Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-27 Thread Johnny Alien
The Dream bar was the classic standard drop bar made for Rivendell by Nitto. If I remember correctly its what they offered prior to the Noodle. It was sold along with the Noodle bar for a bit before they just dropped it because the Noodle was the drop they would suggest over all others. On

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-27 Thread Conway Bennett
Bill, Thanks for the clarification. My posts weren't meant to be adversarial, just pedantic. I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-27 Thread Igor
Retro-Gression sells both the Noodle (Which is the M177) and the Dream (M176). Both, per the description, are designed by Rivendell, and I notice that the M176 is 26mm clamp, has a 140mm drop/90mm reach - is this the Soba or something else?

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s Do not conflate the two.

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Conway Bennett
I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018. Here's the intro from Sim Works: https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar They also appear to have a sleeve. But I've never owned the So Bar, so I don't know what the production model was like in practice. I had a 50 cm Rando Bar

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Johnny Alien
When RIvendell sold them back in the day I think Grant said they were about 60g lighter than a standard noodle bar. That is right in line with what you found, Bill. On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 7:26:39 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > "Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
"Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?" They were already out of production when I came in 2009. If I type "Nitto Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing them. At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 is

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Conway Bennett
Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle? They are listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles. My understanding was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm offering. Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 centimeter

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it. That's my advice. ;) BL in EC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Johnny Alien
Look at Bill just strolling in and flexing about his super stash of these bars. :) It looks like I might have a line on one but I agree that they would knock these out quick if they did a small release of them. On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:16:45 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > I've got

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more. I've told Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he did a presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them actually get made. That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise. I'm

[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-26 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Another vote for product re-introduction, re-release. -Ken who is not as concerned about the weight as much as has a preference for their simpler aesthetics. On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 12:00:31 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba