On Dec 20, 9:26am, Norman Dunbar wrote:
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Printing on QXL
Now that is a good idea !
Even better if the 'current' bug list could be presented on a web page
(automatically ?) when we access that page.
Sounds like a job for MySQL and Linux !
(Unless you know better
Sucsess is a front-end to the DBAS database system. It is PE driven and gives
a spreadsheet-like appearance to a database. I did a review of it for QL Today
some time in the last year. It's really a nice application. Using DBAS, means
that the database part was already written and it means
On Feb 1, 5:39pm, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2Q40
All this QPC v Q40 debate : isn't this rather moot?
I bought a PC before I had my Q40. There are two reasons I bought a Q40 and
not QPC:
1] I prefer pure QL platform. The Q40 gives me this. Plus buying it helps
The two web pages that I consider the best in QL land are:
Thierry Godefroy:
http://wwwusers.imaginet.fr/~godefroy/english/main.html
Has links to just about every other QL web page.
Nice DownLoad page.
Dilwyn Jones:
http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Lots of good
On Feb 21, 10:14pm, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
the software. Only that the version of Turbo has already moved on to
4.5 from 4.4, yet that can't be helped, and is all to the good.
Guess what. George Gwilt just sent me version 4.6 today. Very minor changes.
Wait for it to hit Dilwyn's site.
Since BetterBasic and CrossRef by Chas Dillon have been released into the PD,
I'm thinking about recompiling them with the new Turbo and making them
available. I've recompiled BetterBasic and it against some code and it seemed
to work fine.
The problem is that BetterBasic did not come with a
Robert,
If you could send what you have in plain ASCII that will give me a good start.
Anybody know if the manuals were part of the deal when Chas Dillon released the
source code to these programs? Or should I not worry?
Tim Swenson
On Mar 7, 9:30pm, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
Not necessarily - you can compile procedures with QLib or make a Turbo
task into a keyword if you want, for example. In addition to named
procedures in S*BASIC of course.
I know Qlib will create extensions, but I don't think TURBO will create an
I found the site to run rather slow on my SGI R5K Indy with Netscape 3.01S.
The javascript was really slow to run.
Personally I will not create a web site with either Java, Javascript, Flash, or
other fluff. I prefer plain html. Granted I won't write any e-commerce sites,
but too many regular
As to your questions about HyperBrowser:
I feel strongly about Freeware software (either with or without the source). I
like to get something for free and I make all of my QL work (programs, writing,
etc) freeware and Open Source. The decision to do this is mine and even if I
wrote a program
Can you explain a little more on what the glitch is with SMSQ/E 2.98 on the Q40
and exactly what the patch fixes?
Also, will this fix be in a future release of SMSQ/E?
Tim Swenson
I did a quick Yahoo search on Metacomco and it looks like they are no longer
in business. So, if the copyright holder is not around to enforce the
copyright, making the ROM's available for free is probably a low risk venture.
Tim Swenson
On May 8, 10:02am, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
Subject:
On May 31, 11:31am, Richard Zidlicky wrote:
Subject: Re: [ql-users] sb2htm
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:09:48PM +0100, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
I'm not an assembly writer ... although I will try Perl, some day, when
I get the time :-(
try assembler - it is easier, readable, maintainable and
Today is my last day at SGI (getting rid of a lot of contractors), so I will no
longer be getting mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know a lot of list users send me
mail there, so I'm just letting y'all know.
So, the best address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim Swenson
At 07:06 PM 6/22/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Suffice to say, that last month about 80% messages were in search of
a solution for an MS Outlook problem and now the next purely MS problem.
IMHO this can be either because MS does have only braindamaged users or
because the software is braindamaged.
I
At 11:26 PM 6/24/2001 +0100, you wrote:
I have installed a Quantum DLT 8000 at work, but that is SCSI 3 and 3500
quids in money. Since there is no SCSI interface that will work with the Q40
then it would have to be IDE.
