Karen Coyle said:
As long as the data elements are understood, it seems to me that workness
is something that can be defined differently by different systems for
the very same set of data.
Yes, as soon as the physical, bound volume is no longer the unit
and the indivisible object of the
Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Well, how do you even know if something is based on (or,
alternately, is actually an edition of) Hamlet, without _something_
embedded in the record? Generally, the embedding of the information
is an edition of (the work) Hamlet is in fact embedding workness
according
On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
Well, I disagree with your basic assumption that edition of Hamlet =
work.
I don't think it's any easier to decide whether a particular
manifestation is or isn't an edition of Hamlet than it is to decide
whether a particular manifestation is a
Jonathan:
So the question is not how can we exclude contextual decisions from
our records in favor of objetive simple easy decisions---but instead
How can we operate in an environment where different communities may
make different decisions, which need to be recorded? To what extent
_can_ we
At 11:00 AM 12/5/2007, D. Brooking wrote:
This reminds of how author-title references worked so well with cards. We
depended on humans to make the inferences necessary to go to the right
place in the drawers.
Exactly. Sad to say, I believe that (in general) the card catalog was much
better
By way of analogy then--Karen's approach to works would be similar to
the U.S. application profile for dealing with format and material
type in Z39.50. There, a complex interdependency of multiple fixed
field values is used to determine that item X is AV material, or is a
DVD, or whatever. But
1.3.2.1 Convergence of identity management in various contexts would be
considerably easier if we would re-examine our commitment to the steadily
expanding principle that change of name equals change in identity. I call
this the googlization of cataloging. We need to differentiate ourselves
Martha Yee wrote:
4.3.2.1 FAST is an example of a project that breaks up LCSH strings into
individual facets, thereby losing the information about the relationship
among various subject facets that is implicit in the LCSH precoordinated
string of facets. Admittedly, the information about
Looks like a PRECIS string to me. Derek Austin would be pleased.
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On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
Jonathan, you are leaping to the is an edition decision, which I
never
mentioned. I say that you record the title, the edition statement from
the piece, the number of pages, illustrations, size, the date of
publication, the publisher. Whether or
Yes, this one really bothers me. A resource about physicians from
China
and also about veterinarians from Vietnam would get these LCSH
headings:
How likely is such a book to exist? It seems an unlikely combination
of topics to me, but I guess all things possible will exist
eventually. It
ACtually, we tried to use the UTs in records when I was doing OPAC
development, but they were used so inconsistently in the data that the
end result was more confusing than helpful. I remember checking and few
libraries were using uniform titles for translated works, so while a
handful of
On Dec 5, 2007, at 6:33 PM, A. Ralph Papakhian wrote:
hi,
agreed. OPAC developers (except maybe the harvard implementation of
exlibris and NOTIS) failed to account for the provisions of AACR2 rule
25.1 (especially the purpose for organizing the file):
Chapter 25. Uniform Titles
25.1. Use of
At 05:50 PM 12/5/2007, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007, at 6:33 PM, A. Ralph Papakhian wrote:
hi,
agreed. OPAC developers (except maybe the harvard implementation of
exlibris and NOTIS) failed to account for the provisions of AACR2 rule
25.1 (especially the purpose for organizing the
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Yes, this one really bothers me. A resource about physicians from
China and also about veterinarians from Vietnam would get these LCSH
headings:
How likely is such a book to exist? It seems an unlikely combination
of topics to me, but I guess
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