM, would it be possible for you to email or post a copy on 
request to members, for example?


Dilwyn Jones (all of the clones). 




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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Dilwyn Jones]

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for 
the
AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which 
has

delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take
their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents 
will
be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them 
before

the meeting.
If anyone wants a copy of the missing document to study in advance 
of

the AGM, would it be possible for you to email or post a copy on
request to members, for example?

Dilwyn Jones (all of the clones).

Oops, that was meant to go direct to John, sorry.

Dilwyn Jones (the guilty one) 




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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Rich Mellor]

On 22/03/2011 12:52, John Gilpin wrote:
out 6 years, hoping that a person would volunteer to take on this very 
exacting role - literally jumped into the deep end early in February 
and (with a little assistance) produced a very creditable issue, only 
to find that she had so much material left to publish - including all 
the AGM reports etc - with very little time to prepare it all. It is 
regrettable, although not altogether unexpected, that a mistake in 
some form would occur as a result of the shortage of time and Sarah's 
inexperience as an editor. Please accept our sincere apologies for 
this error.


There is very little we can do to correct this error in time for the 
AGM except that the eMag versions have now been corrected (which has 
delayed their despatching to those members who have opted to take 
their Magazine in this format). Extra copies of these documents will 
be made available at the AGM for those wishing to peruse them before 
the meeting.


I am not surprised that it was the previous Treasurer (John Taylor) 
who spotted this error but I need to point out that without Dilwyn 
seeing John's observation and bringing it to my direct attention that 
I became aware of the error. The QUANTA Magazine is generally 
proof-read by a number of people before printing (including All the 
Dilwyns) but on this occasion the shortage of time and other 
commitments of the others prevented this from happening. 


There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to 
approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members 
before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those 
members who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise 
their proxy votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they 
will have voted to approve something they have not seen.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[gdgqler]

On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote:

 There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve 
 the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the 
 AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally 
 receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not 
 count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve 
 something they have not seen.

I agree. But there is something else as well.

The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting 
unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. 
Is this deliberate?  Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR.

More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for 
resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no 
amount set for the new Subscription Rate?

I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of 
us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the 
magazine. If not, what is it?

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Rich Mellor]

On 22/03/2011 14:51, gdgqler wrote:

On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote:


There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve 
the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM 
- it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally 
receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not 
count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something 
they have not seen.

I agree. But there is something else as well.

The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting 
unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. 
Is this deliberate?  Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR.

More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for 
resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no 
amount set for the new Subscription Rate?

I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of 
us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the 
magazine. If not, what is it?

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I can't comment, as I have not yet received a copy of the Quanta 
magazine / proxy form, to know what the wording is for resolutions 6 and 7.


There does not have to be a need to vote against a committee member's 
election - you don't get the chance in a local / national election after 
all !!


You just vote for the people you want on the committee, and if there are 
10 nominees and 5 places, then the 5 with the most votes get the places...


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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[gdgqler]

On 22 Mar 2011, at 14:59, Rich Mellor wrote:

 On 22/03/2011 14:51, gdgqler wrote:
 On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote:
 
 There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to 
 approve the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members 
 before the AGM - it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members 
 who normally receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy 
 votes could not count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted 
 to approve something they have not seen.
 I agree. But there is something else as well.
 
 The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting 
 unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee 
 members. Is this deliberate?  Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR.
 
 More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for 
 resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is 
 no amount set for the new Subscription Rate?
 
 I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all 
 of us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in 
 the magazine. If not, what is it?
 
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 I can't comment, as I have not yet received a copy of the Quanta magazine / 
 proxy form, to know what the wording is for resolutions 6 and 7.
 
 There does not have to be a need to vote against a committee member's 
 election - you don't get the chance in a local / national election after all 
 !!
 
 You just vote for the people you want on the committee, and if there are 10 
 nominees and 5 places, then the 5 with the most votes get the places...
 


I am looking at the Proxy Form for AstraZeneca PLC.This has, as resolution 5, 
the election or re-election of  11 directors for which there are 11 places. 
There are three boxes for each candidate. The first is labelled For, the second 
Against and the third Vote Withheld.  The same should hold for QUANTA!