At SGI I was the backline support expert in SCSI tape drives. SCSI is
At 12:02 AM 6/28/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Maybe Simon (N) Goodwin or Chas Dillon can shed some light into this?
They should know the status. I believe that most of the programs had a
time clause to them and are now owned by the original authors. Now the
problem might be tracking down the
At 10:13 PM 6/27/2001 -0400, Nasta wrote:
SCSI is another related example. A SCSI host adapter does nothing of
itself, but may have many different devices connected to it, that all
require treatment by essentially different drivers.
Just to expand on what Nasta said, different drivers (such as
At 08:38 AM 6/29/2001 +0100, Norman wrote:
Just to take off at a tangent, how about an open source (type) project to
build a new Operating System for ALL the QLs/compatibles/emulators out thare
to use.
An interesting idea, Norman. There are some pluses and some minuses:
+ Good way to
At 01:12 PM 6/28/2001 -0400, Nasta wrote:
Let me give you an example. Suppose someone implemented SCSI on the Q40.
Then, you could connect an IDE and a SCSI hard disc to it. Boh would use
the QWA file system, but here is the problem: each device would have it's
own copy of the QWA handling code.
At 10:23 PM 7/4/2001 +0100, you wrote:
Just think of it as nobody has any problems to raise...
(i.e. be positive)
For me it's just been too hot to play with the QL. Last few days have been
97, 100, and today it's only about 91. Of course, since it's the 4th, I
get to sweat over a Bar-B-Q.
At 09:06 PM 7/9/2001 +0200, Peter Graf wrote:
BTW I am successfully using CompactFlash as removable media for Q40/Q60.
Seems a very nice thing! Smaller than a QL microdrive cartridge, silent,
portable, and works under Q40 SMSQ/E and QDOS Classic *without* new drivers!
I use a special
Ok, before I do something stupid and accidently format my main HD, can
someone refresh me on getting a second HD going on the Q40. I know to use
MKPART_EXE, but I'm worried that it will default to the main drive and not
the secondary drive and then there goes my data.
I also remember that
Richard Z. suggesting using atari-fdisk and qxltool to get the Syquest up
and running.
I used atari-fdisk to partition the drive (1 partition). I used qxltool to
format the disk. I first tried something like this:
qxltool -W /dev/hdb1 0 label
This got an error during format (unknown
At 12:10 AM 7/11/2001 +0200, Richard Z. wrote:
I have reformated my /dev/hda2 today with
qxltool -W /dev/hda2 0 xx xx xx
and it worked perfectly.
I tried it using 256 instead of the 0 (since it's 256 MB partition). That
should still work though, right?
Tim
Well, this is interesting.
With SMSQ/E 2.91 running (from ROM), I decided to try and format the
Syquest again (just for SG's). I did the following (as per the manual):
win_format 1
win_drive 3,1
format win3_
instead of getting the access denied error, it asked for two letters and
Ok, I am now able to read the Syquest as win3_. I dumped some files there
and I am able to boot into Linux. From there I put partitions on a number
of Syquest carts. I also formatted my first and second QDOS partitions
qxltool /dev/hda1 0 QDOS1 and qxltool /dev/hda2 0 QDOS2. I did get
At 12:07 AM 7/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
You are missing a bit.
after the
WIN_FORMAT 3
you should then type
Format win3_
the first command allows the drive to be formatted but does nothing else.
This is a protection against accidental formatting. Long winded but worthwhile.
I think I get it.
I booted Linux from floppy and it looks like /dev/hda4 is still there
(mounted it as /newroot). So I booted again from floppy and used /dev/hda4
as the root device and all seems well.
Another thing is that the Syquest drive not makes a funny noise after I put
a disk in, then it spits the
I'm still having problems with the Syquest and it keeping a partition. I
also found that copying from the Syquest to win1_ caused win1_ to be corrupted.
