Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-12 Thread Michael Berger
Hello! recently Wolfgang Mühlegger pointed my attention to the excellent Keywords/Concepts documents by Martin Head.which can be found on Dylwin's QL documentation site. I am really VERY enthusiastic about those documents! This is the first time I find all required information about QL + TK2 +

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-11 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: John Gilpin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book? In my copy there is a preface to the second edition dated 19th July 1989 and at the foot of that page there is a Copyright Notice

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-10 Thread John Gilpin
- Original Message - From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book? Tim Why it says Copyright 1989 Quanta I don't know, in fact all the reprints were dated 1989 as no one amended

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-10 Thread John Gilpin
- Original Message - From: john mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users-q-v-d.com@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book? On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 + - John Taylor said - John You are wrong. Quanta does not own

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-02 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes  Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:44:07 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: clip I stopped it when SMSQ/e was on V.3.00 because of lack of time and relevant documentation. I can complete it if

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-02 Thread Timothy Swenson
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:42:10 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, sorry to mail this here... but did you get my email? If you did, did you try and answer? My server has a spamfilter and you need to reply to the first email that the filter will send you to register yourself with

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-02 Thread Jérôme Grimbert
David Tubbs wrote: At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! Just spotted 'FLP_STEP' entry is present twice, but I'm guessing the first one should be read 'FLP_STOP'. You're welcome. By the way, is anybody

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-02 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 08:10:38 +0100,() Jrme Grimbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: If you really want to achieve the same look, you have a long way to go for the model. Not really ;-) There are easier ways as I demonstated to Marcel. My complete QL Manual stylesheet clone (and almost perfect- it

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-01 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Phoebus Dokos wrote: This does not necessarily mean that he has not left the scene, because the website is so old that it doesn't even recognize browsers different from Netscape 3.0 of higher ;-)) Maybe so, but Thierry's website entry addresses have remained the same since 1996 (which is not

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-01 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Phoebus Dokos wrote: By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:44:07 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-01 Thread Timothy Swenson
Another option in the SuperBasic book issue, is to write one from scratch. Wasn't there a series of articles in QL Today on beginning SuperBasic? If so, we could use that as a start (if the author is willing) and go from there. Heck, a number of people could be volunteer to write chapters

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2005-01-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:29:42 -0800,() Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Another option in the SuperBasic book issue, is to write one from scratch. Wasn't there a series of articles in QL Today on beginning SuperBasic? If so, we could use that as a start (if the author is willing)

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
Nope, his website has moved here: URL:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/ This does not necessarily mean that he has not left the scene, because the website is so old that it doesn't even recognize browsers different from Netscape 3.0 of higher ;-)) Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:32:11 +0100,() Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Nope, his website has moved here: URL:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/ This does not necessarily mean that he has not left the scene, because the website is so old that it doesn't even recognize browsers different from

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Rich Mellor wrote: The problem is deleting or updating old links - there are still plenty of sites which point at my old website - I try to inform them and get them updated, but in many cases, it is impossible. Many of the updates can only be done by Thierry - and he does not have a lot of

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (BTW-what does the R stand for?) Phoebe, That is a female version of my name ;-) Last time I checked I was male (of course the hair... well until recently could throw some off track but me and Roy know better don't we Roy?) :-) Same problem, for some reason some

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:30 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (BTW-what does the R stand for?) As per Greek convention our middle initial stands for our father's first name. In this case it is Phoebus Romylus Dokos (or to be more precise, Phoebus Dokos,

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:11:10 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Imagine you been called Divad (or Vlade Divac for that matter ;-) -or other obvious anagrams ;-) Hey, Phoebus, David is rather close to Dafad or Davad in Welsh, which means sheep... Or one could play a little anagram

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (BTW-what does the R stand for?) As per Greek convention our middle initial stands for our father's first name. In this case it is Phoebus Romylus Dokos (or to be more precise, Phoebus Dokos, son of Romylus :-) Hmmm. So my equivalent would be Dilwyn ap Ifor Jones (or ab

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-28 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:44:07 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (BTW-what does the R stand for?) As per Greek convention our middle initial stands for our father's first name. In this case it is Phoebus Romylus Dokos (or to be more precise, Phoebus Dokos,

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 02:59:09 +, David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 20:33 26/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread David Tubbs
At 05:16 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Marcel Nice one, danke ! Noch eine Dilwyn URL ! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:06:15 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: At 05:16 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Marcel Nice one, danke ! Noch eine Dilwyn URL ! That is partly true. That old URL is something I was working on (and it

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Marcel Kilgus
David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:56:10 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes  Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread David Tubbs
At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:13:33 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread David Tubbs
Phoebe, That is a female version of my name ;-) Last time I checked I was male (of course the hair... well until recently could throw some off track but me and Roy know better don't we Roy?) :-) My name has been btw abused so much that I seriously think of reverting back to the

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +, David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated The problem is deleting or updating old links - there are still plenty of sites which point at my old website - I try

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip Gothcher, hook line and sinker ! My you do go on about it ! You would do if your name was beaten down to a pulp over the years... Of course the Pheobus spelling has evolved to a Sturat and Ql-Toady but the rest

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:15:23 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cut I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated That would be good if I could actually access that damn account.. it turns out that I cannot :-( So there's nothing I

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread David Tubbs
At 17:15 27/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: Την Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +,ο(η) David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε/wrote: snip Gothcher, hook line and sinker ! My you do go on about it ! You would do if your name was beaten down to a pulp over the years... Of course the Pheobus spelling has

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:53:31 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip I tried from there several times recently, tho' now updated ! Not so in Duisburg. Well Jochen is busy as it is... be glad he does have a website :-). Given the shows, the schedule, the magazine etc it's a miracle

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-26 Thread David Tubbs
Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back OCR results for assembling into an HTML document ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-26 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back OCR results for assembling into an HTML document

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-26 Thread Marcel Kilgus
David Tubbs wrote: My own copy has been lost in removings, I have been looking for something that would just list basic keywords with syntax. Allwats meant to do it for myself in a form that one could cutpaste from. Even visited major resource site http://www.ql.50megs.com/ - no luck yet !