The whole point about elections is that the members can express their opinion. 
In extreme cases it can happen that a candidate  is not elected because there 
are more votes Against than For. After all that is what democracy is supposed 
to be about.

George

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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Rich Mellor]

On 22/03/2011 15:13, gdgqler wrote:

On 22 Mar 2011, at 14:59, Rich Mellor wrote:


On 22/03/2011 14:51, gdgqler wrote:

On 22 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Rich Mellor wrote:


There is more of an issue here - as one of the resolutions will be to approve 
the accounts, the balance sheet HAS to be circulated to members before the AGM 
- it will need to be posted unfortunately, to those members who normally 
receive a postal copy of the magazine - otherwise their proxy votes could not 
count on approval of the accounts, as they will have voted to approve something 
they have not seen.

I agree. But there is something else as well.

The proxy form, which I will have to use because I can't attend the meeting 
unfortunately, has no boxes for votes against electing the Committee members. 
Is this deliberate?  Luckily there are boxes for votes FOR.

More alarmingly, there are no boxes at all for Resolutions 6 and 7. As for 
resolution 6 how can one decide whether to vote for or against if there is no 
amount set for the new Subscription Rate?

I would hope that at least the suggested new rate could be e-mailed to all of 
us on this list. If is the rate suggested by the Treasurer then it is in the 
magazine. If not, what is it?

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I can't comment, as I have not yet received a copy of the Quanta magazine / 
proxy form, to know what the wording is for resolutions 6 and 7.

There does not have to be a need to vote against a committee member's election 
- you don't get the chance in a local / national election after all !!

You just vote for the people you want on the committee, and if there are 10 
nominees and 5 places, then the 5 with the most votes get the places...



I am looking at the Proxy Form for AstraZeneca PLC.This has, as resolution 5, 
the election or re-election of  11 directors for which there are 11 places. 
There are three boxes for each candidate. The first is labelled For, the second 
Against and the third Vote Withheld.  The same should hold for QUANTA!

The whole point about elections is that the members can express their opinion. 
In extreme cases it can happen that a candidate  is not elected because there 
are more votes Against than For. After all that is what democracy is supposed 
to be about.

George

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I do tend to agree with this point, as it does allow for the dismissal 
of directors - however, the constitution is silent, and this should form 
part of the discussion about the constitution at the AGM.


Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[gdgqler]

On 22 Mar 2011, at 15:17, Rich Mellor wrote:

 
 I do tend to agree with this point, as it does allow for the dismissal of 
 directors - however, the constitution is silent, and this should form part of 
 the discussion about the constitution at the AGM.
 

Clause 8.13 of the QUANTA Constitution says

To elect members of the Committee.

That is quite sufficient to imply that members can vote for, against or abstain.

 Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election?

In Scotland in some cases you can't even vote for a particular candidate. All 
you can do is vote for a political party.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Dilwyn Jones]

Rich Mellor wrote:

Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national
election? 


It doesn't matter who you vote for or against in national elections.

A government always gets in ;-)

Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[David Tubbs]

At 15:26 22/03/2011 +, you wrote:

 Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election?


You can, it's called tactical voting


I am unlikely to see the agenda for the AGM, is there an item :-

When and in which brewery to hild the next piss0up

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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine Error.

[Geoff Wicks]

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Wouldn't it be nice if you could vote against MPs in a national election?



One part of the proposed coalition's electoral reforms is for constituents 
to have the power to petition to boot out their MP's.


Mind you Quanta made a prize boob in the 2006 printed version of the 
constitution. Clause 5.3 had some words missing which meant that when an 
officer was elected to the committee, he or she was elected for life.


And guess which anti-Quanta individual spotted this and pointed it out to 
the committee,


Best Wishes,


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[Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine

[John Gilpin]

 The latest issue of QUANTA Magazine Vol 27 Iss 4 has also been posted 
today. Not such a bumper issue this time due to lack of content!! Sorry.


No sign of QLToday yet in the UK.

Regards,

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[Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine.

[John Gilpin]

Hi all,

Please note that as QUANTA are in the process of changing editors for 
the Magazine will you please send ALL contributions to:-


editor AT quanta dot org dot uk

This will ensure that your contributions get to the editor who is 
handling the current issue.


Thanks,

John Gilpin.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1

[Billy]

John Gilpin wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Firstly, thank you to those readers of QUANTA Magazine who have said how 
much they have enjoyed the latest issues. 


