Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
It seems to work best on Chrome. They update it every couple of weeks and it is greatly improved over even a couple of months ago. Dave On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave. > > I have tried the Web based EasyEDA tool and I liked it. Unfortunately it > barfs for me, regardless of my browser, chrome, Firefox, opera, so I > haven't got anything done with it yet. I'll try again as it has been a > while. Time permitting of course. > > I will give their board manufacturing a try too. > > > Cheers, > Norm. > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Thanks Dave. I have tried the Web based EasyEDA tool and I liked it. Unfortunately it barfs for me, regardless of my browser, chrome, Firefox, opera, so I haven't got anything done with it yet. I'll try again as it has been a while. Time permitting of course. I will give their board manufacturing a try too. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
After trying a couple of different companies, I use EasyEDA. Their web-based EDA tool isn't terrible either for smaller projects. Dave On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > Interesting, indeed. My boards were fine, so far, but I'll keep an eye out > in future. If I ever get time to finish my design! (I can't do it at work > in my lunch break!) > > Who does your boards now? > > > Cheers, > Norm. > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Interesting, indeed. My boards were fine, so far, but I'll keep an eye out in future. If I ever get time to finish my design! (I can't do it at work in my lunch break!) Who does your boards now? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
I'm an Englishman married to a Korean and my name is very Korean. She's a Korean married to a Brit and her name's Atwood - whiter than Casper! I used Osh Park twice. Both times I had minor quality issues with the boards that meant every board had to be checked carefully before assembly. Both times copper debris/incomplete etch where there shouldn't be. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > I'm not an electronics expert, and I font play one on TV, but I never got > on with Eagle very well. I had the two layer limited board sized free > version. > > I use Fritzing these days and Kicad. It depends. For something quick and > dirty, I tend to drop into the former. For my ongoing attempt at a DIY > "Arduino" it's Kicad. > > Osh Park (no relation Dave?) do my boards for me. Good quality, free > postage too. > > > Cheers, > Norm. > > On 26 July 2017 21:00:41 BST, Dave Park via Ql-Users < > ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > >This amuses me as I just quit using Eagle this year because I could not > >stand it any more. > > > >And my educational license expired and they wanted HOW MUCH?!?!?! > > > >*cough* > > > >On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users < > >ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > > > >> Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: > >> > Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design > >> program. > >> > Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html > >> > >> I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design > >> nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good > >job. > >> > >> Cheers, Marcel > >> > >> ___ > >> QL-Users Mailing List > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Dave Park > >d...@sinclairql.com > >___ > >QL-Users Mailing List > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
I'm not an electronics expert, and I font play one on TV, but I never got on with Eagle very well. I had the two layer limited board sized free version. I use Fritzing these days and Kicad. It depends. For something quick and dirty, I tend to drop into the former. For my ongoing attempt at a DIY "Arduino" it's Kicad. Osh Park (no relation Dave?) do my boards for me. Good quality, free postage too. Cheers, Norm. On 26 July 2017 21:00:41 BST, Dave Park via Ql-Users wrote: >This amuses me as I just quit using Eagle this year because I could not >stand it any more. > >And my educational license expired and they wanted HOW MUCH?!?!?! > >*cough* > >On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users < >ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > >> Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: >> > Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design >> program. >> > Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html >> >> I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design >> nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good >job. >> >> Cheers, Marcel >> >> ___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> > > > >-- >Dave Park >d...@sinclairql.com >___ >QL-Users Mailing List -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
This amuses me as I just quit using Eagle this year because I could not stand it any more. And my educational license expired and they wanted HOW MUCH?!?!?! *cough* On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: > > Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design > program. > > Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html > > I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design > nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good job. > > Cheers, Marcel > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: > Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design program. > Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html I will not quit using Eagle anytime soon, but I tried PCB Design nonetheless and I must say the examples look pretty amazing. Good job. Cheers, Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
I did send a similar reply but it doesn't seem to have arrived. I copied the original query from Wolfgang to the author (Malcolm Lear) in case he doesn't read this list. Looks like yahoo mail playing up on me again, seem to get two copies of all mails to the list and some of my mails don't get through. Hmm... Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Wolf via Ql-Users Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:43 AM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52 Hi Michael, There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_" and they all come out with dots in them ! Great, thanks for pointing that out. I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended screen size. Ok, I'll have to recheck, then WOlfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Hi Michael, There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_" and they all come out with dots in them ! Great, thanks for pointing that out. I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended screen size. Ok, I'll have to recheck, then WOlfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