I'm also starting to wonder about the Q40 manual. I formatted HD like this
Partition 1 (/dev/hda1) QWA QDOS1
Partition 2
Now, after I formatted parition 1 I was able to reboot from linux to SMSQ/E
and copy some files from flp1_ to win1_. Now I did a reboot to verify that
the boot file will run and suddenly I can't see win1_. I set win_drive
1,0,0 and nothing. I set win_drive to 2,0,1 and I see the second
At 08:25 PM 8/5/2001 +0100, you wrote:
The best solution I reckon is for originating ISPs to filter emails
with
attachments for virii.
Mind you we are then getting into privacy issues.
Since virus scanners only look at files at the binary level (comparing
binary sequences to known virii),
By German is rusty, but I think nur fur benzine means not for
benzine. I'm guessing that benzine in German is the same as benzine in
english. Hope this helps.
Tim
Whoops, I think nur does mean only and not not.
Tim
After letting my Q40 sit for a while (since I am still having the partition
problem), I decided to hook up a 400 Meg drive as master (leaving the
current master idle) and give that a shot. So, I unplugged the old drive
(IDE cable and power), hooked up the spare drive, and turn it on. Have
It's been a while since I cranked up the QL, but I'll give the new binary a
try. My Q40 is currently down (blown power supply and HD
problems). Luckily my Gold Card QL is still set up and working.
Tim Swenson
I've got a problem using TTK 3.31 and I wanted to see if anyone else is
seeing the problem.
First, setup: JSU QL with Gold Card and two ED drives.
I've got TURBO on a disk in FLP1_. I type in a program in SuperBasic, then
enter the TTK keyword CHARGE. This is supposed to fire up TURBO and
I just downgraded from TTK 3.31 to TTK 3f27 and CHARGE is working
again. So, it looks to be an issue with 3.31.
Tim Swenson
Mug shot is right. I actually pictured you to be a little bit younger
(well, OK, a lot younger :-) ).
Tim Swenson
For those that have been waiting, finally, I have finished QHJ #34 have
made it available on my web page (www.geocities.com/svenqhj/).
This issue focuses primarily on TURBO and all of the tools that come with it.
Boy, have there been a number of distractions this year.
Tim Swenson
To help in tracking current bugs in TURBO and the TURBO Toolkit, I've
created a TURBO Support Page on my web page
(www.geocities.com/svenqhj/). I only have one bug listed, but I'm ready to
list more. This page can be used by TURBO users to see if any bug they
encounter has been seen or not
At 09:00 PM 1/3/2002 +, you wrote:
Hi all,
I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.
I recall the US QLs had a different ROM version and PSU, but are their any
other differences?
There should be some US QL's running around from US sources. Jack
Boatwright
First, let me say that I'll be briefer than Nasta in my comments.
I see the whole QL/QDOS/SMSQ/E really comes down to hardware. Software
really does not break, but eventually, hardware will. Granted my original
QL (bought in 1986) is still working, eventually it will have some sort of
At 02:32 PM 1/6/2002 -0200, you wrote:
4) What shall I use to:
A) wordprocessor
B) spreadsheet (w/ .xls translation or something similar)
C) database (not complex, just for a collection control)
Xchange is probably the best program to
At 12:24 AM 1/7/2002 +0100, you wrote:
So, expected QDOS behavior is not there.
you have missed the 'qdos-like' flag, it does exactly that and a bit more.
Use it for filesystems that are intended for QL/UQLX use only, otherwise
you might get some confusion.
Indeed I must have. Next time I
At 07:58 PM 1/7/2002 +, you wrote:
In light of the above, there's a couple of practical things I can do to
help the situation. I would like to start a QDOS/SMSQ documentation
project.
Dilwyn Jones has a whole bunch of documentation on his web site. Plus, a
while back I started the QL PD
Some of you might remember, some years back, when one QLer was able to port
Minix to the standard QL, but could not distribute the diffs due to
Prentice-Hall saying No. Andrew Tannenbaum saw no problem with it, but
PH did. Now Minix is pretty much forgotten.