I agree - best for a long time

My envelope was tattered and torn along the bottom - just to be different!

I have recently cancelled my standing order for my subscription, I got a 
bit mixed up between standing order and payment by Card ( I think I may 
have been doing both for a while ) and now thinking about it I think I 
no longer pay by card ( don't use credit cards these days just debit)
Anyway I'll clear the matter up with the membership guru and use the 
paypal thingy.


All the best - Bill
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1

[Go Boy Go(lt)]

Hi John (Gilpin)

Thanks for your work with QUANTA

Re your:
Please keep me informed of this
problem over the next few issues - whether yours is damaged OR NOT (to get
some idea of balance) - it may be worth asking the PO to investigate.

My envelopes suffer from extensive fatigue along all/any edge.  I.e. in 
transit, they

are randomly 'worn through' where they were folded in manufacture.  However
nothing has been lost (yet!?).

--
Re your:
... the labelling has recently been changed to enable better printing on the
Desk Jet rather than the old Dot Matrix which is coming towards the end of
its useful life - don't we all!?!?


I'll hazard a guess that, as a result,  label printing costs have gone up.
If not significantly THEN GOTO STOP.
If significantly; I can offer QUANTA an hardly used 24pin ESC/P2 Epson
LQ-100+ (with documentation etc) free for this purpose.  Ribbons are current
on-line sales item.  I just checked!

Nice to be back,

John in Wales

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1

[Dilwyn Jones]

Secondly, I am concerned about the damaged envelopes which some of you are
getting. In order to minimise costs, I buy these envelopes in bulk, and it
takes about 7 issues to use the quantity. It may be that the self sealing
adhesive dries out during this period as I have noticed that occasionally
I get one which will not seal at all - I use additional sellotape in these
circumstances. I shall watch for this problem and maybe have to use
sellotape on ALL of them just to make sure. The flap may become stuck in
the Post Office machinery which could be causing the damage although some
have commented that the envelope is slit open across the sealed flap (and
not that the flap is missing altogether.) Please keep me informed of this
problem over the next few issues - whether yours is damaged OR NOT (to get
some idea of balance) - it may be worth asking the PO to investigate.

My copy was torn down the length of the envelope, rather than on the
edhesive end as you described. Not a clean cut, more like someone had ripped
it open with their finger. It's not the first time it's happened, but we're
used to packets arriving like this in the post around our way so wasn't
particularly concerned. I still have the envelope if you'd like to see it.


Rest assured that each envelope leaves here in good condition and the
labelling has recently been changed to enable better printing on the Desk
Jet rather than the old Dot Matrix which is coming towards the end of its
useful life - don't we all!?!?

Yes, the label printing is much better quality

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1

[Malcolm Cadman]

In message 1a87f0d05cab4157abbe53f602068...@pandorasbox, John Gilpin 
thegilp...@btinternet.com writes


Hi John,

Thanks for the reply, and do keep up the good work on the Quanta 
magazine.


With regard to the brown envelopes, it does seem a common problem.

My envelope was stamped at 25.02.09 Manchester 08.17pm  44003704 - blue 
Second Class stamp UK post.


The slit may have been caused by the sorting machine, and the general 
crumpling; as well as the final transport in the postie's bag.


Maybe you can consider a slightly stronger envelope with a semi-gloss 
finish to it, to be more resistant of the mailing process.


In the general mail that I receive this is the only posting that is 
regularly arriving in a damaged state.


The one for the previous Issue had arrived in a plastic covering with a 
standard apology note from the Post Office for the damaged contents of 
the package.


PS - The new label is much clearer than the previous dot matrix



Hi Everyone,

Firstly, thank you to those readers of QUANTA Magazine who have said 
how much they have enjoyed the latest issues. I still have much to 
learn about the editing side of the publication but I am very pleased 
to hear that I am moving in the right direction. Your comments are 
important to us if we are to provide quality services from QUANTA. 
Please keep them coming.


