Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-05-01 Thread Andrea Carpi
  
Il 30/04/2017 21.01, Peter Graf ha scritto: 

> But unfortunately it
kills the RomDisQ, just like 3.17. So I am not any
> further. Probably
need an even older version.

 The bug, is not that it does not work with
Romdisq, but it does not read the external roms (all of theme).
 SMSQ/E
versions that have this problem do not even work with QUBIDE or other
hardware add-ons.

 In my opinion, a piece of code is missing

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-05-01 Thread Giorgio Garabello
Ok, but is important to fix the problems

Il 01 mag 2017 10:32, "Peter Graf"  ha scritto:

> Hi all,
>
> thanks for your attempts to help. But no more please, I ran out of time
> I can spend with the GoldCard. Changed that QL to SuperGoldCard, where
> the latest SMSQ/E 3.31 "aurora.bin" works with RomDisQ. Thanks Bob for
> confirming this difference to "goldcard.bin".
>
> All the best
> Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-05-01 Thread Peter Graf
Hi all,

thanks for your attempts to help. But no more please, I ran out of time
I can spend with the GoldCard. Changed that QL to SuperGoldCard, where
the latest SMSQ/E 3.31 "aurora.bin" works with RomDisQ. Thanks Bob for
confirming this difference to "goldcard.bin".

All the best
Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Peter Graf
Hi Bob,

> SMSQ/E 3.31 (GoldCard.bin) starts successfully on my QL (issue 6 +SGC).
> The only anomaly so far is that, while the previous 3.13 BOOTs normally  
>  from my ROMdisq, this version forgets about the ROM1_ device it started  
>  from and thus fails to finish the rest of the BOOT program.

Thanks to you and Derek, I found out that your 3.13 "SMSQ.GOLD" was
identical to 3.13 "Aurora.bin", both 255664 bytes long.

That one crashes during boot on both GoldCard QL and Qemulator.

The 3.13 "Gold.bin", 227694 bytes long, does not crash.

But unfortunately it kills the RomDisQ, just like 3.17. So I am not any
further. Probably need an even older version.

Anway thanks for trying to help!
Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Giorgio Garabello
I tried the official site, but I found only the current version.
It would be interesting and useful to be able to download the old versions
as well.

2017-04-30 17:53 GMT+02:00 Peter Graf :

> Hi Giorgio,
>
> > Old versions of SMSQ \ E (executable and source) are available somewhere?
>
> Good question... The only way I found, was to search archive.org.
>
> But I didn't find version 3.13 there, only version 3.17.
>
> Which does not crash in my GoldCard system, but kills RomDisQ.
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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Peter Graf
Hi Giorgio,

> Old versions of SMSQ \ E (executable and source) are available somewhere?

Good question... The only way I found, was to search archive.org.

But I didn't find version 3.13 there, only version 3.17.

Which does not crash in my GoldCard system, but kills RomDisQ.

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Giorgio Garabello
Old versions of SMSQ \ E (executable and source) are available somewhere?

2017-04-30 17:24 GMT+02:00 Peter Graf :

> Bob Spelten wrote:
>
> > I have done some further testing on older GoldCard.bin files.
> > After v3.13 something changed because with the v3.15 the ROMdisq is not
> > initialised anew when the .bin is LRESPR'd. The same for any later
> version
> > (3.19 to 3.31).
>
> Then 3.13 is what I need. As 3.17 does not crash, this will most likely
> work.
>
> > However as Andrea pointed out, it still works for the Aurora.bin.
> > With Aurora.bin v3.31 the QL+SGC+ROMdisq runs the full BOOT from ROM1_.
>
> Crashes for me, but I have a red GoldCard, not a SuperGoldCard.
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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Peter Graf
Bob Spelten wrote:

> I have done some further testing on older GoldCard.bin files.
> After v3.13 something changed because with the v3.15 the ROMdisq is not  
> initialised anew when the .bin is LRESPR'd. The same for any later version  
> (3.19 to 3.31).

Then 3.13 is what I need. As 3.17 does not crash, this will most likely
work.

> However as Andrea pointed out, it still works for the Aurora.bin.
> With Aurora.bin v3.31 the QL+SGC+ROMdisq runs the full BOOT from ROM1_.

Crashes for me, but I have a red GoldCard, not a SuperGoldCard.
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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Peter Graf
Andrea Carpi wrote:

> I tried "aurora.bin" on a standard QL with Gold Card
> and regularly boot from my romdisq 

Was that the latest version? For me both "aurora.bin" and "GoldCard.bin"
crash in 3.31 on standard GoldCard with RomDisQ.

While the 3.17 version of "GoldCard.bin" works.

> My configurations: 
> 
> QL+GC+Romdisq+Hermes

I have QL+GC+Romdisq+ED floppy.

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:18:39 +0200 schreef Andrea Carpi  
:



Il 30/04/2017 13.27, Bob Spelten ha scritto:


Op Sun, 30 Apr 2017 00:57:46 +0200 schreef Peter Graf [1]:


Hi,
was someone else able to boot GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 on a real QL
, not Qemulator?
Tried two machines in vain. GoldCard seems to work okay without
SMSQ/E.

SMSQ/E 3.31 (GoldCard.bin) starts successfully on my QL
(issue 6 +SGC).
The only anomaly so far is that, while the previous 3.13
BOOTs normally from my ROMdisq, this version forgets about the ROM1_
device it started from and thus fails to finish the rest of the BOOT
program.

