Re: [R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits

2011-11-14 Thread Theodore Garland Jr
14, 2011 12:54 PM To: Liam J. Revell; Joe Felsenstein; pasquale.r...@libero.it Cc: R Sig Phylo Listserv Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits Liam, Joe, Pasquale, all- Thank you for your kind input.It seems that I am not the only one who considers this issue at length

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits

2011-11-14 Thread Liam J. Revell
Hi David. Poaching Intensity = beta0 + beta1*Body Size + e I think it depends on how the residual error in the model is distributed (esp. correlated) among species. It seems possible to invent hypothetical scenarios (as I did in my previous email) about how the residual error in poaching

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits

2011-11-14 Thread Joe Felsenstein
Liam Revell wrote: Poaching Intensity = beta0 + beta1*Body Size + e I think it depends on how the residual error in the model is distributed (esp. correlated) among species. It seems possible to invent hypothetical scenarios (as I did in my previous email) about how the residual

[R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits

2011-11-10 Thread David Bapst
Hello all, A recent discussion set my mind thinking on a particular issue and, once again, I decided to ask for the general opinion of R-Sig-Phylo denizens. It may be easier to start with an example. Let's say that there exists a worker who is measuring several different traits across a number of

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits

2011-11-10 Thread Liam J. Revell
Hi David. In general it is inconsequential whether X or Y are biologically inherited traits; but whether the residual error in Y given X is correlated or independent among species. In the case of growth rate as a function of habitat degradation this corresponds to: Growth Rate = beta0 +

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Comparative Methods and Pseudo-Traits

2011-11-10 Thread Joe Felsenstein
Liam wrote: I'm not sure I entirely agree that we need to assume that the environmental trait is evolving on the tree by Brownian motion. I believe that so long as Y|X (in David's example, growth rate given habitat degradation) is evolving by Brownian motion, we should be OK to use PIC