Secondly, I am concerned about the damaged envelopes which some of you 
are getting. In order to minimise costs, I buy these envelopes in bulk, 
and it takes about 7 issues to use the quantity. It may be that the 
self sealing adhesive dries out during this period as I have noticed 
that occasionally I get one which will not seal at all - I use 
additional sellotape in these circumstances. I shall watch for this 
problem and maybe have to use sellotape on ALL of them just to make 
sure. The flap may become stuck in the Post Office machinery which 
could be causing the damage although some have commented that the 
envelope is slit open across the sealed flap (and not that the flap is 
missing altogether.) Please keep me informed of this problem over the 
next few issues - whether yours is damaged OR NOT (to get some idea of 
balance) - it may be worth asking the PO to investigate.


Rest assured that each envelope leaves here in good condition and the 
labelling has recently been changed to enable better printing on the 
Desk Jet rather than the old Dot Matrix which is coming towards the end 
of its useful life - don't we all!?!?


Cheers,

John Gilpin.
Joint QUANTA Editor.


- Original Message - From: Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1



Hi Malcolm,

I received the Friday 27th February 2009 the Quanta magazine Volume 
26,  Issue 1, for February / March 2009.

I received it as well.

Yes, well done - and I prefer to see the ads in full page mode again -
excellent decision. And up-to-date :-)

One other point.  Is anyone else experiencing a poor quality with 
the brown envelope used for the posting of the magazine.

Yes, for quite a while already.

My Issue, once again has arrived in a very crumpled envelope, with 
an open slit along the entire top edge ( although the magazine was 
still inside ).  Is this only effecting the London area in the UK ? 
As another London Group member has had a similar experience with the 
envelope packaging being used, arriving in crumpled state.

This is how nearly all issues arrive for a while.

Jochen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1

[Jochen Merz]

Hi Malcolm,

I received the Friday 27th February 2009 the Quanta magazine Volume 26, 
Issue 1, for February / March 2009.

I received it as well.

Yes, well done - and I prefer to see the ads in full page mode again -
excellent decision. And up-to-date :-)

One other point.  Is anyone else experiencing a poor quality with the 
brown envelope used for the posting of the magazine.

Yes, for quite a while already.

My Issue, once again has arrived in a very crumpled envelope, with an 
open slit along the entire top edge ( although the magazine was still 
inside ).  Is this only effecting the London area in the UK ?  As 
another London Group member has had a similar experience with the 
envelope packaging being used, arriving in crumpled state.

This is how nearly all issues arrive for a while.

Jochen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[gdgqler]

On 4 Feb 2009, at 20:32, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I hope everyone will be able to appreciate that John Gilpin has done  
remarkable work with the magazine (he also holds two other committee  
posts!).


I certainly agree.

Well done.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[Geoff Wicks]

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk

To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6



Geoff Wicks wrote:




Actually, in the months I've been on the committee I've started to
appreciate how much work goes on that as a member I hadn't previously
realised.

I gave praise to John Gilpin in particular, but everyone on the committee
works very hard and everyone is very commtted in what they do.



For all the criticisms I make of the Quanta committee I have to agree with 
this. We have one of the most hardworking committees that Quanta has ever 
had and their work is unappreciated by the members.


Another major rankle. As secretary Sarah Gilpin has vastly improved the 
record keeping of the organisation. At two AGM's running I have proposed a 
vote of thanks to her. Not one person at either meeting backed me up.


Then why am I critical of the committee? Because they have also been 
probably the most authoritarian, autocratic and dishonest officers that 
Quanta has ever had,


Best wishes,


Geoff 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[Malcolm Cadman]

In message 69b5161c76404f94a704ef44cc6b9...@pandorasbox, John Gilpin 
thegilp...@btinternet.com writes


Hi John,

Thanks for the explanation.

Obviously this will be one for the stamp collectors who like to get 
ones with some kind of error or misprint, etc ... :-)


Again well done to all concerned for getting out such a good Issue, 
containing both articles and pictures / illustrations in abundance.


I do appreciate what goes in to the production.

Maybe, with the envelope, it had come unstuck, and hence the plastic 
packaging with apology from the Post Office when it arrived.




Hi Malcolm,

Congratulations on being the first one to spot this issue's 
deliberate mistake!!


I cannot account for the damaged envelope (although I have noticed that 
a small number of them - all from the same box) has a tendency not to 
stick very well. In fact on one or two of them, I actually reverted to 
sellotape.