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-25 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:29:42 -,() hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Re Tim's: One stumbling block for me was how to do the graphic drawings in Word. So, the project just came to a halt. . If the problem is simply one of WORD

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-24 Thread Dave P
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Timothy Swenson wrote: Copyright 1989 Quanta This is from the Quanta Reprint Limited Edition of July 1989. If Quanta does not own the copyright, then why did Quanta state that it does, in the book. It's a copyright on a different thing to Jan Jones' copyright. She

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-24 Thread John Taylor
Tim Why it says Copyright 1989 Quanta I don't know, in fact all the reprints were dated 1989 as no one amended it. The fact remains, copyright is with Jan Jones. If Quanta had bought the copyright there would have been no need to make repeated payments to Jan Jones. In any case I feel this

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-23 Thread john mason
I notice that Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Friday 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, suggested that consideration be given to a further reprint of QL SuperBASIC by Jan Jones - Sounds a good idea in principle, and I am quite willing to cause it to be investigated; but until the likely order

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-23 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:28:31 -,() john mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I notice that Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Friday 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, suggested that consideration be given to a further reprint of QL SuperBASIC by Jan Jones - Sounds a good idea in principle, and I am

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-23 Thread John Taylor
John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. The agreement was that Quanta had permission to print additional copies in return for a royalty based on the number printed and not on the number sold. Any other form of publication would require a new

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-23 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 +,() John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. The agreement was that Quanta had permission to print additional copies in return for a royalty based on the number

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-23 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:13:31 -0500,() Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: That's what I figured (the copyright matter) however all this doesn't change the fact that the basis of reprinting on a one-off basis from a on-demand printer is not feasible. Of course here I meant : FEASIBLE ;-)

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones
John Mason wrote: I notice that Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Friday 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, suggested that consideration be given to a further reprint of QL SuperBASIC by Jan Jones - Sounds a good idea in principle, and I am quite willing to cause it to be investigated; but until

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-20 Thread Malcolm Lear
Its quite possible that it already exists in Adobe Pagemaker format. Cheers Malcolm Equally we should be realistic about electronic publication. My copy is an original MgGraw-Hill copy and has 257 pages. That would be a huge scanning job and an even worse PDF conversion job. Given that there

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-19 Thread Steven Moore
Yes that's a better solution. Steven Moore Does she have to relinquish copyright at all? All she has to do is to permit (via a licence of some kind) its publication (eg the GPL doesn't remove the authors' copyrights; it just allows for distribution - more than copyright in itself does).

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-18 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:30:47 -0800,() Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:37:28 -, John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-18 Thread Dr Colin F Parsons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Sorry, but Quanta don't own the rights to Jan Jones book. The agreement was that Quanta would be the publisher and we paid Jan Jones a royalty for each book printed. We did two print runs whilst I was treasurer and sold all of them. It would be uneconomic to do another

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-18 Thread Steven Moore
Hello folks, Why not ask the author to relinquish copyright and allow it to be posted, maybe in pdf format. Jan Jones could not have been earning much royalties from this book recently and future sales will be negligible. I am a great believer in people releasing software and literature from

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-18 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:59:51 +,() Steven Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Hello folks, Why not ask the author to relinquish copyright and allow it to be posted, maybe in pdf format. Jan Jones could not have been earning much royalties from this book recently and future sales will be

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-18 Thread Timothy Swenson
It was my impression that when Quanta last printed the book, they owned the rights. My copy was printed in 1989 and it says quite clearly: Copyright 1989 Quanta So, either Quanta does own the rights, or the book I have is wrong. Either way, I think it would be nice to see it published

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-17 Thread John Gilpin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 at 22:18:55, Michael Grunditz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) MG I am looking for a good superbasicbook, I am a real beginner at this. If anyone have some you do not need so mail me. TF It just has to be the Jan Jones book. I haven't a spare copy, but I bet someone

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-17 Thread Timothy Swenson
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:37:28 -, John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones - Quanta Limited Edition. Published by QUANTA ISBN: 0 07 084784 3 Since Quanta owns the rights to the book, is Quanta going to be doing any

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-17 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:30:47 -0800,() Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:37:28 -, John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones - Quanta Limited Edition. Published by QUANTA ISBN: 0 07

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-17 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500,() Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:30:47 -0800,() Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:37:28 -, John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:32:12 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 at 22:18:55, Michael Grunditz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I am looking for a good superbasicbook, I am a real beginner at this.

Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?

2004-12-16 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 at 22:18:55, Michael Grunditz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I am looking for a good superbasicbook, I am a real beginner at this. If anyone have some you do not need so mail me. It just has to be the Jan