Tim Swenson
At 12:09 AM 1/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
At 07:58 ìì 25/1/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Yep but still very relevant...
I wonder who did that and if it's available from its author (well I want
tell PH if you don't ;-)
Phoebus
Oh and Tim, sorry for the delay on sending you the file I promised... but
At 11:48 PM 1/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I was wondering if there was a way to change or enhance standard S*Basic
commands.
I'm pretty sure that this is impossible from Basic but what about machine
code... for example instead of writing an x_Print x,w,z,d,s command,
redefine the standard Print
I thought I would chime in here on the current topic of the mailing
list. In keeping with the style
RANT ON
I find a lot of the traffic on this group to be not really worth my time to
read. The delete key is my handy little friend and I use it often after
skimming the subject line.
At 07:51 PM 2/7/2002 +, you wrote:
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim Swenson suggested, inter alia, the following book when I
originally asked about books on computing:
The Elements of Programming Style Kernighan and Plaugher
Here's a link that has a summary of the lessons in the book.
I've finally decided to sit down and figure out how to write programs in the
PE. The first step I'm taking is to understand the different PE structures
(Windows, Sub-Window, Items, Objects) and what the attributes are of each one.
I'm reading the QPTR docs and looking over some C68 examples
Sorry to hear about Frank and Carol. While living in Ohio I got a chance
to drop by and visit them in Peru, Indiana. I'm guessing that you got the
news from Paul Holmgren, since I think he still keeps in touch with Frank
and Carol. They don't live all that far apart.
Tim Swenson
As an on-topic note, I used my QL at Uni. I wrote several BASIC programs
for subjects like energy distribution, acceleration vectors, suspension
behaviour etc.
I had an Independent Studies course in College to get me just over the
number of credits to graduate. I was studying Cellular
At 02:34 AM 2/25/2002 +, you wrote:
Although my studies were more aimed at air accident investigation,
Interesting that you studied Aircraft accident investigation. My Air Force
instructor pilots were worried about me causing such accidents, so I washed
out of Pilot Training. My landings
At 10:37 PM 2/24/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I still have a few boxes of stuff put away.
Paul Holmgren
Luckily that stuff was not in your house when the exploding furnace
happened. Are you waiting for the stuff to become collector's items?
Tim Swenson
Here is a web page for Jack Boatwright.
http://www1.outlawnet.com/~jboatno4/
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At 11:00 PM 3/5/2002 +, you wrote:
Does anyone know where I can download a listing of PCL3 or 5 commands
for programming purposes?
Dilwyn,
I have a copy of the HP PCL 5 Printer Language Technical Reference
Manual If you can't find what you need, I can scan in parts of the book
and send
After 12 years of using my QL with a keyboard interface, there is no way
that I am going back.
I think the true solution to the membrane issue is to get a keyboard
interface. Then, if the keyboard dies, there are tons more
available. Plus, you can get one to the layout and color that you
At 10:19 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
IMHO what should be done is to leave WMAN alone and work on an entire new
PE that could give the QL a whole new GUI,
there all new developments and features could be implemented without
sacrificing compatibility with older apps (since the original
PE
At 04:36 AM 3/12/2002 +0100, you wrote:
You're satisfied with 512x256 as resolution? Wow, that's about the
size of a bunch of icons on my screen ;-)
I don't use a desktop on the QL and really don't see a major need for a
desktop. I use them at work (IRIX, Linux, Windows) and find them
Windows was successful not because of the desktop, but because it was based
on MS-DOS, the winner of the desktop OS wars. Back when the PC first came
out there where three reasons to by the IBM PC; I, B, and M. IBM validated
the PC for business use. By the time Windows came out, the only
Hmm, I think you misunderstood what I was getting at.