Regarding the Issue number, this is more of a problem:

There should be, as you know, SIX issues per Volume. One could argue 
either of the following:-


1)Due to editorial problems - covered adequately elsewhere - there 
were only FIVE issues to Volume 25 so the last one should be Issue 5

OR
2)As this is the last issue of Volume 25, it should be issue 6.

To be really honest, it is a typo which none of the team picked up in 
proof reading and I offer my apologies for any confusion caused.


Thank you for your welcome comments about the content etc and most of 
all, for correctly identifying the fact that it is a TEAM EFFORT. 
Without the rest of the TEAM, I would have given up a long time ago. I 
have been offered - and receive - much support from everyone at QUANTA 
(including the membership) and that makes it all worth while.


Thank you - and others for your kind comments. They are much appreciated.

Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Joint Magazine Editor.


- Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman 
q...@mcad.demon.co.uk

To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:33 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6



Hi,

I have received today - 4th February 2009 - the Quanta magazine 
Volume 25,  Issue 6, which covers Nov/Dec 2008/Jan 2009.


It is a good read, so well done to everyone involved.

However, I did notice that it arrived in a very battered envelope 
with an apology from the Post Office.  I do not know if there is any 
reason for this.


Also, the previous magazine was Volume 25, Issue 4, Aug/Sept/Oct 2008.

Which suggests that an Issue 5 has been missed out.

I know that with the delays in the magazine production this may be 
deliberate.  Yet it will also confuse any collectors of the magazine 
in the future.


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[Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[Malcolm Cadman]

Hi,

I have received today - 4th February 2009 - the Quanta magazine Volume 
25, Issue 6, which covers Nov/Dec 2008/Jan 2009.


It is a good read, so well done to everyone involved.

However, I did notice that it arrived in a very battered envelope with 
an apology from the Post Office.  I do not know if there is any reason 
for this.


Also, the previous magazine was Volume 25, Issue 4, Aug/Sept/Oct 2008.

Which suggests that an Issue 5 has been missed out.

I know that with the delays in the magazine production this may be 
deliberate.  Yet it will also confuse any collectors of the magazine in 
the future.


--
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[Geoff Wicks]

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk

To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6


I hope everyone will be able to appreciate that John Gilpin has done 
remarkable work with the magazine (he also holds two other committee 
posts!).




How many Quanta members have so far publically expressed their appreciation 
for John's work on the magazine? Answer: just five, one of whom is a 
mischievous person who continually dimishes himself (©JM 2008).


Why is is that we QL-ers find it so difficult to praise people who do 
something well?


It still rankles me that, when Dilwyn resigned as editor of QL Today after 9 
years of hard work, only one reader wrote to say thank you.


Best wishes,


Geoff 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[Dilwyn Jones]

Geoff Wicks wrote:

It still rankles me that, when Dilwyn resigned as editor of QL Today after
9 years of hard work, only one reader wrote to say thank you.


What, for resigning, or for 9 years of work?
;-))

Actually, in the months I've been on the committee I've started to
appreciate how much work goes on that as a member I hadn't previously
realised.

I gave praise to John Gilpin in particular, but everyone on the committee
works very hard and everyone is very commtted in what they do.

--
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6

[John Gilpin]

Hi Malcolm,

Congratulations on being the first one to spot this issue's deliberate 
mistake!!


I cannot account for the damaged envelope (although I have noticed that a 
small number of them - all from the same box) has a tendency not to stick 
very well. In fact on one or two of them, I actually reverted to sellotape.


Regarding the Issue number, this is more of a problem:

There should be, as you know, SIX issues per Volume. One could argue either 
of the following:-


1)Due to editorial problems - covered adequately elsewhere - there were 
only FIVE issues to Volume 25 so the last one should be Issue 5

OR
2)As this is the last issue of Volume 25, it should be issue 6.

To be really honest, it is a typo which none of the team picked up in proof 
reading and I offer my apologies for any confusion caused.


Thank you for your welcome comments about the content etc and most of all, 
for correctly identifying the fact that it is a TEAM EFFORT. Without the 
rest of the TEAM, I would have given up a long time ago. I have been 
offered - and receive - much support from everyone at QUANTA (including the 
membership) and that makes it all worth while.


Thank you - and others for your kind comments. They are much appreciated.

Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Joint Magazine Editor.


- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk

To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:33 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 6



Hi,

I have received today - 4th February 2009 - the Quanta magazine Volume 25, 
Issue 6, which covers Nov/Dec 2008/Jan 2009.


It is a good read, so well done to everyone involved.

However, I did notice that it arrived in a very battered envelope with an 
apology from the Post Office.  I do not know if there is any reason for 
this.


Also, the previous magazine was Volume 25, Issue 4, Aug/Sept/Oct 2008.

Which suggests that an Issue 5 has been missed out.

I know that with the delays in the magazine production this may be 
deliberate.  Yet it will also confuse any collectors of the magazine in 
the future.


--
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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine

[Norman Dunbar]

Evening Geoff,

 PS Please forgive the levity of the email, but today is a very special
 day. As a sign of respect to our two Scottish QL Today writers I had a
 rather large wee dram with my haggis, tatties and neeps.

Now, who could they be I wonder?

Cheers,
Norman.

PS. Full of finest Scotch beef and kidney!
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 4

[Geoff Wicks]

- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones dilwyn.jo...@tesco.net

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 4


If you have opted to receive the Quanta magazine as a PDF via email, there 
is a roundabout way of extracting the listing, since QL basic programs are 
essentially plain text. Just use the text selection tool in the PDF reader 
and copy he text to a file. You may have to tidy it up a little by hand 
(e.g. to remove blank lines or page breaks), but it is possible to save 
typing time until the listing appears on the website.




You can also OCR the programs - easier with the Quanta Magazine than QL 
Today. I often do it when I have to look at a basic program in an old issue 
of QL Today. Inevitably there are a few mistakes, but it is still quicker 
than typing a program in,


Best wishes,


Geoff 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 4

[Geoff Wicks]

- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Cadman q...@mcad.demon.co.uk

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 4



Hi,

I received my copy on 15th January 2009 of the Quanta magazine, Volume 25, 
Issue 4.


Although late, due to Editorial issues. That have already been 
acknowledged.  I must congratulate John Gilpin, the Editor, and the 
Contributors; for producing a very interesting Issue of the magazine.




Just a comment on the lateness of the magazine.

When you have a committee that has been seriously undermanned for as long as 
three years, then there is no slack left in the system and when a crisis 
arises the chances are it will be a serious one.


The magazine contains the nomination forms - and these can also be 
downloaded from the website - and this is a good time for all members to 
think about the contribution they can make to Quanta.


More provocatively perhaps my many critics now have a chance to prove how 
much they really care for Quanta,


Best Wishes,


Geoff



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine - Volume 25, Issue 4

[Dilwyn Jones]

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
This Issue also benefits from having few long program listings. Listings 
are OK if they are relatively short.  However, both the short and the 
longer listings are prone to printing and transcription errors. So, better 
if supplied on a media of some type every now and again; or downloadable 
from the Quanta web site.
If you have opted to receive the Quanta magazine as a PDF via email, there 
is a roundabout way of extracting the listing, since QL basic programs are 
essentially plain text. Just use the text selection tool in the PDF reader 
and copy he text to a file. You may have to tidy it up a little by hand 
(e.g. to remove blank lines or page breaks), but it is possible to save 
typing time until the listing appears on the website.


--
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine (was Room Rates at Allesley Hotel)

[Geoff Wicks]

- Original Message - 
From: Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com

To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine (was Room Rates at Allesley Hotel)





Under the constitution volume 26 issue 1 has to be with members before 29th 
March 2009 and you cannot start work on the AGM items until after 
nominations close on 1st February 2009.


Sorry everyone, that should have been 22nd March 2009,

Best Wishes,


Geoff



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[Geoff Wicks]

You have our sympathy from QL Today. We know how it feels to deliver a 
magazine late to the readers.


As I mentioned in an earlier email you have also had similar problems in 
your scout duties and are grossly overworked at the moment.


I hope all Quanta members will be patient and understanding and learn a 
lesson from this. John Gilpin is the linchpin of Quanta. Many of his duties 
involve a specialist knowledge so it is not easy for someone to step in and 
help him out temporarily.


This was a crisis that was waiting to happen and was inevitable when for 
three years you have had a seriously undermanned committee.