I'll also fix those assignments On 22 July 2017 18:34:38 BST, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users wrote: >Hi, > >Wolf wrote: >> In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when >> dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot >> can't find them. > >There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." >Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_" >and they all come out with dots in them ! > >I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended >screen size. > >As a matter of interest, I tried my new Turbo parser on the BASIC code, >and this was the result .. > > ERROR at 32210: Variable assignment expected. > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinW2 > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinH2 > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinX2 > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinY2 > Warning at 15290: Not assigned: global GScale > >TURBO: Parsing done, at 197440 statements per minute. >1 error and 5 warnings. > >The 1 ERROR refers to "CD" which presumably is CHANGE_DIR, or DATA_USE > >The 5 variables would have been initialised to zero, which may be >acceptable, >unless you are using "AH" or "JM", in which case you'll get an "error >in expression". > >Michael >___ >QL-Users Mailing List -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Sorry the 'CD' was just in there for development, delete the line and all should be fine )) On 22 July 2017 18:34:38 BST, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users wrote: >Hi, > >Wolf wrote: >> In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when >> dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot >> can't find them. > >There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." >Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_" >and they all come out with dots in them ! > >I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended >screen size. > >As a matter of interest, I tried my new Turbo parser on the BASIC code, >and this was the result .. > > ERROR at 32210: Variable assignment expected. > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinW2 > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinH2 > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinX2 > Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinY2 > Warning at 15290: Not assigned: global GScale > >TURBO: Parsing done, at 197440 statements per minute. >1 error and 5 warnings. > >The 1 ERROR refers to "CD" which presumably is CHANGE_DIR, or DATA_USE > >The 5 variables would have been initialised to zero, which may be >acceptable, >unless you are using "AH" or "JM", in which case you'll get an "error >in expression". > >Michael >___ >QL-Users Mailing List -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Hi, Wolf wrote: > In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when > dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot > can't find them. There is the -Q1 option in unzip to reverse the "_" <-> "." Eg. EX unzip,#1; "-Q1 dos7_PCBDesign752.zip -d ram6_" and they all come out with dots in them ! I have run the code and this does work well using QPC2, in extended screen size. As a matter of interest, I tried my new Turbo parser on the BASIC code, and this was the result .. ERROR at 32210: Variable assignment expected. Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinW2 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinH2 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinX2 Warning at 2570: Not assigned: global WinY2 Warning at 15290: Not assigned: global GScale TURBO: Parsing done, at 197440 statements per minute. 1 error and 5 warnings. The 1 ERROR refers to "CD" which presumably is CHANGE_DIR, or DATA_USE The 5 variables would have been initialised to zero, which may be acceptable, unless you are using "AH" or "JM", in which case you'll get an "error in expression". Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] PCB Design v7.52
Hi, Thanks for that. In the boot all file separators are "." (eg. "tk.bin"), but when dezipped, the file separators are "_" as they should be, so the boot can't find them. This also doesn"t seem to wrok with an extended screen under SMSQ/E? Wolfgang On 21/07/2017 14:31, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: Lear PCB Design 7.52 Malcolm Lear has made available an updated v7.52 of his PCB Design program. Download from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/graphics/index.html Malcolm says there are many improvements and refinements, so here's an extract from the REVISIONS.TXT file in the program listing major changes in recent versions: 7.49 08-04-17 Text element was being routed though the fingerpad detection filter in all export modes resulting in some missing text. This is now fixed. 7.50 Multipage loading screen suffered lost of first character in file names, this is now fixed. This issue only likely showed on low resolution platforms such as the QL. Function to report project file revision after loading implemented. Nasty assembler bug that performed a word write to odd boundary when requesting predefined components now fixed. This problem was overlooked for some time due to the authors 68020 based development system. Pad based bombsight marker is deprecated and now track based. Automatic bombsight conversion on load has been implemented. Flood fill clearance saved in project file (information block). Default new label positioning, layer and orientation now based on properties of existing labels. Text size on predefined fiducial corrected. Edit mode changed from bit tests and sets to absolute values in assembler code thus eliminating ambiguous values. 7.51 More assembler tidying up and minimizing. 7.52 All labels, not just the first 5 can now be switched on or 2Kb of unused dataspace (dot matrix label buffer) removed. Dilwyn. ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List