1. I see very few chances of getting new folks to the QL. This is not a
bad thing, just reality.
2. I would like to see further development for the QL world. The recent
developments for TCP/IP and CD access are prime examples of what
I think your message may have been aimed at the postings I made. So I'll take
a moment to defend myself.
DON'T extend, update or uograde SMSQ/E
I actually encouraged further development.
DON'T make the system more appealing by dding new feature
I actually encouraged new features.
DON'T
At 07:48 AM 3/15/2002 +0100, you wrote:
On 14 Mar 2002, at 20:22, Timothy Swenson wrote:
The person who I think has the best qualifications to lead the group, due
to his in depth knowledge of QDOS, SMSQ/E and 68000 assembly code,
would be
Simon Goodwin.
I'm not so sure about that, due
At 02:20 PM 3/15/2002 +, you wrote:
Ok, now I am totally confused. Open source has a very specific meaning.
And this isn't it. If the source isn't going to be generally available, it
isn't open source, and you shouldn't call it that.
I think we can expect the source code to be available,
From what Marcel is saying about his continuing to focus on QPC code
changes, and debate if he should port the changes to the Q40 (I hope that I
summarized that correctly), we may need to tailor our approach to how we do
this.
I would really, really, really, like to see SMSQ/E behave
At 08:15 AM 3/22/2002 +, you wrote:
When I was using my Z88 and the QL, to copy data from the Z88 to the QL
all I did on the QL was:
copy ser1_ to ram1_file_txt
and then have the Z88 send the file. When the Z88 was done, I hit
CTRL-C on the QL to break out of the copy. Worked like
As one of the Pacific Time Zone QLer's, I get to be late to the
conversations, but at least I can have a try at the final word.
3/ No distribution of SMSQ/E may be SOLD, except for for the official
distribution.
This interdiction includes that of including and distibuting SMSQ/E in Public
I don't know if everyone is ignoring me, but I made a few points about the SMSQ/E
statement that can make all of the discussions going on a mute point.
The statement says that no one can SELL SMSQ/E except for the distributers.
It made no mention of any person giving a SMSQ/E binary to any
So, it looks like I have a spare PSU and Francios has one also. Dave
Phoebus, why don't you decide if you both need one. Since I am sending a
package to both of you, you two can decide who gets the PSU. And then
decide to whom Francios can send one to (if he still feels so generous).
Tim
I am currently using Turbo Toolkit v3.32 and have noticed that some of my old
software compiled with an earlier version of Turbo just hangs under SMSQ/E...
Does anyone know why??
Rich,
Can you give some code examples and the failures you're seeing. To help GW,
I've volunteered to do some
Tony,
I got some hard copy with the one that Ruth sent me. I can either photocopy
and send via snail mail, or I can scan it in and send to you.
Tim Swenson
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At 01:11 AM 4/11/2002 +0100, you wrote:
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
I suggested to Dave to start off with MicroEmacs as since he's been using
Linux he would be a known environment (QD is FAR EASIER TO WORK WITH
than MicroEmacs :-)
If it's anything like emacs, I'll
At 02:18 AM 4/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Definitely a must-read :-) Tim is extremely talented in making even the
most complex subjects easy to understand...
Ok, was that $5 or $10 for the glowing remarks. :-)
Tim
At 12:48 AM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Seriously though, you are REALLY good at it :-) So was the Army (Air
Force) to blame for that?
Phoebus
Well, I did spend 8.5 years as an Air Force Officer, but I don't know if my
writing style was affected by my service time. AF writing is more
I find that documenting a new subject helps me learn that subject. So, to better
understand THINGs, I'm working on some THING documentation aimed at the general
user.
I'm reading the THING documentation from TT and the THING articles by Jochen.