Best Wishes,


Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Magazine


In an effort to avoid any erroneous Grapevine comments causing concern 
to QUANTA Members (and others) I am making the following statement on 
behalf of the current QUANTA Committee:-


Due to not receiving any response to communications sent to our new 
Magazine Editor - Tony Hill - over a now considerable period, this 
committee have asked John Gilpin - QUANTA Treasurer and Membership 
Secretary - to stand in again as Joint Magazine editor until (at least) 
the AGM in April 2009. The other Joint Editor's position will remain with 
John Mason.


In order to notify you all of details for the forthcoming Celebration 
Workshop and AGM in April 2009, John G has agreed to publish Quanta 
Magazines for August/September/October 2008, (a three month's issue), and 
November/December 2008/January 2009 (another three month's issue). This 
will bring us up to the end of Volume 25. He has also agreed to publish a 
Magazine for February/March 2009 which will be our Celebration Issue - 
QUANTA will be 25 years old in February 2009.





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[Malcolm Cadman]

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Gilpin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes


Hi John,

Thanks for the message, and good luck in keeping the Quanta Magazine 
together.


Your personal effort is recognised and appreciated.


In an effort to avoid any erroneous Grapevine comments causing 
concern to QUANTA Members (and others) I am making the following 
statement on behalf of the current QUANTA Committee:-


Due to not receiving any response to communications sent to our new 
Magazine Editor - Tony Hill - over a now considerable period, this 
committee have asked John Gilpin - QUANTA Treasurer and Membership 
Secretary - to stand in again as Joint Magazine editor until (at least) 
the AGM in April 2009. The other Joint Editor's position will remain 
with John Mason.


In order to notify you all of details for the forthcoming Celebration 
Workshop and AGM in April 2009, John G has agreed to publish Quanta 
Magazines for August/September/October 2008, (a three month's issue), 
and November/December 2008/January 2009 (another three month's issue). 
This will bring us up to the end of Volume 25. He has also agreed to 
publish a Magazine for February/March 2009 which will be our 
Celebration Issue - QUANTA will be 25 years old in February 2009.


End of Statement.

Having resigned the position of Joint Editor in April 2008, I was able 
to take on other personal commitments which have been on the back 
burner for some considerable time. I was asked by Tony Hill to help out 
with the April/May 2008 issue due to his sickness and I found it very 
demanding with my new found commitments. When no response was received 
from Tony regarding the June/July 2008 issue, I once again squeezed 
another issue into my overcrowded schedule albeit published nearly two 
months late!! The situation seems to be ongoing and if QUANTA Members 
are to receive their Magazines on time and of a reasonable quality, a 
new Magazine Editor MUST BE FOUND by April 2009 as I cannot guarantee 
my time to continue to do this job after that date. Nominations should 
be sent to:- Sarah Gilpin - QUANTA Secretary as soon as possible 
please. All possible advice and support will be given to any new applicant.


In the meantime, please bear with me while I try to get the information 
together for the next issue which I hope will be published by the end 
of this month (November 2008). Any material for inclusion into that 
issue (or any future issue) should be sent to me, John Gilpin - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or by post to the address inside the front cover 
of previous issues of QUANTA Magazine.


Thank you all for your perseverance and co-operation.

Kind regards,

John Gilpin - QUANTA Joint Editor (still!!)
On behalf of both myself and the QUANTA Committee.


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Re: [ql-users] Quanta magazine.

[John Gilpin]

F.A.O. John Taylor

Following a database crash (complete corruption of the Quanta Membership 
records) in early March, I used a backup copy from the year end 2006 and 
went through all the renewals received this year to bring it up to date. I 
am sorry that I completely forgot about your change of address which I have 
now updated (again) and your next magazine should go to your new address. I 
have also picked up your new email address from your recent mailing. Is your 
telephone number still the same as it was before your move?

Quite honestly, I'm surprised that you are the only one to report a magazine 
delivery problem.

Thanks for letting me know so promptly.

Regards,

John Gilpin
QUANTA Membership Secretary.


- Original Message - 
From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: QLUsers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: [ql-users] Quanta magazine.


 F.A.O.   John Gilpin

 The magazine is still going to my old address and you claimed to have
 altered it.

 John Taylor.


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[ql-users] Quanta Magazine

[John Taylor]

QL is 2!   (See page two of Quanta)
I can see why they used an exclamation mark, no one thought it would 
last that long.


John Taylor.

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