Bob


I tried "aurora.bin" on a standard QL with Gold Card
and regularly boot from my romdisq

I think that "aurora.bin" is the
only binary working version on every QL hardware, whether with or
without Aurora.

The versions:
Goldcard.bin - doesn't boot from romdisq
or qubide or else Goldcard_256colours.bin - crash

 Aurora.bin works on both Aurora and QL mothboard.
 Also applies to previous versions.


Try like this
My configurations:
QL+GC+Romdisq+Hermes
Aurora+SGC+QUBIDE+SH

Andrea


I have done some further testing on older GoldCard.bin files.
After v3.13 something changed because with the v3.15 the ROMdisq is not  
initialised anew when the .bin is LRESPR'd. The same for any later version  
(3.19 to 3.31).

However as Andrea pointed out, it still works for the Aurora.bin.
With Aurora.bin v3.31 the QL+SGC+ROMdisq runs the full BOOT from ROM1_.

Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Andrea Carpi
  
Il 30/04/2017 13.27, Bob Spelten ha scritto: 

> Op Sun, 30 Apr 2017
00:57:46 +0200 schreef Peter Graf [1]: 
> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> was someone
else able to boot GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 on a real QL, not 
>> Qemulator?

>> 
>> Tried two machines in vain. GoldCard seems to work okay without
SMSQ/E.
> SMSQ/E 3.31 (GoldCard.bin) starts successfully on my QL (issue
6 +SGC). 
> The only anomaly so far is that, while the previous 3.13
BOOTs normally from my ROMdisq, this version forgets about the ROM1_
device it started from and thus fails to finish the rest of the BOOT
program. 
> 
> Bob

I tried "aurora.bin" on a standard QL with Gold Card
and regularly boot from my romdisq 

 I think that "aurora.bin" is the
only binary working version on every QL hardware, whether with or
without Aurora.

The versions:
 Goldcard.bin - doesn't boot from romdisq
or qubide or else
 Goldcard_256colours.bin - crash 

 Aurora.bin works
on both Aurora and QL mothboard.
 Also applies to previous versions.


Try like this 

My configurations: 

QL+GC+Romdisq+Hermes


Aurora+SGC+QUBIDE+SH 

  Andrea  


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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Peter Graf
Bob Spelten wrote:
> Op Sun, 30 Apr 2017 00:57:46 +0200 schreef Peter Graf :
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> was someone else able to boot GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 on a real QL, not
>> Qemulator?
>>
>> Tried two machines in vain. GoldCard seems to work okay without SMSQ/E.
>>
> SMSQ/E 3.31 (GoldCard.bin) starts successfully on my QL (issue 6 +SGC).

On my normal GoldCard, SMSQ/E 3.31 crashes after clearing the screen.
Going back to SMSQ/E 3.17 fixed this.

> The only anomaly so far is that, while the previous 3.13 BOOTs normally  
>  from my ROMdisq, this version forgets about the ROM1_ device it started  
>  from and thus fails to finish the rest of the BOOT program.

This was my next problem. ROMdisq compatibility of SMSQ/E must have
broken much earlier than in the 3.31 version!

In SMSQ/E 3.17, which was at least able to boot on my GoldCard, ROMdisq
was already dead.

Are older SMSQ/E binaries stored somewhere?

It would be very kind if you could email me the SMSQ/E version, on which
ROMdisq still worked.

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Bob Spelten

Op Sun, 30 Apr 2017 00:57:46 +0200 schreef Peter Graf :


Hi,

was someone else able to boot GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 on a real QL, not
Qemulator?

Tried two machines in vain. GoldCard seems to work okay without SMSQ/E.


SMSQ/E 3.31 (GoldCard.bin) starts successfully on my QL (issue 6 +SGC).
The only anomaly so far is that, while the previous 3.13 BOOTs normally  
from my ROMdisq, this version forgets about the ROM1_ device it started  
from and thus fails to finish the rest of the BOOT program.


Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Peter Graf
Hi Alain,

thanks for the feedback. I mean the normal Gold Card, not the Aurora
binary. An older SMSQ/E version still works.

Peter


Am 30.04.2017 um 10:25 schrieb Alain HAOUI:
> Hi Peter,
> Maybe different from your config but on my SGC+Aurora+QL, SMSQ/E 3.31 starts 
> fine with aurora binary.
> Regards,
> Alain
> 
> -Message d'origine-
> De : "Peter Graf" 
> Envoyé : ‎30/‎04/‎2017 00:57
> À : "ql-us...@q-v-d.com" 
> Objet : [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem
> 
> Hi,
> 
> was someone else able to boot GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 on a real QL, not
> Qemulator?
> 
> Tried two machines in vain. GoldCard seems to work okay without SMSQ/E.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter


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Re: [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

2017-04-30 Thread Alain HAOUI
Hi Peter,
Maybe different from your config but on my SGC+Aurora+QL, SMSQ/E 3.31 starts 
fine with aurora binary.
Regards,
Alain

-Message d'origine-
De : "Peter Graf" 
Envoyé : ‎30/‎04/‎2017 00:57
À : "ql-us...@q-v-d.com" 
Objet : [Ql-Users] GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 boot problem

Hi,

was someone else able to boot GoldCard SMSQ/E 3.31 on a real QL, not
Qemulator?

Tried two machines in vain. GoldCard seems to work okay without SMSQ/E.

Regards,
Peter
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