I've run into a number of terms and issues that I
IIRC all these are explained in the QDOS/SMS Reference Manual
I have not looked there, so I'll have to check my copy. Now as for the explanation
being clear, I'll have to see. The QDOS/SMS Reference Manual was aimed clearly
at the Assembly programmer and seems to make some assumptions about
The CD rom extension is a THING. If you have the PE installed, then you should
have the THING system loaded. The PE contains the Window Manager, Pointer Interface,
HotKey System II and the THING System (anyone should feel free to jump in with
both feet if I'm wrong about this :-) ).
If you
Thanks Wolgang and Per. The pieces of the puzzle are coming together. I'll
document what I sort of understand and then make it available for others to
tell me how wrong I was (and give me the right answer).
Tim Swenson
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On 16 Apr 2002, at 11:15, Timothy Swenson wrote:
1 - What is a Forced Free?
I know that you FREE a THING when an application stops using it, but I can't
find an explanation for FORCED FREE.
Forced free is when the job owning the thing is removed. A thing
could be set up in such a way
For SBASIC programming, best start is TURBO, which is now freeware. It's not
quite as powerfull as Qliberator, but you can get it online (check Dilwyn's
web site) with manuals and a number of extra tools including TurboPTR, a tool
for creating Pointer Environment programs with TURBO.
As for
At 06:53 PM 4/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
At 06:44 ìì 19/4/2002, you wrote:
For SBASIC programming, best start is TURBO, which is now freeware. It's not
quite as powerfull as Qliberator, but you can get it online (check Dilwyn's
web site) with manuals and a number of extra tools including
At 12:20 AM 4/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
I don't see that really to be a problem. However I remember reading
somewhere about George wanting to solve this. It's like not loading
QLib_run! The thing is that Turbo being around for so long (from the time
of Supercharge) it has an impressive amount
At 04:28 PM 4/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Is your FileCOnfig able to create level 2 config blocks now, Tim?
I have not touched FileConfig in a while, and since it's based 100% off of
BasConfig, it still only does Level 2 config blocks. If BasConfig is
updated, then I can update FileConfig.
At 09:00 AM 4/20/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if any one has The Shell's accompanying utilities
available. The zip file i had them in is (once more) corrupt and i would
appreciate it if someone mailed them to me :-)
If you don't get all that you need from Dilwyn, I had a
At 10:28 PM 4/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Is there a way to get a c68 program to accept a commandline
(or part of a command line) from a file/pipe.
I want to achieve something like:
EX cprog ; -options parameters filelist_file
rather than
EX cprog ; -options parameters file1 file2 ..
At 11:26 PM 4/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Unfortunately neither Turbo itself not its output is very clean: It is
neither ROMable not Thingable ;(
Per
Given Simon's Assembly background I would think that the output from TURBO
would be fairly clean (but I've never looked at it and I really don't
I've glanced over the comments made by others on the SMSQ/E official
statement and have decided to take a nice long look at the statement
myself. The comments below are strictly my opinion, not based on any input
from the other commentors.
At 02:50 PM 5/13/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Official
At 07:18 AM 5/19/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Timothy,
When I got SMSQ/E from Jochen, I got:
a) A generic SMSQ/E User Guide (38 pages) that was not machine specific
b) Custom supplement pages for each hardware environment I bought
(typically 6-10 pages)
I agree that the SMSQ/E Reference
I guess you have to be European to become flame bait on this mailing
list. Here I thought my last message about support and SMSQ/E would send
electronic fire and brimstone heading my way. Instead, It seemed like it
made not a single blip on the radar.
So, I'll ask again, when we talk about
At 10:40 AM 5/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hi James.
There was an HTML browser for the QL going around some time back, written in
SuperBasic. The last I heard was that there were a couple of problems with
it, and I haven't heard much since then. (Was it Tarquin ?)
I believe you are talking
At 09:18 AM 5/21/2002 +0100, Norman wrote:
So, what do you want to do with the source code when it gets released ?
I think I would find it useful to see the comments and hopefully they will
document parts of SMSQ/E that is not fully documented. The code might shed
some light on particular
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